I am certain this will end up on the official did you try list.
And I don't think it will work since he stops counting them after the first. But I would really like to test if it would work out.
I've done the calculations. Assuming that it takes about 30 seconds per grub, and you don't sleep, eat, or do any other work, it will take a little over one month to do the task.
I've done the calculations. Assuming that it takes about 30 seconds per grub, and you don't sleep, eat, or do any other work, it will take a little over one month to do the task.
Have fun with that...
We can use a bot that repeatedly moves the mouse :-P
I did it! That was the most annoying puzzle ever, took forever... I can't believe they make you do that. You'd think there'd be an easier way through the game.
Anyways, what happens is:
DeCava says 'Excellent! That's all the grubs we need! We'll be out of here faster than you can say dusky leaf monkey!' Guybrush says 'Dusky leaf monkey', and sure enough the game skips forward to the point where the ship surface. The brotherhood is still tied to the mast, and the game continues on from there as per normal; you inventory is updated to what it should be at that point in the game. I haven't *finished* after doing this, so I can't tell whether there are any further differences.
I did it! That was the most annoying puzzle ever, took forever... I can't believe they make you do that. You'd think there'd be an easier way through the game.
Anyways, what happens is:
DeCava says 'Excellent! That's all the grubs we need! We'll be out of here faster than you can say dusky leaf monkey!' Guybrush says 'Dusky leaf monkey', and sure enough the game skips forward to the point where the ship surface. The brotherhood is still tied to the mast, and the game continues on from there as per normal; you inventory is updated to what it should be at that point in the game. I haven't *finished* after doing this, so I can't tell whether there are any further differences.
I've done the calculations. Assuming that it takes about 30 seconds per grub, and you don't sleep, eat, or do any other work, it will take a little over one month to do the task.
I did it! That was the most annoying puzzle ever, took forever... I can't believe they make you do that. You'd think there'd be an easier way through the game.
Anyways, what happens is:
DeCava says 'Excellent! That's all the grubs we need! We'll be out of here faster than you can say dusky leaf monkey!' Guybrush says 'Dusky leaf monkey', and sure enough the game skips forward to the point where the ship surface. The brotherhood is still tied to the mast, and the game continues on from there as per normal; you inventory is updated to what it should be at that point in the game. I haven't *finished* after doing this, so I can't tell whether there are any further differences.
You should do a video clip and put it on YouTube in that case
It kind of reminded me of one of the puzzles in Monkey Island 2, where you could polish the guys pegleg for 1 piece of eight. And one of the map pieces (or something) was for sale in a shop for a rediculous price.
My brother and I got half way there before we figured out the real way to get through it. I'm tempted to go back and script it now to see if it would work.
Now was this on the easy mode or the hard mode. On the easy mode, the map piece was only, what, 5 or 6 thousand pieces of eight, but on the hard mode the map piece was several million. If the numbers of eight was stored as an 'int', then the several million would be unobtainable even with my 'methods'.
PS. I've made a video, and am trying to get it uploaded. My first attempt (recorded it with fraps, failed on upload to youtube, so I'm trying again.)
It kind of reminded me of one of the puzzles in Monkey Island 2, where you could polish the guys pegleg for 1 piece of eight. And one of the map pieces (or something) was for sale in a shop for a rediculous price.
My brother and I got half way there before we figured out the real way to get through it. I'm tempted to go back and script it now to see if it would work.
It kind of reminded me of one of the puzzles in Monkey Island 2, where you could polish the guys pegleg for 1 piece of eight. And one of the map pieces (or something) was for sale in a shop for a rediculous price.
My brother and I got half way there before we figured out the real way to get through it. I'm tempted to go back and script it now to see if it would work.
Has anyone else tried it?
I believe he runs out of money one coin short of item you are trying to buy.
I believe he runs out of money one coin short of item you are trying to buy.
It did when I tried to do it to get 20 peices to charter the ship, I've just scripted it up in Autoit. The goal is 6 million peices of eight, and it takes about 9 seconds per peice of eight.
I'll let you know when it's done what happened. By my math, that's 625 days non-stop. I'll have to pause a few times and save and come back. If I remember when it's done in a few years, I'll let you know.
Acutally.....I can probably speed this up if I script in hitting ESC to skip the dialogue.
We'll see if i can speed this up a little and get back to you.
Probably just changed the value in memory directly. Kinda like what a game genie used to do for nintendo games.
Indeed. This is the gist. For people who don't want to know I will put spoiler tabs around the full explanation.
There is an old program called CheatOMatic which allows one to do this very simply. (It's an *old* program, I've had a copy sitting around for *years* and I use it every once in a while. Written by some programmer at 3dRealms I believe - it was hard to find the last time I had to look.)
It lets you search for a value in memory, and by changing it a few times it'll figure out exactly where that value is stored and then let you change it. I started at about 3 grubs (just because there are too many '1's and a lot of '2''s floating around in memory.) By 7 it had found the memory location and locked on, and I went straight to 99,999 to see what happened when I delivered the last grub.
One note is that you need to know how many grubs you've already given DeCava when you start this - I started from a point where I knew I hadn't given him any yet so I was sure to get the count right! Otherwise one couldn't find the critical memory location.
By the way, there are some interesting, related, open questions. My method (obviously) let me skip the majority of the 100,000. Are there any other 'hidden messages' for other values of grubs? For instance, upon handing DeCava the 50,000th does he say 'Halfway done!' or the equivalent? I don't know, and I probably won't check. (Unless I get bored. You know, bored enough to go and find out what happens when I give DeCava some number of grubs... Like I've ever been that bored.)
I used it to set the value to 32,765 (just in case it hit he limit on INTs) and polished the leg again and the guy said he was out of money.
I then set it to 32,765,000 and went to buy the map peice, and although the money displays correctly when I mouse over it, Guybrush still says he doesn't have 6,000,000 peices of eight.
EDIT: Upon further testing, setting the money to anything oevr 32,767 and Guybrush claims to not have enough money to buy anything in the gift shop.
EDIT: And the limit for money he'll give you for polishing is somewhere below 5,999 (to charter Kate Capsize's ship costs 6,000)
It kind of reminded me of one of the puzzles in Monkey Island 2, where you could polish the guys pegleg for 1 piece of eight. And one of the map pieces (or something) was for sale in a shop for a rediculous price.
My brother and I got half way there before we figured out the real way to get through it. I'm tempted to go back and script it now to see if it would work.
For instance, upon handing DeCava the 50,000th does he say 'Halfway done!' or the equivalent? I don't know, and I probably won't check. (Unless I get bored. You know, bored enough to go and find out what happens when I give DeCava some number of grubs... Like I've ever been that bored.)
He has two more lines somewhere in there. Just FYI.
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And I don't think it will work since he stops counting them after the first. But I would really like to test if it would work out.
Have fun with that...
We can use a bot that repeatedly moves the mouse :-P
Anyways, what happens is:
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Game's been out for.. ooh... 4 days?
You should do a video clip and put it on YouTube in that case
My brother and I got half way there before we figured out the real way to get through it. I'm tempted to go back and script it now to see if it would work.
Has anyone else tried it?
I've just done it too and it happens exactly as he says:
I tried to get a video too but failed, if no-one else has done one by tomorrow I'll have another attempt and upload to Youtube if I succeed.
Now was this on the easy mode or the hard mode. On the easy mode, the map piece was only, what, 5 or 6 thousand pieces of eight, but on the hard mode the map piece was several million. If the numbers of eight was stored as an 'int', then the several million would be unobtainable even with my 'methods'.
PS. I've made a video, and am trying to get it uploaded. My first attempt (recorded it with fraps, failed on upload to youtube, so I'm trying again.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRl-1txp0tQ
Sorry that the quality is not the best.
I...don't...believe it.
I sit corrected!
Though.. anyone think that when he repeats "Dusky leaf monkey" Guybrush seems a bit.. hypnotized?
I thought he sounded more exhausted than anything.
I believe he runs out of money one coin short of item you are trying to buy.
was there a .txt file or somethibng???
It did when I tried to do it to get 20 peices to charter the ship, I've just scripted it up in Autoit. The goal is 6 million peices of eight, and it takes about 9 seconds per peice of eight.
I'll let you know when it's done what happened. By my math, that's 625 days non-stop. I'll have to pause a few times and save and come back. If I remember when it's done in a few years, I'll let you know.
Acutally.....I can probably speed this up if I script in hitting ESC to skip the dialogue.
We'll see if i can speed this up a little and get back to you.
EDIT: This one doesn't seem to be skippable.
Probably just changed the value in memory directly. Kinda like what a game genie used to do for nintendo games.
Indeed. This is the gist. For people who don't want to know I will put spoiler tabs around the full explanation.
It lets you search for a value in memory, and by changing it a few times it'll figure out exactly where that value is stored and then let you change it. I started at about 3 grubs (just because there are too many '1's and a lot of '2''s floating around in memory.) By 7 it had found the memory location and locked on, and I went straight to 99,999 to see what happened when I delivered the last grub.
One note is that you need to know how many grubs you've already given DeCava when you start this - I started from a point where I knew I hadn't given him any yet so I was sure to get the count right! Otherwise one couldn't find the critical memory location.
By the way, there are some interesting, related, open questions. My method (obviously) let me skip the majority of the 100,000. Are there any other 'hidden messages' for other values of grubs? For instance, upon handing DeCava the 50,000th does he say 'Halfway done!' or the equivalent? I don't know, and I probably won't check. (Unless I get bored. You know, bored enough to go and find out what happens when I give DeCava some number of grubs... Like I've ever been that bored.)
I used it to set the value to 32,765 (just in case it hit he limit on INTs) and polished the leg again and the guy said he was out of money.
I then set it to 32,765,000 and went to buy the map peice, and although the money displays correctly when I mouse over it, Guybrush still says he doesn't have 6,000,000 peices of eight.
EDIT: Upon further testing, setting the money to anything oevr 32,767 and Guybrush claims to not have enough money to buy anything in the gift shop.
EDIT: And the limit for money he'll give you for polishing is somewhere below 5,999 (to charter Kate Capsize's ship costs 6,000)
Becuase you'll be missing a LOT Of things that you would need to finish the Game
Murray as Santino
The Various Faces for the nun
Morgan's picture of Guybrush...
Your inventory (and the rest of the game space) is updated to be what it 'should' be at that point in the game.
I love it
That is awesome.
i'm thinking some kinda of DEV HACK? lol
edit: nevermind.. I love it..
good use of time! LOL!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yDeiCQxm2A
You, sir, are evil. Along with your entire team. All of them!
You guys are evil.