He had been stuck on that island for 24 years, and then Guybrush started hitting him on the head with all kinds of crap. No wonder poor Herman started hallucinating.
He had been stuck on that island for 24 years, and then Guybrush started hitting him on the head with all kinds of crap. No wonder poor Herman started hallucinating.
Yeah, and Elaine was a poor girl who lost her grandfather a long time ago. It was natural for her hopes to cloud her eyes and make her believe that he was her grandfather.
Here is the ending if you really want to see just how horribly they ended it..... I guess they figured this was the quickest way to end the story because they probably thought it was their last chance at doing so.
Viewer beware Giant Monkey Kombat at the beginning followed by claims of kinship and Elaine speaking in a nasally east coast accent (she must have had a cold ) I do think that its unfair to judge the whole game on this though because the rest of the game was fun...
He had been stuck on that island for 24 years, and then Guybrush started hitting him on the head with all kinds of crap. No wonder poor Herman started hallucinating.
Yeah, and Elaine was a poor girl who lost her grandfather a long time ago. It was natural for her hopes to cloud her eyes and make her believe that he was her grandfather.
I'm not sure about you guys, but I'm now accepting this as fact.
Telltale has a lot of opportunities to shine with this episode. But I doubt they will bring anybody back. But wasn't Big Woop a portal to hell? Atleast we know how Monkey Island could be included in this game.
What if we meet the real Horatio Torquemada Marley and discover that Herman Toothrot usurped his identity to make sure that Guybrush wouldn't let him on Monkey Island again and take over the Tri-Island Area ?
What if you guys have it all wrong? Imagine there really was a Herman Toothrot who sailed to Monkey Island with his friend. He really did train a bunch of monkeys to crew his ship, but he actually sailed back with them. While he was passed out in the hold or something, the monkeys arrived at Melee Island and sold the ship to Stan. Herman woke up on the ship, alone, and snuck out of Stan's lot. Eventually, he met H.T. Marley in a bar (maybe the SCUMM bar?) and told him his story. After that, who knows? Maybe he died, maybe he simply faded into obscurity.
Whatever the case, when H.T. Marley was shipwrecked later on, he also washed up on the shores of Monkey Island. However, he suffered head trauma in the shipwreck and lost his own memory. Somehow able to recall Herman Toothrot's story, he saw the initials "H.T." and assumed that Toothrot's story was his own. Seeing that he was still on Monkey Island, he just figured that he hadn't gone with the monkeys after all. By the time Guybrush had inflicted further head trauma on him to restore his memory, he simply didn't regain the memory that Herman Toothrot was a real person and not an alternate identity he had made up.
Because really, is it any less likely that the HT we know is Horatio Torquemada thinking he's Herman Toothrot than it is Herman Toothrot thinking he's H.T. Marley? At least if it's Marley thinking he's Toothrot, it has a better explanation for why Elaine recognizes him, why he has the gubernatorial seal, why he knows about the Ultimate Insult, etc.
He had been stuck on that island for 24 years, and then Guybrush started hitting him on the head with all kinds of crap. No wonder poor Herman started hallucinating.
Yeah, and Elaine was a poor girl who lost her grandfather a long time ago. It was natural for her hopes to cloud her eyes and make her believe that he was her grandfather.
Of course! And who could forget that scene in the third game where Guybrush gets concussion after being punched in the face by Elaine, only to have a very trippy dream about LeChuck building a theme park! Bloody hell, that bloke's mind is crazy.
Because really, is it any less likely that the HT we know is Horatio Torquemada thinking he's Herman Toothrot than it is Herman Toothrot thinking he's H.T. Marley? At least if it's Marley thinking he's Toothrot, it has a better explanation for why Elaine recognizes him, why he has the gubernatorial seal, why he knows about the Ultimate Insult, etc.
MI1/2's Herman is far too awesome to be Elaine's grandad. And the Captain Marley in MI2's backstory is far too awesome to be Herman Toothrot. It's like they're two awesome characters whose awesomeness is cancelled out by the other's awesomeness when they become the same character, resulting in a large vaccum of suck. It's this that bothers me, not the plotholes.
I assumed Herman Toothrot washed up on the island but died along with his crew mate. Then Horatio Marley got washed up on this island with no memory, found Toothrots diary and due to his confused state he thought he WAS Toothrot. Power of suggestion is so powerful.
As a kid I always assumed this was the case, it seemed obvious too me.
That's the thing. Stan is a constantly returning character, and Telltale didn't break that pattern. Murray has done the same thing three games in a row as well now. But Herman has been in some way in every Monkey Island game so far (excluding CMI, where there's only a mechanic puppet of him). I would like to see him again, so I keep trying to think of situations where he could be included without seeming like a window-shelf piece of junk.
Including his crewmate from before SMI could work; it's kind of close to how CMI pulled his cameo off.
I assumed Herman Toothrot washed up on the island but died along with his crew mate. Then Horatio Marley got washed up on this island with no memory, found Toothrots diary and due to his confused state he thought he WAS Toothrot. Power of suggestion is so powerful.
As a kid I always assumed this was the case, it seemed obvious too me.
I had considered something like that as well. I don't remember why I went with the more complicated theory.
We'll certainly see Morgan in the land of the dead. I like the idea of Murray avec flesh but Telltale would have to be very brave to do something like that. Maybe we'll see the body of the skeleton from DeSinge's lab?
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Yeah, and Elaine was a poor girl who lost her grandfather a long time ago. It was natural for her hopes to cloud her eyes and make her believe that he was her grandfather.
What in the?
Yes. Herman Toothrot CLAIMS to be Elaines GP. After GT pummels him with misc. though.
Viewer beware Giant Monkey Kombat at the beginning followed by claims of kinship and Elaine speaking in a nasally east coast accent (she must have had a cold
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbDhmCnsG5Q
-eh...
I can't think of anything clever.
How about the stump from MI1? Is he in hell?
I'm not sure about you guys, but I'm now accepting this as fact.
The pyrite parrot of Petaluma will surely be down there somewhere.
JoJo SR.
Telltale has a lot of opportunities to shine with this episode. But I doubt they will bring anybody back. But wasn't Big Woop a portal to hell? Atleast we know how Monkey Island could be included in this game.
It is a fact!
Did I mention Dinghy Dog should come back?
O, gee, o golly goo yes!
He's dead, correct?
Whatever the case, when H.T. Marley was shipwrecked later on, he also washed up on the shores of Monkey Island. However, he suffered head trauma in the shipwreck and lost his own memory. Somehow able to recall Herman Toothrot's story, he saw the initials "H.T." and assumed that Toothrot's story was his own. Seeing that he was still on Monkey Island, he just figured that he hadn't gone with the monkeys after all. By the time Guybrush had inflicted further head trauma on him to restore his memory, he simply didn't regain the memory that Herman Toothrot was a real person and not an alternate identity he had made up.
Because really, is it any less likely that the HT we know is Horatio Torquemada thinking he's Herman Toothrot than it is Herman Toothrot thinking he's H.T. Marley? At least if it's Marley thinking he's Toothrot, it has a better explanation for why Elaine recognizes him, why he has the gubernatorial seal, why he knows about the Ultimate Insult, etc.
Of course! And who could forget that scene in the third game where Guybrush gets concussion after being punched in the face by Elaine, only to have a very trippy dream about LeChuck building a theme park! Bloody hell, that bloke's mind is crazy.
MI1/2's Herman is far too awesome to be Elaine's grandad. And the Captain Marley in MI2's backstory is far too awesome to be Herman Toothrot. It's like they're two awesome characters whose awesomeness is cancelled out by the other's awesomeness when they become the same character, resulting in a large vaccum of suck. It's this that bothers me, not the plotholes.
As a kid I always assumed this was the case, it seemed obvious too me.
Including his crewmate from before SMI could work; it's kind of close to how CMI pulled his cameo off.
I had considered something like that as well. I don't remember why I went with the more complicated theory.
I have to agree.