Best Villian (Poll)
Who do you think, has been the best villian so far?
PS: No, i don't consider Arvo a villian.
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Who do you think, has been the best villian so far?
PS: No, i don't consider Arvo a villian.
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I formally protest this poll on the inexcusable grounds that it does not acknowledge Arvo.
St johns everyone else was either not really much of a threat, we didnt know them, or were just a bland asshole. I actually hated,feared and understood the st johns, they were well done villans
Carver wasn't a villain in my eyes he was one man trying his best to control a large amount of people and because of the presser he was under with the events which happened made him look evil.
Arvo is a villain and he's the worst
Not enough options. And where was Kenny?
ps. Its not up to you to decide who is villian and who is not.
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He means who was purposely written in as a villain.
Typical childish behaviour from Clem_is_awesome.
Carver was written as villian, yet i didnt see him as one. I dont care how writers want me to see characters, I make up my own mind about them, instead of accepting someone elses idea that "this guy is evil".
Arvo
You're right, you don't have to see him as a villain. But why are commenting on something that deliberately ask's "who's the best villain," as in written as one?
Also didn't you say that's not up to others to decide who's a villain, but you decided that Kenny is villain. That's kind of hypocritical isn't it?
Carver was a murderer.
Plain and simple.
He didn't have an ounce of decency in him.
He murdered Walter.
He killed that poor cripple.
He struck Sarah.
He nearly beat Kenny to death.
And he was even willing to kill Rebecca, the woman who was carrying his child.
He was a sick and twisted murderer.
"Give a man power, or put him under pressure, and he'll reveal what he really is."
And Carver did exactly that.
Because i saw Kenny as villain, but he wasnt there.
Its not up to him to decide who cant be villain.
ps. Im not being hypocritical, you just have lousy reading comprehension skills.
The post is discussing about who was written as a villain, not who you interpreted as a villain.
No, the poll discusses who was best villain, from his personal list of villains. When you are making a poll, you have to be objective and neutral.
List of names your lousy poll is missing.
Mike, Arvo, Troy, Kenny, Jane, Bonnie, sam, Winston, Buricko, Vitali, Natasha, AJ and the list goes on. Pretty much any character can be seen as villain.
This is a list of characters, who were created to be the villains in The Walking Dead. These characters were created to be "Evil" you may not seen them that way, but TellTale purposely made them be the villains.. This poll was created to ask you who was the best of them. This isn't his personal list, the characters in the poll were created to be villains no matter how you see it.
Don't forget Clementine! You can play her as a real jerk.
Clementine being evil is determinate, so i dont think she should be included. But she can fill the criteria for being a villain.
You are completely missing the point here... He isnt being objective and neutral... Its his personal list of villains, not telltale's list of bad guys. Is @ps3gamer095 official spokesman for Telltale?
Ah, I understand now. I can see what you're saying, but all I wanted trying to say the poll was just characters who created for obviously supposed to be villains. I read some of your comments I have more insight on what you're saying. I apologize for staring this mess.
I don't know if Nate counts, I mean I guess he kind off is on Wyatt's story but in Russel's it's very ambiguous he isn't exactly good but he does good things and bad things, he's too ambiguous to be considered one.
In any case probably the St. Johns, they genuinely freaked me out and made me feel disgusted, hell I almost puked on the dinner scene, had to pause the game and just rest for a moment because it was pretty disgusting, I don´'t know as sinister as they were they felt pretty real, even what they did kind of made sense and that's exactly why they worked, they did something really awful but you can understand why they do it regardless of how awful it is.
No Arvo, no vote.
A villain opposes the protagonist. The protagonist in this case is Clem. Some of those people opposed Clem but most not in a way consistent enough to make them a villain. So no, not any character can be seen as a villain.
"Kill one in order to save many is part of survival" that all I got to say
The whole group put everyone at risk when they escape from How's that's just as bad as what Carver did.
You clearly dont know the definition of antagonist.
I wouldnt have had any problems with St. Johns, if they didnt kill Mark. If they actually only ate people who were going to die no matter what, then it would have been fine by me. I would have walked away obviously. Not a big fan of cannibalism.
I'm with you, man.
I can't go as far as to say that Carver wasn't a villain, but he was definitely a sympathetic and relatable one. "Sick and twisted murderer, plain and simple" is a really harsh way to describe a guy who was totally sane and genuinely trying to do essentially what he thought best for the people around him as well as himself.
David Burcowiecz or John Wayne Gacy fit the description of "sick and twisted murderer, plain and simple.' Bill Carver was just a pretty normal guy, an asshole probably ...but not steeped in unfathomable evil, who got in way over his head in a tough situation and let his baser nature got the best of him.
The Stranger.
If Carver had been half as well writen as the Stranger, I could have enjoyed Season 2 much more.
so basically anyone who did jane wrong or jane just disliked excluding winston and sam.... ok then
Go look it up.
Uhm... no? People who i saw as a threat to Clementine, i consider antagonists. The game is not about Jane or Kenny, its about Clementine.
The Stranger was written brilliantly, in the sense that he was a villain but at the same time not. I found myself sympathizing with and even feeling sorry for him. He's not a cookie-cut antagonist, he's not trying to be a dictator or bad just for the sake of being bad. He's just a guy suffering from denial/grief, and is trying the best he can to make up for it.
This.
So much this.
After your comment above, it becomes increasingly clear that it's you who doesn't know the definition of antagonist. Really, look it up and revise your list accordingly.
An antagonist is a character, group of characters, or institution that represents the opposition against which the protagonist or protagonists must contend. In other words, an antagonist is a person or a group of people who oppose the main character
i don't see how kenny, jane, mike, bonnie and aj oppose clem in anyway
and before you say what i think you are gonna say mike and bonnie opposed kenny in the end not clem
i wouldn't consider nate a villain for some reason idk i really don't know how to explain it i also wouldn't consider the save lot bandits villains since well they were just bandits in a area they didn't really cause trouble for the group until later for a very short period of time
i would say it is a tie between the st johns and carver but you know who beats them all imo in terms of true evil this motherfucker
Yep, and even if they did oppose Clem in the end that would not immediately make them antagonists or villains. One moment or even a few moments of opposition is not enough to make an antagonist. Given that drama is conflict and there will be conflict among characters and so moments of opposition, that would make every character except the protagonist an antagonist and that's simply not how it works.
And AJ can no more be the antagonist than a rock Clem has to step over.
Thats Kenny to me.
Kenny and his plans were a threat to my Clementine. Simple as that.
AJ puts Clementine in danger, simply by existing.