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RUMOR: Nintendo is attemping to buy back Rare from Microsoft

LeplayaLeplaya
edited August 2012 in General Chat
http://www.zeldainformer.com/news/comments/rumor-nintendo-attempting-to-negotiate-its-way-into-ownership-of-banjo-and

Found this last night. I hope to god that this rumor is true. If it is, it wouldve took Nintendo 10 years to realize that Microsoft is messing up bigtime with Rare. So if Nintendo gets Rare back, it would be a freaking dream come true. :)

Comments

  • Darth MarsdenDarth Marsden
    edited July 2012
    YESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYES.

    That is all.
  • Secret FawfulSecret Fawful
    edited July 2012
    If this happens I'll break down in tears. That is all.
  • RibsRibs
    edited July 2012
    How horrible. Everything Rare has done since being acquired has been great.
  • MusicallyInspiredMusicallyInspired
    edited July 2012
    That doesn't mean anything. The people who made those great games in the Nintendo + Rare days don't work at Rare anymore.


    Oh yeah, that is all.
  • Darth MarsdenDarth Marsden
    edited July 2012
    Read the article. It says the main reason for this is so Nintendo can get the rights to Banjo-Kazooie.

    :D
  • FriarFriar
    edited July 2012
    Ribs wrote: »
    How horrible. Everything Rare has done since being acquired has been great.

    Yes, I thought they were being put to excellent use making mii/wii sports clones...

    I would love for this to happen so much. Even though almost all the staff left, it's the licenses that intrigue me. Specifically Banjo Kazooie. In Smash bros.
  • Rather DashingRather Dashing
    edited July 2012
    ...so I guess this is supposed to be exciting or something? The corporate entity that published the Rareware games and the corporate entity that once contained the people who worked on the Rareware titles may be financially reunited so the latter corporate entity can add a back-catalog of brands back into their ownership. This is exciting on a consumer level....how?
  • RetroVortexRetroVortex
    edited July 2012
    Well...

    I'd trust Nintendo with RARE IPs than I would with Microsoft... ¬_¬
  • DAISHIDAISHI
    edited July 2012
    They've been replaced with Retro.
  • Secret FawfulSecret Fawful
    edited July 2012
    I just want Nintendo to hand Banjo-Kazooie to Retro. A BK side-scroller could work really well.
  • GibbeynatorGibbeynator
    edited July 2012
    Who cares? As some people have pointed out in this thread already, anyone who worked at Rare that could make a decent game don't work there anymore. Does Rare even still make games?
  • Secret FawfulSecret Fawful
    edited July 2012
    The point isn't the acquisition of Rare, it's the acquisition of a property that can then be handed to a better company.
  • Comrade PantsComrade Pants
    edited July 2012
    I just want to see another good Perfect Dark. Is that so horrible to want?
  • DAISHIDAISHI
    edited July 2012
    Comrade Pants wrote: »
    I just want to see another good Perfect Dark. Is that so horrible to want?

    Suddenly interested in this again.
  • JedExodusJedExodus
    edited July 2012
    Ribs wrote: »
    How horrible. Everything Rare has done since being acquired has been great.

    You just say stuff to see how people'll react dontcha?
  • Darth MarsdenDarth Marsden
    edited July 2012
    Ribs isn't his actual name, y'know. It's an acronym for Reaction Inducing Bionic Sentience.
  • RibsRibs
    edited July 2012
    I do seriously think Rare's done nothing wrong since being acquired, though. Hope they stick with MS for the rest of the company's lifespan.
  • Secret FawfulSecret Fawful
    edited July 2012
    Darth Marsden wrote: »
    Ribs isn't his actual name, y'know. It's an acronym for Reaction Inducing Bionic Sentience.

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    I agree with Ribs, though, EXCEPT in terms of where Rare has gone since Nuts and Bolts.
  • JedExodusJedExodus
    edited July 2012
    Ribs wrote: »
    I do seriously think Rare's done nothing wrong since being acquired, though. Hope they stick with MS for the rest of the company's lifespan.

    I wouldn't say they've done anything "wrong" but they surely haven't done anything striking outside of Viva Pinata if you ask me.

    Microsoft generally stifles creativity, the riskiest first-party game they've thrown money into that I can think of is Alan Wake, and even then that's a pretty conservative game. The rest of the MS purse strings are invested in halo, Kinect and figuring out how to fit more adverts onto the Xbox dashboard.

    They're also intent on making Windows 8 the worst thing ever for PC users, but that's another discussion.
  • GaryCXJkGaryCXJk
    edited July 2012
    Ribs wrote: »
    I do seriously think Rare's done nothing wrong since being acquired, though. Hope they stick with MS for the rest of the company's lifespan.

    Not hard to do anything wrong if you don't even do anything at all.
  • Darth MarsdenDarth Marsden
    edited July 2012
    OK. Let's have a look at Rare's output since being acquired by Microsoft.

    Grabbed by the Ghoulies - Meh.
    Saber Wulf - Meh.
    Banjo Pilot - Not bad for a GBA game.
    It's Mr Pants - Actually pretty good!
    Conker: Live and Reloaded - Single player doesn't count due to being a remake, multiplayer sucked.
    Kameo: Elements of Power - Meh.
    Perfect Dark Zero - Meh single-player, broken multiplayer.
    Viva Piñata - Pretty good, actually.
    Diddy Kong Racing DS - Remake, all points invalidated.
    Viva Piñata: Trouble in Paradise - Still pretty good.
    Viva Piñata: Pocket Paradise - Not bad.
    Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts and Bolts - Aside from the fact IT'S NOT A BANJO-KAZOOIE GAME, it was OK.
    Kinect Sports - Wait, that was Rare? Ugh.

    OK, so they've not exactly become terrible, but they should be doing SO much better. It's hard not to be disappointed in them given where they came from and what they achieved.
  • Secret FawfulSecret Fawful
    edited July 2012
    Darth Marsden wrote: »
    Grabbed by the Ghoulies - Good.
    Saber Wulf - Meh.
    Banjo Pilot - Not bad for a GBA game.
    It's Mr Pants - Actually pretty good!
    Conker: Live and Reloaded - Fabulous.
    Kameo: Elements of Power - Fabulous.
    Perfect Dark Zero - Meh single-player, broken multiplayer.
    Viva Piñata - Pretty good, actually
    Viva Piñata: Trouble in Paradise - Still pretty good.
    Viva Piñata: Pocket Paradise - Not bad.
    Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts and Bolts - Fabulous.
    Kinect Sports - Wait, that was Rare? Ugh.

    My opinion within.
  • RetroVortexRetroVortex
    edited July 2012
    Darth Marsden wrote: »
    OK. Let's have a look at Rare's output since being acquired by Microsoft.

    Grabbed by the Ghoulies - Meh.
    Saber Wulf - Meh.
    Banjo Pilot - Not bad for a GBA game.
    It's Mr Pants - Actually pretty good!
    Conker: Live and Reloaded - Single player doesn't count due to being a remake, multiplayer sucked.
    Kameo: Elements of Power - Meh.
    Perfect Dark Zero - Meh single-player, broken multiplayer.
    Viva Piñata - Pretty good, actually.
    Diddy Kong Racing DS - Remake, all points invalidated.
    Viva Piñata: Trouble in Paradise - Still pretty good.
    Viva Piñata: Pocket Paradise - Not bad.
    Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts and Bolts - Aside from the fact IT'S NOT A BANJO-KAZOOIE GAME, it was OK.
    Kinect Sports - Wait, that was Rare? Ugh.

    OK, so they've not exactly become terrible, but they should be doing SO much better. It's hard not to be disappointed in them given where they came from and what they achieved.

    Pretty much got it in one.
    But I will say I liked Nuts and Bolts alot (played it all the way up to the final challenges, but I found them a bit too hard). I wish they had expanded upon that.
    (Like a DLC expansion, or a sequel)
  • GaryCXJkGaryCXJk
    edited July 2012
    I would have liked Nuts and Bolts...

    IF IT DIDN'T HAVE THESE RING-SHAPED SCRATCHES!!!

    Stupid second-hand junk bought on some yard sale during Queens Day.
  • Darth MarsdenDarth Marsden
    edited July 2012
    RetroVortex wrote: »
    But I will say I liked Nuts and Bolts alot (played it all the way up to the final challenges, but I found them a bit too hard). I wish they had expanded upon that.
    (Like a DLC expansion, or a sequel)
    Yeah, LOGs Lost Challenges wasn't exactly brilliant.
  • WoodsyblueWoodsyblue
    edited July 2012
    The only reason this could be a good move is for the IP. Rare have completely lost everything that made them what they were. Perfect Dark Zero and Banjo Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts weren't just disappointments, they are downright terrible. And I disagree that Nuts & Bolts is all right if you don't think of it as a Banjo game. It's an absolute mess. The story is atrocious, the driving is clunky and terrible, the car building is time-consuming and unforgiving, and it's hard to drive anywhere without getting completely overloaded with all kinds of needless crap on the screen.

    I would get behind a Retro-made Banjo Kazooie game, if it were true, but at this point it's just an unsubstantiated rumour. I mean the article suggests that Retro are deep into development on a BK game but Nintendo hasn't secured the rights for the IP yet? That doesn't make any lick of sense. If Microsoft were to back out all that development time would have been wasted. This all sounds like wishful thinking to me.
  • Comrade PantsComrade Pants
    edited July 2012
    Darth Marsden wrote: »
    OK. Let's have a look at Rare's output since being acquired by Microsoft.

    Grabbed by the Ghoulies - Meh.
    Saber Wulf - Meh.
    Banjo Pilot - Not bad for a GBA game.
    It's Mr Pants - Actually pretty good!
    Conker: Live and Reloaded - Single player doesn't count due to being a remake, multiplayer sucked.
    Kameo: Elements of Power - Meh.
    Perfect Dark Zero - Meh single-player, broken multiplayer.
    Viva Piñata - Pretty good, actually.
    Diddy Kong Racing DS - Remake, all points invalidated.
    Viva Piñata: Trouble in Paradise - Still pretty good.
    Viva Piñata: Pocket Paradise - Not bad.
    Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts and Bolts - Aside from the fact IT'S NOT A BANJO-KAZOOIE GAME, it was OK.
    Kinect Sports - Wait, that was Rare? Ugh.

    OK, so they've not exactly become terrible, but they should be doing SO much better. It's hard not to be disappointed in them given where they came from and what they achieved.

    This, combined with the fact that most of their real talent actually left BEFORE the Microsoft buyout - during the departure of Doak - leads me to believe that RARE was just on the way out anyway. The Stampers leaving was really just the epitaph of a long, drawn out decline.
  • Secret FawfulSecret Fawful
    edited July 2012
    Comrade Pants wrote: »
    This, combined with the fact that most of their real talent actually left BEFORE the Microsoft buyout - during the departure of Doak - leads me to believe that RARE was just on the way out anyway. The Stampers leaving was really just the epitaph of a long, drawn out decline.

    Oh shut up. Shut up. Just shut up.
  • Comrade PantsComrade Pants
    edited July 2012
    Secret Fawful wrote: »
    Oh shut up. Shut up. Just shut up.

    You know it to be true. Search your feelings.
  • WoodsyblueWoodsyblue
    edited July 2012
    For what it is worth, I completely agree with Comrade Pants.
  • MovieGuyMovieGuy
    edited July 2012
    Do this and give me a new conker's!
  • LeplayaLeplaya
    edited July 2012
    Alot of people I know are thinking that Retro is making a Banjo-kazooie game. Although, why not do a platformer? They haven't done platforms before have they?(I mean platforms like Super Mario 64). I even heard that Retro studios was working on something for the Wii U, and alot of people are thinking its a Banjo kazooie game.

    Speaking of which. Are there even workers from Rare working at that studio? If thats the case, they outta work on Conker 2.
  • JuntMonkeyJuntMonkey
    edited August 2012
    It is possible that if Nintendo can't acquire the IP they could just make this supposed BK game into a new IP platformer.
  • Ash735Ash735
    edited August 2012
    Rare should just throw it up in the air and go with Sony for a while, that way they can claim to have been Second Party to all! :p
  • Comrade PantsComrade Pants
    edited August 2012
    Ash735 wrote: »
    Rare should just throw it up in the air and go with Sony for a while, that way they can claim to have been Second Party to all! :p

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