How Should ToMI End?

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  • edited October 2009
    I voted for strangely. I'm hoping for something akin to LeChuck's Revenge that will keep fans speculating for years to come, or at least until Monkey 6.
  • edited October 2009
    Unsolved mysteries are universally more interesting than solved ones.
  • edited October 2009
    PariahKing wrote: »
    Unsolved mysteries are universally more interesting than solved ones.

    Yeah, but kinda frustrating too. I can imagine it takes alot of effort to make these episodic games (I read in Marty's Dom Armato interview he flew in to town 5 times to record all 5 episodes) and they'd have to be a great success to warrent a sequal. So far, ToMI has been, i think, incredible and very well recieved, but it'll have to be a cut above that perhaps to go through it all again. Apart from the 10 year break, does anyone know how long TellTale have been working to make Tales?

    I'd love to see a sequal, but if we're getting antsy to see the next episode already, then a cold closing to the series would probably leave more people squirming to see the rest, and that would easily take more than a mere month to wait. Tales can still have a satisfying ending while leaving room for a sequal. Even if it did have a firm "The End", its Guybrush Threepwood, Mighty Pirate™. He can have a whole new tale set a year later with the same characters and just be a seperate story. They've done it with every Monkey Island game to date really.
  • edited October 2009
    Takun wrote: »
    Yeah, but kinda frustrating too. I can imagine it takes alot of effort to make these episodic games (I read in Marty's Dom Armato interview he flew in to town 5 times to record all 5 episodes) and they'd have to be a great success to warrent a sequal. So far, ToMI has been, i think, incredible and very well recieved, but it'll have to be a cut above that perhaps to go through it all again. Apart from the 10 year break, does anyone know how long TellTale have been working to make Tales?
    I'm pretty sure the earliest whispers around the Telltale office of the deal started something like 6 months before the announcement in June.

    Of course, this is when the game was secret, when they probably didn't know many details that they would about an established series, and when they didn't have any pre-existing assets from previous seasons to use. I'm not sure how much that would affect a "next season", though I'm pretty sure they're revisiting Sam and Max next. They said we'd probably see Sam and Max Season Three this year before Monkey Island derailed it, so they have a game in pre-production in that series right now(is my guess).
  • edited October 2009
    I'm pretty sure the earliest whispers around the Telltale office of the deal started something like 6 months before the announcement in June.

    Of course, this is when the game was secret, when they probably didn't know many details that they would about an established series, and when they didn't have any pre-existing assets from previous seasons to use. I'm not sure how much that would affect a "next season", though I'm pretty sure they're revisiting Sam and Max next. They said we'd probably see Sam and Max Season Three this year before Monkey Island derailed it, so they have a game in pre-production in that series right now(is my guess).

    So it'd be a good while before the Threepwood crew set sail again, right? All the more reason I hope it doesn't end with "To Be Continued." I couldn't even wait til Ep 3 was released on Wii, I had to sign up for the pc download instead.
  • edited October 2009
    I liked CMI's end. It can end happily, yet leave room for it to continue.
  • edited October 2009
    BeeKay84 wrote: »
    But there are many people out there who - for some strange reasons - would want Guybrush to end up with Morgan, it seems. So, in order not to disappoint any of the players, I guess the best solution would indeed be for the player to decide who Guybrush ends up with? Two alternative endings for every taste.

    And you know what, alternative endings aren't such a bad idea at all! Remember the Indiana Jones adventure games by LucasArts? They both had several alternative endings!

    That's not possible. How would it continue if you can have two different endings in the TT series? I vote for Guybrush & Morgan though.
    Randulf wrote: »
    As MI is still a LucasArt franchise, Telltale presumably has to leave it the way they found it

    That's not possible either. Too many things have changed. Guybrush lost his hand, I dont think TT will glue it to his arm now. Not to mention the Voodoo Lady and LeChuck :P
  • edited October 2009
    I don't want to see any cliff hangers. I can wait a month between episodes, but Episode 5 needs to end the current story (human LeChuck, the pox, etc.)
  • edited October 2009
    rootbeer wrote: »
    That's not possible. How would it continue if you can have two different endings in the TT series?


    Quite easily. Theres 2 different ways to wrap up the first game. You can sink your own ship, stranding Carla, Otis and Meathook, or leave the ship and sail back with them, forgetting Herman Toothrot on Monkey Island.

    Either one you pick, by number 4 its (canon speaking) been revealed Guybrush stranded his original crew and sailed off in Hermans boat. I can see though the big different between something like that and if Guybrush will wind up with Elaine or Morgan (and like you, I'd vote for the new girl.)
  • edited October 2009
    4).Elaine and LeChuck - Come'on LeChuck WANTS to worship her, Let him! If he can be a good guy and do it, fine!

    just my two cents
    But if LeChuck gets what he wants (Elaine), there's no more reason for him to fight Guybrush for her! Which means there won't be any more Monkey Island sequels!

    Just my two cents.

    As for the alternative ending making a sequel impossible - like Takun said, in EMI they just claimed Guybrush sank the ship in SMI. Which seemed stupid to me, because I would think most people replayed from a savegame at that point without sinking the ship (at least I did)...
    Anyways, one way to start a potential sequel after you got to decide which of the girls Guybrush should get would be as simple as can be: Let Guybrush be alone at the beginning of the new sequel, and let both women be mad at him. Much like with Guybrush and Elaine in MI2. We never really knew what happened between them in between the two games, either.
  • edited October 2009
    BeeKay84 wrote: »
    Anyways, one way to start a potential sequel after you got to decide which of the girls Guybrush should get would be as simple as can be: Let Guybrush be alone at the beginning of the new sequel, and let both women be mad at him. Much like with Guybrush and Elaine in MI2. We never really knew what happened between them in between the two games, either.

    Ye Gods.. its Genius! Put this man on a silver platter and take both him and his idea to the neccisary people, now!
  • edited October 2009
    Takun wrote: »
    Put this man on a silver platter and take both him and his idea to the neccisary people, now!
    Yeah, thank you, but before you do that - wait for my sex change operation, so it really will be a man on your silver platter. :rolleyes:
  • edited October 2009
    I think it should end with
    Murray Escaping from the chest
    ..... or a dance number with Treasure Crab.
    Murray__s_fate_monkey_island_by_Irishmile.jpg
  • edited October 2009
    BeeKay84 wrote: »
    Yeah, thank you, but before you do that - wait for my sex change operation, so it really will be a man on your silver platter. :rolleyes:

    Aw thats okay, I'd feel better about carrying a woman on a silver platter to be honest, lol.
  • edited October 2009
    Takun wrote: »
    Aw thats okay, I'd feel better about carrying a woman on a silver platter to be honest, lol.
    Good. Because I'd feel better about not having to have a sex change operation, too. ;)

    But seriously, I know that alternative ending talk is stupid - and I know they wouldn't do it anyways. I'm just getting a little sick of all the Elaine vs. Morgan talk around here, so... That was my way of retaliating, I guess. ;)
  • edited October 2009
    BeeKay84 wrote: »
    Good. Because I'd feel better about not having to have a sex change operation, too. ;)

    But seriously, I know that alternative ending talk is stupid - and I know they wouldn't do it anyways. I'm just getting a little sick of all the Elaine vs. Morgan talk around here, so... That was my way of retaliating, I guess. ;)

    Yeah, I hear its like.. a series of operations too. Glad we could talk you out of it hun, it was a pretty silly idea of yours, really.... (Sorry, couldn't resist.)

    I agree that I cant imagine them doing it, but still, I really like that idea. The E vs M debate is getting a bit carried on, and TTG are just as likely to have an ending to it all where one half would wind up pleased and the other bitterly dissappointed. I cant see why they couldnt just make something simple like that, but then I spose it'd boil down to "10 years of marriage" going one way or the other over a 5 month game.
  • edited October 2009
    Takun wrote: »


    I agree that I cant imagine them doing it, but still, I really like that idea. The E vs M debate is getting a bit carried on, and TTG are just as likely to have an ending to it all where one half would wind up pleased and the other bitterly dissappointed. I cant see why they couldnt just make something simple like that, but then I spose it'd boil down to "10 years of marriage" going one way or the other over a 5 month game.

    I think the smart idea would be to give fans what they've already proven to market for and know...not to enter sociologically questionable territory and create problems and a bad image for their selves...that's just me.
  • edited October 2009
    doodo! wrote: »
    I think the smart idea would be to give fans what they've already proven to market for and know...not to enter sociologically questionable territory and create problems and a bad image for their selves...that's just me.

    It might be the 1am timeframe, week of early starts and lack of sleep catching up.. but i had to re-read that a few times for that to sink in, haha. Well put really, and a good point.
  • DelDel
    edited October 2009
    :eek:Guybrush will set a vodoo with the sponge und use it in the wind machine in flotslam island to heal all the carabean!!!
  • edited October 2009
    Del wrote: »
    :eek:Guybrush will set a vodoo with the sponge und use it in the wind machine in flotslam island to heal all the carabean!!!

    Well, thanks for giving away the ending. No, but seriously, that does make a lot of sense.
  • puzzleboxpuzzlebox Telltale Alumni
    edited October 2009
    Del wrote: »
    :eek:Guybrush will set a vodoo with the sponge und use it in the wind machine in flotslam island to heal all the carabean!!!

    Great idea!! You could be right on the mark there - stuff the sponge into one of the wind machines and set it to suck.

    Maybe we need spoiler tags in the speculation threads :D
  • edited October 2009
    I want Guybrush to be the hero and get the girl (whether it be Elaine or Morgan). I'd like the main plot resolved, with a hint of what's to come in Season Two.
  • edited October 2009
    Guybrush and Morgan could always just be friends and crewmates. They don't HAVE to be lovers and Guybrush doesn't HAVE to dump Elaine.
  • edited October 2009
    Guybrush and Morgan could always just be friends and crewmates. They don't HAVE to be lovers and Guybrush doesn't HAVE to dump Elaine.
    Replace the "don't have to" and "doesn't have to" with "mustn't", then I fully agree. ;)
  • edited October 2009
    BeeKay84 wrote: »
    Replace the "don't have to" and "doesn't have to" with "mustn't", then I fully agree. ;)

    After all, they are married, right?
  • edited October 2009
    Tales should end in a way that neatly wraps up not only the game but possibly the series as well. One of the disappointing aspects of Escape was the ending. It left you with a feeling of, "This is it? It's 2007, we'll probably never see another Monkey Island game and it ends like this?"
  • puzzleboxpuzzlebox Telltale Alumni
    edited October 2009
    Mermaid wrote: »
    After all, they are married, right?

    Yes! Cheating on his wife would not be cool. And he won't :p

    Of the girls on here, I wonder how many support Elaine, and how many would like to see Guybrush get with Morgan?
  • edited October 2009
    puzzlebox wrote: »
    Of the girls on here, I wonder how many support Elaine, and how many would like to see Guybrush get with Morgan?

    Start a poll...
  • puzzleboxpuzzlebox Telltale Alumni
    edited October 2009
    Start a poll...

    Done :)
  • edited October 2009
    I hope GT gathers an even bigger crew. like besides winslow also morgan joins and maybe even a third one. and in season two the crew is still there and even enlarges, the narwhal maybe destroyed and they search for a new ship in one episode of season two. that would just be awesome. it would suck if after TOMI the status quo from the older games will be back and GT is again a little lonesome wannabe pirate. TTG should realy focus on making him bit by bit into an old sea-bear. characterdevelopment is the word.
  • edited October 2009
    I think what makes it so difficult to decide on what would be the best possible end to Tales is that in fact we've only had one villain that's been around since the beginning and has re-returned for the same objective ever since. Hence it is hardly imaginable to have LeChuck missing.

    You could compare this to James Bond - he's having a fresh antagonist with (at least) slightly different evil aims with every new movie there is.
    But since this Guybrush-Elaine-LeChuck triangle has become so much of a core piece of the saga it's hard to imagine that one of these charactes might be missing in a sequel. But if they are to keep all three of them AND not risking the plot to become boring, at least one of the characters has to change their intentions to good or bad.

    I don't see why (as long as he's evil) LeChuck would give up on his initial plan to get Elaine and kill Guybrush. So we need a twist here, caused by the pox (of which Guybrush, as we now, has already been cured from). My guess is that Elaine is to undergo some serious character twist that will leave us with a strange "to be continued" ending of Tales. She might turn evil and now it's LeChuck and Guybrush (both in love with her) teaming up to first fight against, but ultimately cure her from this evil.

    As with Morgan, I really don't know where to put her. Personally I don't think that she'll have an appearance in further sequels.
  • DelDel
    edited October 2009
    Well, thanks for giving away the ending. No, but seriously, that does make a lot of sense.

    Just to say that my insight AAAAARRRRRREEEEDDDD chapter 4!
  • edited October 2009
    Everything should end...

    WITH EXPLOSIONS!!!
  • edited October 2009
    It should all be a complete cop-out with everything going exactly back to the way it had been (like la Flay et al. going elsewhere and not competition for Elaine etc.) and they should make fun of their own cop-out.

    That's the way all things should end.
  • edited October 2009
    It should end by announcing season two
  • edited October 2009
    Not the best poll. It's definitely going to have a happy end, and I doubt they would leave room for a cliffhanger considering there are no definite plans for a second season. Every good game ends with a solid but open ending, leaving room for a sequel. Cliffhangers are just asking for trouble (see Longest Journey/Dreamfall).
  • edited October 2009
    If TTG can pull off a good "(In some obscure way) all of the above" ending then how could it NOT be the best choice?
    Everything else would be boring compared to that, right?
  • edited October 2009
    TofuHead wrote: »
    Not the best poll.

    Ouch :(... Hehe, just kidding
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