Alright, sorry about the "dead wrong" comment. I think i get what you are trying to say. You are saying is that the way Kenny treated him made him angry enough to kill a little girl in revenge, yes?
However, I still fail to see how that makes him any less scum? Like, I get where you are coming from, but I just don't believe that we can blame other people for our own actions. This wasn't a heat of the moment thing where he lashed out as he was being beaten, this is them about to escape and him choosing to shoot Clem while she posed no threat as revenge.
Besides, if we are gonna say Arvo only shoot Clem cuz Kenny beat him, then we can say that Kenny only beat Arvo cuz he led his group to ambush and rob us. So by your logic, it's not actually Kennys fault but Arvos.
I understand that he was angry at Clem because she shot his sister. My point is this: Kenny was abusing him so much that he just compounded … morethe kid's rage. I saw a translation where he said that Kenny was pure evil. If Kenny hadn't been doing that to him, if he had treated his decently like Mike and Clem were urging him to do, maybe he wouldn't have been filled with enough anger to shoot someone. I feel like he took his anger out on her because Kenny wasn't standing there in front of him. That is my interpretation and its not "dead wrong". Actions have consequences as we have seen over and over and this was one.
I dont hate Mike, and I am indifferent towards Bonnie. Even though they were wrong for ditching the group, they had good reason too. Kenny had lost it. But as you said Arvo needs to die.
Kenny was a bitch to him? Arvo was a bitch to us. How can anyone defend Arvo?
Kid initiated a gun fight that got all of his members killed, BLAMED US, and then didn't respond to Kenny or anyone through numerous attempts. I wish Kenny shot him on the spot.
I felt bad for Arvo. Kenny was a bitch to him, seriously the guy almost beat him to death like he did to Carver, except Arvo didn't deserve … moreit.
Arvo shot Clem cuz he was desperate to get the fuck away from Kenny, and who wouldn't be after what he did.
This is hilarious. Are you joking?
1) Why does it matter if he's foreign ? I don't get your point?
2) Also, why does it matter he's cr… moreippled. He doesn't have a mental disability and his physical disability still allows him to walk / and run
3) Hes a video game character. Not a real person.
4) And he is also still an asshole, and a wuss, who shot Clementine
Bonnie and Mike definetly are, Bonnie never changed her ways, but seriously Mike, what the heck, why would they even think of siding with that Russkie..... wow i went full rage.
Bonnie and Mike definetly are, Bonnie never changed her ways, but seriously Mike, what the heck, why would they even think of siding with that Russkie..... wow i went full rage.
I don't care about them leaving, it's that they were going to leave the whole group without any supplies, and steal the truck that they didn't even help get running.
I dont hate Mike, and I am indifferent towards Bonnie. Even though they were wrong for ditching the group, they had good reason too. Kenny had lost it. But as you said Arvo needs to die.
The hate for Arvo has absolutely nothing to do with his disability or his nationality. People hate him because he shot an unarmed little girl. Shocking, isn't it?
I keep hearing "kenny had lost it"
Why?
Because he punches Arvo?
Hell, I wanted to punch Arvo!
I don't see how that scene classifies as Kenny "losing it"
The game tried really hard to make you see it that way, what with the group's overreaction, but Arvo was a bitch and deserved to get beat up.
I keep hearing "kenny had lost it"
Why?
Because he punches Arvo?
Hell, I wanted to punch Arvo!
I don't see how that scene classifies as … moreKenny "losing it"
The game tried really hard to make you see it that way, what with the group's overreaction, but Arvo was a bitch and deserved to get beat up.
Arvo is a minor character who we really don't get to know well however from our interaction w/ him in Episode 4 and and 5, he is clearly a wuss who is too blind to see that his russian friends use him as a tool. He is weak mentally.
I keep hearing "kenny had lost it"
Why?
Because he punches Arvo?
Hell, I wanted to punch Arvo!
I don't see how that scene classifies as … moreKenny "losing it"
The game tried really hard to make you see it that way, what with the group's overreaction, but Arvo was a bitch and deserved to get beat up.
It's funny when you think that in amid the ruins, Arvo said to Clem "I don't want to shoot anyone, especially not a little girl" and then he just shoots Clem (a little girl) in the next episode! I was sure that Arvo would turn out to be a good person in epsiode 5, that's why I was always nice to him, up until he shot Clem. I guess you really can't trust anyone, I'll make sure to remember that for season 3!
I like him too. I'm disappointed mostly because the finale just turned him into a plot device to show that Kenny was going crazy. The whole … morereason we had the dialogue options to tell Kenny to stop hurting him is so the player would end up hating him even more later on when he shoots Clementine. It was just a cheap trick to send off Arvo, Bonnie, and Mike. In my opinion that was pulled off terribly.
I thought that in the last episode they were setting it up so Arvo and Clementine might become friends. (Some of the dialogue options implied this.) Him hating her for shooting his sister was dumb seeing as she turned into a zombie and that we never got to interact with him to clear that up was even stupider.
I don't think it was done in haste. . . I mean they thought Kenny lost it and they wanted to avoid the inevitable conflict the next day when Kenny was going to argue for Wellington and everyone else wanted to go south.
"I don't want to have to shoot anyone...especially <speaking Russian> a uh...a little girl." Looks like he changed his opinion on that in EP5. Screw you, Arvo.
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Alright, sorry about the "dead wrong" comment. I think i get what you are trying to say. You are saying is that the way Kenny treated him made him angry enough to kill a little girl in revenge, yes?
However, I still fail to see how that makes him any less scum? Like, I get where you are coming from, but I just don't believe that we can blame other people for our own actions. This wasn't a heat of the moment thing where he lashed out as he was being beaten, this is them about to escape and him choosing to shoot Clem while she posed no threat as revenge.
Besides, if we are gonna say Arvo only shoot Clem cuz Kenny beat him, then we can say that Kenny only beat Arvo cuz he led his group to ambush and rob us. So by your logic, it's not actually Kennys fault but Arvos.
He would have ripped his limbs off a la the treatment he gave to Gren.
Arvo is a whiny, little bitch, and Bonnie and Mike are backstabbing, cowardly thieves.
He'd rip his brace leg off.
I dont hate Mike, and I am indifferent towards Bonnie. Even though they were wrong for ditching the group, they had good reason too. Kenny had lost it. But as you said Arvo needs to die.
By not killing him. . .
Youre not talking about when the others were either getting in the way or pulling him off him? I wouldnt call that restraint.
Ah...a hate thread about a foreign crippled kid...
Yea...I'm leaving...
hahaha what does begin foreign or crippled have anything to do with anything I discussed?
Please do leave.
You're hating a kid who is a foreign crippled kid
That's what you're doing , even if you don't mention it.
I felt bad for Arvo. Kenny was a bitch to him, seriously the guy almost beat him to death like he did to Carver, except Arvo didn't deserve it.
Arvo shot Clem cuz he was desperate to get the fuck away from Kenny, and who wouldn't be after what he did.
This is hilarious. Are you joking?
1) Why does it matter if he's foreign ? I don't get your point?
2) Also, why does it matter he's crippled. He doesn't have a mental disability and his physical disability still allows him to walk / and run
3) Hes a video game character. Not a real person.
4) And he is also still an asshole, and a wuss, who shot Clementine
Kenny was a bitch to him? Arvo was a bitch to us. How can anyone defend Arvo?
Kid initiated a gun fight that got all of his members killed, BLAMED US, and then didn't respond to Kenny or anyone through numerous attempts. I wish Kenny shot him on the spot.
Vince: Fuck Arvo.
Danny: Fuck Arvo.
Justin: Fuck. Arvo.
It was about his actions dummy, not because of his ethnicity.
You're making us proud AJ! :')
No, it's:
Clem: Fuck Arvo.
Kenny: Fuck Arvo.
AJ: FUCK. ARVO.
Clem: What beautiful first words.
I was saying that's what he said.
Arvo is a bitch
It'd be fun to see how many matchheads you could fit into Arvo's nostrils before lighting them up with Clem's butterfly zippo.
Bonnie and Mike definetly are, Bonnie never changed her ways, but seriously Mike, what the heck, why would they even think of siding with that Russkie..... wow i went full rage.
I was so blindsided by them betraying the group like that, which is probably why I hate them so much now. I expected more from them.
Yeah like really i liked Bonnie because i thought she had finally sided with us instead of evil.
I don't care about them leaving, it's that they were going to leave the whole group without any supplies, and steal the truck that they didn't even help get running.
She ended up being a hypocrite in the end imo.
I'm curious in the best kind of way.
The hate for Arvo has absolutely nothing to do with his disability or his nationality. People hate him because he shot an unarmed little girl. Shocking, isn't it?
I keep hearing "kenny had lost it"
Why?
Because he punches Arvo?
Hell, I wanted to punch Arvo!
I don't see how that scene classifies as Kenny "losing it"
The game tried really hard to make you see it that way, what with the group's overreaction, but Arvo was a bitch and deserved to get beat up.
That shit wouldn't have happened if Kenny had been allowed to put Arvo down like he wanted.
I'm not an Arvo fan but i kinda like him.
But maybe no one as close as his sister, also who knows what they did to does people who killed members of theur group
Arvo is a minor character who we really don't get to know well however from our interaction w/ him in Episode 4 and and 5, he is clearly a wuss who is too blind to see that his russian friends use him as a tool. He is weak mentally.
It's funny when you think that in amid the ruins, Arvo said to Clem "I don't want to shoot anyone, especially not a little girl" and then he just shoots Clem (a little girl) in the next episode! I was sure that Arvo would turn out to be a good person in epsiode 5, that's why I was always nice to him, up until he shot Clem. I guess you really can't trust anyone, I'll make sure to remember that for season 3!
I agree that the part "Arvo-Bonnie-Mike" trio was cheap and wrapped up pretty hastily to skip to the end part.
I don't think it was done in haste. . . I mean they thought Kenny lost it and they wanted to avoid the inevitable conflict the next day when Kenny was going to argue for Wellington and everyone else wanted to go south.
Wouldn't be surprised if Arvo killed Mike and Bonnie at first chance
What goes around comes around.
"I don't want to have to shoot anyone...especially <speaking Russian> a uh...a little girl." Looks like he changed his opinion on that in EP5. Screw you, Arvo.
I love how he called Clem a little girl even though he's like 2 years older than her.