Who would you rather want as your sidekick: Clementine or Carl?
In the case of you being alone with one of them in the Walking Dead world.
I know and agree that Clementine is God's gift to earth, but Carl has been pretty badass in the show as of lately, so he would be more of a survival help than Clementine.
I know and agree that Clementine is God's gift to earth, but Carl has been pretty badass in the show as of lately, so he would be more of a survival help than Clementine.
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She's far less likely to kill me out of hand should she think I'm beginning to be a liability in some way.
But neither does Clem.
..They had ONE job...
So my son.
Show Carl got Dale killed.
Depends on which Carl.
Comic book spoilers
Comic Carl is a badass. I haven't heard anything good from the Show Carl so far.
But arguably what Carl did in the comics and what Clem did with the pet door can be linked to both of them wanting to "show off."
That should start with the 'bullet to face' moment.
carl may have more survival skills than clem, but he's turning into a killer really quickly. As much as i commend what he did in the last issue of the comics, I wouldn't want a kid that reckless around me.
Yeah, he played the part of Jason Todd well.
Still love Clementine though >.<
Carl is like a young Anakin Skywalker at the end of the day. He has a lot of anger in him and is impatience. He has a lot of zeal but no wisdom. When you think of what a side kick is Carl would be a better side kick for surviving a zombie apocalypse. A side kick is someone like the Robin character in the Batman comics. They have learned enough from you to protect themselves and others in your group.
Carl does have some tactical awareness and leadership skills. He showed that when he was motivating Morgan and even spoke to him as one with authority. Carl is a child that has grown up fast because of his environment and experiences. He is 9 but he behaves and thinks more like a teenager. Clementine is still very much a child and is far more like the Sophia character that is mollycoddled. As much as I like Clementine I wanted to put her some where safe so I could go out as Lee and do what needed to be done. Clementine was taught by Lee to use a gun but was not trusted to keep one on her until the end as a last resort. Carl in the comics is trusted to have his own gun and he has become quite proficient with it.
Haha that damn joker zombie!
Ben was psychotic and dangerous because he had snapped after seeing all he had seen. He killed his twin brother Billy in cold blood and had killed the farm animals prior to that. He was developing a fixation with killing. Like many others in the group Carl acknowledged he was dangerous and was a risk to the group because he was unstable. None of the adults were able to kill Ben or could abandon him and procrastinated, which would have ultimately put Andrea and Dale at risk since Dale was planning to leave the group with Andrea and Ben . Carl stepped up and did what he felt needed to be done to protect his group. He killed Ben and shouldered the responsibility and did what was to hard for the others to do. Not because he was cold, he actually liked Ben and was upset about having to do it but he saw no other way around it.
The question is who do you think will live longer out of Carl and Sophia? Where Sophia is more like the Clementine character, unless her developmental age surpasses her chronological age as Carl's has she probably won't out live him despite Carl putting himself at risk. If Carl's mentality keeps him alive longer than the more innocent and passive children I would rather him by my side, not only might I live longer because of it but I would have less to worry about if was with me because of his level of maturity.
Carl has more chances to survive I think, because he already became a brutal it's useful to surviving, just remember Ben (comics), or Negan's gang. So I choose Clementine, only because she need care more.
P.S. In TV show Carl are stupid kid.
Now I love Clementine, don't get me wrong but when you consider that she kept the information about the camp man engaging her on the radio from Lee for a week because of her innocence and desire to reunite with her parents i'm not sure how she would be a better side kick in a ZA.
The reason I refer to the comic version of Carl is because that is the original and the game is inspired by the world seen in the comics, not the TV show. Carl behaves like a teenager at the end of the day. He is impetuous, zealous and impatient but when he has defied Rick in the comics it wasn't done out of selfishness. It was poor judgement all the same, but usually the result of him doing what was in the best interest of the group or what he thought was for the group. It is considered defiance because Rick wanted him to stay safe because he is his son and all he has left and Rick will want him to stay away from danger at all times. The fact that Carl is willing to put himself in danger for the good of the group is courageous and shows he is more formidable than he is given credit for, after all he is often successful in meeting his objectives.
i liked her for beeing helpless, because it was very realistic. But in the time we had her around she learned much and learned it quickly, we taught her to shoot. She still couldn't handle a gun (remember train station), that's reasonable too, because unlike in "usual" games it's not that the char learns the skill "gun mastery" and shoots like a badass. No Clem learned the basics. but when it mattered she pulled herself together and shot walkers, and humans, she's not as badass as Carl but during the last few days (since ep3) she learned much stuff quick, i think in 1 or 2 months she'd be just as good as Carl (he had to learn too, don't forget that). we remember when we brought her to Crawford she saved molly's ass, if we didn't she killed a walker by herself, if we couldn't handle the radio guy she shot him (btw. i was really proud/shocked in those moments). also she is very smart for her age, i don't think Carl is.
I'd rather want Clem around than Carl (for all the reasons above + he became kinda heartless (tvshow) and i really don't like him, but i like Clem)
Clementine smiled and nodded with Lee like everything was normal whilst she was engaging with a stranger on the radio for a week which she kept secret. Girls like that in the real world would scare the fuck out of me because they often grow into women that will cheat on their partners. Jokes aside, her loyalty was as much to the campman when he asked her to defy Lee and seek her out as Ben's loyalty was to the friends he thought the bandits were holding captive when he deceived Lee's group to sneak supplies to the bandits in exchange for their safe return. Carl never had a hidden agenda when he defied Rick. It was Carl trying to help or to do what he understood as being necessary for the groups safety.
I think you're right about that, but i also think she learned her lesson, she blames herself for Lee's death.
btw why's he called "campman" ? i don't get it...
As for Carl's body count. How many people would he have killed 13 weeks in the ZA? By my record one. When he shot Shane who was going to kill his dad Rick. Depending on player choices Clementine will shoot the camp man to save Lee after she has hacked at him with a meat cleaver or any of the other weapons she see's on the table. I score them one a piece within the first 13 weeks of the ZA. Whose to say how many more people Clem would of killed by the time she is 18 months or so in the ZA like Carl is? Carl doesn't have an itchy finger or a blood lust, he has gone to a hostile base where everyone he has seen would not hesitate to kill or rape him and he wants justice for the saviors killing his people and to put a stop to Negan's tyranny. I agree that Carl can be impetuous and short tempered, who can blame him he was nearly gang raped on the road to Washington shortly after his mum and baby sister were killed escaping the prison. Sure he needs to learn some restraint, but he will. He has lost his innocence and Clementine is losing hers. I would find both Carl and Clem equally scary if I was one of the mystery silhouettes we saw at the end of ep5 and I didn't know here since she was last seen holding a gun with blood splashed on her face and her body smeared with human flesh. Imagine Clementine 15 months after that ordeal.
But then Clementine can also get me killed off (indirectly...)
In addition to all the skills and ZA life experiences she learned since meeting Lee, Clem has really shown she's capable at the end of episode five. She did drag an adult to safety in the middle of a herd and then escape from an utterly infested city to the countryside.
Plus, at least in my playthrough, I feel I have also imparted on her important lessons to maintain her humanity, not just surviving.