Would it have been even better if Lee told Clementine that he loved her?
I found that last scene with Clem and Lee to be almost perfect...but I was waiting to hear Lee tell Clementine that he loved her.I know he can say "I'll miss you", but I just felt that him telling her that he loved her would solidify the father-daughter relationship between them and everything that has happened on their journey. Thoughts?:D
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^ This. I felt Lee was about to say it but decided not to for clems sake
I say "written out" only because I have to believe it was intentional - anyone who has experience with saying goodbye to loved ones knows the first thing they want the passing to know is how much they love them. It's almost second nature.
So actually I was a bit surprised Clementine didn't say it. At the same time, they literally just saw her dead parents as mindless zombies, maybe they both felt the words were taboo (thinking in character).
Lee didn't love her, She was just his responsibility so then "I'll miss you" is better than I love you
And I should say "I'll miss you" is a lot deeper than I love you
^I agree
I guess it depends on how you play Lee, in away, but I also feel like this is far off base.
It's funny that you say that because I was wanting him to say it to her too lol. Maybe because I put myself in Lee's position (as we all should), and it's something I would've said to her. Besides, she was like his daughter Damn it's just sad thinking about that ending,and the whole journey they went through together. Lee fought like a warrior for her till the end! Seriously, those two characters are probably my favorite two characters in any "game".
Really? They've spent months together in a zombie apocalypse. That kind of thing makes people grow closer. And a man can't say "I love you" to someone who he's given almost everything up for? Really?
If I was in his position I'd never say something like that.
But that's just me.
They have spent three months together, struggling to survive. Lee has given up almost everything (including his life) for her. I think that warrants at least a little vocalized love.
This is exactly how I saw it.
Naturally Clem mentions her parents first
"My parents.It's so horrible and now... you"
That line was the one that caused a lump in the throat and a manly tear.
I disagree. You can love people like family even if you're not actually related, (step-parents, etc.).
How often do you see teachers telling their students they love them on a daily basis?
Because I feel that Lee was her mentor, if anything... They'd only known each other for 3 months
You could have Lee say it but I'd be expecting zombie Chris Hansen popping up outta nowhere any moment soon after that
You can't tell the difference between a teacher and someone who would die for you?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extended_family#Sociology
If you're comfortable telling little girls you've only known for less than half a year that you love them, all the more power for you!
Let me tell you something, when you spend your days living on edge in an unknown environment and it's the person next to you between you and death -- 3 months may as well be 3 years and yes, you do bond with them in a way I don't think you may understand.
There's no need to bring up an academic study on it, especially if it's from wikipedia.
What the hell dude? Clementine is a fucking videogame character and I am not ashamed to say that I felt like her father, now imagine what LEE would feel... I wouldn't have any problems telling her that I loved her in that situation, because it would be true. Does that make me a pedophile? Well, if it does, that is some real news to me.
Still, replying to members who haven't been active for one and a half months probably won't yield a response.
I didn't realize that someone necro'd the thread.
That explains why it has so many posts so quickly
By far one of the worst arguments I've ever heard. In the realm of where this story takes place and the circumstances surrounding, your reasoning makes you sound like an idiot. It's not like they see each other here and there during the course of 3 months, they were together everyday. They've shared more trauma and experiences in 3 months, then most people do in their life time.
Love isn't confined to a form of sexual attraction or blood relation.
^ This is my view on it.
And I was hoping that option was there. Sadly it was not, but I'm pretty sure they both knew it.
Saying "I love you" would put the thought in her mind that she's losing yet another person who cares for her. Yes, she may already know, but it can be neatly tucked away in the back of her mind if no one brings it up. That increases her chance to get herself out safely and far outweighs the benefits of Lee getting some closure in my mind.
In a different situation? Lee is dying in a safe zone? Clementine has other trusted survivors around for support and protection? Sure. Let her know.
I disagree.
Awwwww....
I half agree.
I think that it would have been worse for Clem to say 'I love you'. Especially if you asked her to shoot you, or "raised" her to shoot you. Also, Clem's a smart girl. Kids are perceptive, so much more than adults give them credit for. She knew that (depending on your play) Lee loved her.
I don't know if it was him not feeling like he should say it because he wasn't her real father, but more that because he felt like her father.
I like to bring humor into most situations, and I can't help but picture my daughter in that situation. I would have told her I loved her hours before I knew I was dying (or at least before I told her I was bitten). Putting it in a direct comparison, I save my daughter from the stranger, tell her I love her but we have to hurry, and then as I'm at the end of my rope, go out on a funny line, or a sweet one like "I'll miss you", versus the "I love you". If you raise your kids right, they know that anyway. :P
I was a bit dispointed in that -_-. They went though so much together and all Clem got was an "I'll miss you..." I think that if they would of said "I love you." That would of made the ending alittle bit sweet and less depressing..cause honestly I was in tears xD
Totally agree. Plus, "I'll miss you" was depressing enough, thank you very much.
Even so, saying "I'll miss you" doesn't necessarily bring me the 100% closure I would of liked.
After she knew her real parents are dead for sure, she might've accepted Lee as her new father after some time, which makes the ending just so much sadder...
You're right, Lee basically adopted Clementine. I definitely felt like she was my daughter.
What kind of an insecure idiot thinks you have to be a pedophile to say I love you to a child you've been taking care of? I was hoping the option to say it would've been there as well. I'm pretty sure Clementine and Lee both knew that they loved each other though. "I'll miss you" was a suitable replacement, though I'm thinking Lee avoided saying "I love you" simply for the fact that she was seconds away from putting a bullet in his head (in my playthrough) and that probably would've stopped her.