WTF DAT ENDING!!!
DAT EPISODE 2 ENDING WTF!!!
Do you think it was Crane who killed Faith too, that would be too easy?
Also do you guys have any idea who The Crooked Man is? I man I know the story about him but sounds like he is Tweedles boss as far as I understood?
Dat ending seriously shocked me though, I am SO gonna beat the fuk out of Crane as soon as I get the choice.
Somehow it's harder to cope with it when you know that the killer is someone who you trusted... I mean I knew he was a douche, but this...
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It CANT BE Crane? We have 3 more episodes?
Crane isn't necessarily the killer (he most likely isn't, since it's too early in the season for the mystery to wrap up, plus it seemed like he genuinely thought Snow White had died). At this point all we know is that he was just the one who bought the black market glamour to make a Snow clone.
It's too soon for the killer to be revealed. I'm thinking that Crane is just another red herring like Woody. He's a pervert, but I doubt that he's actually the killer.
It won't be him, why should he have that photo there, so anybody could find it? This a setup from Bluebeard, so he can take over.
I don't think that Crane is the killer too. I guess he's just a pervert paying a hooker to be a snow white lookalike because this little sex maniac didn't get a shot at the real snow white. But this stalking issue and the fact that he saw what we found out about him will be a quite dangerous mixture in the next episodes.
I guess this explains his "massages"... I did not see that coming. I mean I suspected it, but not in the way we're talking about here.
Or, it could have been the killer glamoured as Crane to confuse Bigby!
Then why Crane would've destroyed the mirror at the end? Don't think a glamoured version could make it in his office and/or car driving away.
My bet is Crane was playing dirty with a prossie requested to do a Snow, and left her sleeping/pretending to be sleeping - as in the story - then she was killed afterwards by unlucky co-incidence. I do think he was there beforehand though being a bit sinister and weird with Snow, hence the mirror smashing rage. Whoever was out to kill Snow really could well have seen "her" with Crane and taken that to be an assurance that this just didn't look like Snow, it was Snow.
Did anyone else notice the perfume bottle on the desk near the book? That looked identical to the bottle "wear this" perfume that was found on the body. (I bet he was just after a bit of Snow action and that the perfume was part of the realism for the kinky lawman, and nothing to do with the case - so how/why they had the perfume is a red herring.)
No, what he meant was that the Crane in the picture was just someone glamoured to look like him. He destroyed the mirror because, obviously, it looks bad for him, so he just ran away to save himself.
I definitely don't think he killed Lily, he could be a pervert buuuut.... I don't know. It seems unlikely. Who took those pictures? Why would he keep them in that room?
I think Crane's just trying to save his ass at this point.
Now we all know that Crane is not the murderer. Which murder would let photos of himself at the murders place. I think someone want to get rid of Crane to get his position, maybe bluebeard...
I wonder if someone used a black market glamour to frame Crane (in photo).
It wouldn't be his mo, Crane wanted to fallow the book. Maybe its a setup, like Bluebeard taking over as it seems in the end? It would all make sense that he wanted Crane gone for some reason and take his place? Hes a shady guy.
He wouldn't have gotten mad and smashed the mirror then.
i have a feeling there are more glamours of different fables, so fake Crane in the picture, and possibly fake Crane smashing the mirror (but that could just be out of fear and anger of being set up) but you never know, Crane likes his "massages"
i bet there will be a fake bigby sooner or later though
Lots of evidence supporting that it's not Crane. Also who was taking the photos of fake Crane and Lily?
He broke the mirror and ran because he's scared easily and depending how rough Bigby gets in the interrogation room it's logical he doesn't want to stick around and risk Bigby going fucking crazy.
He's just trying to protect himself from the inevitable shit-storm going his way.
Someone who smokes Huff and Puffs. Remember Beauty saying she thought Bigby was the only one smoking that brand? Maybe someone is trying to completely discredit "Fable police" by fake-glamouring as Crane, Snow and Bigby....
He will undoubtedly do that but he was definitely angry at being found out, rather than simply shitting himself. I'm pretty sure that he did buy Lily's services but the photo must have been planted. I suspect Bluebeard did the planting, hence the power trip in the chair.
So Bluebeard could easily have arranged Lily's killing in order to frame Crane but we haven't seen a motive for bumping off Faith yet. I suspect the Lily killing is copycat, so the original killer is still to be found.
One thing that confuses me is that Beauty said she didn't recognize anyone with Lily. So, let's just assume that it was the real Crane in the photo. Since Beauty didn't recognize Crane, it seems very likely he was glamoured. If he was glamoured, then, why did he show up on the photo? Unless he likes to "un-glamour" for the deed.
Crane ( I ) broke the mirror so Bigby couldn't find him back.. it would be stupid to just smash it with no reason.. xD
I actually saw it coming. Wine that medications that he is using. It wasnt much of a suprise. Still not sure if he is a murder of course.
I don't think Crane is the killer. He just has a fetish with Snow and that's why he did the whole thing. My guess is that he did his thing , left the room for a bit and next thing you know : when he returns his whole bed is covered in blood right there. He probably got scared and ran away.
Yeah, the only thing we know for sure is that Crane is guilty of being a creep and a stalker. We don't know if he is the killer.
No, Crane is creep, that was established in the comics and he was kicked out of Fabletown. We don't know if he was the killer, but he is in fact a creep and a stalker. Him having an unhealthy obsession with Snow is also well established.
The reason he left the photo was because he was the only one with the key to the room.
No, it is well established that Crane is a creep and a Pervert, so that really is him. What we don't know is if he's the killer.
No, it was Crane. He has always been a creep toward Snow. That said, i don't think he's the killer.
It's not Bluebeard, if it was, he wouldn't be around during Fables. No one glamoured up as Crane, he has always been a creep. He probably isn't the killer, but he is a creepy stalker.
Crane has always had an unhealthy obsession with Snow, so it is unlikely that anyone was disguised as Crane or planted anything. He is a creep. He's probably not the murderer, but he is a stalker, the photos are his.
I also doubt it's Bluebeard. After all, this is a prequel and Bluebeard still lives in Fabletown at the start of the series. The one that isn't around is Crane, who was kicked out of Fabletown.
Bluebeard is a dick, but he's not the killer and he didn't frame Crane.
No, that's the real Crane. The comics established he creeped on Snow. That was also clearly the real Crane.
if he can glamour girls to look like snow then he can glamour himself to look like crane, its obviously not him... i have an odd feeling blue beard is behind this and by odd i mean obvious... loved beauty in this one the story is coming together well i just wish there had been more action moments, the fight with beast was awesome...
Actually, there is lots of evidence to support that is Crane in the picture, especially if you are familiar with the comic. The comic established that Crane was kicked out of Fabletown, this was likely the reason. Crane being a perv and a creep is also well established.
The only thing he might not be guilty off is murder.
You assume she would see Crane. Her Key wasn't even able to open the door to his motel room. She didn't see anyone take out the body either after all.
Except it's not Bluebeard, he's a dick but he didn't kill or frame anyone.
nvm...
Yeah, if you've read the comics it's very easy to believe that Crane would be that creepy.
No, I'm saying, Beauty didn't recognize Crane, and if he was glamoured (so that she wouldn't recognize him), how is it that he shows up in the photo? If he was un-glamoured the whole time, how did Beauty NOT see him? (she claims to have not recognized anyone with Lily, which would include Crane).
I'm almost 100 percent sure that it is indeed the real Crane in the photo. I'm playing the episode a second time and when Crane asked about what I found on the body I told him that the girl (glamoured lily) was using muddy drugs.
He said that she could've caught a disease from that with a worried face while Bigby and Snow gave him a look. He was worried that he had caught something from her.
I still don't think he is the killer though.
Nice Find!
Interesting, I'll have to replay that section with Crane, to see his facial expression.