Episode 4 is dark
Anyone else think this episode was pretty dark?
Trixie didn't deserve what happened to her, and the episode focuses on destroying Edna's life. The argument at the end at the courthouse was dark, too. Apart from the bit with Jennifer at the beginning, this was a disturbing episode! It was well done, but I'm glad that it sets up the final episode with the idea that maybe there's a better solution.
Trixie didn't deserve what happened to her, and the episode focuses on destroying Edna's life. The argument at the end at the courthouse was dark, too. Apart from the bit with Jennifer at the beginning, this was a disturbing episode! It was well done, but I'm glad that it sets up the final episode with the idea that maybe there's a better solution.
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But yes overall this episode was definitely darker in its own way, and I was seriously afraid that
I like games that have emotive resonance - there aren't many out there.
Did anyone else get the image of FCB opening the Delorean and Billy Ocean's "Get out of my Dreams (and into my car)" blasting away ( yeah, I know it was released 1988 but still
It was 1931: When doors were unlocked and strangers had the best candy!
Seconded.
And I never thought I could feel sorry for Edna, but seeing her crying in the end did just that.
Sometimes, we cannot choose the way we are going...
Both futures she ended up as a person no one likes.
In one she is a crazy cat lady, and another she is a dictator.
What makes people think that she can turn out ok in some form or way.
She has been given two timelines, and she screwed up both(yes its her fault, one she decided to be alone and bought cats, and the other she abused her husbands genius to dictate a city) most people only get 1 timeline.
Marty wants what he feels is the 'Right' timeline but has had to toy with people and manipulate them in order to set things back in motion, he doesn't like doing it and most times particularly when speaking to Young Emmett he really hates doing it. But if he doesn't he dooms everyone he cares for to be brainwashed by the citizen plus program or because of the undoing of everything in 1955 Marty's parents are reduced to their coward/drunkard personalities and Biff is still roaming round being a dick to everyone. He's also abandoned his parents and Jennifer when going back to 1931 based on the trust of FCB that all would be undone once they went back.
FCB on the other hand also genuinely feels his existence should still count, after all hes lived 70+ years with someone he loved, despite the disaster it caused in the future he can hardly be blamed for wanting to hold on to it or change it for the better despite its flaws. From his perspective 'Martin' is just as bad as Edna, wanting to 'Override' his personality for his own gain. Also he cares more for the fate of Edna, which he now learnt from Marty lives an extremely lonely life, and doesn't see why someone should be doomed to misery if it can be helped. Not to mention his alternative self lived a similar, isolated life until Marty befriends him and timetravels and meets Clara.
Could go one but, yeah - great work storywise on this one Telltale, just get rid of that damn 'Temporal Duplicate' bug by the car of the futures tent
I do think Doc was something of a loner, until he ended up in the Old West. I don't really subscribe to the theory, though, that everyone in Hill Valley thinks he's crazy. Yes, Mr. Strickland and Biff both spoke badly about him - but, then again, they're also not exactly portrayed as being the nicest and most tolerant people in the world. You wouldn't expect people like them to be accepting of Doc. It's likely that Marty was his only close friend, but there were other people that were friendly acquaintances to him.
Unfortunately, Edna did so, with Marty's help.
At the same time, seeing Edna lose Emmet and cry in front of FCB was heart-wrenching too. Edna was already annoying in 1931, but she had some redeeming qualities, and seeing her tumble into life of despair and loneliness really bites.
Taking all that, this episode was one of the most depressing ones I've ever had from TTG. People keep being horrible, one to another, and they can't really stop it. I just hope Edna gets a chance at decent life, but somewhere the worse parts of her personality won't surface.
no doc said the edna is older then him. she is in her early twenties
Very hooked to see how it will end though.
An alternate -- and arguably darker -- interpretation is that Emmet's belief (stated in the preview for episode 5) that Edna's tyranny was a consequence of his affinity for science, and that bettering her requires a change in his behaviour rather than her own, is consistent with the attitude of many abused spouses.
Remember at one point in the movies Doc Brown stated he should have never created a time machine and that it should be destroyed. He even asked Marty to destroy the Delorean when he went back to 1985.
I don't see this as a huge twist on his personality. He always had doubts about the misuse of his inventions.
Especially ones that are inherently dangerous, such as the time machine.
Thats still the case in canada in 2011
FCB was in love with her, and probably was reminded of why he fell in love with her in the first place. The bad thing is that Marty couldn't offer an alternative to FCB, he just out-refused to see things from his point of view. FCB and young Emmet share the same thing about Marty: everything seemed to be going okay until HE showed up.
The problem is FCB is completely dominated by Edna. Letting them pair up was COMPLETELY out of the question. Marty could have looked for an alternative for Edna, perhaps looking for a partner for her, a partner who wasn't Doc Brown.
If I were in his shoes, I would lie my ass off to FCB just to keep him happy. I would have agreed with his plan to stay with Edna but in reality still trying to get her to dump him and steer young Emmett towards his original timeline.
Since Marty did save young Emmett's life - all does seem to be forgiven, for now. Plus, Emmett probably realizes that Marty did do some good in his life - such as getting him to stand up to his father.
I can see where, on the surface, it does look like Marty was being selfish. In the end, though, I think he was just trying to get the timeline back on track.
p.s i hate this timeline
If you were in the same position, I'm thinking you'd be a bit more focused on not screwing Hill Valley's future at the moment. It's not as if they had oodles of free time.
"Free time"? They've got all the time they want! They have a TIME MACHINE!!
Because you can't help them all. Marty's priorty is getting Hill Valley as back-to-normal as he can. Getting old Doc back first!!
BUT IT'S BROKEN! And let's just ignore the fact that point-and-click games have no time limit!
So there really isn't a lot of free time travel permitted, at least not until the next chapter which should be interesting.
In regards to this chapter being dark... I sorta like the approach, I mean, I DO want good ol' Doc back and Marty maintaing his cheerful demeanor but it's a cool scenario the characters are in now. I like that we get to see the point of view of someone who is not from the original timeline and their dilemma conflicting with what we as the players know is right (FCB wanting to still be with Edna vs Marty's timeline with Doc married to Clara) and I like to see how the character, primarily Marty, handle it. So yeah, it does come off as selfish the way Marty handles things, as someone pointed out that Marty has practically ruined both Young!Emmett and FCB, but at the end, he only wants to set things right for everyone, which may or may not include Edna (but we'll see by Ep.5) and after the argument he had with FCB, there was a look of guilt on his face when he continued on with the plan of splitting Emmett and Edna, almost knowingly that he's being a jerk.
Okay, I'm done ranting.