That's one of the most realistic zombie "apocalypse" scenario: headshots are not so easy in real life, people's reaction was genuine, the army doesn't take ages to know how to handle zombies.
How does the walker population never thin? And why is the military unable to get this under control?
#1 the walker population doesn't decrease because the virus is within everyone. no matter how you die, be it due to old age, car accident, shooting or zombie bite, EVERYONE turns into a zombie (unless brain was destroyed beforehand).
#2 this is the only legitimate question. the zombies in the TWD universe are soooooooooooo slow it should not be any problem whatsoever for the army to handle them. But it would be boring to simply have the army clean them all out and thus only have to deal with the people who are dieing. Sometimes logic has to be ignored to make the walking dead universe work.
#1 the walker population doesn't decrease because the virus is within everyone. no matter how you die, be it due to old age, car accident, shooting or zombie bite, EVERYONE turns into a zombie (unless brain was destroyed beforehand).
Yeah but people know that now, and are keeping their dead from coming back.
I think that's just one of those things you kinda have to accept with the genre. That despite there being several world superpowers with first class militaries, almost everything is completely overrun by slow moving corpses that eat people.
I just rationalize it that the initial panic created by the discovery of the living dead leads to massive instability and a chain reaction of events where mankind wipes most of itself by fighting each other and the zombies are just what's left of our own mistakes.
Imagine people swarming military bases for protection, getting shot by the military out of fear of being overrun. Rescue operations constantly being wrecked by too many survivors rushing helicopters and more desperate individuals trying to shoot their way to safety. It plays in with the whole Humans are monsters theme you see in a lot of zombie media.
I really have more of a problem with sneaky zombies. When people see them, zombies are slow shuffling stinking sacks of meat who moan loudly at all times. When people don't see them, they're whisper quiet ninjas who hide in the shadows and only strike when their prey is near. Like those three that show up at the train station in Episode 3. How the fuck did they sneak up on Lee and Clem from nowhere?
I think that's just one of those things you kinda have to accept with the genre.
I agree absolutely. Suspension of belief is key if we are to have any fun with zombie stories.
I think authors in the genre either choose to ignore or are simply ignorant of just how much destructive power (and its effects) most militaries possess plus the adaptability of soldiers. Otherwise, there won't be a zombie genre.
World War Z is probably one of the worst examples in this regard.
Great movie. Still my favorite part is "Are they still out there?" (Slowly walks to window, opens curtains, zombies scratching up against the window, slowly closes the curtains, walks back over and calmly says "Yeah"
As for the population never thinning. New zombies are made everyday. In TWD universe everyone is infected, so people starving, heart attacks, murder, bites, anything like that could happen every day making new zombies.
Although most movies and such dont make it too far along in the ZA, so maybe it would eventually end after the population is gone and the bodies rot and return to the dust from which they were taken.
As for military... my explanation is there are only so many bullets, so much gas, and so much food. if you are trying to supply an army the supplies will go fast. Then they will be nothing more than normal people scavenging off the land waiting to be eaten or die from starvation.
As for military... my explanation is there are only so many bullets, so much gas, and so much food. if you are trying to supply an army the supplies will go fast. Then they will be nothing more than normal people scavenging off the land waiting to be eaten or die from starvation.
I think the national guard would be plenty equipped. Don't need to worry about cover or suppressing fire as the walkers are not shooting back.
There's a lot of things that confuse me with the zombie apocalypse... How can a zombie bite through skin and bone so effortlessly? How can the zombies survive so long, they should really be turning into skeletons.
Amongst other questions, I've just learned to accept it all. Zombie apocalypses are fun mediums and shouldn't be riddled with such unnecessary questions.
There's a lot of things that confuse me with the zombie apocalypse... How can a zombie bite through skin and bone so effortlessly? How can the zombies survive so long, they should really be turning into skeletons.
Amongst other questions, I've just learned to accept it all. Zombie apocalypses are fun mediums and shouldn't be riddled with such unnecessary questions.
Yep. The whole zombie thing is pretty ludacris to begin with.
The I am Legend Movie brought up a very plausible way for zombies to overrun everything (though it never realized that it was supposed to be about vampires) by killing off a massive amount of the population instantly through its virus...If you added making the Walking Dead survivors immune to the airborne strain like in said movie, you'd basically wipe out all major military, and have zombies outnumber humans by billions as the recently dead would all rise again...I also like to think that how intact the body was when it got zombified, dictates how long it would last...So Lee with all his functioning organs and no bodily wounds besides the bite (and sometimes the missing arm) would last quite awhile. Maybe zombies eat flesh and drink blood (sorta) as nourishment as well as to spread itself...also the virus could combat bacteria (if not stop decay, then at least drastically slow it down) and other diseases that enter the body through any wounds the zombie has as its faster at adapting and beating your immune system then Ebola and can one up every other virus by successfully taking over your body, so maybe it could act as a zombie immune system as well. I know its all pseudo-science i just spouted but if you can except the idea of a virus being able to manipulate the brain completely instead of just drive you crazy mad-cow style, then i think these ideas would cover most of the probs with a zombie apocalypse...let me know what you think:)
^You can't really compare I am Legend Zombies with TWD Zombies. In the former the zombies are extremely dangerous, fast, agile and strong. They could track the car, run incredibly fast, climb buildings, rip through the roof, search rooms and work together to smash high security glass.
I'd say those zombies are the exact opposite of the ones used in the walking dead universe. Any Army would get absolutely annihilated by those things mentioned above.
TWD Zombies on the other hand are weak, extremely slow, extremely dumb and can not climb nor do anything the ones in I am Legend could do. So I'd say that's a pretty bad example.
The answer is probably that it spread so fast on the opening day, People not fully aware of what a bite does or that headshots are required. People dying in the panic to create even more walkers. This happening across the entirety of the country at the same time and since everyones infected while there's a human there's another walker. The number of walkers probably is thinning, but the number of people is declining pretty rapidly too and there's just so many of them. Current population estimate of the USA is 315 million. probably at least 100 million walkers. Takes a long time before the difference would be visible.
The military probably got overwhelmed before it could properly organise a response. Then the remnants would have had too much ground to cover/been spread way too thin.
Its not impossible a couple of bases may have survived somewhere but without the manpower or resources to make a dent in the hordes.
Like dr. Jenner said a lot of people left to be with their families when it got real bad. (Probably a week or so into it) plus millions of zombies were being made a day at that time. Those 2 elements combine to leave us out numbered and without military.
^You can't really compare I am Legend Zombies with TWD Zombies. In the former the zombies are extremely dangerous, fast, agile and strong. They could track the car, run incredibly fast, climb buildings, rip through the roof, search rooms and work together to smash high security glass.
I'd say those zombies are the exact opposite of the ones used in the walking dead universe. Any Army would get absolutely annihilated by those things mentioned above.
TWD Zombies on the other hand are weak, extremely slow, extremely dumb and can not climb nor do anything the ones in I am Legend could do. So I'd say that's a pretty bad example.
I didn't mean to compare them. I was trying to solve the problems a lasting zombie apocalypse would have by combining I am legend's viral death rate with twd's old school zombies and reanimating upon death...The rest of the stuff in the post I made up to explain how they were able to last for so long
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Like all zombie apocalypses I'm afraid
Except Shawn of the Dead.
Oh yeh :P but in others the military and police get swarmed somehow
That's one of the most realistic zombie "apocalypse" scenario: headshots are not so easy in real life, people's reaction was genuine, the army doesn't take ages to know how to handle zombies.
I know in the TV show, Jenner mentioned that the French had been working on a cure.
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#1 the walker population doesn't decrease because the virus is within everyone. no matter how you die, be it due to old age, car accident, shooting or zombie bite, EVERYONE turns into a zombie (unless brain was destroyed beforehand).
#2 this is the only legitimate question. the zombies in the TWD universe are soooooooooooo slow it should not be any problem whatsoever for the army to handle them. But it would be boring to simply have the army clean them all out and thus only have to deal with the people who are dieing. Sometimes logic has to be ignored to make the walking dead universe work.
Its global. They state it on the comic books, althought this is a meta-info.
Yeah but people know that now, and are keeping their dead from coming back.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nst6aFM9kGA
I just rationalize it that the initial panic created by the discovery of the living dead leads to massive instability and a chain reaction of events where mankind wipes most of itself by fighting each other and the zombies are just what's left of our own mistakes.
Imagine people swarming military bases for protection, getting shot by the military out of fear of being overrun. Rescue operations constantly being wrecked by too many survivors rushing helicopters and more desperate individuals trying to shoot their way to safety. It plays in with the whole Humans are monsters theme you see in a lot of zombie media.
I really have more of a problem with sneaky zombies. When people see them, zombies are slow shuffling stinking sacks of meat who moan loudly at all times. When people don't see them, they're whisper quiet ninjas who hide in the shadows and only strike when their prey is near. Like those three that show up at the train station in Episode 3. How the fuck did they sneak up on Lee and Clem from nowhere?
I agree absolutely. Suspension of belief is key if we are to have any fun with zombie stories.
I think authors in the genre either choose to ignore or are simply ignorant of just how much destructive power (and its effects) most militaries possess plus the adaptability of soldiers. Otherwise, there won't be a zombie genre.
World War Z is probably one of the worst examples in this regard.
Great movie. Still my favorite part is "Are they still out there?" (Slowly walks to window, opens curtains, zombies scratching up against the window, slowly closes the curtains, walks back over and calmly says "Yeah"
As for the population never thinning. New zombies are made everyday. In TWD universe everyone is infected, so people starving, heart attacks, murder, bites, anything like that could happen every day making new zombies.
Although most movies and such dont make it too far along in the ZA, so maybe it would eventually end after the population is gone and the bodies rot and return to the dust from which they were taken.
As for military... my explanation is there are only so many bullets, so much gas, and so much food. if you are trying to supply an army the supplies will go fast. Then they will be nothing more than normal people scavenging off the land waiting to be eaten or die from starvation.
I think the national guard would be plenty equipped. Don't need to worry about cover or suppressing fire as the walkers are not shooting back.
Amongst other questions, I've just learned to accept it all. Zombie apocalypses are fun mediums and shouldn't be riddled with such unnecessary questions.
Yep. The whole zombie thing is pretty ludacris to begin with.
I'd say those zombies are the exact opposite of the ones used in the walking dead universe. Any Army would get absolutely annihilated by those things mentioned above.
TWD Zombies on the other hand are weak, extremely slow, extremely dumb and can not climb nor do anything the ones in I am Legend could do. So I'd say that's a pretty bad example.
The military probably got overwhelmed before it could properly organise a response. Then the remnants would have had too much ground to cover/been spread way too thin.
Its not impossible a couple of bases may have survived somewhere but without the manpower or resources to make a dent in the hordes.