Homsar canonicity (huge spoilers)
The development with Homesar in this game is incredible. It shows he was not a crazy schizophrenic idiot. I'm pretty sure TBC wrote that bit (I hope so) but is it canon? Do you think they will reference it in the cartoon?
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It's kind of depressing, if you think about it...
Like most of the episode, it was a back and forth between the design team (notably this episode's lead writer/director Chuck Jordan) and the Chaps. I think that the Homsar Reservation was either the Chaps idea, or they were into it when it was proposed. Either way, basically everything in these episodes has at least passed by their desk (and was recorded by Matt!) so it's safe to assume that they accept it in some way or another
It could very well be the case that if different items were put into that hole then a different 'alternative' Homsar would have answered the calling, or there are many Homsar of which he was one, or that Strong bad actually went insane for a while and it all made sense to him.
The most fun thing about fun is having it - don't get too serious with the lore of something that would bite your ass for getting too serious with the lore of it.
-m0r
Homestar Runner isn't, really, this "strict" world controlled by an overarching "canon". I'm guessing that this facet of Homsar will at least stay in the games, if it's still funny.
There is one rule of Homestar Runner canon. And that is, "If it's funny, we'll continue to use it. If it's not, we'll discard it". So it all depends on what they write later. The realities of the Strong House being impossible to faithfully recreate from all the different sbemails shows that rather than make a world, the Brothers Chaps fabricate character attributes and the world around them more or less on the fly, with continuity being a far second to funtinuity.
Anyway, I realized rather quickly that I was going to get to understand what Homsar was saying, and I was pretty excited. I honestly expected a Brittish accent(Crackers, Gromm--I mean Strong Bad!), but whatever.
Think about all of the things English Homsar can do:
Make Coach Z less werid
Marzipan a bit more awesome
Homestar, a better runner than before!
Pom-Pom, a even awesomer samurai!
Bubs less a cheapskate
The Cheat not smoking
Oh, the wonders...
I liked him better when he was 100% Psychopathic. IN fact, before I knew of this, I was even scared before using the last object to make him talk normal:
I thought: "Oh my god. What if Telltale actually makes him talk like a normal guy?" *Horrified look*
LOL, but anyways, it was funny. I really like his voice. ^_^
Well, I can calm some irrational thoughts. There is only one Homsar - as of now - because when you show Strong Sad one of the items he mentions "That could be the key to unlocking the mystery of the Homsar people... er, person."
So we can be certain that there is only one Homsar in the Homsar Reservation. Where Strong Sad went getting sick is anyone's guess. But he must have understood them or they wouldn't have been able to do the job.
Yeah, the poor guy, why did they do this to him? Why TBC?! WHHHYY?!
The way I like to see it... is that Homsar actually is very stupid most of the time, and that what you did with the mysterious pylon (and I loved the Land of the Lost reference there) was that it put Strong Bad and Homsar on the same wavelength until it was destroyed.
I mean after all, since everything has a negative and a positive, wouldn't it stand to reason that if Homestar Runner is an idiot, then an even bigger idiot like Homsar might actually be bordering on the intelligent in a stupid way? o_O
Yeah, I know, confusing logic...
And when you consider that he seems to be telepathic (another sign of a strong mind), the idea that Homsar is intelligent, albeit highly unstable, seems even more likely.
Anyway, good job Telltale Games for exposing the truth about Homsar.
It'd be like having an endless one-way conversation. No one answers, because they can't understand him.
Looking way to deep into this, maybe?
I don't exactly remember where, but I think the Brothers Chaps made fun of canon once.......something along the lines of "Doesn't canon mean anything anymore?". It's satire at its best, the very reason I've been watching these funny/stupid little cartoons for so long.
Its a game! Its a cartoon! Next thing you know Strong Bad's going to take his mask off-oh wait, that happened too.
Take it for what it is! Homsar talking was funny. He threw a few little jokes in there too. It made for a good story. We'll probably never hear of this again, as well it should be.
Good thread though.
Fixed that for ya.
I think it's kind of cool that Homsar is actually very intelligent. One thing irks me, though. Can he understand people that don't float?
Find out in Season TwoOoooOoo!!
If you talk to him while you have some but not all of the artifacts in, he says "speaking gibberish" halfway through the nonsense. So it's pretty easy to infer that he can understand your responses. And because he knows that Strong Bad doesn't understand him (trying to instruct him to use the magic thingamajig), and not knowing why Strong Bad talked "like a two years-old boy", it's pretty obvious that he knows that he is not understood but does not know what others hear from him.
It's funny, because I never recalled a single Valkyrie when I played the original game. It feels like the movie is yet another game-based movie with little or no basis on the source.
Which makes me wonder: Homsar's flag had a cup of coffee and a chipwich on it. But both of those items are from his earlier babblings. ("My name is millions, and I'm the son of a chipwich.", "I was raised by a cup of coffee.")
How would he know about the coffee and chipwich if he can't hear himself the way everybody hears him?
Furthermore, if Homsar is really saying something else, then... Who are Homsar's real parents!? (dramatic music)
I thought it was a pretty cool joke, but it's unlikely homsar will talk like that again unless someone gets the sacred elemental items out of the hole and put's them back in again.
Great tags on this thread by the way.
This makes want to combine a cup of coffee with a chipwich and see if I get a Homsar.
Please don't. That's a waste of a chipwhich
Oh yeah I forgot, its just a hilarious series that shouldn't have things be taken so seriously.
Yes, but that was based on his ramblings, not what he's actually saying. This is truly a mystery for the ages.
If canon meant anything, Homsar would be dead right now, seeing as how Strongbad killed him. But he isn't, and the world is a better place for that.
Kevin
No.Remember that episode of Marzipan's Answering Machine? (I know I'm vague, but here's what he said. He was undoubtedly referring to the incident.
...Why did he start speaking normally to Strong Bad? ...He likes to mess with people's heads.
It shows he's not a crazy schizophrenic idiot while under the influence of a pecular magical rock. I also like to think that if you'd put a different combination of items into the rock, Sane Homsar would have had a different accent.
I know this because we can see,from Strong Sad's view,that Strong Bad is talking gibberish too.
is this an official statement or are you just teasing us?