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[SPOILER ALERT] Chapter 4: List of Unanswered Questions

AgetianAgetian
edited November 2009 in Tales of Monkey Island
So, I just beat Chapter 4 and I've found it absolutely astonishing and amazing - truly epic, in all senses of the word. :) The storyline gets really interesting and strange, mysterious events of epic proportions start to unveil as we come so close to the season finale. If you haven't beaten Chapter 4 yet, do NOT read on and do NOT unlock the spoilers below, your game experience will be seriously spoiled - you've been warned. But for those of you who have already completed Chapter 4, please feel free to propose the discussion of any mysterious or just unclear things you've noticed so far (in Chapter 4 or maybe something from the earlier chapters) that haven't been answered so far in the game, and if you feel like it, propose your theories as to how exactly this or that mystery will get resolved in the end.

My list of unanswered questions so far:
1. What exactly happened at De Singe's lab between De Singe and Morgan? Was De Singe really the one who killed Morgan?
2. What was Morgan's line that Jacques the electric monkey told her something all about?
3. What happened to Morgan's body after Guybrush returned to De Singe's place later?
4. Is Morgan really dead or has she been just seriously injured and then healed, or perhaps, if she was dead, revived by someone?
5. Were LeChuck's words about the Voodoo Lady at least partly true?
6. What role will the Voodoo Lady play in the season finale? Will she prove to be good, evil, or just a neutral mediator seeking to restore balance between the good and the evil, or someone else entirely different? And will we actually learn more about her identity and intentions at the end of ToMI, or will she remain completely mysterious as ever?
7. Did Guybrush really die at the end of Chapter 4?
8. If Guybrush is dead, how will he get revived (if he will get revived of course)?
9. If Guybrush is dead and does not get revived at the very beginning of the season finale, who will we get to start the game as?
10. What has become of De Singe? Is he also dead, having been destroyed in the Vacaylian device, or have we not seen the last of him?
11. Who will be the Pirate God in the season finale?

A less Chapter 4-centric list of things that are just interesting to discuss, in my opinion:
1. What actually did happen to Murray, per Guybrush's question in Club 41? We've seen him descend to the bottom of the sea at the end of Chapter 3. Does that mean we're not going to see him again in ToMI, or will he return somehow in the season finale? Will the chest be found by someone, perhaps?..
2. Was LeChuck ever truly good in any of the previous chapters, or was he actually always intent on getting his zombie/undead/demon powers back, even when he appeared so human and harmless?
3. So far we've seen Guybrush, Elaine, LeChuck, Voodoo Lady, Murray, and Stan (did I miss anyone?..) among the returning characters from previous Monkey Island Games. Will we see any other classic Monkey Island characters in the season finale? If so, who will it be?
4. What will be the places of action of the season finale? Will we see the famous Monkey Island(TM) that appeared in the end of every Monkey Island game so far, will we see any familiar old islands, and will we see any new islands (except for Monkey Island if it's going to appear in ToMI), or has the place of action pretty much been set by now?
5. Will we finally learn at least something about the famous Secret of Monkey Island(TM)?

It'll be interesting to hear your opinions, guys! Also, I can't wait to play the finale and learn more about those things above... hopefully at least most of them will be resolved at the end of the game!

- Agetian
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  • feverfewfeverfew
    edited November 2009
    I'm personally curious if we get to see De Cava again. I feel that he and the Voodoo Lady should talk things out, if that's the very least she can do. He might have been bananas from the very beginning, but she has done him wrong too. And I'd be happy to see a reunion.

    Second thing, I'm curious about Guybrush's hand. What role will it play in the final unravelling?
  • pluizigpluizig
    edited November 2009
    What exacly was written in the diary, incriminating the Voodoo Lady?
  • NovotnusNovotnus
    edited November 2009
    1. What does Voodoo Lady's vision about Morgan means?
    2. What happened to the rowboat in the dock after Guybrush's trial?
    3. What's the role of all those monkeys of Montevideo?
  • feverfewfeverfew
    edited November 2009
    I can answer your second question: it got sunk. If you go to the very end of the pier, you can click it.
  • NovotnusNovotnus
    edited November 2009
    Well, that makes my Morgan-escape-in-the-rowboat theory false... but then again - who sunk it?
  • feverfewfeverfew
    edited November 2009
    Guybrush says
    it's been a bunch of poxed pirates. Probably
  • NovotnusNovotnus
    edited November 2009
    It's unlikely - they seem to act brutaly when something makes them angry - like offending the court for W.P., asking about glass letters suply for the glassblower or name calling the cat for Hemlock
  • IrishmileIrishmile
    edited November 2009
    didn't someone post a screencap of the boat already?
  • NovotnusNovotnus
    edited November 2009
    If so, I must've missed it.
  • capnpadfootcapnpadfoot
    edited November 2009
    What I'm wondering is what is the motivation between LeChuck's actions during all of the episodes.
    Was he always evil and just pretended to be good? Was he the one who killed Morgan? If so, why?

    Also,
    why did he turn himself in to save Guybrush? Was he just waiting for Guybrush to activate La Esponja before he killed him? I get that he was trying to get Guybrush to trust him so that he wouldn't be on his guard, but you could argue that he had already more or less achieved this.

    I can't wait to find out :D
  • NovotnusNovotnus
    edited November 2009
    LeChuck was near the Voodoo Lady, so there is a little chance she made him go after Guybrush or told him something that made him do what he did. The other option is that he was acting all along waiting for a chance to get his voodoo back
  • IgnatiusIgnatius
    edited November 2009
    I got some questions, probably silly ones:

    1-Is Winslow (and other pirates) cured form the pox, although being out of the Floatsam winds reach?

    2-The monkey in the Morgan scene did have not a metal-magnetic tail! http://www.telltalegames.com/forums/showthread.php?p=219068#post219068
  • KevinSigKevinSig
    edited November 2009
    To answer this question:

    2. What was
    Morgan's line that Jacques the electric monkey told her something all about?

    I think it was to explain
    that Guybrush's hand was the cause of DeSinge's immortality.
    That's the only reason I could think of, as to how Guybrush knew this
    about the hand in the finale.

    As to:

    8. If Guybrush
    is dead, how will he get revived (if he will get revived of course)?

    I suspect that
    Guybrush's poxed hand will get reattached & bring him back to life.

    Kevin
  • feverfewfeverfew
    edited November 2009
    KevinSig wrote: »
    I suspect that
    Guybrush's poxed hand will get reattached & bring him back to life.

    Kevin

    La Esponja sucked the Pox. The hand runs on the Pox. No Pox, the hand is dead. No brining back to life.
  • TilanTilan
    edited November 2009
    Agetian wrote: »
    2. What was Morgan's line that Jacques the electric monkey told her something all about?
    Am I the only one who's wondering how Jacques could have told her anything in the first place? He's a monkey...
  • IrishmileIrishmile
    edited November 2009
    Maybe Morgan actually is a monkey turned woman by means of voodoo... some people said she looks like a monkey and now she speaks monkey......
  • KevinSigKevinSig
    edited November 2009
    feverfew wrote: »
    La Esponja sucked the Pox. The hand runs on the Pox. No Pox, the hand is dead. No brining back to life.

    If it were as simple as that, Telltale would've shown the hand getting the pox removed. I suspect that somehow the hand will retain the Pox. Somehow, I think it will have somehow gotten sheltered from the sponge's effect.

    Kevin
  • FriarFriar
    edited November 2009
    I Heard somewhere, that chapter 5 will take place in the pirate underworld, the land of the dead. This would provide a link to Monkey Island, given that there is a portal to Hell there.
  • PlaneforgerPlaneforger
    edited November 2009
    capnpadfoot wrote: »
    Also,
    why did he turn himself in to save Guybrush? Was he just waiting for Guybrush to activate La Esponja before he killed him? I get that he was trying to get Guybrush to trust him so that he wouldn't be on his guard, but you could argue that he had already more or less achieved this.
    The Voodoo Lady would never have told LeChuck how to feed La Esponja, so he needed Guybrush to do it. I think it was all part of his grand plan to get his voodoo back.
    Plus, by turning himself in, he was able to get the The Voodoo Lady imprisoned too - one less obstacle in his path.
    KevinSig wrote: »
    I suspect that somehow the hand will retain the Pox. Somehow, I think it will have somehow gotten sheltered from the sponge's effect.
    I'm thinking that it hid under one of those glass domes, but that's just a total guess.
  • Secret FawfulSecret Fawful
    edited November 2009
    Friar wrote: »
    I heard somewhere, that chapter 5 will take place in the pirate underworld, the land of the dead. This would provide a link to Monkey Island, given that there is a portal to Hell there.

    Yeah that was in Nintendo Power. Oh, and please use spoiler tags.
  • Lennie MelvinLennie Melvin
    edited November 2009
    why didn't LeChuck just throw Guybrush off a cliff when he had the chance?
    Why wait?
  • Secret FawfulSecret Fawful
    edited November 2009
    Lennie Melvin wrote: »
    why didn't LeChuck just throw Guybrush off a cliff when he had the chance?
    Why wait?

    LeChuck doesn't have the adventuring knowledge to get La Esponja for himself; he needed Guybrush. Back in MI2 when he got the Guybrush voodoo doll, he used a priest to get it. He didn't put together his sinister master plan all by himself, he had minions to do it for him.
  • pluizigpluizig
    edited November 2009
    Tilan wrote: »
    Am I the only one who's wondering how Jacques could have told her anything in the first place? He's a monkey...

    In chapter 3 Morgan says that although she can't understand Manatee, she does speak a little Monkey.
  • IrishmileIrishmile
    edited November 2009
    Lennie Melvin wrote: »
    why didn't LeChuck just throw Guybrush off a cliff when he had the chance?
    Why wait?

    My guess is he needed time to get Elaine to fall in love with him so he figured let GT go off on his little adventure while he worked on the wife.
  • IgnatiusIgnatius
    edited November 2009
    But LeChuck DID throw Guybrush of a cliff.
    It didnt work out, but at least he tried.

    But yeah, he needed him to find the sponge.
  • JedExodusJedExodus
    edited November 2009
    What about this
    Threepwood strain of the pox Elaine supposedly has, marriage doesn't make your DNA composition change to that of your spouse, and unless the pox can be contracted that way (which we know hasn't happened) there's no reason Elaine would have this particular strain of the pox as all pox that every pirate has came from Guybrush originally
  • IrishmileIrishmile
    edited November 2009
    LOL @ arguing how a disease that only targets pirates would or wouldn't work
  • JedExodusJedExodus
    edited November 2009
    Irishmile wrote: »
    LOL @ arguing how a disease that only targets pirates would or wouldn't work

    Hey it's plot critical stuff man. If they married in some Voodoo ceremony that bound them together and that was why the strain lives on, i'd be happy with that for a reason....i'd be happy with any reason really, its only Monkey Island. but with deeper plots like this we need the rationale behind it...or not and i'm looking into this WAY too much. :p
  • doggansdoggans
    edited November 2009
    JedExodus wrote: »
    What about this
    Threepwood strain of the pox Elaine supposedly has, marriage doesn't make your DNA composition change to that of your spouse, and unless the pox can be contracted that way (which we know hasn't happened) there's no reason Elaine would have this particular strain of the pox as all pox that every pirate has came from Guybrush originally

    I just presumed it was due to both Guybrush and Elaine's proximity to the initial unleashing of the pox.
  • IrishmileIrishmile
    edited November 2009
    I think since Elaine and Guybrush where there when it started they would be patient 0-1 ... or would the medical world look at LeChuck as patient zero? Anyhow they would have the same strain and viruses often mutate into newer stains so De Singe named the first one the "Threepwood stain" being the first person who appeared to have it in his hand, I do not think he was referencing the host DNA (GT or Elaine) but the virus itself.

    Also since it is a Virus and LeChuck carries it he would also be the key for a vaccination although I doubt they would have the science to do so at that point... Grog Machines yes, decent medicine no
    JedExodus wrote: »
    Hey it's plot critical stuff man. If they married in some Voodoo ceremony that bound them together and that was why the strain lives on, i'd be happy with that for a reason....i'd be happy with any reason really, its only Monkey Island. but with deeper plots like this we need the rationale behind it...or not and i'm looking into this WAY too much. :p



    LOL yeah I know I'm not saying you shouldn't debate it I'm just saying its funny that we are....

    I often try to imagine my father at my age now (29) and wonder if he ever found himself talking about Voodoo soaking sponges, and viruses that only target pirates.
  • PlaneforgerPlaneforger
    edited November 2009
    JedExodus wrote: »
    What about this
    Threepwood strain of the pox Elaine supposedly has, marriage doesn't make your DNA composition change to that of your spouse, and unless the pox can be contracted that way (which we know hasn't happened) there's no reason Elaine would have this particular strain of the pox as all pox that every pirate has came from Guybrush originally

    She had that
    strain of the pox because she was the next closest person to LeChuck when he exploded in Chapter 1. I don't think she got it from Guybrush, but rather from LeChuck himself.
  • JedExodusJedExodus
    edited November 2009
    @ Doggans, Irishmile & Planeforger

    Proximity theory works for me, i'm a happy bunny
    Irishmile wrote:
    I often try to imagine my father at my age now (29) and wonder if he ever found himself talking about Voodoo soaking sponges, and viruses that only target pirates.

    It's truly a glorious age we live in :p, culture's just more diverse these days. Whereas in my fathers day they would've talked about Dr Who or the latest showband from a nearby village we talk about games and an unknown music act across the world that somebody got us into and we grabbed a few MP3's of. I personally love it because now our tastes and horizons can truly be unique

    ...hang on a second

    LOL WUT! I HOPE LARGO'S IN THE NEXT EPISODE!!!!!
  • Griswald GoodsoupGriswald Goodsoup
    edited November 2009
    KevinSig wrote: »
    8. If Guybrush
    is dead, how will he get revived (if he will get revived of course)?

    I suspect that
    Guybrush's poxed hand will get reattached & bring him back to life.

    Kevin

    If this is true and does become a part of Chapter 5, then that must surely be a reference to Dr Who, anybody?
  • OzzieMonkeyOzzieMonkey
    edited November 2009
    JedExodus wrote: »
    What about this
    Threepwood strain of the pox Elaine supposedly has, marriage doesn't make your DNA composition change to that of your spouse, and unless the pox can be contracted that way (which we know hasn't happened) there's no reason Elaine would have this particular strain of the pox as all pox that every pirate has came from Guybrush originally

    I think what the marquis meant was that elaine had the same amount, if not more of exposure to the pox as guybrush.
  • CoppoCoppo
    edited November 2009
    Friar wrote: »
    I Heard somewhere, that chapter 5 will take place in the pirate underworld, the land of the dead. This would provide a link to Monkey Island, given that there is a portal to Hell there.
    I like this idea. Not only would we continue playing as Guybrush from the get-go this way, but this could mean Episode 5's recurring character could be Bob, the undead first mate with the loose head from SOMI that was left behind when everyone else went to the wedding.
  • OzzieMonkeyOzzieMonkey
    edited November 2009
    Coppo wrote: »
    I like this idea. Not only would we continue playing as Guybrush from the get-go this way, but this could mean Episode 5's recurring character could be Bob, the undead first mate with the loose head from SOMI that was left behind when everyone else went to the wedding.

    I'd like to see Largo come back from the land of the dead to help lechuck to be honest. And maybe Guybrush will meet Wally to help him, so there may be a fight scene between Wally and Largo.
  • feverfewfeverfew
    edited November 2009
    I am currently intrigued by this ominous chanting by Voodoo Lady you hear when talking to D'oro by the creepy shack remains. Was he... hypnotised?
  • GuruGuru214GuruGuru214
    edited November 2009
    Friar wrote: »
    I Heard somewhere, that chapter 5 will take place in the pirate underworld, the land of the dead. This would provide a link to Monkey Island, given that there is a portal to Hell there.
    Land of the Undead
    , actually. Here's a couple scans of an interview with Dave Grossman I've been posting all over the place (contains several chapter 5 spoilers):

    http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y99/GuruGuru214/NP-Monkey-1-1.jpg
    http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y99/GuruGuru214/NP-Monkey-2-1.jpg
    Irishmile wrote: »
    Also since it is a Virus and LeChuck carries it he would also be the key for a vaccination although I doubt they would have the science to do so at that point... Grog Machines yes, decent medicine no

    I don't think it's supposed to be an actual virus so much as just bits of evil voodoo floating around, though if it is a virus, it's probably some sort of funky voodoo virus that normal virus rules don't apply to.
  • HaydenHayden
    edited November 2009
    Novotnus wrote: »
    Well, that makes my Morgan-escape-in-the-rowboat theory false... but then again - who sunk it?

    Unless she used some paste and a plug made from rubber tree to patch up the hole in the rowboat.
  • HaydenHayden
    edited November 2009
    GuruGuru214 wrote: »
    Land of the Undead
    , actually. Here's a couple scans of an interview with Dave Grossman I've been posting all over the place (contains several chapter 5 spoilers):

    http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y99/GuruGuru214/NP-Monkey-1-1.jpg
    http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y99/GuruGuru214/NP-Monkey-2-1.jpg


    How spoilery on a scale of 1-10?
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