Never Again will I Make a Thread with my Opinions
I know when I've screwed up and I'll admit it. I didn't propose my opinions correctly, and I'm not going to make it any worse on the people who side with Kenny who can propose their opinions correctly.
So please, Mods, delete or close this thread.
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"So, killing a man about to kill a woman some how makes you morally right? Kenny wasn't morally right to kill Jane, but you are for shooting Kenny to stop him from killing? So, let me get this straight? Killing someone, to stop them from killing, is morally right? And if we're arguing about morality and rationality, lets look a bit closer at things."
So if someone has a knife to my Mother and I kill him I am a bad person?
" If you feel you need to convince me I'm wrong, don't waste your time."
Then if you don't want anyone to talk about any of your points, then why'd you even post this?
You guys REALLY need to know the difference between what's a fact and what's an opinion.
People are arguing that killing is wrong. So killing someone to stop them from killing is still morally wrong because you're killing someone.
If someone was about to kill your mom, go for it, fuck it if it's right or wrong. I sure as hell wouldn't let someone kill my mom. And I don't care if it's right or wrong, someone is not going to kill my mom.
What I'm getting at is, people who use that argument that killing is wrong but kill Kenny to stop him from killing because they think he's morally wrong doesn't exactly make sense.
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Oh I'm not telling people to not talk about my points. I'm posting it because I'm speaking in defense of what I believe. Just like everyone else on here.
Yes. Your whole post is turning opinions into facts. I'm sorry to say this to you, But your post is flawed.
In a game as morally grey as the Walking Dead, there's few things we can argue as fact.
I respect your opinion. That is all.
It does not make you a bad person for wanting to protect someone you love and acting out of anger and fear but killing someone, no matter what, is not morally right.
I don't think you understand his post that well.
Yes. Your whole post is turning opinions into facts. I'm sorry to say this to you, But your post is flawed.
Thank you.
"It does not make you a bad person for wanting to protect someone you love and acting out of anger and fear but killing someone, no matter what, is not morally right."
Exactly.
See it as you wish, But i believe that your portrayal of your thoughts in the OP was flawed.
Yep. That's also you're opinion.
He would never hurt Clementine/AJ directly, that´s totally believable, however he is expert at being an asshole to everyone else and at making enemies, and that´s where he is a danger to Clementine/AJ. The incident with Mike and Bonnie´s betrayal, potentially leaving them to die without supplies, which eventually ended with Arvo´s rage shot, is an example, since they were all events triggered by him.
You don't have to tell what I understand bud
I agree with all of this. But we can also argue that the actions of anyone in the game is going to cause inadvertent consequences for other characters. No one expected that some of the choices they made in Season 1 were going to come back to bite them in the ass when they meet the stranger.
Jane was looking for a reaction similar to Hershel's against Kenny after Kenny got his son killed, in his own fucking house, almost in front of him.
But no, Kenny tried to kill/beat Jane even if he had NO PROOF (he thought Jane killed AJ, "thinking" something isn't proof), Jane was right, Kenny was becoming another Carver, he sometimes just felt the need to kill/beat someone and nobody could do anything about it.
NOT THIS AGAIN!
That's your opinion and I'll just leave it at that.
Not "just my opinion", those are facts.
-Hershel didn't try to beat the shit out of Kenny after he got his son killed. (And AJ wasn't even Kenny's son)
-Jane was trying to look how Kenny would react in a possible scenario (AJ dying was a possible scenario, either accident or intentionally, it was a possible scenario)
-Kenny did think Jane killed AJ.
-Kenny didn't have any proof of Jane killing AJ (it didn't even happen, you can't have proof of something that didn't happen)
-Kenny was doing stuff that reminds me of Carver (Beating the shit out of Carver, thinking everybody else was wrong without even reasoning about it, thinking he was in complete charge of the group's decisions, beating the shit out of a kid)
See it as you wish, But i believe that your portrayal of your thoughts in the OP was flawed.
Well, if you want my opinion, you're not simply stating facts, just opinions. I won't argue you're opinions because you opinions can not be changed.
My thoughts are flawed, are basically what you're saying. It's a two way street.
Just because he wouldn't hurt them intentionally, doesn't mean he's not dangerous. There's a lot of ways you can hurt someone without meaning to. He accidentally punched Clementine in the face when she was trying to pull him off Arvo. That's the kind of thing that worries me,
And I absolutely think stopping Kenny from murdering Jane was a lot more morally right than just looking away and letting it happen.
One respond to rule them all: "K"
I've never said anything about your thoughts being flawed, It's the way you portray them that's flawed. That's all.
I stated twice I do believe Kenny is dangerous. I still don't think Kenny would ever hurt Clem or AJ intentionally.
Are you sure that Kenny would never hurt Clem? Are you sure, what you witnessed with Jane can happen with anybody, if a man is impulsive and violent doesn't mean it requires a little innocent cute girl to prevent that from happening.
Yes, they are facts. Fact is something that is true in an objective way (and the stuff i mentioned in my last comment is true in an objective way). And yeah, i'm always willing to change my opinion, if i wouldn't i wouldn't be here trying to debate with other people with diferent opinions. So if you could please tell me why isn't the stuff in my last comment a fact, i would be very happy to look at your resply.
I stated multiple times in the post that these are my opinions.
Listen bro, an eye for an eye makes the hole world blind, ask Kenny.
But killing a man in order to SAVE someone's life, is totally right, it's absolutely right. Kenny was looking savagely looking for bloodshed and Clementine was preventing a murder on that concept by killing.
I've read that, But, Why the specific targeting for Jane fans who think Kenny is dangerous in the title? Why not just portray your opinion without paying attention to others'?
RANTS. RANTS EVERYWHERE.
Yes, I do believe he wouldn't hurt Clementine based off of the fact that Kenny did not physically harm Clementine for (determinently) killing Sarita right in front of him.
He did not physically harm her because they weren't alone and Clementine did something rational , Kenny back then wasn't thinking straight, his love of his life died by walkers and Kenny wanted someone to put the blame on someone.
I respect your opinion, but respectfully disagree with it.
hahaha you disrespect my opinion.:p
Seriously tough you must argue as my opinion is still right.Tell me why my opinion is wrong.
They sure as hell are everywhere.
LOL this is litterly happening everyday
if you make a kenny thread, you attract jane fans to disagree with you
if you make a jane thread, you attract kenny fans to disagree with you
Because, if I go off on a rant solely about my dislike for Jane, it makes me seem like a biased Kenny fan who believes he can do no wrong. I disliked Kenny at certain points in the story and felt neutral about whether or not I wanted to have my Clem stick around with him.
I pay attention to others opinions because I realize in the end, that's all the ending really is for Season 2. It's a perception of the situation and an opinion on how to handle it. And these opinions I've stated are how I've chosen to choose my ending.
Hm... Are you ranting about a rant?