Which one is pizza and which one is ice cream?
I sided with neither. Then i was going to rewind, but i thought it was too big of a choice to just change it after learning jane's trick. I've rewinded for smaller choices before, i don't know i didn't for that one.
So, i'll probably do things differently in my second playthrough.
Which one is pizza and which one is ice cream?
I sided with neither. Then i was going to rewind, but i thought it was too big of a choice t… moreo just change it after learning jane's trick. I've rewinded for smaller choices before, i don't know i didn't for that one.
So, i'll probably do things differently in my second playthrough.
Seriously, I can't go every other discussion without someone blindly insulting my intelligence or implying that I'm too biased to reason with. Its so annoying.
Now thats a childish comment. I'm not a massive Kenny fan. But because I have defended his actions over the last few episodes, I have been c… morealled insane, rabid, a nutter and a zealot to name but a few. But I'm grown up enough to let it slide.
Haters is this thread title because from experience here on the forums. People hate Kenny. Theres no other word for it.
I agree with everything you said except hating Kenny. I don't hate him. I just hate the shoehoring of him back into the game. His sacrifice to try and save Ben was a perfect end for him! Instead he forces himself back into the narrative so that other characters never got a chance. Why should I care about these new people? Kenny is back that's all that matters. And it just got worse as the season progress. It stopped being he's back to he's the focal point. To finally you're flat out agreeing with him automatically. The most frustrating part of the season was siding with him while watching him get more and more crazy. Jane's trick at the end was so utterly pointless to me because I could see what Kenny was turning into. I was ready to leave him! But no Kenny! Kenny guys!.... I loved this season but Kenny playing such a big role as to make it all about him even more than it was about Clem really bothered me. And this is coming from someone who likes Kenny!
Well... I did like the game, but it was far inferior to season 1 in my eyes, and a lot of that is due to Kenny returning.
He simply took … moreup too much time and space for other characters to be fleshed out enough. "Oh I wonder how Carlos will react to Sarah ... oh Kenny did something that we have to deal with, great".
I know people really like Kenny... I really fucking hate him. I hated him in season 1, and I was so fucking sad in season 2 when he showed back up. Had it been some other guy who was a bit like Kenny, I would probably have played the game a lot differently, but since it was Kenny there was no other options but doing whatever seemed most likely to get Kenny to dislike me and/or to get him killed.
I'm glad that I can now be certain he won't be showing up in my season 3!
(And yes - it is quite stupid that my commentary on the entire season revolves around Kenny - but that is how much he filled up the season, and how much I disliked every time I had to deal with him)
Kenny didnt mind getting people killed even before, Jane didnt want to kill anyone, who hadnt done harm to her. Kenny obviously is more psycho and Jane.
jane tried to kill kenny too,they had same chance for that!!!!!
you shot kenny so you let your clem to become these:
friend killer bec… moreause he was your best friend(you could realize it from their speaking language)
murderer(the worst thing for clem)
betrayer(kenny just had clem and AJ,they were his family)
now what do you want to do with jane??,she ignores new people and she is solitary woman.
i think telltale should make " starved for help 2 " for those who saved jane!!!!!
Well thats the problem with Kenny fans, you dont think rationally, you act on silly things called emotions. People like you would end up dea… mored in the walking dead universe. Jane on and my Clem on the other hand, are perfect survivors.
ps. i would leave a baby behind if i was in that situation.
So was I! We toads think alike! But I played Clem as someone who always sees the best in people and give them a 2nd chance. I was furious… more with Jane but I forgave her. Because thats just how my Clem is. Just like I was pissed off at the cabin group at the start of the season for locking me in a shed and make me suffer through a dog bite. But these new people quickly grew on me.
Kenny didn't want to kill Larry, leaving the woman to die wasn't a stupid plan it would give them time to take supplies and help other people, Kenny regretted killing Jane, Kenny felt sorry for Ben once Ben explained himself, Kenny put Ben out his misery so Ben wouldn't have to suffer, Kenny is not a manipulative liar like Jane.
Kenny didnt mind getting people killed even before, Jane didnt want to kill anyone, who hadnt done harm to her. Kenny obviously is more psycho and Jane.
It was SOOOOOOOOOOOOO not that simple. You Kenny fans are acting like this is a simple black and white matter. I shot Kenny because I felt… more whatever Jane did didn't mean she deserved to die for it. In my playthrough I picked every option that BEGGED Kenny to hear her out. He says "i'm done talking" and he even shoves Clem aside showing he refused to even try to hear Jane out. I hated doing it because Kenny was my friend. But he forced my hand. I couldn't sit there and let him kill someone over a mistake! I just couldn't.
So I didn't do it to get rid of Kenny. And I didn't do it because I liked Jane more. I did it because Kenny was too far gone. So I asked him "why did you make me do this?" and he says "I let you down. Thank you for stopping me" He found the peace he desperately needed
Sorry, but Jane was my best friend, not Kenny. No way I was going to let Kenny kill her without her explaining herself.
Kenny chose to attack a person who had a knife, after that person put the knife down. Kenny is stronger than Jane, and they both knew it. There's a reason why Kenny waits until Jane put the knife away and let go of the handle to charge, and that's because they both knew that the knife was her only chance of coming out on top.
What was Jane supposed to do? Let Kenny grab her and do whatever he wanted with her? Her choices were to be at Kenny's "mercy" or use the knife, and once the fight started neither one was going to back down or think calmly. You can't have a conversation with someone that is swinging at you. Since Kenny started the fight, he's the one I'm going to stop.
Also, if you do nothing, Jane will welcome the family at Howe's so your point that she ignores new people and is solitary is demonstrably wrong. Being around Clem helped her grow and learn to trust people again.
jane tried to kill kenny too,they had same chance for that!!!!!
you shot kenny so you let your clem to become these:
friend killer bec… moreause he was your best friend(you could realize it from their speaking language)
murderer(the worst thing for clem)
betrayer(kenny just had clem and AJ,they were his family)
now what do you want to do with jane??,she ignores new people and she is solitary woman.
i think telltale should make " starved for help 2 " for those who saved jane!!!!!
She doesnt try to brainwash into thinking Kenny is a bad guy, She set up situation where Kenny showed that he is a bad guy. Obviously her or… moreiginal plan was to convince Clementine to come with her, but she didnt know that Kenny would get so violent so it became fight to the end.
Defending Kenny is like defending Lilly. Both (tried)/murdered someone based on feelings, not facts.
yes he did. he brought all those Russians to the group. he has all those fuckers blood, including her sister, and luke, cuz that limited lukes mobility and basically didn't say about a way around.
After Kenny accused her of being selfish and mocked her for her decision to be left alone.
Jane asks Clementine to bring Kenny back from … morethe dark side, she even said that she likes Kenny and thinks that he's a good guy while Kenny is the first person to keep talking about how Jane is a bad influence and how she needs to learn respect despite the fact that Kenny was practically bullying Arvo to death, when Arvo didn't have any blood on his hands.
Kenny didn't want to kill Larry, leaving the woman to die wasn't a stupid plan it would give them time to take supplies and help other peopl… moree, Kenny regretted killing Jane, Kenny felt sorry for Ben once Ben explained himself, Kenny put Ben out his misery so Ben wouldn't have to suffer, Kenny is not a manipulative liar like Jane.
Well thats the problem with Kenny fans, you dont think rationally, you act on silly things called emotions. People like you would end up dea… mored in the walking dead universe. Jane on and my Clem on the other hand, are perfect survivors.
ps. i would leave a baby behind if i was in that situation.
I swear to Christ if I read 1 more god damned post about Jane doing wrong and Kenny being a saint, or Kenny being a murderer and Jane being … morecorrect, that takes 20 minutes to read in what I could write in a few seconds, I'm gonna burst. "Jane sucks, Kenny was a good friend and not crazy. He was doing what we'd all do in that situation, Jane is nuts and provoked him!" This is every thread on the forum nowadays, can't we just talk about the fantastic writing and superb story? The tough choices and intense moments? Where are all the threads about how good the game is, od knows we desperately need some!
Jane was repeatedly encouraging Clem to let people die. She did it with Sarah, she did it with Luke, and had she been around for more deaths she would've probably kept saying "It's too late, give up." Oh yeah I want my Clem to be with her.
I totally see where you are coming from. I agree he took up too much screentime and overshadowed other characters, but still, I adored the g… moreame, especially the last 2 episodes. (Yes, I loved Amid the Ruins, don't hate plz), but it was too Kenny-centered. That reason was why my favorite scene from the whole walking dead, is when the group gathers around the fire and talk about Luke's Birthday. It had equal screentime for everyone, and I loved it. The dialogue, the acting, the characters felt likable, more so than before, it was just a good scene.
Well she firts tryed to defense herself. And even if it happend in a moment, doesnt make it right man.
So it seems u had no problem with Lilly killing Carley? or Carver killing Reggie? Or The stranger killing Lee?
why do we blame our selves for our choices????
it's simple:
if there was the best choice,the game couldn't attract us like this
i suggest not to do this
i'm off now!!!!
Oh, sorry, didn't catch the post you were replying to. My bad. Yeah, it's clear she had killed people before, just not someone that wasn't a threat to her.
Did you seriously say " just because there is evidence, you can't prove that she intended to do so"? She is the one that started the fight in the truck, and she purposely left clem at the truck when she was setting up her whole plan. Jane wanted top fight Kenny, she wanted to kill him too. She is a psycho that had her own agenda and pushed it onto clem to turn her against kenny. Kenny was in the right, so I let him kill her.
No she put it away to make herself not so obvious. If she was too obvious that she wanted to kill him, Clem wouldn't forgive her or side wit… moreh her or at least not so easily. She even later stabs him, so just because she puts it away doesn't mean she isn't going to use it again. That's BS. If she threw it on the ground so neither could get it, that'd be different. If she didn't want to have any fight at all, like I said if Clem takes him off her, Jane should have either backed off more or ran, not try to beat Kenny when he's down. If she was all "stop stop please don't hurt me" or something like that, then yeah she would be trying to stop it more not taunting him instead, thus provoking the fight. There's no getting around it, Jane wanted that fight 100%.
I have discovered when you are in the truck talking to Kenny, and if you disagree with him about lee coming to save her he tells Clem he should slap her. this just gives me more evidence that Kenny could potentially hurt Clem one day. He's Threatening her now, imagine what could happen down the road. This just convinced me what Jane did holds more merit. Kenny could possibly hurt Clem and Jane wanted to show her this.
cuz your point is wrong moron, "she didn't know Kenny would get this violent" uhh yeah she fucking did she did that FOR THAT EXACTLY. all that shit was just to prove a "point" everyone gets blinded by Kenny hate they don't see the shit for what it really is. she tricked EVERYONE. even after they crashed or slid the truck he fuckin asked jane if she was ok, when he could've just jumped to say " IT'S AJ OK" not giving a shit about jane. even though that's not a lot, it shows that he still had, or still had little conscious of caring for her, even if it was a tiny bit. and what does jane do, oh lets fucking leave right away he is out of the truck lets leave. and don't bring that bullshit that im blind because im a Kenny fan, guess what I wanted to shoot him first, I didn't play it first cuz TT fucked me on that one but that's another shit, I was yelling to stop Kenny option, I couldn't see well on the screen and I was too focus on the fight, but I knew Kenny needed to be stopped AT THAT moment. but then everything came out and I knew jane fucked me, fucked everyone and cause me to kill someone I loved. and again ill say to you like I said to many, I guess you love getting lied to, because that is all I get from people who defend jane.
I see it like this. Jane lied yes bad on her but she proved her point. If somthing did happen to the baby you know how Kenny would react. You cant say he would do anythig diffrent.
yeah bad fucking Kenny wanting to save his own SON over some kid that didn't see he walkers around. and save lily who was worse than him at that point and keep her there were it was a danger to the WHOLE group and kids. he wanted to leave behind arvo who brought all the Russians that wanted to steal all their shit and wanted to leave behind a useless piece of shit that basically caused the whole groups death. yeah fucking Kenny is a devil... lol fucking A man these people's way of thinking lol
"Just goes on trying to brainwash Clem into believing he's some evil person."
We all know that Kenny was evil person.
He wanted to kill B… moreen, didnt help Shawn, wanted to leave girl to experience horrible death instead of putting her out of misery, wanted to leave Lilly, Omid and Arvo behind, tries to kill Clems friend (Jane), proposes that they steal the supplies, which eventually cause the death of Lee, the stranger and his family and Ben. Plus he causes the death of Walter, is willing to let Alvin die, beats arvo hard in 2 different scenes for nothing. Thats some of the shit Kenny has pulled in last 2 seasons, and people still treat him as saint.
Kenny already took Duck to safety, but he didnt come back to help Lee save Shawn. What about all the other people Kenny has gotten killed? Dont they mean anything to you Kenny fans?
Kenny is just huge prick
ps. i played both seasons last night and it only made me hate him more. Maybe you should too, so you remember how fucking annoying he was in season 1, before he became violent maniac.
yeah bad fucking Kenny wanting to save his own SON over some kid that didn't see he walkers around. and save lily who was worse than him at … morethat point and keep her there were it was a danger to the WHOLE group and kids. he wanted to leave behind arvo who brought all the Russians that wanted to steal all their shit and wanted to leave behind a useless piece of shit that basically caused the whole groups death. yeah fucking Kenny is a devil... lol fucking A man these people's way of thinking lol
yea I was mad at Kenny for that. " you know what I sacrificed that day" I was like motherfucker ypu didn't sacrifice shit, your whole fucking family is dead what did you sacrifice beside your life that you didn't even want to live anymore. but I understood he also got mad cuz clem kinda was ungrateful for what lee did, now THAT MAN DID SACRIFICE EVERYTHING. and he loves Lee and looked up a lot, depending how you played lee, so I guess he got mad that clem wasn't fully thankful that what they did(from kennys view)
I have discovered when you are in the truck talking to Kenny, and if you disagree with him about lee coming to save her he tells Clem he sho… moreuld slap her. this just gives me more evidence that Kenny could potentially hurt Clem one day. He's Threatening her now, imagine what could happen down the road. This just convinced me what Jane did holds more merit. Kenny could possibly hurt Clem and Jane wanted to show her this.
Arvo didn't cause Luke's death. Bad luck, the walkers, poor survival skills and Bonnie killed Luke.
Ice is treacherous under the best of circumstances. Lots of people in the real world die because ice they thought was safe turned out not to be. It's hard to judge when ice can safely be crossed. There's no reason to believe Arvo knew the ice was too thin. In fact, it wasn't, since everyone but Luke had no trouble. Had the ice been really dangerous, more people would have fallen through.
Luke still could have pulled out if the walkers hadn't been adding to the pressure to move quickly. And had Bonnie not moved closer to try and help, but stayed back and covered him as he asked, he might have had time enough to pull himself clear. And if the whole group had crawled through the ice, which is a safer way to cross ice you're not sure about, instead of walking upright, it wouldn't have broken in the first place.
So no, Arvo didn't kill him, unless you can point to any evidence that supports your claim that he knew the ice was too thin, aside from Kenny jumping to that conclusion. In fact, no one else thought Arvo was to blame.
And even if he was guilty, kicking the shit out of him was wrong. Causing someone pain to feel better is a sick way to behave, and only encourages a person to be more and more violent, as it associates being violent with feeling good.
if jane knew that,she wouldn't be dead.
arvo cause luke death,do you want to ignore it???
are you arvo apologist????he tricked the group and......(i hope you played the game)
It's not that she was ungrateful, it was more like she wished he didn't risk his life to save her. Remember Clem blames herself for Lee's death. I can understand her wishing he didn't come in save her, because she thinks he'd still be alive.
yea I was mad at Kenny for that. " you know what I sacrificed that day" I was like motherfucker ypu didn't sacrifice shit, your whole fuckin… moreg family is dead what did you sacrifice beside your life that you didn't even want to live anymore. but I understood he also got mad cuz clem kinda was ungrateful for what lee did, now THAT MAN DID SACRIFICE EVERYTHING. and he loves Lee and looked up a lot, depending how you played lee, so I guess he got mad that clem wasn't fully thankful that what they did(from kennys view)
It's not that she was ungrateful, it was more like she wished he didn't risk his life to save her. Remember Clem blames herself for Lee's death. I can understand her wishing he didn't come in save her, because she thinks he'd still be alive.
yea I was mad at Kenny for that. " you know what I sacrificed that day" I was like motherfucker ypu didn't sacrifice shit, your whole fuckin… moreg family is dead what did you sacrifice beside your life that you didn't even want to live anymore. but I understood he also got mad cuz clem kinda was ungrateful for what lee did, now THAT MAN DID SACRIFICE EVERYTHING. and he loves Lee and looked up a lot, depending how you played lee, so I guess he got mad that clem wasn't fully thankful that what they did(from kennys view)
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Which one is pizza and which one is ice cream?
I sided with neither. Then i was going to rewind, but i thought it was too big of a choice to just change it after learning jane's trick. I've rewinded for smaller choices before, i don't know i didn't for that one.
So, i'll probably do things differently in my second playthrough.
I have no idea lol. You must be siding with brussel sprouts! :P
Seriously, I can't go every other discussion without someone blindly insulting my intelligence or implying that I'm too biased to reason with. Its so annoying.
I agree with everything you said except hating Kenny. I don't hate him. I just hate the shoehoring of him back into the game. His sacrifice to try and save Ben was a perfect end for him! Instead he forces himself back into the narrative so that other characters never got a chance. Why should I care about these new people? Kenny is back that's all that matters. And it just got worse as the season progress. It stopped being he's back to he's the focal point. To finally you're flat out agreeing with him automatically. The most frustrating part of the season was siding with him while watching him get more and more crazy. Jane's trick at the end was so utterly pointless to me because I could see what Kenny was turning into. I was ready to leave him! But no Kenny! Kenny guys!.... I loved this season but Kenny playing such a big role as to make it all about him even more than it was about Clem really bothered me. And this is coming from someone who likes Kenny!
Kenny didnt mind getting people killed even before, Jane didnt want to kill anyone, who hadnt done harm to her. Kenny obviously is more psycho and Jane.
than why you hate carver????? carver was right about some clems
for the first playing time how do you know that he will thank you ???
it's not good reason.also he was dying,what you wanted him to say????
Exactly my thoughts.
you've your thoughts and i've mine
Kenny didn't want to kill Larry, leaving the woman to die wasn't a stupid plan it would give them time to take supplies and help other people, Kenny regretted killing Jane, Kenny felt sorry for Ben once Ben explained himself, Kenny put Ben out his misery so Ben wouldn't have to suffer, Kenny is not a manipulative liar like Jane.
why do we blame our selves for our choices????
it's simple:
if there was the best choice,the game couldn't attract us like this
i suggest not to do this
i'm off now!!!!
jane shoves her too
Sorry, but Jane was my best friend, not Kenny. No way I was going to let Kenny kill her without her explaining herself.
Kenny chose to attack a person who had a knife, after that person put the knife down. Kenny is stronger than Jane, and they both knew it. There's a reason why Kenny waits until Jane put the knife away and let go of the handle to charge, and that's because they both knew that the knife was her only chance of coming out on top.
What was Jane supposed to do? Let Kenny grab her and do whatever he wanted with her? Her choices were to be at Kenny's "mercy" or use the knife, and once the fight started neither one was going to back down or think calmly. You can't have a conversation with someone that is swinging at you. Since Kenny started the fight, he's the one I'm going to stop.
Also, if you do nothing, Jane will welcome the family at Howe's so your point that she ignores new people and is solitary is demonstrably wrong. Being around Clem helped her grow and learn to trust people again.
are you serious???? do you even think??? wow
yes he did. he brought all those Russians to the group. he has all those fuckers blood, including her sister, and luke, cuz that limited lukes mobility and basically didn't say about a way around.
When did Kenny ever say he regretted killing Larry? I thought that was one thing he was adamant about.
I could say the same to you. What was the point of your pointless comment?
lol sure
Dont read them dude lol
Kenny got more people killed than Jane... Get your facts straight
Well good picture but it dont fits with kenny^^ Also Jane was a friend too.
He didn't want to do it, but he thought he needed to do it in order to save both Lee and Lily, he gives his sincere apologies right after he did it.
I loved that scene too. I thought it was very cute and funny.
Well she firts tryed to defense herself. And even if it happend in a moment, doesnt make it right man.
So it seems u had no problem with Lilly killing Carley? or Carver killing Reggie? Or The stranger killing Lee?
A loyal test. Are you srsly?
I stand by my choice. Don't regret it at all. I hope we get to see more of that scenario.
Oh, sorry, didn't catch the post you were replying to. My bad. Yeah, it's clear she had killed people before, just not someone that wasn't a threat to her.
Did you seriously say " just because there is evidence, you can't prove that she intended to do so"? She is the one that started the fight in the truck, and she purposely left clem at the truck when she was setting up her whole plan. Jane wanted top fight Kenny, she wanted to kill him too. She is a psycho that had her own agenda and pushed it onto clem to turn her against kenny. Kenny was in the right, so I let him kill her.
I'm not so sure about that, but I wont argue the point. I just wanted to know what you meant.
I have discovered when you are in the truck talking to Kenny, and if you disagree with him about lee coming to save her he tells Clem he should slap her. this just gives me more evidence that Kenny could potentially hurt Clem one day. He's Threatening her now, imagine what could happen down the road. This just convinced me what Jane did holds more merit. Kenny could possibly hurt Clem and Jane wanted to show her this.
cuz your point is wrong moron, "she didn't know Kenny would get this violent" uhh yeah she fucking did she did that FOR THAT EXACTLY. all that shit was just to prove a "point" everyone gets blinded by Kenny hate they don't see the shit for what it really is. she tricked EVERYONE. even after they crashed or slid the truck he fuckin asked jane if she was ok, when he could've just jumped to say " IT'S AJ OK" not giving a shit about jane. even though that's not a lot, it shows that he still had, or still had little conscious of caring for her, even if it was a tiny bit. and what does jane do, oh lets fucking leave right away he is out of the truck lets leave. and don't bring that bullshit that im blind because im a Kenny fan, guess what I wanted to shoot him first, I didn't play it first cuz TT fucked me on that one but that's another shit, I was yelling to stop Kenny option, I couldn't see well on the screen and I was too focus on the fight, but I knew Kenny needed to be stopped AT THAT moment. but then everything came out and I knew jane fucked me, fucked everyone and cause me to kill someone I loved. and again ill say to you like I said to many, I guess you love getting lied to, because that is all I get from people who defend jane.
I see it like this. Jane lied yes bad on her but she proved her point. If somthing did happen to the baby you know how Kenny would react. You cant say he would do anythig diffrent.
yeah bad fucking Kenny wanting to save his own SON over some kid that didn't see he walkers around. and save lily who was worse than him at that point and keep her there were it was a danger to the WHOLE group and kids. he wanted to leave behind arvo who brought all the Russians that wanted to steal all their shit and wanted to leave behind a useless piece of shit that basically caused the whole groups death. yeah fucking Kenny is a devil... lol fucking A man these people's way of thinking lol
Kenny already took Duck to safety, but he didnt come back to help Lee save Shawn. What about all the other people Kenny has gotten killed? Dont they mean anything to you Kenny fans?
Kenny is just huge prick
ps. i played both seasons last night and it only made me hate him more. Maybe you should too, so you remember how fucking annoying he was in season 1, before he became violent maniac.
yea I was mad at Kenny for that. " you know what I sacrificed that day" I was like motherfucker ypu didn't sacrifice shit, your whole fucking family is dead what did you sacrifice beside your life that you didn't even want to live anymore. but I understood he also got mad cuz clem kinda was ungrateful for what lee did, now THAT MAN DID SACRIFICE EVERYTHING. and he loves Lee and looked up a lot, depending how you played lee, so I guess he got mad that clem wasn't fully thankful that what they did(from kennys view)
Ew
Arvo didn't cause Luke's death. Bad luck, the walkers, poor survival skills and Bonnie killed Luke.
Ice is treacherous under the best of circumstances. Lots of people in the real world die because ice they thought was safe turned out not to be. It's hard to judge when ice can safely be crossed. There's no reason to believe Arvo knew the ice was too thin. In fact, it wasn't, since everyone but Luke had no trouble. Had the ice been really dangerous, more people would have fallen through.
Luke still could have pulled out if the walkers hadn't been adding to the pressure to move quickly. And had Bonnie not moved closer to try and help, but stayed back and covered him as he asked, he might have had time enough to pull himself clear. And if the whole group had crawled through the ice, which is a safer way to cross ice you're not sure about, instead of walking upright, it wouldn't have broken in the first place.
So no, Arvo didn't kill him, unless you can point to any evidence that supports your claim that he knew the ice was too thin, aside from Kenny jumping to that conclusion. In fact, no one else thought Arvo was to blame.
And even if he was guilty, kicking the shit out of him was wrong. Causing someone pain to feel better is a sick way to behave, and only encourages a person to be more and more violent, as it associates being violent with feeling good.
It's not that she was ungrateful, it was more like she wished he didn't risk his life to save her. Remember Clem blames herself for Lee's death. I can understand her wishing he didn't come in save her, because she thinks he'd still be alive.
It's not that she was ungrateful, it was more like she wished he didn't risk his life to save her. Remember Clem blames herself for Lee's death. I can understand her wishing he didn't come in save her, because she thinks he'd still be alive.