Did no-one else understand where Jane was coming from?
Did no-one else besides me actually agree with Jane on the matter that Kenny has ran out of road? Or does everyone just hate Jane now?
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Did no-one else besides me actually agree with Jane on the matter that Kenny has ran out of road? Or does everyone just hate Jane now?
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I understand her, I just think she could've told him she was lying while he was bashing her.
I've replied to this incessantly in a few threads... I'm sure you can find them.
Yeah I understand where she's coming from, she's just a manipulative selfish bitch and anyone who sided with her want their Clem to grow up and become just the same way Jane is.
I used to hate Jane for her role in Sarah's death, but I found myself agreeing with her with Kenny's mental state and his violent ways and chose to save Jane by shooting Kenny.
Even with the deception of the baby's fate, I wasn't really all that mad with her. It was a stupid move, yes, but ultimately she was right about Kenny and I just wanted to get away from him once and for all.
In the end I went with Jane and returned to Carver's place to start a new life.
Please don't be so negative, i'm just trying to see if other people shared my opinion
I understand Jane's position better than Jane does now. I didn't at first.... I had hope. Until she destroyed and smashed what little tiny shred of it remained. If I ever encounter her again we'll have a long talk about Kenny, and what she did. It won't make a difference.
And Kenny wasn't selfish? Every time he didn't get his way he'd either try and angrily guilt trip Clem, or he'd just fly off the handle in a rage. Kenny was your best friend up until you didn't agree with him and then it all came back to Person #1.
Jane's plan was moronic, but I can understand why she did it.
Well he is right about her anyways. I liked Jane all the way until she lied to Kenny, eventhough I sided and let Kenny kill her.. I was sooo happy I chose Kenny (it was a hard choice). That being said I stayed in Wellington because going back with Kenny felt like going back to their deaths... Besides Kenny really wanted it and what he did was truly unacceptable.
Perfect ending. cry evrytime
There are no right or wrong answers they are just opinions. I just don't like how everyone is calling her a bi*ch
Yup, my Clem has stuck with Jane and I'm glad. I'm not happy with the stunt she pulled with Kenny, but she clearly didn't want it to end like that. I don't fully understand the love for Kenny. It's sad what has happened to him and he seemed like a nice guy, but he went off into the deep end long ago.
Fuck Jane, she can rot for all eternity as a walker now
Ok i think its just turned from team Kenny vs. team Luke to team Kenny vs. team Jane
That's not true. After I sided with Jane I knew they'd give you options to turn into a bitter untrustworthy person. If you side with Jane, a family shows up at the warehouse you were at previously, and you get the seemingly forced option to "turn them away" in coldness like Jane would. Instead I chose to let them in and they were very thankful. Jane even received a hug from a woman and was shocked but smiled. I sided with Jane because she was right about Kenny. Kenny admits it even if you side with him and go to Wellington.
Jane actually lets them in if you let the timer run out.
Sorry i'm not giving up on Kenny. I wasn't sure about whether she "dropped" the baby or did something to "it" as she was implying it to rebecca once. But when she pulled out her knife and tried to stab Kenny i already knew that i don't want her company. I never liked her anyway, but still felt like shit when i looked away. But i don't regret staying with Kenny.
You clearly didn't see when Clem looked at the guy's gun and made a face about it, or the cold response towards the other kid. She's already becoming unable to trust anyone and that's only gonna bring more problems in the future.
Provide examples for Kenny's selfishness and anything else that somehow makes him deserve death. please
Proving my point even moreso.
I don't know if you were playing the same game as me, but Kenny walked in already ready to fight. She even put her knife away once and wasn't threatening him. He rammed her into the door. He started the fight and kept it going. Everyone was scared of Kenny, even Clementine.
Yeah, Kenny just lost it, so I shot him, but at least he got reunited with his family again (that's what I told him). However, Jane went too far just to prove this, so I left her. I didn't like what either of them did. But I'm glad that Kenny also realised he went too far.
Even though the huge fanbase Kenny has, I have never liked him. Didn't like him in season 1 when he got mad when things didn't go his way and blamed Lee for it. Naturally I didn't like him in season 2 either so I totally found myself agreeing with Jane.
She may be rough, and that plan was pretty dumb. But she was right and I wouldn't want a ticking bomb like Kenny in my group anymore. Jane clearly cares about Clementine, and I believed her when she said she's never going to abandon me.
Yup, that's what happened. Jane was backing down and Kenny did his usual trick of not thinking.
nope fuck her I mean sure I get that she wanted to prove that Kennys insane but she went too far and pushed him more and
more glad he killed I mean whats this a game to her??
I agree about Kenny. It's horrible what's happened to him, but he really wasn't that nice to anyone if you didn't fall into his line of thought.
I don't like all the shit people say about Kenny but what can you do?
I understand why she did it, but I really wish she hadn't. Shooting Kenny was the hardest decision I have had to make in any Telltale game.
Yeah man ,it's unbearable.
I had to stop Kenny, because he looked to have crossed the point of no return. Even in the darkest times of Season 1, he never attacked or injured anyone in the group, including Ben. In my playthrough, he charged at Jane when she put her blade in the holster, and he was attacking her with the full intention of killing her. As soon as he tried to murder her in cold blood, I knew he had to go. Besides, Kenny says that you did the right thing in shooting him if you did, and I felt that was the right way for him to die: Knowing that he did wrong, sorry for what he put them through, and at peace ready to see Kat and Duck again. It was a really hard decision, but as soon as I saw him start to push the blade, I had to put an end to it.
(edit) In retrospect, after doing another playthrough where I let Kenny kill Jane (which feels like I aided in a murder), I'm really struggling to support Jane now. Yes, Kenny did attempt to kill her in cold blood and appeared to want a fight, but seeing the baby actually makes it seem like she was even more eager for a fight. She did appear to want to not fight by putting away the blade, but she could have stopped the fight completely (or at least attempted to) by revealing the truth about the baby, especially when Kenny was about to kill her. The idea that she manipulated both Kenny and Clem in order to remove him just leaves me in a sort of limbo right now.
After Kenny kills Jane, he expresses remorse when pushed by Clem, and he seems to genuinely care about Clem and AJ, especially when he finds out that he's alive. He says that he would never hurt Clem, which I think I believe, although he has hurt her a lot indirectly. And, when you find Wellington with him, he fights to get Clem and AJ into the place, saying that this would allow them to grow up in safety. He leaves with only a bag of supplies, with no regrets and happy that he has managed to find the two a safe place. Perhaps after this he would be able to meet Kat and Duck again.
Seriously, I don't know what to think about either ending. Jane did bring it upon herself, and had terrible intentions. You could defend Kenny by saying that it was a moment of total madness, but he would kill Jane unless Clem intervened. Overall, i think both options are reasonable and, in some ways, totally equal. Either way, Kenny would be happy at the end, and Clem would be in some sort of safety (although Wellington is still ambiguous in this respect). The only sticking point now is whether allowing Kenny to kill Jane in order to get Clem to a safe community is right. I don't think so, but man it's so hard to decide. All I can say is that people who are pro-Kenny/pro-Jane should try the opposite ending.
WOW you must hate Jane so much.
someone reasonable
I think it's because he's the only connection we really had left to season 1.
I didn't like him in season 1, and it only took me 2 minutes in season 2 to hate him again after the joy of seeing him :') But I still wanted him around just because he was part of Clem's original group.
I do understand where she's coming from she was trying to prove to Clementine that Kenny was dangerous but she made a reckless decision in trying to prove it by provoking Kenny which led to a fight and ended in one's demise. Kenny shouldn't have tried to harm Jane and Jane shouldn't have provoked Kenny in that situation to prove a point. I think Jane just didn't understand Kenny like Clementine does and just wanted to prove a point to protect Clementine but she did more harm than good in the process and maybe she did prove a point that Kenny has a very bad way of handling things that's why you get the option to shoot him even after he kills Jane. But I decided to stick with Kenny because I knew he genuinely cared for Clementine and I wanted him to know that Clementine felt the same way.
After what's happened to them it's reasonable to be skeptical of it. It being outsider groups. The fact that he has a weapon just means they need to keep an eye on them. After the woman hugs Jane, they notice the gun in the back of his pants. Clementine looks at it, signals Jane that he has a weapon, and then continues looking towards the man/woman's direction until the kid says something. She then turns to him and turns back towards where the man/woman were walking and says thanks. Although I can see it being a possibly hardened response, she may just be looking at the man still just to keep an eye on him. Not sure yet.
Kenny left Lee to die trapped under a door, not deserving of death for that, just an example of selfishness. However he WAS trying to plunge a knife into a incapacitated womans chest in a fit of rage> Shooting him would be acceptable in that situation, and not in anyway does Jane deserve to die by the way, she like Kenny is not necessarily a good person, but she didn't deserve to get a knife plunged into her chest.
Clementine lets Jane die and spares Kenny if you let the timer run out
Yeah the he attacked after she put the knife away ,then Her death was like an execution to me the only reason she attacked him back is to stop an enraged hot headed man until he is incapacitated it.
The woman was trying to hold his arm but then he hesitated in disgusts a reason to make you cynical , Jane chose for me in the end.
She did scream that it wasn't her fault, to which Kenny didn't stop at all. And she put away the knife. Kenny lost it, stupid idea or not. You don't kill someone for making a mistake, something that Kenny has had trouble with since Season One (Ben).
Which would be the prototypical story ending. I would imagine that people would irrationally side with the person you've known the longest regardless of his danger. This isn't relevant, because not responding in a lot of situations can have a negative outcome.
I was always on Kenny's side until season 2 episode 5 in which i started agreeing with jane