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Stan's coat - curious bug.

OlegdrOlegdr
edited November 2009 in Tales of Monkey Island
Just started playing the new chapter and I have a curious bug. The square pattern on Stan's coat is not moving together with Stan when Stan himself is moving (for example leaning left or right while talking. This produces the effect that the squares are in fact shifting on his coat.

Totally harmless but still I'm curious if anybody else getting this. Using a Radeon HD2600XT on Vista. Game graphic set to 9.
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  • jadetermegjadetermeg
    edited October 2009
    That's a running gag througout the Monkey Island series. Anything else would be shocking.
  • wkjezzwkjezz
    edited October 2009
    That's kinda how Stan's coat is supposed to act.
  • GraywingGraywing
    edited October 2009
    its not a bug, its a feature
  • GeypiGeypi
    edited October 2009
    That's how it's supposed to be. Actually a lot of artists do that in their cartoons. So that they don't spend so much time on all the animation. It's like the blue screen editing.
  • Matt HMatt H Telltale Alumni
    edited October 2009
    Getting Stan's jacket to look like it does now was #1 on our TO-DO list for this episode.
  • MunkyMunky
    edited October 2009
    Matt H wrote: »
    Getting Stan's jacket to look like it does now was #1 on our TO-DO list for this episode.
    ...and it looks great :)
  • anotherlifeanotherlife
    edited October 2009
    IT'S STAN

    Play the old games before you say something.. Stans coat is the best :)

    Where can i buy that hehe
  • tmfm2000tmfm2000
    edited October 2009
    I just assumed he was joking?
    the smiley in the title etc..
  • anotherlifeanotherlife
    edited October 2009
    tmfm2000 wrote: »
    I just assumed he was joking?
    the smiley in the title etc..

    Hehe don't think he's joking
  • GuybrushSheepbloodGuybrushSheepblood
    edited October 2009
    STAN!!!!!!!


    Nothing more I can say beyond that..
  • ttg_Stemmlettg_Stemmle Telltale Alumni
    edited October 2009
    Matt H wrote: »
    Getting Stan's jacket to look like it does now was #1 on our TO-DO list for this episode.

    He's not kidding. I wrote it up as the very first bug in the episode. Teams of engineers worked tirelessly, forsaking the warmth of their wives and the laughter of their children, just to get that fershlugginer jacket to look right.

    I nearly wept when I saw it.

    Of course, I weep rather easily.

    Mike
  • TallinTallin
    edited October 2009
    Olegdr wrote: »
    Just started playing the new chapter and I have a curious bug. The square pattern on Stan's coat is not moving together with Stan when Stan himself is moving (for example leaning left or right while talking. This produces the effect that the squares are in fact shifting on his coat.

    Totally harmless but still I'm curious if anybody else getting this. Using a Radeon HD2600XT on Vista. Game graphic set to 9.

    It's such a terrible bug that it retroactively infected every previous Monkey Island game...

    ;)
  • OlegdrOlegdr
    edited October 2009
    Nope wasn't joking - Honestly it's been years since I played the previous games, so I didn't remember.

    I assume bailiff Hardtack standing in two places at once a screen away (courthouse entrance and jungle entrance) is also in that category.
  • apenpaapapenpaap
    edited October 2009
    When I heard about Stan coming back, I bet myself 10 euros this thread would pop up.
  • ttg_Stemmlettg_Stemmle Telltale Alumni
    edited October 2009
    Olegdr wrote: »
    Nope wasn't joking - Honestly it's been years since I played the previous games, so I didn't remember.

    I assume bailiff Hardtack standing in two places at once a screen away (courthouse entrance and jungle entrance) is also in that category.

    Nah, he's just surprisingly spry.
  • JakeJake Telltale Alumni
    edited October 2009
    Olegdr wrote: »
    Nope wasn't joking - Honestly it's been years since I played the previous games, so I didn't remember.

    I assume bailiff Hardtack standing in two places at once a screen away (courthouse entrance and jungle entrance) is also in that category.

    stan.gif

    stan3.gif

    stan2.gif

    Hopefully this is what you're seeing, more or less.
  • EricPEricP Telltale Alumni
    edited October 2009
    ttg_Stemmle wrote: »
    Of course, I weep rather easily.

    It's true. Like, 3 times so far today.
  • nikasaurnikasaur Telltale Alumni
    edited October 2009
    EricP wrote: »
    It's true. Like, 3 times so far today.

    Hey, two of those don't count. If a Vaycaylian sauntered up and offered you candy, you'd cry too.

    ...Twice.
  • PirateguybrushPirateguybrush
    edited October 2009
    Honestly, this was my biggest concern: could the TTT handle Stan's jacket?

    It appears that it can. Well done guys.
  • 108 Stars108 Stars
    edited October 2009
    I must honestly say that I would have never believed there would be a thread like this. I was so sure nobody would believe this to be a bug, but I was wrong!

    Anyway, great that Telltales managed to get the effect done so nicely. :)
  • WoodsyblueWoodsyblue
    edited October 2009
    I find it hilarious that in the first two Monkey Island games they did Stan's coat like that because it was far far easier than programing it realistically but in the new Monkey Island games the programmers have to go very far out of their way to achieve the same effect. Something that was originally a time saver has now turned into a focus, a number 1 priority even, according to Matt H.

    If only they hadn't cut corners in the original games, then life would be much easier for people working on the games down the line :p
  • FronzelFronzel
    edited October 2009
    It's not a jacket, it's a portal into the plaid dimension.

    Stan keep eternal vigal over it, lest it fall into the wrong hands.

    ...

    Well, you didn't think he wears something like that voluntarily, did you?
  • MelanctonMelancton
    edited October 2009
    Troll? Or accidental troll? You decide.
  • OlegdrOlegdr
    edited October 2009
    Melancton wrote: »
    Troll? Or accidental troll? You decide.

    Who, me?
  • eMKayeNeMKayeN
    edited October 2009
    This is how you spot a noob to the Monkey Island series. ;)
  • GaryCXJkGaryCXJk
    edited October 2009
    N00bs are idiots, newbies aren't.

    Newbies are always new, n00bs aren't.
  • VisstixVisstix
    edited October 2009
    just wanted to quote myself from another thread
    Really nice job on stans coat texture. I was wondering if it was possible in 3d. Is it projected on the coat or something?

    dunno if it can be projected because it's in 3d and stans shape should alter the plaid texture as well.
    they probably won't tell the secret haha. just curious
  • KevinD872KevinD872
    edited October 2009
    I think the jacket came out great! There is a very slight translucent look to it (you can almost see the plain white model underneath it at times) but that is just nitpicking. I think they did an excellent job.
  • OlegdrOlegdr
    edited October 2009
    I'm not a newbie the problem that the most recent MI game I played was about 2-3 years ago... I really didn't remember that his pattern was supposed to be like that.
  • eskimoeskimo
    edited October 2009
    Olegdr wrote: »
    I'm not a newbie the problem that the most recent MI game I played was about 2-3 years ago... I really didn't remember that his pattern was supposed to be like that.

    No need to defend yourself, just apologize to the broken-hearted engineers at tell-tale who poured their hearts and souls into getting the jacket just right.

    They were told, that if anyone complained that the jacket looked wrong, they'd be given 50 lashes per thread view, and now.....LOOK AT WHAT YOU'VE DONE!!!!

    You cruel, cruel person.
  • Lennie MelvinLennie Melvin
    edited October 2009
    YEah I love you guys, that jacket just made my day :)
  • puzzleboxpuzzlebox Telltale Alumni
    edited October 2009
    I love the way Stan is introduced.

    You're in the courtroom, the judge says "Where is that incompetent prosecutor?", the view cuts to an extreme close-up of THAT jacket and in the instant before anyone speaks, your heart almost pops with a sudden swell of childlike joy... :D

    ... or maybe that was just me. :)

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  • apenpaapapenpaap
    edited October 2009
    ^No, it definatly wasn't just you. It was the same reaction with me.
  • PirateUnwrittenPirateUnwritten
    edited October 2009
    I want one of those jackets
  • apenpaapapenpaap
    edited October 2009
    ^ So do I. Unfortunatly, that jacket is probably the most sci-fiy thing in all Monkey Island games, as I really don't see humanity developing the technology for it for at least another 200 years.
  • FlahFlah
    edited October 2009
    nikasaur wrote: »
    Hey, two of those don't count. If a Vaycaylian sauntered up and offered you candy, you'd cry too.

    ...Twice.

    Can a Vaycaylian saunter if they don't have legs?
  • RubarackRubarack
    edited October 2009
    Unfortunately they put his picture up in the installer so the effect was totally ruined for me. Still an awesome job on the jacket.
  • LeakLeak
    edited October 2009
    Rubarack wrote: »
    Unfortunately they put his picture up in the installer so the effect was totally ruined for me. Still an awesome job on the jacket.
    Nevermind the picture posted on Telltale's blog anouncing ToMI 4's release date... :D
  • GuineaGuinea
    edited October 2009
    Olegdr wrote: »
    I assume bailiff Hardtack standing in two places at once a screen away (courthouse entrance and jungle entrance) is also in that category.

    You'll laugh but I got so used to TTG recycling the models for the characters, that I just thought they were two different people. It took me a while to realize that they're the same guy, not just share a model.
  • WarlordX40WarlordX40
    edited October 2009
    ttg_Stemmle wrote: »
    He's not kidding. I wrote it up as the very first bug in the episode. Teams of engineers worked tirelessly, forsaking the warmth of their wives and the laughter of their children, just to get that fershlugginer jacket to look right.

    I nearly wept when I saw it.

    Of course, I weep rather easily.

    Mike

    All the pain was worth it, looked fantastic
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