The Walking Dead Films - Clementine could appear?
As we all know, one of the main investors that left Telltale suddenly, causing the closing of this one, was AMC. And apparently, they confirmed that they would make 3 TWD movies, like Rick's Spin Off, and they would expand into The Walking Dead universe like never before.
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/11/04/entertainment/rick-grimes-the-walking-dead-movies/index.html
And there comes the question we all ask ourselves:
Knowing that Clem's story would end in the next few months, would it be possible to see her in those movies and bring together 2 of the most iconic characters in the TWD universe?
I'm watching the series from the beginning again because I left it in the 2nd season when it was just released, so I decided to see it all again, I'm going through chapter 6 of season 4, and I'm not very aware of the timeline of the TV series. I know that Clem's is 7 and a half years after the outbreak.
So that would be the topic to discuss, if Clem could appear in one of those 3 movies that AMC has in mind. Regards!
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They still plan on making Walking Dead shit?!
Apparently xD
You need to remember that, to our knowledge, Clementine doesn't exist in the TV universe. The games are set in the comic's continuity, not the show's, so any Clementine that might appear would be entirely separate from the Clem in the games.
With that being said, despite how much I love Clem and enjoy the show, I do not ever want to see her in anything related to the TV show out of fear of what they'd do to her.
I’m sure the TV show writers won’t be as involved in the movies as the show. If they do get new writers, it depends on how good they are at their job. I’m sure there’s a handful of writers who can nail Clem’s character.
Also, AMC-verse Clem doesn’t have to be exactly like her Video Game counterpart. They can give a few twists to her character, if done right.
Like being more cohesive?
No.
Didn't Gimple say he was writing the first movie?
Can't Judith Grimes become the Clementine of the show? I've seen some clips and she looks badass.
Did he? I’m not sure...
I think that’s what they’re aiming for. She’ll be a mix between current comic Carl and Clementine.
Judith Grimes will become Judith Grimes. The legacy of his badassery Rick Grimes. That kid is the future leader of Alexandria.
Yes he did. This is from the Hollywood Reporter:
Weird. In this thread, whenever I told you that Carl will be the future leader after Rick dies (in the comics), you kept telling me "he's too young" or "he's too immature" to lead in the future, but Judith is somehow going to lead, even though she's even younger than Carl and, to be quite honest, has lived a sheltered life in her maturing years. Do you get off on being a complete fucking hypocrite? Why are you trying to start a flame war? The only thing I see coming out of your mouth is pure toxicity.
Judith has had hundreds of adults, walls, running water and electricity to keep her safe--what has Clem had? Let's see, over the years she's had Lee, Kenny, Christa and Omid, and a few others (whom I can count on one hand) to protect her, and all of whom have slowly been killed or gone missing. That's not to mention that every last one of the places she's stayed at for safety over the years have been destroyed. Judith has only lived at the Prison (destroyed), and Alexandria; Alexandria has stayed standing for the entirety of the apocalypse, and she's lived at it for 6.5 years or so.
"JuDitH Is a BaDasS" because she killed one fucking walker with a gun -- Clem did the exact same thing in S1 at Crawford, has lived on the road, as a kid/teenager for 8 years (6 of those essentially alone), yet "Clem isn't badass, but Judith is". How is killing a walker or two badass, yet Clem fending for herself as a pre-pubescent teen isn't badass? If you think Judith is a badass, YOU need to watch the show, read the comics, or play the game to see what a badass really is.
What the hell are you on about that Clem isn't a leader (Judith most certainly isn't)? In S2 the Cabin Group all literally relied on Clem (God knows why), essentially making her the defacto-leader. In S4, though she doesn't have the title of "leader", she's the one who came up with the plan to hold-off Lilly's group and fight back. She's been the one calling the shots. That isn't leadership? Color me surprised.
I've come to a few conclusions: you're either a troll, hypocrite, or you have an irrational hatred towards Clem and can't see past that. I can't quite put my finger on which of those 3 you are, but if you're not a troll, then good job! Your statements are irrelevant for the constant contradictions you make.
Sorry for the long reply, I just hate trolls and hypocrites.
Because Judith considering that short EP5 clip and EP6 promo looks a lot more mature while being a 9 years old girl than Carl looked while he was older. The fact that she is being raised by so many badasses and so many strong people makes me sure that she will one day be a great leader as her father was.
Why can't it be all 3?
she's too diverse, imagine the outrage if they made the clem in the film have the AJ "jane ending" tattoo, imagine the outrage if they made clem in the film have the "kenny ending" scar, I hope she dies in the final season so her story ends
You would actually trust Scott Gimple with Clementine?? Gtfo with these awful ideas and let the original Telltale writers finish her story once and for all.
You missed my entire point. You are clearly not to be taken seriously at this point.
Very good point. You're definitely right.
Why can't kids just be harsh, like Clem? Like Carl was in season 3? I think they really messed him up when they made him softer. That's when he became boring. I hope Judith doesn't become like that.
Regarding your first para you called me an hypocrite because I didn't think that Carl was a good enough leader material and I thought that Judith is a good leader material. You can easily see the difference between Carl and Judith if you consider Carl's early ages. And I'm pretty sure that next episodes will only make my point more valid.
In second para you just started excusing Clementine 24/7 and I wasn't even gonna bother commenting this shit to be honest.
Judith is a badass material. Clementine? If you played the game then sure, she might be a badass to you. From a overall point of view, I don't really see anything special in Clem expect known case "I lost my parents, I'm gonna be tough".
In Season 1 Clem was just a kid that barely have done anything. In Season 2 she killed few walkers and was constantly just normal person of the group. The only thing really worthy pointing out is the first episode in which she indeed was a badass with that patching her arm up. In Season 3 they made her look like Carl from Season 3/4. In Season 4 she looks better although I wouldn't still say that she has done anything outstanding, something worth remembering.
I do really know how a TWD badass looks like and Clem doesn't even get close to badasses from TV Series or Comic Series. You don't agree, fine. You don't have to jump at me like a monkey because I simply think otherwise.
Besides I don't think that Clementine has anything to do with that mysterious helicopter community so her being in one of three Rick Grimes' movies would really be pointless. And I don't really think that you would like to have AMC do anything with her. I do have a strong feeling that they will destroy Rick's character in those three movies. Same thing would happen to Clem probably.
We aren't saying that Clem might possibly be in one of the three Rick Grimes movies, just the possibility of AMC making a Clem movie, in the TV universe, but standalone from the 3 confirmed movies so far.
Ok, fine, I'll bight. So what has Judith done that's memorable other than simply being the daughter of Rick Grimes? I can see the difference between Carl and Judith, that being that Carl is actually shaping up and clearly evolving into the leader he was always meant to be. They are literally adapting Carl's story into Judith, specifically when it comes to the Negan/Carl dynamic in the comics and being a young child growing up in the apocalypse.
The only difference is, Carl lived on the road, he knows what it's like out there. Judith, on the other hand, has lived behind walls her entire life. Yes, she's obviously going to be the leader in the future, but that's because her storyline will take inspiration from Carl's (minus Lydia). They are essentially the same character, which is why I called you out on the "Carl won't be the leader but Judith will" lines you gave me.
Her first impression already looks golden and she has so fucking huge potential. Carl was poorly written in the TV Show. That's the truth unfortunatelly, he was nowhere close to become a leader. They made him look like he is ready in Season 8, but he still had a huge road to it.
I'm talking about their personalities and not if they lived on the road. Carl was immature for most of the time.
Okay, I'll nibble: Who the heck is Judith and where did she come from?
Shane's daughter.
Yeah..it's uh..complicated.
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To be honest it was never confirmed if she was Rick's or Shane's daugther.
Rick talk to michonne in season 7 saying something like "i know Judith isn't mine" and then you get Shane telling Rick that he's looking for his family,and shit,so i'm pretty sure she's Shane daughter.
Doesn't matter anyway,Rick and Michonne raised her that's what matters.
It would appear up to this point she could not exist but odds are equivalent that she could also exist. I believe it would make little to no sense that.. if you have a TV Michonne, Andrea, Rick, Glenn, Governor and Negan then how come you couldn't have a TV Clementine that is remixed into her own unique TV entity? Maybe TV Clem has a brother like the games originally intended and could be much older than the games version. I'm not sure why a TV verse Clem could not exist and they just haven't had the time and resources to tell her TV verse story.
There are also comic characters that have either not been included in the show, or have been changed in some manner from their comic counterpart. So yes, while a TV version of Clem may exist somewhere in their world, there's still a chance that she doesn't.
He still wasn't sure. He couldn't have known. Man, he was depressed as shit in that time. Like the most depressed since he lost Lori. He just looked at everything from negative point of view. We will never know who is her biological father. But as you stated - it isn't important.
Robert Kirkman confirmed Judith is Shane's daughter. Multiple times. Plus, Rick admitted it and in his hallucination of Shane, it was confirmed who's daughter she is. Now, this doesn't change who raised her, that being Rick and Michonne.
I know Carl was poorly written in the show -- plus Chandler Riggs' acting didn't help much -- but that doesn't mean anything compared to comic Carl and his inevitable future.
Carl was immature at first, but that's because of he was like 8 years old (and wasn't raised to be a survival expert unlike Judith). He has grown-up and really matured in the comics at this point (I'm not saying he's ready to be the leader just yet) but like Judith in the TV show, when Carl is an adult, he will lead once Rick is killed/dies.
Mind giving the source about Kirkman confirming that it is Shane's dauther indeed?
Man please. Carl in comics freed an unknown girl that could harm them. Then he was blinded by his little dick and he went after The Whisperers. They would most likely kill him if not Lydia. Before it he generally almost killed two kids (they were assholes, but still) with a fucking shovel. And also then, he was banging Lydia without any any contraception.
He isn't mature enough to lead them. His emotions are controlling him when it comes to intense situation and he is too stubborn to see that he is wrong.
All Kirkman ever said is that she is more than likely is Shane's...but he prefers to keep it mysterious because you never know when a plot point needs used.
Dare I ask why there's ambiguity in the first place?
Well to screw with people mostly.