Yea TTG shouldn't have killed the dog. Owners of Dogs get very sensitive. We just met the dog, and now kill it. I understand it bit her, but t… morehat don't mean kill it. we should have a choice to save it too...
P.S
How the hell did the dog get an arrow in it? Was there someone in the camp? That got me confused...
I read almost every thread on the front page because I am interested in discussing the game, whether I agree with the premise or not. I was just going to leave it alone until you got to the part I quoted. If anything, people like me and NotablyUnstable are keeping it relevant by posting our disagreements in the first place. You're welcome.
I'm not entirely sure what posting the dog statistics in the US has to do with anything, either. There could be 100 million dogs (that all somehow haven't magically died out, used as food by the survivors, or returned to their natural feral instincts during the worst pandemic to hit the entire country/world) and finding one to buddy along with still wouldn't make the story all that interesting in my opinion.
Sorry, but I would like to simply point out the title to this thread. I greatly believe that you read it, and I highly recommend that you rere… moread the title as well as the description. This thread was intended as a way for people with a shared opinion's voice to be heard, and is not meant to stifle the thoughts of others. I referred people with varying views to direct themselves toward threads that were originally conceptualized for a diverse purpose. Everyone found on this planet has an opinion, and everyone deserves to share it, but of course there is a time and place for everything. I also would like to bring to your attention that there are at least 50 million dogs in the United States, and that their survival instinct is far more prevalent than that of a human.
Sorry, but I would like to simply point out the title to this thread. I greatly believe that you read it, and I highly recommend that you rere… moread the title as well as the description. This thread was intended as a way for people with a shared opinion's voice to be heard, and is not meant to stifle the thoughts of others. I referred people with varying views to direct themselves toward threads that were originally conceptualized for a diverse purpose. Everyone found on this planet has an opinion, and everyone deserves to share it, but of course there is a time and place for everything. I also would like to bring to your attention that there are at least 50 million dogs in the United States, and that their survival instinct is far more prevalent than that of a human.
I'm sorry I can't agree with this. Seeing a story of Clem's survival is the purpose of playing this game.
lets just stop here and say that a new dog would help with the plot
I would love to stop here but I don't think either of us is going to settle until we've had the last word. Another dog would be a good way to test Clem's (and the player's) moral compass, but I'm sure Telltale have other, and better, ways of doing that. We don't need another dog character.
it fits the story but it isnt good with the plot because it removes every glimmer of hope and removes the purpose of playing the game. lets ju… morest stop here and say that a new dog would help with the plot, because it would allow the player to choose if they want Clem to survive or to keep her moral compass. doesn't that sound good?
Telltale do actually read the forums. Go watch Playing Dead. They reveal that during Season 1 they payed very close attention to what was happening on the forums and we have no reason to believe that has changed.
As much as you want to not believe it: telltale actually does not read these forums and does not care at all what any player says. The only fe… moreedback they actually take into account is technical improvements. Sorry to disappoint, you can thumbs me down for saying it but they don't care. A virtual petition won't make a difference. Although apart from that I do wish Sam lived a little longer or at least "ran away" and not suffered that kind of death.
but I'm sure Telltale have other, and better, ways of doing that. We don't need another dog character.
Exactly. And TWD has always been about people's relationships with other people. Not with animals, and not even with the zombies (unless you're a head in a bag).
it removes every glimmer of hope
That's exactly what Telltale want.
removes the purpose of playing the game.
I'm sorry I… more can't agree with this. Seeing a story of Clem's survival is the purpose of playing this game.
lets just stop here and say that a new dog would help with the plot
I would love to stop here but I don't think either of us is going to settle until we've had the last word. Another dog would be a good way to test Clem's (and the player's) moral compass, but I'm sure Telltale have other, and better, ways of doing that. We don't need another dog character.
I doubt they will be bringing another friendly dog back into the game. I don't think my Clem would feel as comfortable around starving animals anymore anyways.
Yeah, the point of bringing Sam into the story at all was to dispel any notions that Clementine would have an easy time trusting anyone, including animals. We're SUPPOSED to be tricked into thinking that Clementine might have a companion in Sam for a few episodes, and we're SUPPOSED to be shocked and hurt when he snaps when we take away the food. Telltale is reminding us that the world of The Walking Dead is cruel, bleak, and upsetting.
As much as we (and Clementine) might like a friendly companion to take care of, it's just not that easy. We're starting over from square one, unable to trust anyone or anything, and we have to be on our guard.
Yeah, the point of bringing Sam into the story at all was to dispel any notions that Clementine would have an easy time trusting anyone, inclu… moreding animals. We're SUPPOSED to be tricked into thinking that Clementine might have a companion in Sam for a few episodes, and we're SUPPOSED to be shocked and hurt when he snaps when we take away the food. Telltale is reminding us that the world of The Walking Dead is cruel, bleak, and upsetting.
As much as we (and Clementine) might like a friendly companion to take care of, it's just not that easy. We're starting over from square one, unable to trust anyone or anything, and we have to be on our guard.
Woah, give him a break, man, he's just stating his opinion. We're all human beings here and we're capable of having a civilised discussion. You've got to see it from his point of view. He was really shaken by having to kill Sam and a lot of people agree that maybe Telltale took it a bit far. I disagree with this but there's no need to give him a hard time for it. We're all friends here.
Woah, give him a break, man, he's just stating his opinion. We're all human beings here and we're capable of having a civilised discussion. Yo… moreu've got to see it from his point of view. He was really shaken by having to kill Sam and a lot of people agree that maybe Telltale took it a bit far. I disagree with this but there's no need to give him a hard time for it. We're all friends here.
I love dogs. But even though I hate to admit it, in the zombie apocalypse having pets is risky. Dogs are noisy in general, unless one can somehow train a dog to not to bark at any random walker it sees or senses, it'd just attract every walker in hearing distance all around you. It's dangerous for a survivor who needs to be sneaky most of the time. No reason to engage walkers if you can walk around them (ammo is precious), a dog would make it difficult to do that. Also, there's food issue. Survivors needs every bit of it, starvation is a constant threat. I admit it, there might be some benefits too, if you're alone, a dog would be a good watch while you sleep and it would surely be useful for scavenging food or other stuff, if you can train it well for such things. In the long run if you're not a lone-ranger type of survivor, isolated herself/himself in a remote location, I don't think having a dog companion would do you much good. Just my opinion though.
I referred people with varying views to direct themselves toward threads that were originally conceptualized for a diverse purpose.
Seriously, wut
That does seem vaguely annoying/pretentious but there's nothing he can do to enforce it.
I can't even begin to entertain this silliness.
I think you'll find a lot of the discussion about Season 2 will be about this. That scene was incredibly disturbing and I have seen a lot of people argue that it was too much. I know you and I and a lot of other people disagree with this, but there's no need to insult others for speaking their mind. We have every right to disagree and to argue, but it's wrong on so many levels to attack someone personally because of their opinion.
Calm down, I'm just breaking balls. His/her posts are ludicrous. Especially with the whole "only post in my thread if you agree with me" thing… more.
I referred people with varying views to direct themselves toward threads that were originally conceptualized for a diverse purpose.
Seriously, wut
He was really shaken by having to kill Sam and a lot of people agree that maybe Telltale took it a bit far.
I can't even begin to entertain this silliness.
I referred people with varying views to direct themselves toward threads that were originally conceptualized for a diverse purpose.
Ser… moreiously, wut
That does seem vaguely annoying/pretentious but there's nothing he can do to enforce it.
I can't even begin to entertain this silliness.
I think you'll find a lot of the discussion about Season 2 will be about this. That scene was incredibly disturbing and I have seen a lot of people argue that it was too much. I know you and I and a lot of other people disagree with this, but there's no need to insult others for speaking their mind. We have every right to disagree and to argue, but it's wrong on so many levels to attack someone personally because of their opinion.
I agree with everything you state right here, other than the fact that a dog companion would be worth it. I believe it would, as season 1 shone when you had a little protégé and it would be uninteresting to have a child that is younger than Clementine. We need a direction to go in, and the dog would help that along. Now, I understand we have varying notions and I believe that we both are correct in our own regards.
I understand that, and I admit I misinterpreted your original post when I made my first comment here. I'm having a lot of trouble wording this… more correctly so bear with me.
As I understand it, Telltale usually map out the story for their games before they release the first episode. Adding a whole new character to be with Clementine would require changing a lot in the story if they plan to keep it around longer than Sam. That's doable, but I'm not sure it would be worth it.
There is another problem. Many players would be jaded by their experience with Sam. I think a lot of people would have trouble connecting to a new dog because they would have the memory of Sam brutally attacking Clem when she tried to take the food.
Kudzu, if you have an impression on the deliberation of this condition, please direct it towards the plight rather than the populace of this thread. Also, please improve your grammar and vocabulary, and do not move against someone simply for the reason that your terminology is inferior to theirs.
Calm down, I'm just breaking balls. His/her posts are ludicrous. Especially with the whole "only post in my thread if you agree with me" thing… more.
I referred people with varying views to direct themselves toward threads that were originally conceptualized for a diverse purpose.
Seriously, wut
He was really shaken by having to kill Sam and a lot of people agree that maybe Telltale took it a bit far.
I can't even begin to entertain this silliness.
Might I expeditiously evince to you that although the game includes a variety of swearing, you do not have to use inappropriate language on this forum. I presume that you should endeavor to commemorate what proper etiquette is.
Just about everything. Like I said before, this is the big leagues now.
My least favorite part about these kinds of stories are the beginni… morengs, when you know more than the characters do about the threat but still have to wait for them to figure it all out, and you know the ultimate goal they're working for is going to be for naught (ugh, Kenny and his fucking boat obsession) but still have to go through the motions. Don't get me wrong, I loved Season 1, but that's because Lee and Clementine made the journey worth it.
And now Clem is on her own and I'm feeling much more vulnerable and less self-assured playing as her than I ever did as Lee, which is great. I love that you can decide how and to what extent she's been forced to grow up. I love how unsure everything is at this point. I love how the "welcome to the zombie apocalypse" season-long tutorial is finally over and the safety net is gone. I like how I can't instantly gauge everyone in t… [view original content]
But it isn't season one. Clem is 10. She doesn't need a protégé. If I wanted that, I could just play season one again. Bring in a second dog, would also feel totally out of place, wouldn't it? How many dogs have we seen so far in 2 years of the apocalypse? And now we want two dogs in a couple of days.
So no, a dog companion isn't worth changing one letter of the script, in my opinion.
Why is it so hard for people to let season one be and accept the new story as what is: new? And therefore different.
I agree with everything you state right here, other than the fact that a dog companion would be worth it. I believe it would, as season 1 shon… moree when you had a little protégé and it would be uninteresting to have a child that is younger than Clementine. We need a direction to go in, and the dog would help that along. Now, I understand we have varying notions and I believe that we both are correct in our own regards.
Fuck Sam. I gave him food, and he tried to murder me. Here's hoping that that little bastard STAYS dead. We don't need him or some other dog to go berserk on us again.
Please refrain from using foul language and childish slang on this forum if it is directed towards other people. Also, before you post, please read whatever has been already stated for the sake of actually posting something relevant, meaningful, kind, and remember that we are all friends here.
"This post is meant solely for those who agree"
You don't have the authority, idiot. If you're going to post something as stupid as this, prepare for negative feedback.
I haven't used foul language (the picture did), childish slang, and I can say what ever I wan't about people I feel are stupid. I don't have to be nice. That isn't a requirement. In fact, we aren't all friends here. We're a bunch of different people, with different opinions, who feel differently about each other.
Please refrain from using foul language and childish slang on this forum if it is directed towards other people. Also, before you post, please… more read whatever has been already stated for the sake of actually posting something relevant, meaningful, kind, and remember that we are all friends here.
Well, first off, I'd like to point out the fact that your statement was incorrect, as you used foul language by posting the image. And how about, why don't you be nice? I haven't done anything rude to you.
I haven't used foul language (the picture did), childish slang, and I can say what ever I wan't about people I feel are stupid. I don't have t… moreo be nice. That isn't a requirement. In fact, we aren't all friends here. We're a bunch of different people, with different opinions, who feel differently about each other.
please go fucking fuck yourself you fucking cunt-ass mother fucking fucked-face fucker with no dick and a little bitch-ass mouth and all of that other fucking shit so please go cum on your own cunt you fucking asshole...stupid... like dawg said just be nice
I haven't used foul language (the picture did), childish slang, and I can say what ever I wan't about people I feel are stupid. I don't have t… moreo be nice. That isn't a requirement. In fact, we aren't all friends here. We're a bunch of different people, with different opinions, who feel differently about each other.
Correct me if i'm wrong. But you dont like season 2 because it doesnt have a dog companion? Excuse me but that's fucking dumb. The post apocalyptic dog companion has been done in so many movie's, games,... (A boy and his dog, mad max 2, I am legend, fallout 1 and 3) It's overrated and cliche. And i'm glad they killed of Sam the dog early.
i was talking about the book not the movie. so how do you like season 2 so far? because i dont like it as much as season 1 for all the reasons… more stated here... i mean whats the point of playing without a goal other than survive, especially if you lose your humanity and have to hang out with a bunch of fucking lame characters who share facial models with people from a previous season....
Yea TTG shouldn't have killed the dog. Owners of Dogs get very sensitive. We just met the dog, and now kill it. I understand it bit her, but t… morehat don't mean kill it. we should have a choice to save it too...
P.S
How the hell did the dog get an arrow in it? Was there someone in the camp? That got me confused...
I see your point, but it would just seem "weird" to suddenly have a dog partner, when in this game, we've only found ONE dog that has been alive, and the other was buried, the chance of finding another dog is next to nothing, you also have to understand that this game isn't always about how nice things are going to be, The Walking Dead is supposed to be a time of distress and depression, the idea is neat, and I respect it, but it wouldn't seem logical from the perspective of how the game plays.
What do you people actually expect? Clementine starting to take care of the dog and they become a dream team fighting zombies while showing the power of friendship? That's the storyline of some Disney movie but not even remotely a realistic approach. The dog attacked Clementine because he was extremely hungry, which is not as uncommon as you may think. And Clementine tried to survive and thus fought, which is absolute natural. Both tried to survive in a world where surviving is pretty unlikely and one had to die.
Posting an image with foul language is not posting foul language. If anything it's posting inappropriate content. @MrCowMan Oooh, someone thinks they're scary. Get the fuck over it, bitch.
Well, first off, I'd like to point out the fact that your statement was incorrect, as you used foul language by posting the image. And how about, why don't you be nice? I haven't done anything rude to you.
please go fucking fuck yourself you fucking cunt-ass mother fucking fucked-face fucker with no dick and a little bitch-ass mouth and all of th… moreat other fucking shit so please go cum on your own cunt you fucking asshole...stupid... like dawg said just be nice
I see your point, but it would just seem "weird" to suddenly have a dog partner, when in this game, we've only found ONE dog that has been ali… moreve, and the other was buried, the chance of finding another dog is next to nothing, you also have to understand that this game isn't always about how nice things are going to be, The Walking Dead is supposed to be a time of distress and depression, the idea is neat, and I respect it, but it wouldn't seem logical from the perspective of how the game plays.
Kudzu, if you have an impression on the deliberation of this condition, please direct it towards the plight rather than the populace of this t… morehread. Also, please improve your grammar and vocabulary, and do not move against someone simply for the reason that your terminology is inferior to theirs.
Might I expeditiously evince to you that although the game includes a variety of swearing, you do not have to use inappropriate language on this forum. I presume that you should endeavor to commemorate what proper etiquette is.
I would like to anti-sign this petition, and therefore cancel out one of the votes put forward by its supporters.
The idea that inspired it is trite and antithetical to the themes TWD relies upon to convey a sense of uncertainty and feelings of isolation to the player.
It's a bad idea, and it both disgusts and amuses me that TC tried to make his thread immune to critique. Furthermore, I find his manner pretentious and condescending, and so have taken it upon myself to parody it for shits 'n' giggles.
I will take every dislike this comment receives as a personal compliment, because each one will signify the ire of yet another denial-addled proponent of the misguided proposition expounded upon in the original post.
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I often wonder if some people here have any idea of what IP they're playing in. If you want more lighthearted fare, TWD may not be for you.
I read almost every thread on the front page because I am interested in discussing the game, whether I agree with the premise or not. I was just going to leave it alone until you got to the part I quoted. If anything, people like me and NotablyUnstable are keeping it relevant by posting our disagreements in the first place. You're welcome.
I'm not entirely sure what posting the dog statistics in the US has to do with anything, either. There could be 100 million dogs (that all somehow haven't magically died out, used as food by the survivors, or returned to their natural feral instincts during the worst pandemic to hit the entire country/world) and finding one to buddy along with still wouldn't make the story all that interesting in my opinion.
Jesus, you're fucking serious, aren't you?
That's exactly what Telltale want.
I'm sorry I can't agree with this. Seeing a story of Clem's survival is the purpose of playing this game.
I would love to stop here but I don't think either of us is going to settle until we've had the last word. Another dog would be a good way to test Clem's (and the player's) moral compass, but I'm sure Telltale have other, and better, ways of doing that. We don't need another dog character.
Telltale do actually read the forums. Go watch Playing Dead. They reveal that during Season 1 they payed very close attention to what was happening on the forums and we have no reason to believe that has changed.
Yes to all those points, but especially:
Exactly. And TWD has always been about people's relationships with other people. Not with animals, and not even with the zombies (unless you're a head in a bag).
I doubt they will be bringing another friendly dog back into the game. I don't think my Clem would feel as comfortable around starving animals anymore anyways.
Yeah, the point of bringing Sam into the story at all was to dispel any notions that Clementine would have an easy time trusting anyone, including animals. We're SUPPOSED to be tricked into thinking that Clementine might have a companion in Sam for a few episodes, and we're SUPPOSED to be shocked and hurt when he snaps when we take away the food. Telltale is reminding us that the world of The Walking Dead is cruel, bleak, and upsetting.
As much as we (and Clementine) might like a friendly companion to take care of, it's just not that easy. We're starting over from square one, unable to trust anyone or anything, and we have to be on our guard.
Great post! Absolutely agree! Be wary whenever there is hope in The Walking Dead.
Woah, give him a break, man, he's just stating his opinion. We're all human beings here and we're capable of having a civilised discussion. You've got to see it from his point of view. He was really shaken by having to kill Sam and a lot of people agree that maybe Telltale took it a bit far. I disagree with this but there's no need to give him a hard time for it. We're all friends here.
Calm down, I'm just breaking balls. His/her posts are ludicrous. Especially with the whole "only post in my thread if you agree with me" thing.
Seriously, wut
I can't even begin to entertain this silliness.
I love dogs. But even though I hate to admit it, in the zombie apocalypse having pets is risky. Dogs are noisy in general, unless one can somehow train a dog to not to bark at any random walker it sees or senses, it'd just attract every walker in hearing distance all around you. It's dangerous for a survivor who needs to be sneaky most of the time. No reason to engage walkers if you can walk around them (ammo is precious), a dog would make it difficult to do that. Also, there's food issue. Survivors needs every bit of it, starvation is a constant threat. I admit it, there might be some benefits too, if you're alone, a dog would be a good watch while you sleep and it would surely be useful for scavenging food or other stuff, if you can train it well for such things. In the long run if you're not a lone-ranger type of survivor, isolated herself/himself in a remote location, I don't think having a dog companion would do you much good. Just my opinion though.
That does seem vaguely annoying/pretentious but there's nothing he can do to enforce it.
I think you'll find a lot of the discussion about Season 2 will be about this. That scene was incredibly disturbing and I have seen a lot of people argue that it was too much. I know you and I and a lot of other people disagree with this, but there's no need to insult others for speaking their mind. We have every right to disagree and to argue, but it's wrong on so many levels to attack someone personally because of their opinion.
I'm most definitely goofing on the content of his/her posts and not who he/she is as a human being.
Ok then. Glad we're on the same side.
I agree with everything you state right here, other than the fact that a dog companion would be worth it. I believe it would, as season 1 shone when you had a little protégé and it would be uninteresting to have a child that is younger than Clementine. We need a direction to go in, and the dog would help that along. Now, I understand we have varying notions and I believe that we both are correct in our own regards.
Kudzu, if you have an impression on the deliberation of this condition, please direct it towards the plight rather than the populace of this thread. Also, please improve your grammar and vocabulary, and do not move against someone simply for the reason that your terminology is inferior to theirs.
Might I expeditiously evince to you that although the game includes a variety of swearing, you do not have to use inappropriate language on this forum. I presume that you should endeavor to commemorate what proper etiquette is.
This is someone that understands.
But it isn't season one. Clem is 10. She doesn't need a protégé. If I wanted that, I could just play season one again. Bring in a second dog, would also feel totally out of place, wouldn't it? How many dogs have we seen so far in 2 years of the apocalypse? And now we want two dogs in a couple of days.
So no, a dog companion isn't worth changing one letter of the script, in my opinion.
Why is it so hard for people to let season one be and accept the new story as what is: new? And therefore different.
Argh, ENOUGH of this darn dog already. You people need to let stuff like this go already. Geez...
"This post is meant solely for those who agree"
You don't have the authority, idiot. If you're going to post something as stupid as this, prepare for negative feedback.
Fuck Sam. I gave him food, and he tried to murder me. Here's hoping that that little bastard STAYS dead. We don't need him or some other dog to go berserk on us again.
Please refrain from using foul language and childish slang on this forum if it is directed towards other people. Also, before you post, please read whatever has been already stated for the sake of actually posting something relevant, meaningful, kind, and remember that we are all friends here.
I haven't used foul language (the picture did), childish slang, and I can say what ever I wan't about people I feel are stupid. I don't have to be nice. That isn't a requirement. In fact, we aren't all friends here. We're a bunch of different people, with different opinions, who feel differently about each other.
Well, first off, I'd like to point out the fact that your statement was incorrect, as you used foul language by posting the image. And how about, why don't you be nice? I haven't done anything rude to you.
please go fucking fuck yourself you fucking cunt-ass mother fucking fucked-face fucker with no dick and a little bitch-ass mouth and all of that other fucking shit so please go cum on your own cunt you fucking asshole...stupid... like dawg said just be nice
Well shit...
Correct me if i'm wrong. But you dont like season 2 because it doesnt have a dog companion? Excuse me but that's fucking dumb. The post apocalyptic dog companion has been done in so many movie's, games,... (A boy and his dog, mad max 2, I am legend, fallout 1 and 3) It's overrated and cliche. And i'm glad they killed of Sam the dog early.
Arrow? When Clem kicked the dog it fell on some sort of metal spike thing. No arrows were shot there.
I see your point, but it would just seem "weird" to suddenly have a dog partner, when in this game, we've only found ONE dog that has been alive, and the other was buried, the chance of finding another dog is next to nothing, you also have to understand that this game isn't always about how nice things are going to be, The Walking Dead is supposed to be a time of distress and depression, the idea is neat, and I respect it, but it wouldn't seem logical from the perspective of how the game plays.
What do you people actually expect? Clementine starting to take care of the dog and they become a dream team fighting zombies while showing the power of friendship? That's the storyline of some Disney movie but not even remotely a realistic approach. The dog attacked Clementine because he was extremely hungry, which is not as uncommon as you may think. And Clementine tried to survive and thus fought, which is absolute natural. Both tried to survive in a world where surviving is pretty unlikely and one had to die.
Posting an image with foul language is not posting foul language. If anything it's posting inappropriate content.
@MrCowMan Oooh, someone thinks they're scary. Get the fuck over it, bitch.
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Thank you Jesse, that was a very professional comment and I strongly respect your opinion. Happy playing!
I remember the days of the old forum when threads where serious....
Holy fuckmuffins, my friend--you are gold. Solid comedy gold.
Scratch my previous post. You are comedy PLATINUM.
Animal Mother can be a rabid buffalo.
I would like to anti-sign this petition, and therefore cancel out one of the votes put forward by its supporters.
The idea that inspired it is trite and antithetical to the themes TWD relies upon to convey a sense of uncertainty and feelings of isolation to the player.
It's a bad idea, and it both disgusts and amuses me that TC tried to make his thread immune to critique. Furthermore, I find his manner pretentious and condescending, and so have taken it upon myself to parody it for shits 'n' giggles.
I will take every dislike this comment receives as a personal compliment, because each one will signify the ire of yet another denial-addled proponent of the misguided proposition expounded upon in the original post.