MAJOR SPOILERS: The ending could mean...

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  • edited October 2009
    Lup wrote: »
    this is not my statement! its just a quote from MI3. It's what Mort the Gravedigger says after guybrush faked his own death to get into the Goodsoup family crypt.
    so go tell him! ;)

    Lol. Sorry!

    In order to add a bit to the discussion, do you know what I would LOVE?

    I would love to start next episode playing Morgan right when Guybrush leaves her. Or a bit earlier so we know what happened to her.
  • edited October 2009
    Hang on.. Stan said he was in the coffin for three months, but Elaine says that she didnt see Guybrush after the end of the second game for three *years*.

    Bearing in mind that Wally managed to get through twelve installments of LeChuck's monthly guide on how to be a pirate by the time he meets Guybrush again in CMI, is he a fast reader or a very slow one?!

    This. I noticed that too.Maybe the secret of monkey island is that it's the island from LOST, hence: time differences.
  • edited October 2009
    Well maybe ... *spoiler*
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    guybrush will wake up in the 9th underworld to meet glottis, and they will figure out, how to resurrect him
  • edited October 2009
    sturm wrote: »
    (how do you make these fonts disguise thing, anyway?)
    Use the tag [ spoiler ] and [ /spoiler ], but without the extra spaces.
  • edited October 2009
    tmsmyth4 wrote: »
    The rowboat disappeared from next to the fire after her body disappeared so i assume we are to believe she made off on that? come to think of it im surprised at the number of red herrings in this game, expected the fire/oil/molten glass to come in useful
    Takun wrote: »
    I kinda thought that too for a moment, until I remembered that you can tell Elaine in the last part that DeSinge killed Morgan; Poxed Elaine just mentions that maybe he's not that bad after all, and I can imagine with half the things she's been ranting about, she'd take credit if she ran Morgan through herself. '


    Now Im giggling remembering her yelling at Morgan to stay away from Guybrush's pants. Heh.
    The rowboat doesn't dissapear, it's still there but it has been 'sunk by angry pox-pirates' or so says Guybrush. Go next to the fire and look in the water.

    EDIT:
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  • edited October 2009
    I think De Singe trick morgan that he had kidnapped Guybrush and stabbed Morgan.
  • edited October 2009
    Hang on.. Stan said he was in the coffin for three months, but Elaine says that she didnt see Guybrush after the end of the second game for three *years*.

    Bearing in mind that Wally managed to get through twelve installments of LeChuck's monthly guide on how to be a pirate by the time he meets Guybrush again in CMI, is he a fast reader or a very slow one?!

    I feel like I might've seen her say that before, but I can't remember her saying anything about it other than "I thought I'd lost you forever." Besides, Guybrush gives his age as 19 in the Phatt City library, and when he has Dinghy Dog guess his age in Curse, he's 20.

    Besides, if the Carnival of the Damned had been an in-game puzzle and not an in-between games event, no self-respecting adventure gamer would've taken three years to solve it.
  • edited October 2009
    Hang on.. Stan said he was in the coffin for three months, but Elaine says that she didnt see Guybrush after the end of the second game for three *years*.

    I assumed she was exaurating to get him in trouble cos of the pox
  • edited October 2009
    I was completely shaken by this episode - in an awesome way. I never thought so much can happen in just one episode - allies become foes, the world upside down, Morgan and Guybrush dead...

    Although 90% of me screams for Guybrush to be resurrected in any way possible, there's still about 10% that says.. well, dying is dying. It's final. Even LeChuck wasn't truly immortal, as he was an undead corpse, as far away from actual living as one gets. Sure, the Voodoo Lady's knick-knacks brought Rapp Scallion back from the dead, but only for a minute. And somehow, deep down, I really wouldn't like Guybrush to be revived by voodoo. It would equate him with LeChuck in a way. I would take his death, but only if Elaine REALLY kicked LeChuck's ass from Melee to Monkey and through all the islands inbetween. That way, it would be worthy.

    As for the resurrection possibility, I hope it won't be his hand. La Esponja Grande sucked up all the Pox, so there is no reason for the hand to stand poxed any longer. Probably, it'll just wither away and die.
  • edited October 2009
    However...this ending was LEGENDARY !!! (Barney Stinson's style)

    This ending was legen.. wait for it..dary!!!!

    I think Morgan is on the screaming Narwahl with Winslow!
    and Guybrush will be healed by his own hand whitch got a little "however desinge called it" in.

    have to go
    can´t wait to episode 5 :)

    Deny
  • edited October 2009
    have you guys noticed that telltale seems to go against us? after chapter 2 everybody was talking about the pyrite parrot, and BAM, next chapter, he's gone. We loved how well Winslow's character is developing, and they practically disabled him completly (almost nowhere in ch.3 and in ch4 on TSN and unseen throughout.) We started loving Morgan and they bloody kill her! Why must they go against everything we love?
  • edited October 2009
    i thnk its cool to se how the pot has involved, and they realy picked up the idea of the voodoo lady being the real villan^^
    but i think its the first time a friend of the main charakter died in one of the LA/TT games.... or even the main charakter himself....but guybrush cant die he is a mighty pirate
  • edited October 2009
    I'm surprised no one is talking about the jus de vie. Maybe I just have the wrong thread. It just seems that if we're using the pox to make eternal life, it could be used to resurrect fallen characters-- or perhaps even already has. I haven't ruled out the possibility that de Singe snuck away at some point to experiment on Morgan's corpse and see if she could be brought back. I also haven't ruled out that she never really died in the first place. I saw a distinct lack of checking of pulses in both deaths.

    As for who killed Morgan, definitely don't think it was de Singe. There's some sort of underlying plot here involving the monkeys, perhaps, even, dare I say it . . . the secret of monkey island!!! (Apparently I do dare say it). Point is, Morgan's murder is clearly tied to that underlying plot, and not the more superficial ones of de Singe and Elaine. I'm not ruling out LeChuck, because clearly there is more going on with him than meets the eye.
  • edited October 2009
    ^ yhea, but if le esponja cleared the pox, shouldn't the poxed hand be healed as well?
  • edited October 2009
    Mataku wrote: »
    ^ yhea, but if le esponja cleared the pox, shouldn't the poxed hand be healed as well?
    I don't think the poxed hand ever came in contact with La Esponja. Remember, it was with DeSinge by the time Guybrush found it.
  • edited October 2009
    ^wat? The esponja cleared EVERYONE from the pox with the winds. Unless the hand had a windshield infront of it, i don't see how it wasn't affected.
  • edited October 2009
    Didn't the hand hide behind/under the Idol? That seems to be a good place not to get hit by the winds.
  • edited October 2009
    Rebirth wrote: »
    but i think its the first time a friend of the main charakter died in one of the LA/TT games.... or even the main charakter himself....but guybrush cant die he is a mighty pirate

    The whole scene reminded me of this:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QA_FpPhgbwE

    Starting from 1:44.
  • edited October 2009
    Maybe the hand isn't poxed the way the others were. It was in direct contact with LeChuck, rather than indirect.
  • edited October 2009
    lol
  • edited October 2009
    But there is one thing I didn`t understand. Why did the Jus de Vie lost its power, after the turban fell off? I mean it was working, when DeSinge got his finger broken by LeFlay in the Bar. And he wasn`t wearing any strange turban then.
  • Lol. Sorry!

    In order to add a bit to the discussion, do you know what I would LOVE?

    I would love to start next episode playing Morgan right when Guybrush leaves her. Or a bit earlier so we know what happened to her.
    Arrr, that be an interesting twist, me fellow-swashbuckler (Vantage Point inspired?). :)

    I'd love to see Guybrush's hand reviving him - single handed so to say - by performing some first aid stuff like a heart massage etc. :D
  • edited October 2009
    sturm wrote: »
    But there is one thing I didn`t understand. Why did the Jus de Vie lost its power, after the turban fell off? I mean it was working, when DeSinge got his finger broken by LeFlay in the Bar. And he wasn`t wearing any strange turban then.

    That is a great cosmic mystery. Or a logical error by Telltale Games.^^
    But hey, such errors can be found in any movie or TV series too, so just let it go. :)
  • edited October 2009
    108 Stars wrote: »
    That is a great cosmic mystery. Or a logical error by Telltale Games.^^
    But hey, such errors can be found in any movie or TV series too, so just let it go. :)

    Didn't he extract some Jus in a cut-scene in a previous episode as a test?
  • edited October 2009
    sturm wrote: »
    But there is one thing I didn`t understand. Why did the Jus de Vie lost its power, after the turban fell off? I mean it was working, when DeSinge got his finger broken by LeFlay in the Bar. And he wasn`t wearing any strange turban then.

    mabey he had enough in his system to fix a minor wound but not a big one
  • edited October 2009
    Nimeni wrote: »
    I'm surprised no one is talking about the jus de vie. Maybe I just have the wrong thread. It just seems that if we're using the pox to make eternal life, it could be used to resurrect fallen characters-- or perhaps even already has.

    I thought about that (at least in Morgan's case), but that creates another problem: when de Singe lost his steady supply of the Jus de Vie, he started to die from his wounds. So...even if Guybrush and Morgan were resurrected, if they weren't constantly supplied with the Jus de Vie (until their wounds healed, at least?), then wouldn't they just die again?
  • mabey he had enough in his system to fix a minor wound but not a big one
    WOUND? I wouldn't call getting-atomized a WOUND. :D
  • edited October 2009
    So we have to wave farewell to them both.
    Goodbye.
    RIP.
    Hasta la vista.
    Greet Calavera, when you see him.
    They`ve become one with the force.
    Left for good.
    Meet their root beer.
    They will live forever in our hearts.
    Got their Double-N tickets.
    Met their creator.
    Good Riddance.
    They are dust in the wind now.
    Performing the skeleton dance.


    (please add your last wishes ;-) )
  • edited October 2009
    WOUND? I wouldn't call getting-atomized a WOUND. :D

    I ment the stab to the chest as the wound part XD cos that was coming back but if you cut his cheak it dont return.

    its to bad hes the only doctor on the island cos he could really use it after getting shreaded
  • I ment the stab to the chest as the wound part XD cos that was coming back but if you cut his cheak it dont return.

    its to bad hes the only doctor on the island cos he could really use it after getting shreaded
    Reminds me of a Star Trek TOS quote: "Great Doctor, heal yourself!" :D
    sturm wrote: »
    So we have to wave farewell to them both.
    Goodbye.
    RIP.
    Hasta la vista.
    Greet Calavera, when you see him.
    They`ve become one with the force.
    Left for good.
    Meet their root beer.
    They will live forever in our hearts.
    Got their Double-N tickets.
    Met their creator.
    Good Riddance.
    They are dust in the wind now.
    Performing the skeleton dance.


    (please add your last wishes ;-) )
    Bought Stan's last coffin.
    Weared their last fine leather-jackets.
    De-cursed their last ghost-zombie-pirate.
    Spent their last 10 minutes below the surface.
    Drank their final Grog-a-tini.
    Swallowed their ultimate insult.
    Kissed their monkeys-goodbye.
    Lived long and (nearly) prosper!
    Got flushed through their personal Chron-o-John.
    Experienced their last seagull poo on their mighty-piratey-head.
    Went down (without a ship).
    Relived the short lifespan of a hamster in a microwave.
    Enjoyed their last time on ROSEBUD.
    Went where many have gone before.
    Got kicked from the second biggest feet they've ever seen.
    Took a long walk off a short plank.
    Swam (not) with the fishes.
    Saw their personal threeheaded monkey for the last time.

    And still I think (and hope) they are (not) really gone. :)
  • edited October 2009
    drank from the WRONG Holy Grail tm copyright by LucasArts and Special Effects Department
    took their final ride into the sunset
    have a date with the coroner
    nobody was faster on the draw
  • edited October 2009
    feverfew wrote: »
    I really wouldn't like Guybrush to be revived by voodoo. It would equate him with LeChuck in a way.

    Well, they're brothers after all :)
  • edited October 2009
    johanbcn wrote: »
    Well, they're brothers after all :)

    You know, the "brothers" thing is probably just as much a lie as the Big Whoop Carnival/Carnival of the Damned was. Just part of a plot to trap Guybrush forever.
  • edited October 2009
    You know, the "brothers" thing is probably just as much a lie as the Big Whoop Carnival/Carnival of the Damned was. Just part of a plot to trap Guybrush forever.

    And yet he did a functional Voodoo doll of LeChuck with his own parent's bones?
  • edited October 2009
    I think there will be a visual "flashback" in chapter 5 of what happened to Morgan.
    And maybe Morgan and Guybrush aren't really
    dead
    , just
    wound and faint (the disappeared body of Morgan makes me think, where is her now? Dead or alive?).
    Time will tell.

    If Guybrush is
    dead
    , will chapter 5 be played as Elaine? I don't think so. But, who knows.
    :)
  • edited October 2009
    GBTW wrote: »
    I think there will be a visual "flashback" in chapter 5 of what happened to Morgan.
    And maybe Morgan and Guybrush aren't really
    dead
    , just
    wound and faint (the disappeared body of Morgan makes me think, where is her now? Dead or alive?).
    Time will tell.

    If Guybrush is
    dead
    , will chapter 5 be played as Elaine? I don't think so. But, who knows.
    :)

    You'll get confirmation on a couple of those questions in the recent post about the Nintendo Power article. It reveals so much about Chapter 4's cliffhangers that they barely qualify now >.>
  • edited October 2009
    Maybee the strange machine in the voodoo ladys house was rescued and elaine has to use it to turn back time?
  • edited November 2009
    Maybe Guybrush's strain of virus needs direct contact with the sponge, because he had direct contact with LeChuck when he got it.
  • edited November 2009
    sturm wrote: »
    But there is one thing I didn`t understand. Why did the Jus de Vie lost its power, after the turban fell off? I mean it was working, when DeSinge got his finger broken by LeFlay in the Bar. And he wasn`t wearing any strange turban then.

    maybe he was wearing it as a diaper then ::barf::
  • Irishmile wrote: »
    Maybe Guybrush's strain of virus needs direct contact with the sponge, because he had direct contact with LeChuck when he got it.

    DeSinge said that Elaine had the same strain as Guybrush so the sponge shouldn't have worked for her as well without direct contact.
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