Change a characters death, but unavoidably cause someone else to die.

edited November 2012 in The Walking Dead
Lets say that hypothetically that Telltale gives the choice after completing all the episodes to go back and change/stop a death but due to Newton's Third law; "For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction" someone else must replace that person death.

What this basically means is that if you save a person, someone who is in the same area must die to replace that persons death. So lets say you save Carley, as a result at random;
- Ben could be shot
- Lily could be stopped but shoots herself in the process
- Kenny could move in the way and get shot
- Duck or Katjaa could be hit by a stray bullet.

One of those 5 must die right there and then for saving Carley but you don't know who. For Larry either Kenny or Lily must die. etc etc.

You can expand your thinking on some situations so for the Doug/Carley scene you can save both but that would mean one of the people outside the Pharmacy would die by going the wrong way etc etc.

Note: Clem, Lee and Walking Dead tv stars will have plot shields meaning that they are unaffected by your choice and can not die.

So would you like to see something like this at the end? Whose death would you change? Or would you not change it because of the possible consequences?
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  • edited October 2012
    I would save Carley, and not fear the consequence:D! nobody was so important to me than her:)!
  • edited October 2012
    I wouldn't change a thing. I stand by my choices.

    It's a very nice idea though!
  • edited October 2012
    I don't know if we should affect the timeline like that. You're taliking about affecting the whole space-time continuum! Oh wait...I forgot...we're just not that important. Put me down for a save on Carley and a save on Duck. Thanks!
  • edited October 2012
    I don't know...some characters like Kenny are crucial to the story. Also at random? I don't like that idea.
  • edited October 2012
    OK, I'll go back to Episode 1 and save Carley at the drugstore. Saving her aaaaaand...crap, there goes Doug.
  • edited October 2012
    Save Doug, Kill Carley
  • edited October 2012
    I would save Carley, and not fear the consequence:D! nobody was so important to me than her:)!

    Following through a simple "if/then" formula, it stands to reason that Lee can only have one motivation/objective in this game, so "if" Carley were to live "then" Clementine would have to die.
  • edited October 2012
    what the hell does Newton's third law have to do with somebody dying in TWD? Nobody "HAS" to die. its just people die, thats life and life can be cruel
  • CapnJayCapnJay Banned
    edited October 2012
    Noone has plot shields.


    that being said. If you save Duck Kenny dies and your stuck raising both Clem and Duck
  • edited October 2012
    Save Mark! He truly seemed like a good friend, better then Kenny or Doug ever showed. Basically If I could have a group of anybody survive, It'd be Lee, Clem, Mark, Doug, Carley, and Omid.
  • edited October 2012
    No, then everyone would just save the person they favor, then reload until it's only Duck that dies. Then there'd be the "optimal" game where Lily and Carley survive at the expense of the loudmouth kid.

    I'd rather have no choice than be able to play god and min/max my experience. Where's the tragedy in an exploitable outcome?
  • edited October 2012
    I would of course save Carley, give Lilly a slap that she should calm down and well if Christa ever dies I would sacrifice the life from Lee. :D

    So the ending would be Charlie's Angels and his daughter ;) lol
  • edited October 2012
    so far it's bring carley back

    what a suprise.......
  • edited October 2012
    i would trade a carley, a doug and a ben for a duck, and also a lilly for a katjaa
  • edited October 2012
    if its a unavoidable death i'd just stick with who died first.
  • edited October 2012
    Carley lives.

    Ben grows a backbone for a half second and shoves her out of the way, only to take it in the back of the head.
  • edited October 2012
    For me I would save Carley and take either Lily or Ben down... Preferably Lilly, as only a coward would shoot somebody while their back is turned, but Ben would be a close second, as he caused the whole situation to begin with.
  • edited October 2012
    At the RV scene, I'd just walk up to Ben and tell him to leave, and if that doesn't satisfy Lilly, then Lilly can leave to. A potential problem here though is that Lilly is a comic character and has to leave our group at some point which narrows the possibilities, since I'm guessing that the game designers wanted her to leave with some drama.

    What I'd like more than anything else though is a way to save Mark, but I can't think of one. Maybe following Kenny's advice of going Rambo on the place will let you get to Mark's room before the St. Johns hack his legs off? Poor Mark.
  • edited October 2012
    Katjaa goes to commit suicide and a stray bullet shows up out of nowhere, killing Duck (or it has amazing aim and hits a random woodbury citizen/Lilly post-prison, that'd be good too).

    Problem solved!
  • edited October 2012
    So many people like Carley because she's got boobs. That's about the only reason folks. Damn intelligence, resourcefulness, usefulness, and common sense. Carley has boobs.
  • edited October 2012
    Demopan wrote: »
    So many people like Carley because she's got boobs. That's about the only reason folks. Damn intelligence, resourcefulness, usefulness, and common sense. Carley has boobs.

    So does Katjaa. I don't see suitors lined up around the block for her.
  • edited October 2012
    katjaa is taken duh...plus she kinda let her self go a bit
  • edited October 2012
    katjaa is taken duh...plus she kinda let her self go a bit

    How do you know she let herself go? Maybe Kenny likes women with a little meat on their bones.
  • edited October 2012
    DreadMagus wrote: »
    Carley lives.

    Ben grows a backbone for a half second and shoves her out of the way, only to take it in the back of the head.

    I could be cool with that.

    Honestly though, this is kind of a silly thread. It is hard to say I want any of the characters to die. I like just about all of them, in spite of their faults.
  • edited October 2012
    Demopan wrote: »
    So many people like Carley because she's got boobs. That's about the only reason folks. Damn intelligence, resourcefulness, usefulness, and common sense. Carley has boobs.

    That is quite an ignorant assumption. Christa, Lilly and Katjaa are women with breasts too and I still prefer Carley as a CHARACTER to them. Yes she is an attractive woman, but it is her positive character qualities I admire. You even listed several of those qualities and then decided to rule them out for no real reason. Sorry, but that does not help your case in any way.
  • edited October 2012
    instead of Lilly kill Carley, she realizes she no longer wants to live and kills herself with her gun, then the bullet through the head of Lilly and knocks on Ben´s head.: D: D
    Demopan wrote: »
    So many people like Carley because she's got boobs. That's about the only reason folks. Damn intelligence, resourcefulness, usefulness, and common sense. Carley has boobs.

    so who likes Lilly, Katja and Christa also think so?
    Think before you write something so ridiculous.
  • edited October 2012
    Kenny dies so Mark can live. I like Kenny but like Mark more, and using anyone else in the group seems like cheating cause we just met them.
  • edited October 2012
    Trade Katjaa for Larry. That way we could avoid many deaths. The only reason Duck got bit was because Katjaa didn't let him go with Clementine right away. She just held him there. And for the Carly and Doug, cause Lilly might have a reason to kill Carly for bad-blood, but she most likely won't because she still has her father. So in the end of it, the asshole is the one that keeps the group together.
  • edited October 2012
    Gijake1 wrote: »
    Trade Katjaa for Larry. That way we could avoid many deaths. The only reason Duck got bit was because Katjaa didn't let him go with Clementine right away. She just held him there. And for the Carly and Doug, cause Lilly might have a reason to kill Carly for bad-blood, but she most likely won't because she still has her father. So in the end of it, the asshole is the one that keeps the group together.

    Or instead of Lilly snapping it's Kenny :O
  • edited October 2012
    Yertos wrote: »
    Or instead of Lilly snapping it's Kenny :O

    Kenny would still have Duck, so I doubt he would in front of his son.
  • edited November 2012
    I would save Kenny at the cost of Lilly's life. Kenny can be a good friend and really kind to you if you are to him, but Lilly is too selfish and self-obssessed of her survival. If she wanted to stay with the gang, she should have thought about that before killing Carley! But yeah, that's what I would do.
  • edited November 2012
    Trade Omid and Christa for Ben and Kenny? D:
  • edited November 2012
    I'd probably trade Carley and Lily, and then Ben with Chuck. Without Ben taking his demise later, I'd be left with spillover that I'd probably have to put Kenny into (I think Kenny would be a fair choice, he doesn't get shown onscreen dying, so him dying later in my scenario would be a sure death as opposed to an unsure fate), though it'd be a tough choice.
  • edited November 2012
    Scenario I thought of:

    Carley: "You think you're some tough bitch, don't you? Like nothing can hurt you. But, you're just a scared little girl. Get the fuck over it. Take a page from Lee's book and try helping somebody for once."
    *Kenny deals with the walker, Lilly takes a few steps back*
    Kenny: "Now, what's the fuck the prob-"
    Lilly: "Everyone, back the fuck off!!"
    *Lilly has her gun drawn, pointing towards the group*
    Lilly: "Now I know one of you (Carley or Ben) betrayed us! We can't let someone who endangers our group left alive! Now, Lee tell me! Who did it!!"

    There you are given the option to chose who you think did it. You can either say it was Ben or Carley. Depending on your relationship with Lilly you can say it was yourself: if she likes you she'll say there was no way it was you, if she doesn't like you she'll shoot you in the chest. You'll live the shot but you'll need immediate help and nearly die. You may also try to talk her down: if she likes you you can make her stop, if she doesn't like you she wont stop.
  • edited November 2012
    Kill Clem's ass and keep Lee alive.

    Just kidding. I'd kill everyone to keep them both alive.
  • edited November 2012
    CarScar wrote: »
    Scenario I thought of:

    Carley: "You think you're some tough bitch, don't you? Like nothing can hurt you. But, you're just a scared little girl. Get the fuck over it. Take a page from Lee's book and try helping somebody for once."
    *Kenny deals with the walker, Lilly takes a few steps back*
    Kenny: "Now, what's the fuck the prob-"
    Lilly: "Everyone, back the fuck off!!"
    *Lilly has her gun drawn, pointing towards the group*
    Lilly: "Now I know one of you (Carley or Ben) betrayed us! We can't let someone who endangers our group left alive! Now, Lee tell me! Who did it!!"

    You can either say it was Ben or Carley.

    I can imagine this: You and 95% percent of players let Ben's limited brain be decorated across the RV :D

    Poor Ben might as well punch his own ticket before getting out of the RV...
  • edited November 2012
    FarmerJoe wrote: »
    I can imagine this: You and 95% percent of players let Ben's limited brain be decorated across the RV :D

    Poor Ben might as well punch his own ticket before getting out of the RV...

    95% is too high, there'd be probably 80% with the other 20% choosing Carley to get shot to see what happens. :D
  • edited November 2012
    As much as I hate it, I'm going to keep my friends Ben, Doug, and Kenny dead. Omid and Christa don't deserve to die, and Lilly was just in a really bad place as much as I hated her. Doug did the noble thing and sacrificed himself. Ben wanted to die, and Kenny's hope was gone.
  • edited November 2012
    Save Mark, Kill Vernon
  • edited November 2012
    Demopan wrote: »
    Save Mark, Kill Vernon

    I don't think that's exactly logical. It's saving somebody, but causing another to die in that exact same minute/hour or something. That's like saying you'd save Lincoln and get Al Capone killed.
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