Was Jane stupid or smart?
So to all who have watched or played the 10th episode, and know what Jane did, what did you think about her actions?
Imo Jane was going to sacrafice her life to show how dangerous Kenny was. She almost got killed in my gameplay, and in other gameplays, Jane got killed for "killing" the baby when it was still alive... Jane killed/would kill herself to warn Clementine about Kenny's dangerous behavior.
I think her actions were very smart at the cost of possibly loosing her life. This really change's Jane's look for me.
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Pffft no. She was placing her life on the line with the hope that Clem would put more of a worth on her life than Kennys. Remember the speech she gave Clem previous about there's gonna come a time when she's gonna have to determine how much Kenny's life was worth??? She wasn't trying to warn Clem of Crap she was just being out of line and manipulative for her own selfish benefit.
She didn't get herself killed to save Clementine, she just got herself killed out of stupidity. If she just said that the baby is alive she could have lived. Kenny would have never hurt Clementine because he thought of her as family.
Thats what you think? Jane even said that she didnt want Clem to interfere so she can see how dangerous Kenny was.
I mean, Kenny was clearly insane. Jane cared about Clem so she showed how dangerous Kenny can be in rage mode.
Kenny wouldn't hurt Clem though, at least I don't think he will.
At this point i think Kenny would hurt anything trying to kill that Baby.
EDIT: Jane survived in my playthrough btw
That's what I know. Kenny never laid an abusive hand on her or the baby, everything he did was a more reckless,extreme version less graceful form of protecting everyone especially the baby and CLEMENTINE, I'm gonna ask you the same thing I asked the others like you, would you feel the same way about Lee if Jane did the same stunt to him????
Change the title. Its spoiler-ish.
No it was painfully obvious when it was just him and Clementine and he wasn't under severe stress he was the same hot blooded Kenny we all knew and loved/hated flat out.
As for Kenny hurting anything trying to kill that baby, well yeah he was DETERMINED not to let the ones he care the most for die every again. Lee would have done the same thing.
Jane purposely provoked Kenny and Kenny has never hurt Clementine, all he's done is yell at her once or twice, and he apologized profusely.
So, I let him kill Jane. She purposely provoked him TRYING to get him to kill her, Kenny didn't do anything like that. So I think Jane is in the wrong, moreso than Kenny at least.
She saved her from the monster insane murderer that was Kenny. And he THANKS Clem for doing it, what more proof do you need people?
Clem and Jane are better off without that monster.
That's different bro. Lee isn't insane, he was a good man and he wouldnt kill anyone if they harmed Clementine. That's what my Lee was in season 1...
Anyway if the baby's dead i dont understand what's left protecting. Question, are you a severe Kenny fan?
Jane really surprised me in this episode. I thought she was relatively level-headed and logical, and I was very happy to see her come back. But when she started arguing with Kenny in the car, I couldn't believe what she was saying. Then she lied about the baby just to prove a stupid point, and she very foolishly got herself killed. Funny, considering how much she's criticized Kenny of being reckless. What a hypocrite.
She should not have been so volatile, and she certainly should not have insulted Kenny when she did. He was already broken, and she was making it much worse. I feel sorry that she had to die, but it was completely her fault.
And I will never shoot Kenny. I wouldn't dare even think of it. He's more than shown how much he cares for Clementine. I'll stick with him until the end.
Definitely stupid. She was correct about her assessment of Kenny's faults in the car ride (even if she has no logical reason for knowing Sarita) and I would have been perfectly happy to abandon Kenny if he were to snap. But I can't trust a woman who deliberately endangers a child just to provoke an unstable man into violence.
As far as I'm concerned, both she and Kenny are better off dead where Clem can't follow.
Does anyone forget you can have Jane live ;-;
Anyway, when i shot Kenny, he said i made the right choice, so i stand by it
Honestly, Jane was a bit reckless with Kenny.
She purposely insulted and provoked Kenny when at all possible, and risked her own life in the hope that if Clem forgave her for making her kill her friend who she's known for 2 years that she would come with her.
When I realized what I did and that killing Kenny was for nothing I rewinded it, which is something I never do.
Dunno why you guys like Kenny, since S1 he was so selfish, now he is a crazy selfish unreasonable extremely violent guy, Jane had a very bad plan but she proved her point.
Sorry im late but i would choose kenny over jane anyday so far kenny has only yelled at clementine which isint that bad so i think jane is bad to choose so i think kenny is the right choice hes abit better then jane he only gets mad when people disagree at times because hes trying to do whats best for his group and what he did for clem and aj was the kindest jester ever kenny in my opinion is the best choice here since jane is unpredictable and very sketchy
Definitely stupid.
Seriously, if you have a knife to your chest, pressing through your flesh, you might wanna mention the baby is still alive. If you wanna die to prove a stupid point. Go ahead. But i won't save you.
Lee would have went through the same lengths and allowed his rage to go mad. He killed the stranger when he endangered Clem didn't he(Or in your case maybe you allowed Clem to shoot him...)? He straight up attacked Vernon if he aggressively tries to take Clementine away DIDN'T HE? He straight up was ready to go off on those cannibals when they first laid a hand on her.
Lee treasured Clem something fierce to the point that he walked through a herd of Zombies to save her, while Kenny also deeply cared for the little girl he grew to know for so long and would have done as much to protect Clementine and the baby.
And after Kenny got off the high from what happened to Jane, he would have STILL HAVE CLEMENTINE to protect someone he never ever laid a dangerous hand on her at all.
No I'm not a severe Kenny fan not at all, but I can understand the lengths he went through to protect those he severely cares for.
Kenny changed after Sarita, he was just slightly changed in his mood when he returned but after Sarita i think he completely lost it. The old Kenny would NEVER and i mean NEVER EVER kill anyone over killing the baby or Duck. He would definetly get revenge and then mourn about it later but the old Kenny would never hurt anyone.
Agreed she was stupid to lie just to get on clems innercircle jane was eh! in my opinion i agree with ur statement you get a 1 thumpsup from me good sir
I chose to shoot Kenny. In throughout the episode, as much I liked first season Kenny, Second Season Kenny was... insane. While I understand his anguish. he was abusing the crap out of Arvo, he yelled at everyone, including Clementine. You all say that Kenyy would never hurt Clementine, but he snapped at her, hurting her with words. If Kenny's pushed far enough, He WILL kill anyone. Jane is insane as well, but not Kenny insane, at least not yet... Everyone in the Walking Dead world will go insane, and like it or not, Clementine would as well fall into that insanity, if she isn't slightly insane already. Hell with all the shit that's happened, I could not help but NOT trust that family, at least the "father". Jane knows of the danger Kenny represents. So when I killed him, he told Clementine that she did the right thing.
Well my reply to u is kenny lost alot in this apocalypse but after he snapped at clem he said sorry and kenny is overall better choice then jane since he took them to wellington he beat up arvo which turned out to be good since he shot clem for no good reason kenny makes mistakes but overall tries to do good for the group hes done lots of good for the group he got clem and aj to safety i think him risking his life to get the group to a safe climate is a good sir in my opinion jane was sketchy and in my opinion was unpredictable alot she set off kennys bad side just to get clem on her side which over all kenny was a honest man i let him kill jane since overall kenny has done lots of good for the group season 2 kenny is still a kind spirit i respect your opinion but you know i have a opinion too so ill just tell you mine above thx you and goodbye until you reply
The stranger would have attacked him..
The writing when Vernon offered to take Clem was bad writing in general, something rare in season 1, but there, so dont even start there.
I know that Kenny loves Clem but still, my point about him hurting anyone who hurts the baby still stands.
She was actually pretty smart but was really reckless at it.
Can't believe she actually trusted me to help her though...lawl (RIP Jane)
Yelling....is....not...the same as PHYSICAL ACTIONS. I think anyone would take a little harsh or mean yelling then being physically hurt, that's why parents nowadays are getting so soft with disciplining their children. ^_^
Yeah, the man who was prepared to leave the girl and baby in wellington, dooming himself was selfish.
And the girl who put the baby in danger to prove a broken man was broken was not selfish. What a great point she got to prove though.
Can you blame him? I mean, anyone that would put that baby in direct danger would have to be mad. Like Jane.
Discipling a child for being a brat and yelling at a child, saying that it's their fault that someone is dead are two completely different things. If I had let Kenny live, he would have made a new relationship with some other woman, she would have died and Kenny would have gone off again, even WORSE might I add? Kenny was spiraling downward to the depth of despair. Imo, it was better that he died, so he's with Katja and Duck.
Doesn't matter he was more than willing to do it.
Ah ah ah, don't hide behind the excuse of bad writing, whether or not it was, it still happened and the point still stands.
Well duh? Would you rather allow him to let people endanger the baby or Clementine???? Parents have that kind of mentality all the time, harm their children they either WILL beat your ass or give you a stern warning, severely endanger them or kill them accident or not AND you're right in front of them fresh after the incident, Emotions will go wild and best believe if noone holds them back YOUR LIFE is on the line...Again...I totally understand Kennys mentality...
I respect your opinion but i still like my choice i made to save kenny in the fight
You forgetting about a big salt lick incident here? He did THAT BEFORE ANYONE DIED and for the sake of protecting people before people got hurt(Even though he was severely hasty) and he also got a severe lashing out from Lily because of it...Remember?
I'm sorry but I just have to comment on your point about Lee. It's different. Way different. The stranger was insane and was trying to murder him, and the St. Johns were planning on killing the entire group apart from a couple, which they were going to eat (Lee doesn't even have to kill any of them, mind you.) Jane, on the other hand, she put her knife away, she was ready to calm things down, but Kenny attacked her, and escalated the fight to the point that he was attempting to shove that knife into her chest. Jane is in no way similar to the St. Johns or the stranger, and in my opinion Kenny was acting the psychotic one at that moment.
Jane also had EVERY OPPORTUNITY to confess especially when she was close to death, trust me when I say while Kenny is a hell of a lot more emotionally reckless(A huge part of the reason people judge him so) than Lee ever was Lee would have done the same if Jane did what she did for Clementine or anyone else he grow a strong bond with.
Jane be like:
Derp.
Intentionally provoking a very unstable was not a very smart thing.
I think the real question is: Is anyone thinking smart anymore?
I'd say borderline stupid. She did it to save Clem, I appreciate that.
Gonna hate to see her die in season 3 though
Didn't she admit that the whole plan was stupid after you shoot Kenny and find AJ in the truck? To be honest, they were both pretty insane and did really stupid things.
People HONESTLY think what she did was to "Save" Clem?? Really???