You contradicted yourself. Raw force is on Bigby's side. Slamming someone to the wall requires more strength. They were always fighting in the middle of the hallway. Using the pipe is a lot easier than throwing someone from the middle of a hallway to a wall.
meh - sure he used the pipe but it required more brute force - Slamming against the wall doesn't, if you wait till right moment ,when the balance is off and push someone it's pretty easy - especially with bigbys strength.
You contradicted yourself. Raw force is on Bigby's side. Slamming someone to the wall requires more strength. They were always fighting in the… more middle of the hallway. Using the pipe is a lot easier than throwing someone from the middle of a hallway to a wall.
"Arguing over what fictional muscles are stronger based is about as meaningful as arguing over whose illustrative breasts are more aesthetically pleasing. c:"
Breasts are strictly OPINION and strength can actually be compared using FACTS. Maybe you should take your own advice, "Please, take it to personal messages, Arrowify. Your gripes with another users actions are technically spam and not directly related to the conversation at hand" and either PM me or start your own discussion on this topic. The overall opinion on this discussion is largely in the Bigby camp so if you still want to debate that beast is stronger, please continue to use facts.
I would say bigby is the strongest fable in fabletown as honestly he wouldn't be the sheriff if he wasn't. He has the job to keep EVERYONE out of trouble and has to crack skulls when needed, if he was weaker than them then he wouldn't be able to do that now would he? (Also back in the beginning of episode one it is stated that everyone is afraid of bigby because of his past so that also supports my claim. They are afraid of him for a reason.) While I do think beast is pretty strong I can't see him ever overpowering bigby as from what I seen in the comics bigby is the strongest (Beast may be close in terms of raw strength but he still isn't as strong as bigby is.) and bigby is skilled at fighting so hands down in a fight against anyone 1x1 bigby would win. Those that doubt his strength should replay episode 1 and rip grens arm off as that isn't something just anyone can do. If you look at them as they were gren looked physically stronger than bigby and did toss bigby around the place but when bigby got pissed gren got his ass handed to him and his arm ripped off and in episode 2 he became more tame around bigby and less douchebaggy I guess is the best way I can describe it.
I agree with you that strength can be compared using facts but strength alone doesn't win fights and that is why beast will never win against bigby as beast gets too hot-headed and doesn't fight calmly or "Smart" if you want to say that. Bigby on the other hand fights with both bronze and brains so he has the best of both worlds on his side so yeah I am on the Bigby camp as you call it xD.
"Arguing over what fictional muscles are stronger based is about as meaningful as arguing over whose illustrative breasts are more aesthetical… morely pleasing. c:"
Breasts are strictly OPINION and strength can actually be compared using FACTS. Maybe you should take your own advice, "Please, take it to personal messages, Arrowify. Your gripes with another users actions are technically spam and not directly related to the conversation at hand" and either PM me or start your own discussion on this topic. The overall opinion on this discussion is largely in the Bigby camp so if you still want to debate that beast is stronger, please continue to use facts.
I agree with you that strength can be compared using facts but strength alone doesn't win fights and that is why beast will never win against … morebigby as beast gets too hot-headed and doesn't fight calmly or "Smart" if you want to say that. Bigby on the other hand fights with both bronze and brains so he has the best of both worlds on his side so yeah I am on the Bigby camp as you call it xD.
Yeah that is true, people tend to ignore facts when the facts are against them which is sad. I tend to go by facts and not emotions and all the facts prove that bigby is the stronger of the two although I wish I didn't have to fight beast (At least not in that way.. I would like to fight him if the conditions were a bit different but in episode 2 we didn't really have a reason to be fighting him as it was just a misunderstanding and ttg could of given some more dialog so we could possibly avoid the fight altogether. Like make an dialog option available if you told beast you saw beauty back in the beginning of episode 1 so that you can avoid the fight.. but yeah that isn't really on topic with this thread xD
To be fair on that sheriff argument. Beast becomes sheriff in the comics. Beast also could have ripped Gren's arm off if he wanted to, but yeah I agree Bigby would win.
I would say bigby is the strongest fable in fabletown as honestly he wouldn't be the sheriff if he wasn't. He has the job to keep EVERYONE out… more of trouble and has to crack skulls when needed, if he was weaker than them then he wouldn't be able to do that now would he? (Also back in the beginning of episode one it is stated that everyone is afraid of bigby because of his past so that also supports my claim. They are afraid of him for a reason.) While I do think beast is pretty strong I can't see him ever overpowering bigby as from what I seen in the comics bigby is the strongest (Beast may be close in terms of raw strength but he still isn't as strong as bigby is.) and bigby is skilled at fighting so hands down in a fight against anyone 1x1 bigby would win. Those that doubt his strength should replay episode 1 and rip grens arm off as that isn't something just anyone can do. If you look at them as they were gren looked physically stronger than bigb… [view original content]
"Arguing over what fictional muscles are stronger based is about as meaningful as arguing over whose illustrative breasts are more aesthetical… morely pleasing. c:"
Breasts are strictly OPINION and strength can actually be compared using FACTS. Maybe you should take your own advice, "Please, take it to personal messages, Arrowify. Your gripes with another users actions are technically spam and not directly related to the conversation at hand" and either PM me or start your own discussion on this topic. The overall opinion on this discussion is largely in the Bigby camp so if you still want to debate that beast is stronger, please continue to use facts.
Yeah that is true. But yeah I didn't say Beast couldn't rip gren's arm off. I just made a point that it takes a lot of strength to do that as it isn't something just anyone can do.
To be fair on that sheriff argument. Beast becomes sheriff in the comics. Beast also could have ripped Gren's arm off if he wanted to, but yeah I agree Bigby would win.
You do realize humans are capable of making their own choices and are not animals that act on instinct (There are cases when we do act on our instincts but not very often and our instincts are quite different than an animals.) There are those of us that like people for who they are and not based on superficial things as appearances.
Strength is something that can be proven, physical attraction cannot be explained by science or anything else. You either are attracted to them or your not, forcing yourself doesn't do anything other than cover up your real feelings. Oh and FYI if you force yourself into something you will become very very depressed/miserable later on in life. It happens when homosexuals pretend to be straight because of how society is. Their bodies obviously enjoy the sex as they wouldn't be having kids if they didn't but that is something they cannot control, if someone you don't find attractive starts feeling you up and fucking you then your body would naturally react to it against your will, so because those who get raped are human and their bodies react to it against their will that means they enjoyed it all along and wanted it to happen? NO..
Why are you blabbering on and on about attractiveness anyways? We are talking about strength not attractiveness. Strength is something that can be scientifically proven whilst physical attractiveness is merely an opinion.
Now feel free to hit dislike on this comment. But what you said isn't correct and is just your opinion, I stated my opinion on the matter and that is all.
You do realize humans are capable of making their own choices and are not animals that act on instinct (There are cases when we do act on our … moreinstincts but not very often and our instincts are quite different than an animals.) There are those of us that like people for who they are and not based on superficial things as appearances.
Strength is something that can be proven, physical attraction cannot be explained by science or anything else. You either are attracted to them or your not, forcing yourself doesn't do anything other than cover up your real feelings. Oh and FYI if you force yourself into something you will become very very depressed/miserable later on in life. It happens when homosexuals pretend to be straight because of how society is. Their bodies obviously enjoy the sex as they wouldn't be having kids if they didn't but that is something they cannot control, if someone you don't find attractive starts feeling you up and fucking … [view original content]
"Please, take it to personal messages, Arrowify. Your gripes with another users actions are technically spam and not directly related to the conversation at hand." You need to stop going on about unrelated topics, because it's getting annoying. I'd advise you to start your own discussion, or PM someone but you're obviously very stubborn and I can't think of a reason someone would want to debate a topic with you.
"But if you end up enjoying it during such an experiment, who is to say that wasn't already in your nature/genes anyway? "
Is what you said. The rest of what I said is just my opinion on your oh we like people for superficial reasons bs. Should you even be questioning others intelligence? Honestly you don't know me so you can't really judge others intelligence and those that do that honestly aren't as intelligent as they think they are as what you said was full of bs that is just your opinion and I stated mine and you act childish and question my intelligence with that stupid gif. That says a lot about your character. We are talking about strength not superficial things as attractiveness which is opinion orientated.
Yeah I agree, this thread is about who is stronger and Data7 goes and talks about unrelated stuff (some of which is offensive and did upset me into making a comment about things Data7 said.) Just because Data7 can't accept the facts that Bigby is stronger than beast and always will be.
And it isn't possible to debate with someone who edits their comments and takes out the parts that make them look bad. I saw some of Data7's previous posts and all of them had X's there instead of what Data7 originally posted which received dislikes.
I am always willing to have a nice and friendly debate with people but Data7 I can't see myself being able to have an intelligent conversation with as Data7 tends to post purely on opinions and not on facts and when things don't go Data7's way then Data7 goes and edits the comments and replaces the original content with an X obviously because the original content would make Data7's reputation decrease and get Data7 a lot more dislikes than her posts already have and I am sure it isn't just the trolls that hit that dislike button as from the response I got from Data7 it seemed to me like those dislikes were given for a reason (one I cannot see as the original content was replaced with an X.)
Anyways I am sorry to be getting off topic and ranting. I know I shouldn't be doing this but sometimes things need to be said even if it will get me a lot of dislikes.
I will always believe that Bigby is stronger than beast and there are many facts that prove it, unless some facts come to light that can prove otherwise that will remain my opinion.
"Please, take it to personal messages, Arrowify. Your gripes with another users actions are technically spam and not directly related to the c… moreonversation at hand." You need to stop going on about unrelated topics, because it's getting annoying. I'd advise you to start your own discussion, or PM someone but you're obviously very stubborn and I can't think of a reason someone would want to debate a topic with you.
Yeah I agree, this thread is about who is stronger and Data7 goes and talks about unrelated stuff (some of which is offensive and did upset me… more into making a comment about things Data7 said.) Just because Data7 can't accept the facts that Bigby is stronger than beast and always will be.
And it isn't possible to debate with someone who edits their comments and takes out the parts that make them look bad. I saw some of Data7's previous posts and all of them had X's there instead of what Data7 originally posted which received dislikes.
I am always willing to have a nice and friendly debate with people but Data7 I can't see myself being able to have an intelligent conversation with as Data7 tends to post purely on opinions and not on facts and when things don't go Data7's way then Data7 goes and edits the comments and replaces the original content with an X obviously because the original content would make Data7's reputation decrease and get Dat… [view original content]
Yeah I agree 100%. Friendly discussions are what forums are for. I personally am loving Bigby as a character as he is a boss and I am so glad he is strong. I am glad I paid for the season pass of this game and am planning on re-reading the comics as ttg did a good job at making us want to know more about the story and I haven't read the comics for a long time and it isn't as clear to me as it used to be luckily I bought them all xD
I am wondering how far TTG will go with bigby though as from the previews we saw bigby in a more wolvish form and I am wondering when that is actually going to happen as I thought it was going to happen in episode 2. I hope we can see Bigby's true form as that would be amazing, and I would hope an epic fight happens to make him go into that form.
I don't just remove the posts that may or may not make me look bad. But thanks for assuming you know what my situation is. I'm still trying to find all of my posts in order to delete them.
I don't want to share my input with this community any longer; hence editing my posts into ✖'s
Anyways I am sorry to be getting off topic and ranting. I know I shouldn't be doing this but sometimes things need to be said even if it will get me a lot of dislikes. c:
Yeah I agree, this thread is about who is stronger and Data7 goes and talks about unrelated stuff (some of which is offensive and did upset me… more into making a comment about things Data7 said.) Just because Data7 can't accept the facts that Bigby is stronger than beast and always will be.
And it isn't possible to debate with someone who edits their comments and takes out the parts that make them look bad. I saw some of Data7's previous posts and all of them had X's there instead of what Data7 originally posted which received dislikes.
I am always willing to have a nice and friendly debate with people but Data7 I can't see myself being able to have an intelligent conversation with as Data7 tends to post purely on opinions and not on facts and when things don't go Data7's way then Data7 goes and edits the comments and replaces the original content with an X obviously because the original content would make Data7's reputation decrease and get Dat… [view original content]
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You contradicted yourself. Raw force is on Bigby's side. Slamming someone to the wall requires more strength. They were always fighting in the middle of the hallway. Using the pipe is a lot easier than throwing someone from the middle of a hallway to a wall.
Ok maybe but.......... data7 a little help here?.
He wasn't holding back from going to his full form. Beauty is very frustrated and a bit angry with Beast. Beauty would have to be outraged.
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"Arguing over what fictional muscles are stronger based is about as meaningful as arguing over whose illustrative breasts are more aesthetically pleasing. c:"
Breasts are strictly OPINION and strength can actually be compared using FACTS. Maybe you should take your own advice, "Please, take it to personal messages, Arrowify. Your gripes with another users actions are technically spam and not directly related to the conversation at hand" and either PM me or start your own discussion on this topic. The overall opinion on this discussion is largely in the Bigby camp so if you still want to debate that beast is stronger, please continue to use facts.
I would say bigby is the strongest fable in fabletown as honestly he wouldn't be the sheriff if he wasn't. He has the job to keep EVERYONE out of trouble and has to crack skulls when needed, if he was weaker than them then he wouldn't be able to do that now would he? (Also back in the beginning of episode one it is stated that everyone is afraid of bigby because of his past so that also supports my claim. They are afraid of him for a reason.) While I do think beast is pretty strong I can't see him ever overpowering bigby as from what I seen in the comics bigby is the strongest (Beast may be close in terms of raw strength but he still isn't as strong as bigby is.) and bigby is skilled at fighting so hands down in a fight against anyone 1x1 bigby would win. Those that doubt his strength should replay episode 1 and rip grens arm off as that isn't something just anyone can do. If you look at them as they were gren looked physically stronger than bigby and did toss bigby around the place but when bigby got pissed gren got his ass handed to him and his arm ripped off and in episode 2 he became more tame around bigby and less douchebaggy I guess is the best way I can describe it.
I agree with you that strength can be compared using facts but strength alone doesn't win fights and that is why beast will never win against bigby as beast gets too hot-headed and doesn't fight calmly or "Smart" if you want to say that. Bigby on the other hand fights with both bronze and brains so he has the best of both worlds on his side so yeah I am on the Bigby camp as you call it xD.
I absolutely agree but this topic was dedicated to who's stronger, and Bigby is
Yeah that is true, people tend to ignore facts when the facts are against them which is sad. I tend to go by facts and not emotions and all the facts prove that bigby is the stronger of the two although I wish I didn't have to fight beast (At least not in that way.. I would like to fight him if the conditions were a bit different but in episode 2 we didn't really have a reason to be fighting him as it was just a misunderstanding and ttg could of given some more dialog so we could possibly avoid the fight altogether. Like make an dialog option available if you told beast you saw beauty back in the beginning of episode 1 so that you can avoid the fight.. but yeah that isn't really on topic with this thread xD
To be fair on that sheriff argument. Beast becomes sheriff in the comics. Beast also could have ripped Gren's arm off if he wanted to, but yeah I agree Bigby would win.
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Yeah that is true. But yeah I didn't say Beast couldn't rip gren's arm off. I just made a point that it takes a lot of strength to do that as it isn't something just anyone can do.
I'm sorry that Bigby is stronger.
You do realize humans are capable of making their own choices and are not animals that act on instinct (There are cases when we do act on our instincts but not very often and our instincts are quite different than an animals.) There are those of us that like people for who they are and not based on superficial things as appearances.
Strength is something that can be proven, physical attraction cannot be explained by science or anything else. You either are attracted to them or your not, forcing yourself doesn't do anything other than cover up your real feelings. Oh and FYI if you force yourself into something you will become very very depressed/miserable later on in life. It happens when homosexuals pretend to be straight because of how society is. Their bodies obviously enjoy the sex as they wouldn't be having kids if they didn't but that is something they cannot control, if someone you don't find attractive starts feeling you up and fucking you then your body would naturally react to it against your will, so because those who get raped are human and their bodies react to it against their will that means they enjoyed it all along and wanted it to happen? NO..
Why are you blabbering on and on about attractiveness anyways? We are talking about strength not attractiveness. Strength is something that can be scientifically proven whilst physical attractiveness is merely an opinion.
Now feel free to hit dislike on this comment. But what you said isn't correct and is just your opinion, I stated my opinion on the matter and that is all.
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"Please, take it to personal messages, Arrowify. Your gripes with another users actions are technically spam and not directly related to the conversation at hand." You need to stop going on about unrelated topics, because it's getting annoying. I'd advise you to start your own discussion, or PM someone but you're obviously very stubborn and I can't think of a reason someone would want to debate a topic with you.
"But if you end up enjoying it during such an experiment, who is to say that wasn't already in your nature/genes anyway? "
Is what you said. The rest of what I said is just my opinion on your oh we like people for superficial reasons bs. Should you even be questioning others intelligence? Honestly you don't know me so you can't really judge others intelligence and those that do that honestly aren't as intelligent as they think they are as what you said was full of bs that is just your opinion and I stated mine and you act childish and question my intelligence with that stupid gif. That says a lot about your character. We are talking about strength not superficial things as attractiveness which is opinion orientated.
Yeah I agree, this thread is about who is stronger and Data7 goes and talks about unrelated stuff (some of which is offensive and did upset me into making a comment about things Data7 said.) Just because Data7 can't accept the facts that Bigby is stronger than beast and always will be.
And it isn't possible to debate with someone who edits their comments and takes out the parts that make them look bad. I saw some of Data7's previous posts and all of them had X's there instead of what Data7 originally posted which received dislikes.
I am always willing to have a nice and friendly debate with people but Data7 I can't see myself being able to have an intelligent conversation with as Data7 tends to post purely on opinions and not on facts and when things don't go Data7's way then Data7 goes and edits the comments and replaces the original content with an X obviously because the original content would make Data7's reputation decrease and get Data7 a lot more dislikes than her posts already have and I am sure it isn't just the trolls that hit that dislike button as from the response I got from Data7 it seemed to me like those dislikes were given for a reason (one I cannot see as the original content was replaced with an X.)
Anyways I am sorry to be getting off topic and ranting. I know I shouldn't be doing this but sometimes things need to be said even if it will get me a lot of dislikes.
I will always believe that Bigby is stronger than beast and there are many facts that prove it, unless some facts come to light that can prove otherwise that will remain my opinion.
Completely my thoughts! Hey Data7 look! We're having a friendly discussion without deleting our original posts! I'd take some notes!
Yeah I agree 100%. Friendly discussions are what forums are for. I personally am loving Bigby as a character as he is a boss and I am so glad he is strong. I am glad I paid for the season pass of this game and am planning on re-reading the comics as ttg did a good job at making us want to know more about the story and I haven't read the comics for a long time and it isn't as clear to me as it used to be luckily I bought them all xD
I am wondering how far TTG will go with bigby though as from the previews we saw bigby in a more wolvish form and I am wondering when that is actually going to happen as I thought it was going to happen in episode 2. I hope we can see Bigby's true form as that would be amazing, and I would hope an epic fight happens to make him go into that form.
I don't just remove the posts that may or may not make me look bad. But thanks for assuming you know what my situation is. I'm still trying to find all of my posts in order to delete them.
I don't want to share my input with this community any longer; hence editing my posts into ✖'s
Have equaltstrength but being a detective think bigby be more intelligent and more mentally stable as stated in game beast is very sensitive
I thought that was a cool scene lol
He doesn't need to do that anymore lol