Art Direction
Okay, I think this deserves its own thread:
What kind of general art direction do you wan the game to take? What is your favorite game in terms of in-game art?
I personally would love something that looks similar to the AGD Interactive and Infamous Adventures remakes of the first few King's Quest games:
A lush, "painted" look with a vibrant, storybook color palette. I think looking at the game should give a similar impression as looking at the box art for previous games, I-V specifically. I think a storybook color palette(erring on the side of "earthy" tones) is really important, and I would love to get the impression that the world exists on a storybook page, possibly with a perspective to cement that(with a camera similar to that in the earlier King's Quest games for atmosphere purposes). I don't think King's Quest is a franchise whose roots are in cinema, unlike Police Quest which draws from police dramas and Space Quest which draws from science fiction "Flash Gordon"-type influences, so a "cinematic" approach to the camera would seem wrong, like an "adaptation" of a fairytale on screen being adapted into a game, rather than adapting the fairytale itself in game form.
What kind of general art direction do you wan the game to take? What is your favorite game in terms of in-game art?
I personally would love something that looks similar to the AGD Interactive and Infamous Adventures remakes of the first few King's Quest games:
A lush, "painted" look with a vibrant, storybook color palette. I think looking at the game should give a similar impression as looking at the box art for previous games, I-V specifically. I think a storybook color palette(erring on the side of "earthy" tones) is really important, and I would love to get the impression that the world exists on a storybook page, possibly with a perspective to cement that(with a camera similar to that in the earlier King's Quest games for atmosphere purposes). I don't think King's Quest is a franchise whose roots are in cinema, unlike Police Quest which draws from police dramas and Space Quest which draws from science fiction "Flash Gordon"-type influences, so a "cinematic" approach to the camera would seem wrong, like an "adaptation" of a fairytale on screen being adapted into a game, rather than adapting the fairytale itself in game form.
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Anyway, a storybook feel is essential, but I'm not quite sure how that would be pulled off in the Telltale Tool. Maybe if whatever technique it was that made SBCG4AP look like a Brothers Chaps cartoon can make KQ look like a painting...
But yes, in short: LUSH landscapes, please!
TSL did something like this, but not with hand-painted layered backgrounds.
Their deadlines and file sizes have noticeably compromised their games on occasion.
Give me something like this.
Can't say I like Magicka though, especially since it has an isometric perspective. I mean, there's no sky at all! King's Quest NEEDS SKIES!
Awesome. This would be perfect.
Background is too much like Kincaid's work. Which I REALLY don't like. Is this just me?
You mean Thomas Kinkade? He's my favorite painter of all time. Not a surprise you'd hate him then, but his style would be my first pick as an inspiration for painting a new KQ game.
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Ha! Haha! Haha! What a kidder, you!
This is a great scene. There is something magical to me about the places he paints.
I love his wintry scenes the best, especially his nighttime ones, as they radiate friendliness and warmth. They kind of remind me of the sort of painting you would see on Coca-Cola advertisements during Christmas, which I also love. I just get a good feeling from looking at his art. I love cottages, cabins, and woods.
The only thing about Kinkade I don't like is that it feels like he's made himself into a brand somewhat.
Out of curiosity, what do you dislike about it?
Other than the fact that he's a complete marketing whore, he really doesn't have a good understanding of light and composition, two elements that are pretty darn crucial if you want to be a painter! Every cottage he paints has an unearthly glow, no matter what time of day it is. Using that picture you posted, notice how inconsistent the direction of light is half the time. For example, that tree on the far left should be covered more in shadow from where we're looking at it, and the cottage is too far away to have a reflection in the stream. As for composition, Kinkade has a tendency to cram as much stuff as possible into his paintings without considering how to lead the viewer's eyes around it. Now the painting you posted is less terrible in this regard, but then there's stuff like this:
...which is just uggghh. Honestly, he isn't the worst painter ever, I just think there are far better painters who do/did the same kind of stuff but more competently. Here are some examples:
I've always had the impression that this is a stylistic and symbolic thing of some sort with him. I personally like it because it evokes atmosphere, and one that I really like. I don't believe his paintings are meant to evoke any sort of realism, whereas I get an impression of realism from the ones you posted, except for the Swing, which is also as far from Kinkade's style as possible. I have a feeling you have a wide knowledge of this field though.
I will admit that the painting you posted is terrible, and one I've never seen before. I'm having trouble believing it's a real painting, especially as some of the deer don't fit at all, however these are the sort of paintings I like from the man-
-nothing like what you posted. Now that you've pointed out some flaws in his paintings, I admit I'll probably be looking for flaws more now, as I never considered it before, but unless someone can find me a painter with an extremely similar style who has a better mastery over it, I don't think I'll move on from liking it. I'm definitely not against liking a flawed artist. Personally, if I could gain a greater mastery over his style than he has, I would. I'd love to be able to paint scenes with that sort of glow and atmosphere to perfection.
But its not like I'm an art snob... one of my favorite painters is Todd Lockwood... I tend to like fantasy art... I like it... Even if its not what is considered "serious" art... do not get me wrong.. I like things that make you think or make you a little uncomfortable... stuff like francis bacon did... who WAS a serious artist
I like how you automatically assume I wouldn't like that piece. You're really shitty when it comes to figuring people out, Tope. Try harder or quit trying. Here's a hint: quick judgments are bad. No one is as simple as you make them out to be.
Two of my favorite artists of all time: Gustave Dore and Edward Gorey. As far from Kinkade in tone as possible. Oops. Oh shit, bet you didn't expect those two names from a little' ol Kinkade fan.
Whoa there, calm down. Tope actually suggested that I edit my post to include that piece, but I said it was too dark in comparison to Kinkade and not what you were looking for, so if there's anyone you should be yelling at, it's me. Either way, don't be assuming that she's trying to antagonize you, because trust me, she's not. >8(
By the way, I didn't reply back because I kinda realized that there are very few artists who do that cottage-y thing that Kinkade does, and while I could post paintings with candy-coated color schemes and bright lighting that I like, it still wouldn't be the same subject matter. I just don't really like his stuff, and the reason I thought you were trolling earlier is that Kinkade's pretty unpopular among artists, both high-brow and low-brow. It's just unusual is all.
You thought I was trolling? You know, it's times like that that make me want to stop screwing around on these forums. I won't, but the comparison to real trolling does give me the incentive. I also kind of wanted to quit replying because I didn't want every other post in this topic to be mine, but I did kind of have to set Tope's assumption right. I never knew Kinkade was unpopular.
Erm..
I wasn't expecting you to not like it, I was just posting it as an example similar to what you described liking.
You say quick judgments are bad, and yet you judged me as to think that I think of others simply. I really don't, nor was my post even attacking you. In fact I was trying to extend an olive branch, but if you don't want it, then fine.
Yes, Kinkade is unpopular. Saying you like Thomas Kinkade is like an aspiring singer saying he likes Justin Bieber. Does it really matter? No, but making a statement like that will raise eyebrows no matter what.
You're right that I judged you, but it was no quick judgment. It's one I've developed over time. And again, I didn't say you were attacking me. Your whole post reeks of more extreme assumptions. I feel I've caused this topic to go in a very silly direction. Despite that, I obviously misinterpreted your original post, so I apologize. Forget it.
I'll have to read more of that link, but I would definitely love to be able to "paint circles around this guy". Maybe I should go to Art Center.
can we talk about art with dragons in it now