Is it just me or is this game so awesome that it even makes the 4th one look better
I enjoyed TOMI, it was very good. I've been looking towards it about as long as I have KOTCS. 
It was a good game, though having played it, it makes the 4th game seem even better some how. Maybe it's just me, I'm wondering if you feel the same, do you?
Feel the same do you, yesss?
When I'm playing the 4th, or rather thinking about it in my mind, the CGI and game play controls seem to be more acceptable on account of TOMI. When I think about EMI I think about the game that came before TOMI. Story elements aside, the game seems to level out nicely one place behind TOMI on the MI time line.
The 3d graphics are perfected from EMI and so are the controls in TOMI.
EMI strangely seems to get better with age next to TOMI.
Any one else feel the same way?
It was a good game, though having played it, it makes the 4th game seem even better some how. Maybe it's just me, I'm wondering if you feel the same, do you?
Feel the same do you, yesss?
When I'm playing the 4th, or rather thinking about it in my mind, the CGI and game play controls seem to be more acceptable on account of TOMI. When I think about EMI I think about the game that came before TOMI. Story elements aside, the game seems to level out nicely one place behind TOMI on the MI time line.
The 3d graphics are perfected from EMI and so are the controls in TOMI.
EMI strangely seems to get better with age next to TOMI.
Any one else feel the same way?
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I haven't played Escape for a while, so I'll see if TMI makes it look better when I play it next, which will be soon since I just finished Curse, then I'm playing Escape, then TMI when the DVD arrives, then SMI:SE and then MI2: Special Edition!
Not my favorite one but its not bad
I think you're right on the money with this. I remember one of the game's developers (can't recall who) saying in an interview that they felt pressured into making EMI 3D because so many other new games were at the time, and not because it was the best thing for the game itself. Back then, the technology just didn't exist yet to make a 3D game as sophisticated as TOMI.
That wasn't the only problem I had with EMI, but it definitely didn't help matters either.
Second. I actually love the fourth game even though it's my least favorite of the entire series. People hate the fourth game because it has almost become an ongoing joke that it is absolutely terrible, when it's actually not.
You do know that the right click while clicking and dragging is run dont you?
Still, Tales is the best in that line, and if we keep going in this direction I think I can accept them as unfortunate blips in history, like that first Incredible Hulk film that made no impact on anything.
In fact if you think of it, there hasnt been a machine introduced or any advance equipment of technological than the giant monkey that clearly seems out of place in the time it takes part Monkey Island.
COMI only problem was the ending, but for me it managed to be one of the best!
But any extreme hatred toward Escape is a little overly dramatic. All series have episodes that are not the best representation of them, but fans kind of just brush them off as the black sheep, as in many television or film series as well.
Playing Tales has made me want to go back and play Escape again. Just because I want to look for ways to tie the story together for me.
This.
Although I did also hate that they destroyed the iconic Giant Monkey Head in a way that made no sense, and they anticlimactically never explained what happened to LeChuck. ...Yet, the fact that ToMI is out does help me feel alot better since the series didn't end with EMI. I think EMI fits better as the black sheep when it's a middle chapter, especially with how ToMI avoided becoming a direct sequel to it.
Are you channeling both Yoda and Slythe?
Wha...? The 1977 TV movie spawned a second movie and a 5-season TV series. It impacted a lot, including Lou Ferrigno's frequent appearances at comic book shows.
Yes. I'm getting quite sick of the 'Escape is bad'/'Escape was good, but it's the worst of all the Monkey Island games'/'I didn't like 3D'/'I didn't like the controls'/'Monkey Kombat was a disaster'/'Escape ruined _____'/'Escape was okay'/'Escape eats babies'/'Blah, blah, blah Escape blah, blah, blah compared to others blah, blah, blah' conversation.
The first two games are the original Star Wars trilogy. Old classics, it is usually considered a crime not to like them, plus they get a SE-touch up which not all tend to like.
The second two games are like the prequel Star Wars trilogy. Things have changed both stylistically and atmospherically, and are met with quite a criticism. Even if objectivelly speaking it's quite on par with the originals, it is considered a crime to like them (all or some of them).
ToMI is like the new Clone Wars TV series. Something that takes both from the old and new, and is generally liked by the fans of the original classics.
yeah, it's really getting in the mood when ur char uncontrollably runs into things, have no facial expressions and on top of that add the clunky 3d tech back then and u have legs in boxes, half sticking out, half heads thru walls etc. its bad.
Yes. I am so glad Escape is no longer the last game in the series.
I felt like I had pretty good control of Guybrush in EMI. And even when I did run into things, it didn't cause too much trouble.
It's one of the VERY FEW adventures I didn't bother finishing, which is saying much.
The only ones I can pretty much count with that are Broken Sword: Angel of Death (even worse controlling) and Ankh 2 (due to a very not-nice game breaking bug).
Although I did manage to finish the game, it took some effort on my part and I never replayed it again. Until I heard about it on these very forums, I had no clue it had been terribly received by people other than me. I was very happy not to be the only one.
I commented, only to be faced with things like "you only dislike it because it's cool to do so" or "you would have loved it if it had stood on its own, therefore you love it", "well what exactly did you dislike? If you can't name it then you liked it".
I can assure you that the only reason I made sure to finish it was because it was a Monkey Island game. I wouldn't have done so otherwise, because I greatly disliked it. And I had no idea it was "cool" to dislike that game.
And I can't name specific things I disliked because I played it once and never looked at it again, and I don't really remember anything about it apart from what I've read around here.
I don't hate it with a passion, but I didn't like it at all, and I don't see why I'm not allowed to dislike it just because it's part of a series I otherwise mostly like.
I still have to get back to Broken Sword 3. I beat the first two in little time. Great games. The third one is something to do but when school started back up I just lost interest playing the game in my free time.
Good adventure games are played in free time.
I want to go back to Still Life, got to beat that game so that I can get the second one.
Anyways, I have lots of adventure games, I never beat Simon 3D yet either, I know the graphics aren't the greatest but the game itself is ok. If you can work past the graphics and get into the game....
LOL I'm babbling. Thank you for giving me this opportunity to babble, I guess I found what you said interesting.
Well, unless it's a game without a clear goal anyway (like the Sims)
He didn't say "no one really dislike the game, it's just trendy to hate it." I support Escape and I really liked it; however, I realize that some people do dislike it, just like Rather who hates Curse. But it seems that people who thought Escape was ok or maybe were just kind of indifferent about it give it a snide comment here or there just to tear it down because it's cool.
And Avistew, I'm not saying that it is impossible to dislike the game, I'm just saying that a lot of people who don't have a strong opinion either way tend to go to the hate side because everyone on here hates it so it must be cool to hate it. People who have legitimate reasons for disliking it don't bother me, but it's people who are like "LOL ECSAPE IS TEH WROST LULULUL!" that really annoy me.
Even an oldschool like JazzJack Rabbit 3 (that was cancelled) was trying to go 3d, might still be videos of it on youtube, and i mean it looked horrible. Jazzjack rabbit was the super mario of the PC imo, and 2d is part of what made that game great.
ToMI is like the new Clone Wars show in the way that it just kind of killed it for me. (Hate the Clone Wars show, dont really care for ToMI.)
No offense (really), but this is one of the worst analogies I can think of for this series
There's just no relationship between them for me, let alone that they all have very very different feels, stylistically.
EMI is nowhere near bad enough to be compared to the prequels. And I dislike EMI.
ToMI is dramatically better than Clone Wars (which for me is on the "meh" scale, like a typical Star Wars novel).
Oh the Sims!
My sister bought this, I succumbed to the hype eons ago.
But after you built your dream (creatively limited) house, built your (limited) career, and birthed a few kids with the mailwoman there wasn't much else to do!
Well...
Beyond inviting your family/friends/neighbours around, trapping them in doorless rooms and killing them in various manners. And using there urns to establish the neighbourhood cemetery...
At least that's all I found the game good for
On topic: I thought EMI was great!
I didn't have a problem with the HT Marley/Herman Toothrot segue.
My only qualms were with the stupid Monkey Kombat, which I still haven't beaten. I've tried meticulously writing all the commands down and there corresponding responses but still got nowhere. Then I downloaded a nice neat table (made by LA I think) which attempted to show how to move through Monkey Kombat, but this still failed me.
As for the Monkey Head debacle I am shocked, but having never got past the Monkey Kombat I was kind of indifferent to what happened afterwards.
Nonetheless I still liked the game, even if it was over zealous to follow other games into the dark realm of 3D. It was ambitious and stupid, but made up for that with a fairly good story and beautiful locations. And it was particularly funny.
I'm just happy TOMI has done justice to Monkey Island as a series. And didn't stuff up Murray! Apparently the Escape staff couldn't walk down the hall to the Grim guys and get some pointers on 3-dimensional skulls.