Lee's family (SPOILERS)

edited July 2012 in The Walking Dead
Hi guys, just played through the episodes cant wait till ep.3 :D

(SPOILER ALERT) Just wondering i know you see your brother as a zombie and proceed to hack his brains out but what happens to Lee's mum and dad?

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Clem ftw! :)

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  • edited July 2012
    Lily said they found older couple dead in office when they first got to drug store and took them outside just to be safe in case they turned.
  • edited July 2012
    Lilly said that an older couple was found in the pharmacy and that Larry removed them in case they weren’t really dead, so Lee’s parents, like his brother Bud, are dead.
  • edited July 2012
    They're dead. If you engage in conversation with Lilly in the drug store, you can find out Lee's parents had recently died in the office part of the drug store and Larry dragged their bodies out into the back alley in case they were going to reanimate.
  • edited July 2012
    oh ok thanks for the info starting to hate Larry even more :(
  • edited July 2012
    Josh marsh wrote: »
    oh ok thanks for the info starting to hate Larry even more :(

    You would do the same thing in his situation.
    Everyone is infected, the bite doesn't make you turn it just kills you.
    That means the bodies have a very high chance of turning.
    Would you really take the risk of having some in there with you?
  • edited July 2012
    KDStudios wrote: »
    You would do the same thing in his situation.
    Everyone is infected, the bite doesn't make you turn it just kills you.
    That means the bodies have a very high chance of turning.
    Would you really take the risk of having some in there with you?

    I just realized... Why would they check the office but not the bathroom? Just think if they were really that concerned (and heck, someone has to use the restroom eventually, no?) why would they not check to only other obvious room?
  • edited July 2012
    phoray wrote: »
    I just realized... Why would they check the office but not the bathroom? Just think if they were really that concerned (and heck, someone has to use the restroom eventually, no?) why would they not check to only other obvious room?

    Hey, man. Shut up! Take your logic elsewhere, it's the apocalypse.
  • edited July 2012
    Hey, man. Shut up! Take your logic elsewhere, it's the apocalypse.

    Hahahaha... This woman likes her logic. You can easily look through the grate of the pharmacy to check that room. For some reason, the office was unlocked despite all the other obvious barricades. Lee's parents even put a heavy desk in front of a locked pharmacy door that an axe can't get through, but the door leading to the store from the office gets to remain unlocked?

    And then the bathroom is locked and they say, what... That's all good, we don't need to check that room.
  • edited July 2012
    phoray wrote: »
    I just realized... Why would they check the office but not the bathroom? Just think if they were really that concerned (and heck, someone has to use the restroom eventually, no?) why would they not check to only other obvious room?
    They forgot to check the bathroom.

    I don’t know how long Carley, Doug, Larry, Lilly, and Glenn were in the pharmacy.

    They were probably more focused on disposing visible bodies and barricading the place than checking the bathroom. If they were in the pharmacy for a short time, they may not have had enough time to check the bathroom. If they were in the pharmacy for a long time, they may have overlooked the bathroom. People make mistakes, especially when scared and pressed for time.

    Carley has been criticized for not knowing the radio needed batteries and then improperly inserting the batteries, but I have seen little criticism of Carley, Doug, Larry, Lilly, and Glenn for not checking the bathroom.

    Five people should be able to thoroughly check a small pharmacy, but instead of them being collectively criticized on this forum, I have only seen Carley criticized. As I said, people make mistakes, especially when scared and pressed for time.
  • edited July 2012
    I honestly didn't find her not checking for batteries to be that indicative of her inteliigence. She even mocks herself right after for missing that obvious thing to check. When she said she didn't know what to look for, that's when I was like... whaaa?

    But that mistake isn't even important. No one checked ALL the rooms. Gathering supplies is a duh, but it's not till I show up that I start scrounging for food. And frankly, despite Doug, Carley, Glenn and such all being part of the Larry group prior to my arrival, no one seemed to give a rat's butt about Larry's pills but me. Even Kenny, who hates the guy, mentions his bad state but everyone else is sucked into their own thoughts such as "broken" radios, a courtyard of zombies that can't get you.... sort of. judging that only a shelf was covering an apparently broken window to the left of the main door... How did anyone think they were safe just cuz the official door was locked?

    BUT. Back to the original discussion. I always get the feeling that the lady with the screw driver in her shoulder (you see her as soon as the alarm goes off) is Lee's mom. I think she looks the right body type/age/color ish. Thinking on it more, she seems farther away than "tossing bodies out the door" distance. Considering that we see all the space in the front, does this mean they tossed the bodies out the back? Are we stepping over them to get to the hotel, and later to escape?
  • edited July 2012
    phoray wrote: »
    Considering that we see all the space in the front, does this mean they tossed the bodies out the back? Are we stepping over them to get to the hotel, and later to escape?

    Or, oh my gosh, are they what the zombies are snacking on in the first initial scene before the Kenny group are ushered into the store?
  • edited July 2012
    phoray wrote: »
    I just realized... Why would they check the office but not the bathroom? Just think if they were really that concerned (and heck, someone has to use the restroom eventually, no?) why would they not check to only other obvious room?

    Undead-induced stupidity. It's the same reason a horde of slow-moving Zombies are able to win a set-piece battle against a military equipped with things like armor and artillery in World War Z (god that was poorly thought out and written).
  • edited July 2012
    Rommel49 wrote: »
    Undead-induced stupidity. It's the same reason a horde of slow-moving Zombies are able to win a set-piece battle against a military equipped with things like armor and artillery in World War Z (god that was poorly thought out and written).

    I read that. I thought they had covered and said that our armies didn't get the whole "head shot is the only thing that works" concept. Threw a bunch of shrapnel and fire at the oncoming horde, and then we mostly lost to the psychological panic that caused when our standbys didn't stop them. There was suicide occurring on the front line the minute it didn't work.
  • edited July 2012
    phoray wrote: »
    And frankly, despite Doug, Carley, Glenn and such all being part of the Larry group prior to my arrival, no one seemed to give a rat's butt about Larry's pills but me.
    He didn’t need them until he collapsed.
    phoray wrote: »
    everyone else is sucked into their own thoughts such as "broken" radios, a courtyard of zombies that can't get you.... sort of.
    Fixing the radio was a good idea. The pharmacy had an old newspaper. The TV at Clementine’s house didn’t broadcast anything. The radio gave the survivors some information which is better than none.

    The pharmacy was not fully secure which is why having Doug as a lookout was a good idea.

    Glenn went to siphon gas which was a smart.

    Lilly cared about her father so she wasn’t going anywhere.

    Kenny could have done more. Clementine helped Lee more than Kenny until the end of the episode when Kenny saved Lee.
    phoray wrote: »
    judging that only a shelf was covering an apparently broken window to the left of the main door... How did anyone think they were safe just cuz the official door was locked?
    The pharmacy was likely the least bad option.
    phoray wrote: »
    I always get the feeling that the lady with the screw driver in her shoulder (you see her as soon as the alarm goes off) is Lee's mom. I think she looks the right body type/age/color ish.
    Hard to tell for me.
    phoray wrote: »
    Or, oh my gosh, are they what the zombies are snacking on in the first initial scene before the Kenny group are ushered into the store?
    That is good guess. I didn’t think of that.
  • edited July 2012
    He didn’t need them until he collapsed..

    I get that, I remember. Glenn did go off to siphon gas, but that left Carly staring at a radio she really 100% thought was broken. Ok, Doug was playing look out, and Kenny claimed fatigue (despite just standing there and not actually getting any rest.) I find it odd that Lilly thought the best thing for her father was sitting there useless rather than looking for pills with me. It just seemed that other than Lilly, Clem, and I, everyone ignored the sick man. They really didn't seem to have him on their mind at all.
    Fixing the radio was a good idea. The pharmacy had an old newspaper. The TV at Clementine’s house didn’t broadcast anything. The radio gave the survivors some information which is better than none. .

    Except she wasn't trying to fix it at all. It was just an object to focus on while off in her own world thinking. That, however, is good reasoning for Lee to pick up the cause. Although, judging from how GEE GOLLY positively gung ho about helping the St. John's, maybe helping is innate to his character.
  • edited July 2012
    phoray wrote: »
    I read that. I thought they had covered and said that our armies didn't get the whole "head shot is the only thing that works" concept. Threw a bunch of shrapnel and fire at the oncoming horde, and then we mostly lost to the psychological panic that caused when our standbys didn't stop them. There was suicide occurring on the front line the minute it didn't work.

    Except the attempts to cover it don't make sense, headshot or no, nobody's moving much if you fill with them with enough holes: it doesn't matter if you feel pain or not, shatter a femur or spine for example, they're not walking anymore since the structure can no longer bear weight. Then there's the notion that exploding cars are more damaging than heavy artillery, etc. Hell, even expending all of your ammunition wouldn't be the end of the game, since you can just crush them under the treads of tanks - between a 60 - 70 ton rolling, armored block and a zombie or even a bunch of zombies, I'm not betting on the zombie. :p

    And the whole mess in that scenario started because they failed to properly search and clear the houses in the neighborhood. But I digress, point is, with zombie fiction, sometimes you just have to turn your brain off.
  • edited July 2012
    phoray wrote: »
    I just realized... Why would they check the office but not the bathroom? Just think if they were really that concerned (and heck, someone has to use the restroom eventually, no?) why would they not check to only other obvious room?

    They haven't checked the bathroom because it was locked. First Clem says that it is locked and Lee tells her to look for keys behind the counter because he knows where his parents kept keys ^^ this leads to a shot which almost killed whole group.
  • JakeJake Telltale Alumni
    edited July 2012
    phoray wrote: »
    I just realized... Why would they check the office but not the bathroom? Just think if they were really that concerned (and heck, someone has to use the restroom eventually, no?) why would they not check to only other obvious room?

    Maybe they came in through the office? PS: Shh!
    magzhi wrote: »
    They haven't checked the bathroom because it was locked. First Clem says that it is locked and Lee tells her to look for keys behind the counter because he knows where his parents kept keys ^^ this leads to a shot which almost killed whole group.
    Oh yeah I mean this. This is the real reason. Canon established. ¬ ¬
  • edited July 2012
    Jake wrote: »
    Maybe they came in through the office? PS: Shh!


    Oh yeah I mean this. This is the real reason. Canon established. ¬ ¬

    What business doesn't keep the keys to their locked bathroom behind the counter?

    They were looking for keys to the pharmacy before you go there. (Implied by Lily's lines during Larry's little attack.)

    They didn't look behind the counter for the keys to the pharmacy? That's pretty stupid of them. They would at least have found those keys and tried them out. They didn't find them at all, because they didn't look for keys, because their thought processes are illogical for various reasons.
  • edited July 2012
    Just a question: Whatever happened to Lee's ex-wife?
  • edited July 2012
    phoray wrote: »
    What business doesn't keep the keys to their locked bathroom behind the counter?

    They were looking for keys to the pharmacy before you go there. (Implied by Lily's lines during Larry's little attack.)

    They didn't look behind the counter for the keys to the pharmacy? That's pretty stupid of them. They would at least have found those keys and tried them out. They didn't find them at all, because they didn't look for keys, because their thought processes are illogical for various reasons.

    or maybe they found the keys tried them on pharmacy door and then put them back because they didn't fit.
    Zeruis wrote: »
    Just a question: Whatever happened to Lee's ex-wife?

    No one knows yet. Judging from the trailer of episode 3, we have a black woman who has a chance to be his wife, but probably not.
  • edited July 2012
    Considering that Lee killed a senator because of their affair and how rational Lee is, she might have been long dead.
  • edited July 2012
    Considering that Lee killed a senator because of their affair and how rational Lee is, she might have been long dead.

    Nah Lee could not kill his own wife. Even in one of the dialogues we can see that death of the senator was an accident.
  • edited July 2012
    magzhi wrote: »
    Nah Lee could not kill his own wife. Even in one of the dialogues we can see that death of the senator was an accident.

    That wasn't my assumption. If he had killed his wife, the people who know his crime would make mention of that. It's possible that the senator killed his wife to cover the affair though. It'd give Lee plenty of reason to snap.
  • edited July 2012
    Might be possible but highly unlikely. Lee also mentions that his wife is somewhere else in Hershel's farm so she was probably alive before zombie apocalypses.
  • edited July 2012
    magzhi wrote:
    They haven't checked the bathroom because it was locked.

    magzhi wrote: »
    or maybe they found the keys tried them on pharmacy door and then put them back because they didn't fit.

    That pokes a hole in your own response though. lol ^^
  • edited July 2012
    phoray wrote: »
    That pokes a hole in your own response though. lol ^^

    xd yeah lol haven't noticed that
    Well then they haven't searched behind the counter
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