Leave him alone.
The guy is having a rough day. Look at his outburst of inmaturity and written garbage in his last response to me. I neve… morer have enough of systematically humilliating moronic meatheads like him.
Seriously, the hurting will be double if he pulls the same shit on you.
Just like I called him out on being logic's worst enemy.
"Ken is crazy and should be left behind, b- but...do everything he says first."
Look at his response to that, lol. No one has fun like I do.
Just like I called him out on being logic's worst enemy.
"Ken is crazy and should be left behind, b- but...do everything he says first."
Look at his response to that, lol. No one has fun like I do.
I enjoy seeing the horrible arguments personally, even if it is like you're talking to a wall. It's like Belan said, it's an embarrassment, but for me that's funny.
Is it really that enjoyable?
It's mostly me talking to a wall, most of the time.
Unless I'm facing an actual poster that knows how to successfully make a point. Very rare these days.
Is it really that enjoyable?
It's mostly me talking to a wall, most of the time.
Unless I'm facing an actual poster that knows how to successfully make a point. Very rare these days.
I enjoy seeing the horrible arguments personally, even if it is like you're talking to a wall. It's like Belan said, it's an embarrassment, but for me that's funny.
You, Belan, and Lingvort stand out the most for me. I used to get into these big arguments a lot, we've actually had a few, but eventually I had had enough of it. I feel like I've missed my chance by not hopping into any of these great arguments following the finale though.
Why when I'm involved, though?
I find it odd that everyone finds my fights amusing. I don't intend to, lol. I guess my sarcastic personality is just always good for a laugh.
Yeah, though, Belan is a more serious type of arguer. I'm much more sarcastic and a bigger douche, you could say.
Is compassionate the right word? He will usually try to keep everything civil, but, I take my chances to run people straight into the ground. I'm just an overall jackass.
You, Belan, and Lingvort stand out the most for me. I used to get into these big arguments a lot, we've actually had a few, but eventually I… more had had enough of it. I feel like I've missed my chance by not hopping into any of these great arguments following the finale though.
It depends on the person I'm arguing with. When you and I have argued in the past we were always civil, but then arguments like this thread, I tend to be a jackass too, lol.
Yeah, though, Belan is a more serious type of arguer. I'm much more sarcastic and a bigger douche, you could say.
Is compassionate the ri… moreght word? He will usually try to keep everything civil, but, I take my chances to run people straight into the ground. I'm just an overall jackass.
Yeah, though, Belan is a more serious type of arguer. I'm much more sarcastic and a bigger douche, you could say.
Is compassionate the ri… moreght word? He will usually try to keep everything civil, but, I take my chances to run people straight into the ground. I'm just an overall jackass.
Dude pick the choice and Kenny confirms it as he awakes, stop saying shit without even seeing it
Clem: Kenny could have want us to leave.
Sarita: How could you say that, after everything he has done for you?
Clem: Because of that. He would want us to be safe. All of us. That´s want he could say if he was awake.
Kenny: Something like that.
Is this him confirming he wants to be left behind?
Nope. This is him saying, at the most, that yes, if nothing could have be done for him it could have be best to leave him behind. He is not saying that he wants to be left behind.
Dude pick the choice and Kenny confirms it as he awakes, stop saying shit without even seeing it
Clem: Kenny could have want us to l… moreeave.
Sarita: How could you say that, after everything he has done for you?
Clem: Because of that. He would want us to be safe. All of us. That´s want he could say if he was awake.
Kenny: Something like that.
Is this him confirming he wants to be left behind?
Nope. This is him saying, at the most, that yes, if nothing could have be done for him it could have be best to leave him behind. He is not saying that he wants to be left behind.
You aren't being fair, each of those times he said something about everyone being better off without him, he's either just lost a loved one right in front of him that day, or he was sacrificing himself so the children have a safe place to live. And the point about him being in a coma is just ridiculous, when did he even have a chance to tell them to leave him? While he was in a coma, or while he was getting the shit beaten out of him by Carver?
You aren't being fair, each of those times he said something about everyone being better off without him, he's either just lost a loved one … moreright in front of him that day, or he was sacrificing himself so the children have a safe place to live. And the point about him being in a coma is just ridiculous, when did he even have a chance to tell them to leave him? While he was in a coma, or while he was getting the shit beaten out of him by Carver?
You clearly have serious trouble apprehending the english language. He doesn't want to be left behind, like you're implying. He's just so selfless, caring, and genuinely noble that he would stay behind for the safety of others. That line has nothing to do with him considering himself a liability or anything like that. He's simply saying that, if it came to it, he'd put everyone ahead of himself. Is this common sense pattern that hard to follow?
Will you guys stop talking trash now?
Sensitive much? We will, whenever you learn how to carry yourself in public. Insulting everyone who proves you wrong is a garbage comeback technique for garbage posters.
You aren't being fair, each of those times he said something about everyone being better off without him, he's either just lost a loved one … moreright in front of him that day, or he was sacrificing himself so the children have a safe place to live. And the point about him being in a coma is just ridiculous, when did he even have a chance to tell them to leave him? While he was in a coma, or while he was getting the shit beaten out of him by Carver?
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Will you guys stop talking trash now?
That´s all you are putting him this thread, awful excuses. I already explained why your point is wrong. That line is him saying that if nothing could have be done for him it could have be best to leave him behind not that he wanted to be left behind. In case this still doesn´t get through your thick skull, I just going to quote SaltLick305 here:
He doesn't want to be left behind, like you're implying. He's just so selfless, caring, and genuinely noble that he would stay behind for the safety of others. That line has nothing to do with him considering himself a liability or anything like that. He's simply saying that, if it came to it, he'd put everyone ahead of himself. Is this common sense pattern that hard to follow?
LOL DUDE OK.
Is too hard to admit you were wrong, isn´t it? I said exactly that: "in case he would not wake up so soon from his coma."
Waiting for your next awful excuse...
Sorry OP, but in a debate, you should expect people countering your points. Its clear you can't handle any of the points they are making. So why not simply give up and agree to disagree. No need to keep pushing this.
We don't all need to agree with eachother. And thats fine.
Dude if you are smart enough you would see this is IMPLYIED, because no one would want willingly to be left behind for nothing, idiot. Even though you got what i meant you keep nitpicking just to be a prick.
You clearly have serious trouble apprehending the english language. He doesn't want to be left behind, like you're implying. He's just so se… morelfless, caring, and genuinely noble that he would stay behind for the safety of others. That line has nothing to do with him considering himself a liability or anything like that. He's simply saying that, if it came to it, he'd put everyone ahead of himself. Is this common sense pattern that hard to follow?
Will you guys stop talking trash now?
Sensitive much? We will, whenever you learn how to carry yourself in public. Insulting everyone who proves you wrong is a garbage comeback technique for garbage posters.
I'm done with you.
Dude if you are smart enough you would see this is IMPLYIED, because no one would want willingly to be left behind for nothing, idiot. Even though you got what i meant you keep nitpicking just to be a prick.
Whatever, good riddance
Waiting for your next awful excuse...
That´s all you are putting him this thread, awful excuses. I already explained why your point … moreis wrong. That line is him saying that if nothing could have be done for him it could have be best to leave him behind not that he wanted to be left behind. In case this still doesn´t get through your thick skull, I just going to quote SaltLick305 here:
He doesn't want to be left behind, like you're implying. He's just so selfless, caring, and genuinely noble that he would stay behind for the safety of others. That line has nothing to do with him considering himself a liability or anything like that. He's simply saying that, if it came to it, he'd put everyone ahead of himself. Is this common sense pattern that hard to follow?
There goes Mr. Johnson throwing baseless insults at people again, lmfao. You clearly can't argue properly. I've been outclassing you for three straight days.
Garbage thread.
Garbage responses.
Garbage poster.
you keep nitpicking
Oh, you're one of those. You only want positive responses, huh?
I've been superior on all levels imaginable. I'm done talking.
Dude if you are smart enough you would see this is IMPLYIED, because no one would want willingly to be left behind for nothing, idiot. Even though you got what i meant you keep nitpicking just to be a prick.
Whatever, good riddance
Dude if you are smart enough you would see this is IMPLYIED, because no one would want willingly to be left behind for nothing, idiot.
… more
If you were smart enough you would see it doesn´t imply that-that is pretty fucking clear what it means-but then this thread couldn´t exist, so...
he would agree to be left behind in these condition
Are you a idiot? No, really, are you?
In what world does this mean he wants to be left behind?
I still stand up and say you got a thick skull, so I just going to quote myself here:
That line is him saying that if nothing could have be done for him it could have be best to leave him behind not that he wanted to be left behind.
And SaltLick305 here:
He doesn't want to be left behind, like you're implying. He's just so selfless, caring, and genuinely noble that he would stay behind for the safety of others. That line has nothing to do with him considering himself a liability or anything like that. He's simply saying that, if it came to it, he'd put everyone ahead of himself. Is this common sense pattern that hard to follow?
Clem: "Kenny would want us to leave"
Wanting "us to leave", which means everyone but him leaving, is the same of being left behind, isn it?
I still stand up and say my point is correct, sorry.
"Specially when he had just proved he's perfectly capable of raising above insanity to protect those he cares about".
Can I just point out that if Jane hadn't of pulled Clementine out from under the ice (albeit determinantly), then Kenny wouldn't have had his chance of redemption in the final moments of the season because she would have suffered the same fate as Luke. Kenny was too busy shouting at Arvo than looking out for Clementine. Also what do you make of Kenny's actions towards Clem shortly after the Sarita incident? No one can deny he was a blatant asshole.
Kenny's heart is in the right place for sure, but what if when its just Kenny and Clem alone with Alvin Jr, he loses it like he did with Arvo and unknowingly puts Clem at risk. Jane was wrong for hiding Alvin and causing Kenny to act how he did, but I feel Kenny's short fuse could mean the end for Clem and the baby some point in the future.
You are right that Kenny did a lot to help Clementine. Kenny losing an eye protecting Clem from Carver was an amazing thing to do. But let's not forget that Jane was also caring and protective of Clementine as well.
He wanted the group to leave him behind when he took Carver´s beating in case he would not wake up so soon from his coma.
He never s… moreaid he wanted to be left behind.
"Why couldn´t Carver finish me off? I´m not helping anyone by being here.", in the tent after being broken because of Sarita´s death.
Jesus Christ. You just answered your own question. You really would do anything a broken man tells you to do? Okay, go jump off a balcony.
Taking all this in consideration, i think people who are so loyal to stick with him for that far, despite all the clear odds it represents, are blindly driven by emotion.
Who in the blue hell are you to keep assuming such?
This is the equivalent of that:
"I think everyone who picked Jane is a virgin teenager who wants to stick around with a sexy girl."
I went with him because I genuinely care about the guy. Additionally, his last acts proved he deeply cared about both … [view original content]
Dude if you are smart enough you would see this is IMPLYIED, because no one would want willingly to be left behind for nothing
It wasn't even close to being implied. He wouldn't be "left behind for nothing". The whole point was that he wouldn't be slowing them down/ ruining their chances of escaping if left behind in the case that he wasn't fit to travel.
There is no reason to think that he wanted to be left behind in that scene. It was a completely hypothetical situation they were talking about.
Dude if you are smart enough you would see this is IMPLYIED, because no one would want willingly to be left behind for nothing, idiot. Even though you got what i meant you keep nitpicking just to be a prick.
Whatever, good riddance
Can I just point out that if Jane hadn't of pulled Clementine out from under the ice (albeit determinantly), then Kenny wouldn't have had his chance of redemption in the final moments of the season because she would have suffered the same fate as Clem. Kenny was too busy shouting at Arvo than looking out for Clementine. Don't tell me you condone Kenny's actions towards Clem after Sarita died, because that was a horrible thing to do.
Never happened in my game, but, I'm still going to adress it.
Just because Jane did some good things before the final fight, which she did, is not a reason to wipe out everything she did afterwards and forget about it. She did some fantastic things. I don't understand what you're getting at. I've never denied that Jane helped Clem a few times...before massively fucking up. By the way, I don't agree with what Kenny said to Clementine. So, no.
Oh, going by that logic, Clementine wouldn't have made it to the ice if it wasn't for Kenny taking a beating for her. God knows what Carver would've done to her. Therefore, Jane wouldn't have had her "Savior of all souls" moment. Additionally, are we forgetting that it's her fault everything happened in the first place? If she hadn't robbed Arvo, we wouldn't have had to deal with the Russians, the ice, or anything related to them.
Kenny's heart is in the right place for sure, but what if when its just Kenny and Clem alone with Alvin Jr, he loses it like he did with Arvo and unknowingly puts Clem at risk. Jane was wrong for hiding Alvin and causing Kenny to act how he did, but I feel Kenny's short fuse could mean the end for Clem and the baby some point in the future.
If it happens, it happens. She will be in danger with Jane, too.
"Hey, Clem. Look at that blind dude. Let's take all his stuff and threaten to kill him so his whole crew come looking for us."
I'd rather be with a short-tempered, maybe unstabld guy than a manipulative woman I met last week. One thing I know about Kenny, he would give his life for Clementine and would NEVER run away when things get tough. Would you put your money on Jand doing the same at all times? I wouldn't.
Jane cared about Clem. To the point where it became obsessive. Just like Kenny saw AJ as a placeholder for Duck, Jane saw Clementine as the new Jamie. A tougher Jamie. One she could teach how to survive and have the perfect relationship with.
By the way, what was Jane doing in the woods days after she had left? Suspicious.
"Specially when he had just proved he's perfectly capable of raising above insanity to protect those he cares about".
Can I just point ou… moret that if Jane hadn't of pulled Clementine out from under the ice (albeit determinantly), then Kenny wouldn't have had his chance of redemption in the final moments of the season because she would have suffered the same fate as Luke. Kenny was too busy shouting at Arvo than looking out for Clementine. Also what do you make of Kenny's actions towards Clem shortly after the Sarita incident? No one can deny he was a blatant asshole.
Kenny's heart is in the right place for sure, but what if when its just Kenny and Clem alone with Alvin Jr, he loses it like he did with Arvo and unknowingly puts Clem at risk. Jane was wrong for hiding Alvin and causing Kenny to act how he did, but I feel Kenny's short fuse could mean the end for Clem and the baby some point in the future.
You are right that Kenny did a lo… [view original content]
I stayed at Wellington. I felt it was the ending that would finally bring him peace of mind, knowing he finally got the kids to safety. In t… morehat ending, he saw through to what Lee wanted but could not do, which was to find a safe place for Clem [and now AJ].
In a way, he finished the job Lee and later Christa were seeing to. Lee and Christa would have done exactly the same as Kenny did if they were the ones that managed to get her to Wellington, which was to beg her to stay at the cost of their own safety. That gives me a lot of closure.
"You thought about the kids before you thought about yourself, Lee. That's what a real man does." - Kenny in EP2
Kenny was broke, he had issues, but he was still Kenny deep down, a good man. He was never going to become someone like Carver. It just wouldn't work. Anyone who thinks otherwise hasn't been paying close attention to his character.
Sticking with him wouldn't really bring him too much pe… [view original content]
Sorry to tell you, but you're thinking with your heart more than with your brain.
Even though Kenny wanted them to stay in Wellington, so technically if you think what is best for Kenny, he told you himself he wants to know the kids are safe, so going into Wellington will fulfill him like he said.
Sticking with him wouldn't really bring him too much peace since he'd still be paranoid about the kids' safety, but maybe knowing that Welli… morengton is there and that they might be accepting members soon would ease his mind.
I stuck with Kenny. Its the best ending for me.
The odds of another crazy communities are too low, and Kenny, as much as I love him, cannot keep them safe, and I don't blame him after what he's been through, he said that and he knows it damn well.
How do you even know that is a safe place. I rather stick with what i know then go into a situation blind. Besides Clementine loves Kenny, … moreshe didn't want to leave him, and if i did leave Kenny i know that he wouldn't make it. I want all of us to make it. Clems words "we don't leave friends behind."
I'm not trying to say your choice was wrong, sorry if it sounded like that.
I would have to disagree with you here, I would think this would be common in the ZA. Every little camp has to have some sort of Eichmann running it, to some degree.
The odds of another crazy communities are too low, and Kenny, as much as I love him, cannot keep them safe, and I don't blame him after what he's been through, he said that and he knows it damn well.
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Silly me, I can't believe I forgot those obvious signs!XD
Not going to lie, I think it's pretty funny...I kind of want to see what he has to say.
He better don't say much.
It happens to the best of us, just try to be more observant/considerate of details in the future. XD
Just like I called him out on being logic's worst enemy.
"Ken is crazy and should be left behind, b- but...do everything he says first."
Look at his response to that, lol. No one has fun like I do.
Except for everyone reading the comment strings, lol.
Is it really that enjoyable?
It's mostly me talking to a wall, most of the time.
Unless I'm facing an actual poster that knows how to successfully make a point. Very rare these days.
It's generally just embarrassing to read..
You actually thought he had a chance against me in the first place?
I enjoy seeing the horrible arguments personally, even if it is like you're talking to a wall. It's like Belan said, it's an embarrassment, but for me that's funny.
I was chuckling like a mad woman reading through the comments lol.
Why when I'm involved, though?
I find it odd that everyone finds my fights amusing. I don't intend to, lol. I guess my sarcastic personality is just always good for a laugh.
Of course not
I've had similar conversations with the guy. Was tempted to respond to the OP, but decided it would just be a waste of time.
You, Belan, and Lingvort stand out the most for me. I used to get into these big arguments a lot, we've actually had a few, but eventually I had had enough of it. I feel like I've missed my chance by not hopping into any of these great arguments following the finale though.
Watch him actually trying to behave like a rational person once he realizes he made a clown out of himself.
No one should even reply to him. He will just be a broken man fighting for whatever pride he has left.
Yeah, though, Belan is a more serious type of arguer. I'm much more sarcastic and a bigger douche, you could say.
Is compassionate the right word? He will usually try to keep everything civil, but, I take my chances to run people straight into the ground. I'm just an overall jackass.
It depends on the person I'm arguing with. When you and I have argued in the past we were always civil, but then arguments like this thread, I tend to be a jackass too, lol.
Depends how I'm feeling. I can be pretty ruthless when I'm in the mood
Generally I just stay away from arguments like this when I feel like I'm feeling though.
Clem: Kenny could have want us to leave.
Sarita: How could you say that, after everything he has done for you?
Clem: Because of that. He would want us to be safe. All of us. That´s want he could say if he was awake.
Kenny: Something like that.
Is this him confirming he wants to be left behind?
Nope. This is him saying, at the most, that yes, if nothing could have be done for him it could have be best to leave him behind. He is not saying that he wants to be left behind.
LOL DUDE OK.
Is too hard to admit you were wrong, isn´t it? I said exactly that: "in case he would not wake up so soon from his coma."
Waiting for your next awful excuse...
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Will you guys stop talking trash now?
You clearly have serious trouble apprehending the english language. He doesn't want to be left behind, like you're implying. He's just so selfless, caring, and genuinely noble that he would stay behind for the safety of others. That line has nothing to do with him considering himself a liability or anything like that. He's simply saying that, if it came to it, he'd put everyone ahead of himself. Is this common sense pattern that hard to follow?
Sensitive much? We will, whenever you learn how to carry yourself in public. Insulting everyone who proves you wrong is a garbage comeback technique for garbage posters.
I'm done with you.
That´s all you are putting him this thread, awful excuses. I already explained why your point is wrong. That line is him saying that if nothing could have be done for him it could have be best to leave him behind not that he wanted to be left behind. In case this still doesn´t get through your thick skull, I just going to quote SaltLick305 here:
Sorry OP, but in a debate, you should expect people countering your points. Its clear you can't handle any of the points they are making. So why not simply give up and agree to disagree. No need to keep pushing this.
We don't all need to agree with eachother. And thats fine.
Dude if you are smart enough you would see this is IMPLYIED, because no one would want willingly to be left behind for nothing, idiot. Even though you got what i meant you keep nitpicking just to be a prick.
Whatever, good riddance
If you were smart enough you would see it doesn´t imply that-that is pretty fucking clear what it means-but then this thread couldn´t exist, so...
Clem: "Kenny would want us to leave"
Wanting "us to leave", which means everyone but him leaving, is the same of being left behind, isn it?
I still stand up and say my point is correct, sorry.
There goes Mr. Johnson throwing baseless insults at people again, lmfao. You clearly can't argue properly. I've been outclassing you for three straight days.
Garbage thread.
Garbage responses.
Garbage poster.
Oh, you're one of those. You only want positive responses, huh?
I've been superior on all levels imaginable. I'm done talking.
Sorry you got so mad, okay?
lol.
Are you a idiot? No, really, are you?
In what world does this mean he wants to be left behind?
I still stand up and say you got a thick skull, so I just going to quote myself here:
And SaltLick305 here:
"Specially when he had just proved he's perfectly capable of raising above insanity to protect those he cares about".
Can I just point out that if Jane hadn't of pulled Clementine out from under the ice (albeit determinantly), then Kenny wouldn't have had his chance of redemption in the final moments of the season because she would have suffered the same fate as Luke. Kenny was too busy shouting at Arvo than looking out for Clementine. Also what do you make of Kenny's actions towards Clem shortly after the Sarita incident? No one can deny he was a blatant asshole.
Kenny's heart is in the right place for sure, but what if when its just Kenny and Clem alone with Alvin Jr, he loses it like he did with Arvo and unknowingly puts Clem at risk. Jane was wrong for hiding Alvin and causing Kenny to act how he did, but I feel Kenny's short fuse could mean the end for Clem and the baby some point in the future.
You are right that Kenny did a lot to help Clementine. Kenny losing an eye protecting Clem from Carver was an amazing thing to do. But let's not forget that Jane was also caring and protective of Clementine as well.
It wasn't even close to being implied. He wouldn't be "left behind for nothing". The whole point was that he wouldn't be slowing them down/ ruining their chances of escaping if left behind in the case that he wasn't fit to travel.
There is no reason to think that he wanted to be left behind in that scene. It was a completely hypothetical situation they were talking about.
Never happened in my game, but, I'm still going to adress it.
Just because Jane did some good things before the final fight, which she did, is not a reason to wipe out everything she did afterwards and forget about it. She did some fantastic things. I don't understand what you're getting at. I've never denied that Jane helped Clem a few times...before massively fucking up. By the way, I don't agree with what Kenny said to Clementine. So, no.
Oh, going by that logic, Clementine wouldn't have made it to the ice if it wasn't for Kenny taking a beating for her. God knows what Carver would've done to her. Therefore, Jane wouldn't have had her "Savior of all souls" moment. Additionally, are we forgetting that it's her fault everything happened in the first place? If she hadn't robbed Arvo, we wouldn't have had to deal with the Russians, the ice, or anything related to them.
If it happens, it happens. She will be in danger with Jane, too.
"Hey, Clem. Look at that blind dude. Let's take all his stuff and threaten to kill him so his whole crew come looking for us."
I'd rather be with a short-tempered, maybe unstabld guy than a manipulative woman I met last week. One thing I know about Kenny, he would give his life for Clementine and would NEVER run away when things get tough. Would you put your money on Jand doing the same at all times? I wouldn't.
Jane cared about Clem. To the point where it became obsessive. Just like Kenny saw AJ as a placeholder for Duck, Jane saw Clementine as the new Jamie. A tougher Jamie. One she could teach how to survive and have the perfect relationship with.
By the way, what was Jane doing in the woods days after she had left? Suspicious.
I left him in Wellington, I know it's his will.
And he never wanted to die, he told her that he was just being dramatic if you don't shoot him.
EXACTLY!
BBBBUT my opinions you don't agree with.
THIS IS WAR! I GOT MY GUNS AND MY GUNS ARE OILED WELL.!
JANE VS KENNY
If this was a civil war, which side would be the North and which side would be the South.
Sorry to tell you, but you're thinking with your heart more than with your brain.
Even though Kenny wanted them to stay in Wellington, so technically if you think what is best for Kenny, he told you himself he wants to know the kids are safe, so going into Wellington will fulfill him like he said.
The odds of another crazy communities are too low, and Kenny, as much as I love him, cannot keep them safe, and I don't blame him after what he's been through, he said that and he knows it damn well.
I would have to disagree with you here, I would think this would be common in the ZA. Every little camp has to have some sort of Eichmann running it, to some degree.