I hope not, to be honest. Waiting so long for this one is partly what made it so special, having more right away would definitely diminish it.
Man, I could not disagree with you more. Waiting so long was agony. I don't bash my head against the wall because it feels so good when I stop.
Give me a new episode every month forever. (More frequently is ok too )
I tried Sam & Max season 1 between TMI episodes, but it just doesn't do it for me. Never finished the first episode. Finished every TMI episode within 2 days.
Give me more TMI. I won't be buying any more Sam & Max.
I certainly hope Telltale will make more MI games eventually, but I am also enjoying the discussions and theories in the forums here, so I can wait. I'm hoping for either late this year or sometime in 2011.
I forgot about the On Stranger Tides POTC movie... if it's as big a success as the first three movies, another Monkey Island game would be a smart move from Telltale. Everyone's Pirate fetish will be freshly resurfaced and the game would sell like hot cakes (made of unicorn blood).
Also, on the subject of Star Wars games, the Old Republic MMO is going to be coming out in 2011, and hopefully 2011 will be the year of the Star Wars live action TV series, which they're going to capitalize on with some games... I don't see this as necessarily a bad thing though. The only reason it was bad that they released loads of Star Wars games back in the day was because they chose them over adventure games (because they couldn't afford to develop everything at once). The Star Wars games themselves were all brilliant. Now we've got Telltale developing adventure games, I don't see why more Star Wars games is a bad thing, especially an Old Republic one
Ugg... Starwars games are like cockroaches. Nobody wants them and they'll still be reproducing long after the last human has died.
I agree with the last part entirely. However I enjoyed the starwars games for SNES (the original trilogy) but since then... I own 1 starwars game "The Force Unleashed" and havnt played it since I gotit like 2 weeks ago..
Think about it this way. We may not have any new Threepwood stories, but POTC is making a 4th movie for 2010, so maybe that can keep some of us die-hard pirate fans busy until they can churn out another MI.
Are there many die-hard pirate fans? I mean I'm a huge MI fan and love the piratey atmosphere but have little to no interest in other pirate franchises.
Are there many die-hard pirate fans? I mean I'm a huge MI fan and love the piratey atmosphere but have little to no interest in other pirate franchises.
Yes. I'm one of them. People who hate POTC for MI's sake are ridiculous.
I agree with the last part entirely. However I enjoyed the starwars games for SNES (the original trilogy) but since then... I own 1 starwars game "The Force Unleashed" and havnt played it since I gotit like 2 weeks ago..
...I've been playing Spyro instead...
Oh man, you couldn't be more wrong about people not wanting Star Wars games. Have you never played Kotor or any of the Jedi Knight games? What about X Wing Alliance (etc.) or the slightly lesser Starfighter or Battlefront? I recently played through the force unleashed too. It was pretty good - nothing special, but very far from being bad.
As I said before, the production of billions of star wars games poses no threat to the adventure game side of things if Lucasarts are willing to let other companies develop them. With the success of Tales and the new president's enthusiasm, they're sure to dole out some other IPs or accept new ones in the future too.
Are there many die-hard pirate fans? I mean I'm a huge MI fan and love the piratey atmosphere but have little to no interest in other pirate franchises.
Pirates of the Caribbean does nothing for me after the first film. I *LOVED* Curse of the Black Pearl, but the series feels like it got cocky and shoved up its own ass by the second film. Popularity or something, I guess.
Of course, if you want a REALLY good pirate film, Errol Flynn is the way to go.
Lucas Arts will be aware of the commercial success of ToMI, and it seems likely given the economy that they will capitalize on the opportunity. What else are they going to make in 2010? Another starwars game???
Do you mean The Old Republic? Or, perhaps, The Force Unleashed 2?
Or, hey, it's not like they have OTHER adventure franchises to work with, right? It's not like they developed something extremely successful that rhymes with Schmaniac Schmansion.
Or, wild guess, something NEW?
Also, look at the URL. Notice that "LucasArts" is not there at all, because LucasArts didn't make Tales. They COULD internally develop a sequel to Tales, and they COULD outsource it to a different set of developers, but I just don't see it happening.
Pirates of the Caribbean does nothing for me after the first film. I *LOVED* Curse of the Black Pearl, but the series feels like it got cocky and shoved up its own ass by the second film. Popularity or something, I guess.
I agree, the first movie was delightful to watch. The second and third movie feel as if they weren't even trying to be interesting. The numerous recycled jokes were painful to watch too. Also, I can't decide if the girls screaming about Jack Sparrow at the theater were worse than the girls screaming about Edward Cullen during Twilight's showing. (I was dragged to see it against my will, I swear!)
I agree, the first movie was delightful to watch. The second and third movie feel as if they weren't even trying to be interesting. The numerous recycled jokes were painful to watch too. Also, I can't decide if the girls screaming about Jack Sparrow at the theater were worse than the girls screaming about Edward Cullen during Twilight's showing. (I was dragged to see it against my will, I swear!)
Also agree.
The second movie should have been set many years after the first. That way it wouldn't have spoiled the series even if it had been horrible.
I don't get why people hate the second and third movies so much. The third one's not great, but in my opinion, the second is the strongest in the series. Sure, it's really different, and more gritty than charming, unlike the first, but where would we be if everything tried its hardest to stay true to its predecessors? I'll tell you where. Escape from Monkey Island. That's where.
Seriously though, I think that the second movie was brilliant, despite its darkness compared to the first.
I was never aware that people hated POTC for MI's sake. I knew they were supposed to like, inspire each other... but that was it.
And there's NO WAY Jack Sparrow fans are worse than Edward Cullen fans. I've had my eyes metaphorically scratched out by many an Edward worshipper when I even mention that the only character half worth reading the books for is Jacob. Sparrow fans usually shrug and say "Meh... more piratey lusciousness for me!"
Like with the Matrix, POTC has a very nice first movie, also an (IMO) nice second movie, and a somewhat dissapointing third movie.
Yeah, I agree with this. Although I recently re-watched the Matrix films, and the third wasn't as bad as I remembered it to be. Hopefully I will feel the same when I watch the third POTC film in five years or so, although I couldn't even be bothered to buy the DVD, whereas I do own the first two on DVD.
Do you mean The Old Republic? Or, perhaps, The Force Unleashed 2?
Force Unleashed 2 is either about to be released or was just released (as "force Unleased Sith edition") I only know this because when I bought "The Force Unleashed" the guy @ gamestop asked me which one I wanted.
Or, hey, it's not like they have OTHER adventure franchises to work with, right? It's not like they developed something extremely successful that rhymes with Schmaniac Schmansion.
They have abandoned all their franches to work on StarWars. This is why TTG has picked up 2 (so far) of the old series. I wouldnt be suprised if TTG collects atleast 5 more........
Yeah, I agree with this. Although I recently re-watched the Matrix films, and the third wasn't as bad as I remembered it to be. Hopefully I will feel the same when I watch the third POTC film in five years or so, although I couldn't even be bothered to buy the DVD, whereas I do own the first two on DVD.
The second and third matrix films were good in their own right; I think that what pisses people off so much is that the first film was so great on its own, and it kind of cheapened by sequels. It's kind of a film adaptation of Plato's cave, and as such it's focused on perception of reality, uncertainty, dreaming and so on. The second two movies focused more on the characters, the war between the robots and the humans, Zion, etc., which, to someone familiar with the original Cave story, seems to detract from the point a lot.
Force Unleashed 2 is either about to be released or was just released (as "force Unleased Sith edition") I only know this because when I bought "The Force Unleashed" the guy @ gamestop asked me which one I wanted.
That's just a special edition, like the Monkey Island one NOT being MI5/6 .
And yeah, I agree with you there are plenty of old LA adventures TTG could work with. Grim Fandango, Day of the Tentacle, Indiana Jones, Full Throttle...
As much as I'd love to see a new game, Full Throttle really should be left alone, Roy Conrad is dead so essentially the main character is also dead, replacing the voice actor with someone else just wouldn't feel right. Also if anyone had to do it, it has to be Tim Schafer, after all it was his game!
Man, I could not disagree with you more. Waiting so long was agony. I don't bash my head against the wall because it feels so good when I stop.
Give me a new episode every month forever. (More frequently is ok too )
I tried Sam & Max season 1 between TMI episodes, but it just doesn't do it for me. Never finished the first episode. Finished every TMI episode within 2 days.
Give me more TMI. I won't be buying any more Sam & Max.
lol I couln't agree with you more about everything you said.
Give me a new one every week until the end of the world!
I finished S&M s1 and didn't really get in to it either, that guy must like to suffer he's probably a masochist or something
I say they should go for it. Tales was a definite success, plus they opened up the possibilities for another adventure without even changing much of the characters or the gaming style. It was the best you could do to tie loose ends left by Escape, and they really did it.
However, I wouldn't press TTG right now. I think they did a great job and should lay down for a while, maybe a year or so. There must a reasonable delay marketing-wise between games so that everyone could enjoy, before skipping to the next title.
But I do hope there would be another title, and perhaps they could make it even longer - 6 or even 7 episodes would be great, seeing as unlike Sam&Max, this game is a following continuity you never get tired of.
As much as I'd love to see a new game, Full Throttle really should be left alone, Roy Conrad is dead so essentially the main character is also dead, replacing the voice actor with someone else just wouldn't feel right. Also if anyone had to do it, it has to be Tim Schafer, after all it was his game!
Dude! I didn't know Ben's voice died. RIP.
I know in Space Quest 4 and 6 they had different voices for Roger, and neither of them did a bad job.
I was fine with tales except the ending, I thought it could have been better and less rushed. The last puzzle made no sense how Elaine would know that sort of thing would happen in ch2 unless she's psychic or has been to the afterlife.
I don't expect anything MI related to be released in 2010. Maybe next year, it just seems too soon. Besides they're doing season 3 of sam and max and that seems like plenty.
But I do hope there would be another title, and perhaps they could make it even longer - 6 or even 7 episodes would be great, seeing as unlike Sam&Max, this game is a following continuity you never get tired of.
The only thing I agree with you is that I want another title too.
Apart from that, i just couldnt disagree with you more. I mean 7 episodes!? WHY?? What for???
I want one full game and so does the majority. But you want one story to be shattered into 7 short pieces. That would be almost a crime! It would take the atmosphere away, destroy the continuity of the story and make it more linear. ( There just cant be freedom nor many places to explore if one episode is 1/7 of a game.)
That would also mean at least 7 months ( probably more ) of waiting time. It would almost take 3/4 of a year to finish one game. Thats just too long. Thats not right. People would be pumped to play another MI game at first but such a long waiting time would be torture and will eventually kill the interest likely before the game is even released completely.
7 Episodes would be unpractical. What if you would like to play the game as a whole when you finally get it. You would have to quit and start the game over NUMEROUS times.
No, no more episodic Monkey Island. One long full game. Thank you.
No, no more episodic Monkey Island. One long full game. Thank you.
Believe me, if you spent more time on the forums during the the season, you would like the episodic thing a whole lot more. I wasn't initially too fond of the idea of receiving my MI game bit-by-bit over 5 months. But when I started frequenting the forums and being a part of the online MI community, I saw all of the speculation, theories, excitement, fanart, etc. that the period between episodes had cause/inspired, and it's something that you just don't get from a whole, non-episodic game. By the end of December, I was completely sold on episodic gaming.
(Yes I know that it doesnt show the exact same thing, but that there are still more lovers of a full game than an episodic game.)
And actually the results your poll shows are :
Full game: 23+30+53 = 106 ( I mean Ron Gilbert had not intended to and will not make his MI 3 or 6 whatever, episodic, thats almost 100% sure. So those 53 votes count as a full game.)
Episodic: 85+1 = 86
106/192 = 0,55
So yeah, my example shows the majority rooting for a full game to be about 77%, yours shows it to be 55%.
(Yes I know that it doesnt show the exact same thing, but that there are still more lovers of a full game than an episodic game.)
And actually the results your poll shows are :
Full game: 23+30+53 = 106 ( I mean Ron Gilbert had not intended to and will not make his MI 3 or 6 whatever, episodic, thats almost 100% sure. So those 53 votes count as a full game.)
Episodic: 85+1 = 86
106/192 = 0,55
So yeah, my example shows the majority rooting for a full game to be about 77%, yours shows it to be 55%.
Epic win for me.
Ron Gilbert's Monkey Island 3 is a completly different cathegory that is irrelevant to whether or not people feel Monkey Island 6 should be done episodically or in one game. So it's 53 votes for full game, 86 for episodic. 38% for a full game.
And the poll you provided is not about the release of the game, but about whether the episodes should be edited together into one big game in the DVD release. Which, IMO, they should.
Ron Gilbert's Monkey Island 3 is a completly different cathegory that is irrelevant to whether or not people feel Monkey Island 6 should be done episodically or in one game.
How is it suddenly irrelevant and a different category?? A new Monkey Island game is a new Monkey Island game. Period. It will be the 6th game of the series, no matter who is planning to make it. If Ron Gilbert will make it, Im sure that you also know that then those votes count as a full game.
Well, the poll you provided is not totally accurate either. Its about WHO should make the game, not alone about HOW the game should be released.
How is it suddenly irrelevant and a different category?? A new Monkey Island game is a new Monkey Island game. Period. It will be the 6th game of the series, no matter who is planning to make it. If Ron Gilbert will make it, Im sure that you also know that then those votes count as a full game.
Well, the poll you provided is not totally accurate either. Its about WHO should make the game, not alone about HOW the game should be released.
I'll give you that it's not entirely accurate. So let's start a good poll about it.
Ok, so maybe 7 episodes IS a little too much. Even 6 is. But I think 5 is just perfect. If, for some reason, they go out of ideas for the next one, I think they could do a jam-packed 4 episodes one, instead of 5, but really packed with stuff.
And btw, a little hint: make the episodes harder, that would give more time to play and less waiting for another one to come out. They you could push the date back to, let's say, one every 5-6 weeks instead of one monthly. Or even bi-monthly, if you're really good at that.
A full game is an option only for those who wish to wait until 2012. Do you? I myself wouldn't mind if I knew the team could do better if they're given full time, thou I don't think that's the case. I think there will just be more slacking if they were to do that.
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Man, I could not disagree with you more. Waiting so long was agony. I don't bash my head against the wall because it feels so good when I stop.
Give me a new episode every month forever. (More frequently is ok too
I tried Sam & Max season 1 between TMI episodes, but it just doesn't do it for me. Never finished the first episode. Finished every TMI episode within 2 days.
Give me more TMI. I won't be buying any more Sam & Max.
Ugg... Starwars games are like cockroaches. Nobody wants them and they'll still be reproducing long after the last human has died.
Also, on the subject of Star Wars games, the Old Republic MMO is going to be coming out in 2011, and hopefully 2011 will be the year of the Star Wars live action TV series, which they're going to capitalize on with some games... I don't see this as necessarily a bad thing though. The only reason it was bad that they released loads of Star Wars games back in the day was because they chose them over adventure games (because they couldn't afford to develop everything at once). The Star Wars games themselves were all brilliant. Now we've got Telltale developing adventure games, I don't see why more Star Wars games is a bad thing, especially an Old Republic one
I agree with the last part entirely. However I enjoyed the starwars games for SNES (the original trilogy) but since then... I own 1 starwars game "The Force Unleashed" and havnt played it since I gotit like 2 weeks ago..
...I've been playing Spyro instead...
Hehe.
Are there many die-hard pirate fans? I mean I'm a huge MI fan and love the piratey atmosphere but have little to no interest in other pirate franchises.
Yes. I'm one of them. People who hate POTC for MI's sake are ridiculous.
As I said before, the production of billions of star wars games poses no threat to the adventure game side of things if Lucasarts are willing to let other companies develop them. With the success of Tales and the new president's enthusiasm, they're sure to dole out some other IPs or accept new ones in the future too.
Of course, if you want a REALLY good pirate film, Errol Flynn is the way to go.
Do you mean The Old Republic? Or, perhaps, The Force Unleashed 2?
Or, hey, it's not like they have OTHER adventure franchises to work with, right? It's not like they developed something extremely successful that rhymes with Schmaniac Schmansion.
Or, wild guess, something NEW?
Also, look at the URL. Notice that "LucasArts" is not there at all, because LucasArts didn't make Tales. They COULD internally develop a sequel to Tales, and they COULD outsource it to a different set of developers, but I just don't see it happening.
I agree, the first movie was delightful to watch. The second and third movie feel as if they weren't even trying to be interesting. The numerous recycled jokes were painful to watch too. Also, I can't decide if the girls screaming about Jack Sparrow at the theater were worse than the girls screaming about Edward Cullen during Twilight's showing. (I was dragged to see it against my will, I swear!)
Also agree.
The second movie should have been set many years after the first. That way it wouldn't have spoiled the series even if it had been horrible.
Seriously though, I think that the second movie was brilliant, despite its darkness compared to the first.
Like with the Matrix, POTC has a very nice first movie, also an (IMO) nice second movie, and a somewhat dissapointing third movie.
And there's NO WAY Jack Sparrow fans are worse than Edward Cullen fans. I've had my eyes metaphorically scratched out by many an Edward worshipper when I even mention that the only character half worth reading the books for is Jacob. Sparrow fans usually shrug and say "Meh... more piratey lusciousness for me!"
Force Unleashed 2 is either about to be released or was just released (as "force Unleased Sith edition") I only know this because when I bought "The Force Unleashed" the guy @ gamestop asked me which one I wanted.
They have abandoned all their franches to work on StarWars. This is why TTG has picked up 2 (so far) of the old series. I wouldnt be suprised if TTG collects atleast 5 more........
I agree. Pirates of the Caribbean is awesome.
Ontopic: I think 2010 is a bit too optimistic, but I wouldn't be surprised if Monkey Island 6 came out in 2011.
The second and third matrix films were good in their own right; I think that what pisses people off so much is that the first film was so great on its own, and it kind of cheapened by sequels. It's kind of a film adaptation of Plato's cave, and as such it's focused on perception of reality, uncertainty, dreaming and so on. The second two movies focused more on the characters, the war between the robots and the humans, Zion, etc., which, to someone familiar with the original Cave story, seems to detract from the point a lot.
And yeah, I agree with you there are plenty of old LA adventures TTG could work with. Grim Fandango, Day of the Tentacle, Indiana Jones, Full Throttle...
lol I couln't agree with you more about everything you said.
Give me a new one every week until the end of the world!
I finished S&M s1 and didn't really get in to it either, that guy must like to suffer he's probably a masochist or something
However, I wouldn't press TTG right now. I think they did a great job and should lay down for a while, maybe a year or so. There must a reasonable delay marketing-wise between games so that everyone could enjoy, before skipping to the next title.
But I do hope there would be another title, and perhaps they could make it even longer - 6 or even 7 episodes would be great, seeing as unlike Sam&Max, this game is a following continuity you never get tired of.
Dude! I didn't know Ben's voice died. RIP.
I know in Space Quest 4 and 6 they had different voices for Roger, and neither of them did a bad job.
I was fine with tales except the ending, I thought it could have been better and less rushed. The last puzzle made no sense how Elaine would know that sort of thing would happen in ch2 unless she's psychic or has been to the afterlife.
I don't expect anything MI related to be released in 2010. Maybe next year, it just seems too soon. Besides they're doing season 3 of sam and max and that seems like plenty.
The only thing I agree with you is that I want another title too.
Apart from that, i just couldnt disagree with you more. I mean 7 episodes!? WHY?? What for???
I want one full game and so does the majority. But you want one story to be shattered into 7 short pieces. That would be almost a crime! It would take the atmosphere away, destroy the continuity of the story and make it more linear. ( There just cant be freedom nor many places to explore if one episode is 1/7 of a game.)
That would also mean at least 7 months ( probably more ) of waiting time. It would almost take 3/4 of a year to finish one game. Thats just too long. Thats not right. People would be pumped to play another MI game at first but such a long waiting time would be torture and will eventually kill the interest likely before the game is even released completely.
7 Episodes would be unpractical. What if you would like to play the game as a whole when you finally get it. You would have to quit and start the game over NUMEROUS times.
No, no more episodic Monkey Island. One long full game. Thank you.
No, they don't: http://www.telltalegames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14700
Believe me, if you spent more time on the forums during the the season, you would like the episodic thing a whole lot more. I wasn't initially too fond of the idea of receiving my MI game bit-by-bit over 5 months. But when I started frequenting the forums and being a part of the online MI community, I saw all of the speculation, theories, excitement, fanart, etc. that the period between episodes had cause/inspired, and it's something that you just don't get from a whole, non-episodic game. By the end of December, I was completely sold on episodic gaming.
Yes they do. http://www.telltalegames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14313
(Yes I know that it doesnt show the exact same thing, but that there are still more lovers of a full game than an episodic game.)
And actually the results your poll shows are :
Full game: 23+30+53 = 106 ( I mean Ron Gilbert had not intended to and will not make his MI 3 or 6 whatever, episodic, thats almost 100% sure. So those 53 votes count as a full game.)
Episodic: 85+1 = 86
106/192 = 0,55
So yeah, my example shows the majority rooting for a full game to be about 77%, yours shows it to be 55%.
Epic win for me.
Ron Gilbert's Monkey Island 3 is a completly different cathegory that is irrelevant to whether or not people feel Monkey Island 6 should be done episodically or in one game. So it's 53 votes for full game, 86 for episodic. 38% for a full game.
And the poll you provided is not about the release of the game, but about whether the episodes should be edited together into one big game in the DVD release. Which, IMO, they should.
How is it suddenly irrelevant and a different category?? A new Monkey Island game is a new Monkey Island game. Period. It will be the 6th game of the series, no matter who is planning to make it. If Ron Gilbert will make it, Im sure that you also know that then those votes count as a full game.
Well, the poll you provided is not totally accurate either. Its about WHO should make the game, not alone about HOW the game should be released.
I'll give you that it's not entirely accurate. So let's start a good poll about it.
And btw, a little hint: make the episodes harder, that would give more time to play and less waiting for another one to come out. They you could push the date back to, let's say, one every 5-6 weeks instead of one monthly. Or even bi-monthly, if you're really good at that.
A full game is an option only for those who wish to wait until 2012. Do you? I myself wouldn't mind if I knew the team could do better if they're given full time, thou I don't think that's the case. I think there will just be more slacking if they were to do that.