About Ben...
How many of you let Ben die? I know the statistic is there but why would you kill him like that? Sure he makes mistakes thats only cause hes young and scared me being 17 I can relate to that. Hell I cant even fully relate to that because there is no real zombie apocalypse. But he only was slipping meds to the Bandits to try and HELP the group so the bandits would stop attacking in the first place he did not have bad intentions for doing so. I feel that he was a very sensible character who makes some mistakes but i really stuck up for him in this episode.
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1. I didn't actually think he could be saved. I thought he would be killed somehow, immediately after I pulled him up.
2. The walkers were practically to us. I didn't think there was even time to pull him up without putting myself and the rest of the group in severe danger.
3. He gave his consent. He faced his end bravely, and was willing to sacrifice himself so that everyone else could live.
After getting back to the house I almost rewound to try and save him because I felt so terrible. But that was on my canon save, where I stick with my choices no matter what.
Yes. All of this.
...there was a fourth factor me though, which makes me feel like a terrible person. I knew that Ben's death would have been the smoothest way to solve the Kenny/Ben conflict. The group was barely holding together at that point. I didn't think it could survive those two coexisting in the same space. I agree with all of the reasons listed above, but this fourth one is the dark secret and probably the most brutally intentioned thing I've done in this series. It'll probably follow me all the way through episode 5...
But in the end, though, my errors are my own. Ben's are his, and he finally found redemption for them in this episode. He died as someone I could finally respect...someone whose last moments were true, altruistic heroism.
then he went on about suicide talk, so I had to pull him up so I could beat the shit out of him and try to make him into a man (still not getting on that boat though)
Really? There's room for 5 people, and now that Lee is bitten, if the group saves Clem with no casualties everyone could get on.
hes still a danger to everyone else, he was on my arm, at that very moment, I pulled him up because it was the right thing to do, even if I am in danger
I wont let his philosophy of run away and let the little girl die take me as well
and by little girl i mean both Clem and Ben
Fair enough. He'll probably accidentally shoot a hole in the bottom of the boat and ask why it's suddenly filling up with water.
You tried that too?! That was actually my first instinct, because I remembered he would punch his own ticket if he ever got grabbed. I've become one stone cold mother fucker since Episode 1.
Exactly. Doug found this waste of flesh worthy enough to jump in front of a bullet for him. No, no, no Ben you aren't getting any easy ways out of this universe. You're going to have to work for it Mother F*ck**!...
I had to pull him up... I had to, no one with a good heart deserves to die like that; especially since Carly was willing to stand up for him...
I was like f*** it, I'm going to try anyway. I was half expecting it not to succeed, but I was surprised when Lee puts all his strength into it, and manages to pull him up in time.