My thoughts on 'George'
Hi! This is my first time posting here, so I hope you enjoy this thread.
In 'A House Divided' Carver (If you ask him for his name) replies with "George". Now, from what the Carlos and the others say, his name is actually William (Or Bill). Then, near the ending of the episode, Carver suggests that Alvin and the others used to know a guy named George, also saying that Alvin "killed him in cold blood". What did Alvin have against George? Maybe he's the father of Rebecca's child? It seems that when asked their name, both characters (Carver and Clementine) can give the name of a deceased friend. A little odd, but that's not what I'm going to talk about.
What I'm thinking is that George is the reason the group left Carver's base in the first place, before Clementine even showed up. Perhaps George was a friend of Carver, and once he died, he 'snapped' and set out to kill Alvin/find Rebecca after they escaped. But for all we know, maybe Alvin didn't actually kill George, but he merely didn't help him when a walker was attacking him or something like that. Whatever happens, Carver clearly sees Alvin as the one to blame for George's death. But I disagree with this. Alvin definitely doesn't seem like he's killed, and no one mentions it besides Carver.
So who is George? Why did Alvin kill him (If he did)? Is he the reason the group decided to escape Carver? No one really knows right now (Except Telltale).
There is another interesting thing here though. At the end of the episode again, Carver says that Luke has "finally cut and run". He also says to the group, "I warned you not to follow him, and look where he's led you". So, even though Alvin 'killed' George, Luke is the one that suggested that they should leave? This is a bit odd. Maybe he also had something to do with the death of George. Luke was probably an enemy of Carver as well, and he managed to get to group to side with him so that they could escape. Is Luke really as good as we think? There are clearly tensions between these two 'factions' (Luke's group and Carver's group), but who is more in the right? Besides his guards, Carver must have more people at his base, maybe the '400 Days' survivors?
Anyway, that's just a bunch of stuff that's been on my mind and I've wanted to get it off of my chest. Thanks for reading!
Comments
It seems simple enough based on the dialogue of episode 2: George was Alvin's friend, but he was a supporter of Carver and refused to allow the group to leave, perhaps even threatening to report them. So rather than risk it, Alvin killed him. Using his name in pursuit of the group just seems like a poetic decision on Carver's part.
Interesting thread. I don't trust Carver's words, so like you said Alvin might've not killed George with his own hands, maybe he left him to die by a walker, who knows. Alvin seems mellow, I find it hard to believe that he'd murder someone in cold blood unless he absolutely had to, but maybe he has a dark side. I find it interesting that Carver uses George's name while at the cabin with Clem.. huh. It's even funnier that Clem can use the name of one of her dead friends too. Maybe there's a similarity with how both George & Carley died and TT put that in to foreshadow it? idk
We don't know much about the cabin group, George, Luke, or Carver right now, so any theories are mostly wild guesses with little foundation. It definitely seems like the cabin group had a tough time getting out of Carver's settlement though. I wonder what's really so bad about the place, obviously they were being forced to stay, but there must be something else that made them need to leave.
I just thought of something. Maybe George is connected to Wyatt and Eddie? Remember when they were on the run from Nate because they killed someone by accident? just a crazy theory to throw out there.
I was getting vibes all throughout ep2 that Alvin was a murderer. First Nick saying that Alvin would've taken the shot, then Rebecca saying if he finds out the baby isn't his he would kill her. Add that in with what Carver said about George and maybe Alvin is a more complex character then we think?
ooo wow, that would be an interesting development and kind of scary, but cool nonetheless. I actually hope TTG goes that direction with Alvin's character now.
I agree! Because at first impression he seems like a really good guy but now that you pointed it out, he seems more complex.