He was leaving, you could see him start to walk when Jane jumped him. She wanted what he had, not to protect Clem. Maybe if she didn't do that then Arvo wouldn't have come back.
I said she should have done something...Am I asking them to change the game? No. I'm stating she could have handled the situation as if this was real.
Jane started it, first encounter with Arvo, she was aggressive and stole his gun or/ and his medicine.
I was referencing episode 4, on the platform, Arvo did say "I don't want to shoot anyone, especially a little girl" that is true but he was … morestill aiming a gun at Clem and Jane disarmed him. How was that selfish? She was protecting Clem. She didn't hit him or shoot him or cause him any harm. She did warn him to never come around here again. But guess what? He did and with friend's.
Could she have handled it better? perhap's but that is irrelevant as that would have required dialogue and action's that were not included in the game. You cannot say what they "should have done" if it wasn't ever an option. That's like saying Kenny should have just let Rebecca shoot Carver. Maybe a lot of people would have chosen that option but it wasn't an option so it's invalid.
Who cause the shootout? How about if we blame Rebecca for coming back as a Walker, or how about Clem/Kenny for firing the first shot? or Arvo for returning to rob us?
Well, I have this scene open on youtube right now and I've watched it several time so see if he specifically tried to leave. He was just standing still with a shaky gun hand, he haden't actually taken a single step or turn to leave.
I didn't say, you said they needed to change the game, I said, it's unfair to suggest that Jane could have handled it much better when in fact, no she couldn't. There were no other option's on how she could handle it.
She could have handled the situation as if it were real? To me, she did. If someone were pointing a gun at me I would certainly hope Jane would jump out of nowhere and disarm the person.
With all that said and the numerous time's you and I have gone around on these forum's, I think we've once again come to the point neither of us will ever agree on anything and as such it's proably better to part way's again each of us with our own perspective's. This is pointless and the only way one of us could be proven right is if a real ZA were to happen and the first of us to die would then be proven wrong.
He was leaving, you could see him start to walk when Jane jumped him. She wanted what he had, not to protect Clem. Maybe if she didn't do th… moreat then Arvo wouldn't have come back.
I said she should have done something...Am I asking them to change the game? No. I'm stating she could have handled the situation as if this was real.
Jane started it, first encounter with Arvo, she was aggressive and stole his gun or/ and his medicine.
Well, I have this scene open on youtube right now and I've watched it several time so see if he specifically tried to leave. He was just st… moreanding still with a shaky gun hand, he haden't actually taken a single step or turn to leave.
I didn't say, you said they needed to change the game, I said, it's unfair to suggest that Jane could have handled it much better when in fact, no she couldn't. There were no other option's on how she could handle it.
She could have handled the situation as if it were real? To me, she did. If someone were pointing a gun at me I would certainly hope Jane would jump out of nowhere and disarm the person.
With all that said and the numerous time's you and I have gone around on these forum's, I think we've once again come to the point neither of us will ever agree on anything and as such it's proably better to part way's again each of us with our own perspective's. This is pointless and the only way one o… [view original content]
He probably like's Nate because he relates to some of Nate's character-traits.
Thank you for explaining it for me.
Obviously i wo… moreuldn't go around shooting old people at Walmart because i don't want to go to prison. I'm the kind of guy who talks about girls boobs to my friends. I love alcohol, i have a truck. I been in the army. There are things about this character i can identify with.
I wonder what would've happened if they had met, Larry is a big giant ass but I don't think he would have fit in with Carver's group. I'm thinking he would have been shot trying to tear Carver's head off.
The entire shootout was Arvo's fault, his sister being killed and his friends death's were on his hand's.
Just wanted to point out that the shootout was Kenny's/Clementine's fault also, for shooting Rebecca without any warning, causing the russians to response to fire. Arvo and Natasha wanted to leave and i would imagine that Buricko & Vitali would have followed if this happened, thus they would have avoided the fight.
Jane jumped Arvo because he was holding a gun to Clem. That's justified but you call it aggressive. Perhap's it was done in an aggressive … moremanner but was intended to protect Clem so I see it as completely justified. The choice on what to do with him was left up to Clem. Clem's options are (Don't do it.. What are you doing?.. and Is it safe to let him go?) The option's were not Jane's, all she did was warn him "don't you EVER come around here again".
So I still don't see how this entire interaction was Jane's fault. What I see is, we didn't steal the med's from Arvo, we didn't hurt him, and we did in fact let him leave. Giving the gun back to him would have been foolish as he could have very well just shot Jane and Clem.
What did happen, was Arvo got his group, found our's, jumped us with AK47's, lied about us robbing him, and said they wanted all of our thing's, after we let him go with the med's for his sister. The entire shootout… [view original content]
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have you ever seen animal freeze and then try to move?
He was leaving, you could see him start to walk when Jane jumped him. She wanted what he had, not to protect Clem. Maybe if she didn't do that then Arvo wouldn't have come back.
I said she should have done something...Am I asking them to change the game? No. I'm stating she could have handled the situation as if this was real.
Jane started it, first encounter with Arvo, she was aggressive and stole his gun or/ and his medicine.
He's completely unpredictable, that's why! One moment he's got your back and the next he could be stabbing it (And taking your stuff)!
There's like a 50% chance that he'll shoot you the first time he sees you, and a 50% chance he'll keep you around as long as possible.
Well, I have this scene open on youtube right now and I've watched it several time so see if he specifically tried to leave. He was just standing still with a shaky gun hand, he haden't actually taken a single step or turn to leave.
I didn't say, you said they needed to change the game, I said, it's unfair to suggest that Jane could have handled it much better when in fact, no she couldn't. There were no other option's on how she could handle it.
She could have handled the situation as if it were real? To me, she did. If someone were pointing a gun at me I would certainly hope Jane would jump out of nowhere and disarm the person.
With all that said and the numerous time's you and I have gone around on these forum's, I think we've once again come to the point neither of us will ever agree on anything and as such it's proably better to part way's again each of us with our own perspective's. This is pointless and the only way one of us could be proven right is if a real ZA were to happen and the first of us to die would then be proven wrong.
Okay, agree to disagree...Again.
Cya in the ZA. :P
Relating to a few character traits =/= being like him in every way.
Shit, we ALL relate to character traits in pretty much every character out there.
Nate has his own theme song too!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVWUy8bfZMM
Kill him in season 3, now that WOULD be fun.
I agree, that would be fun. He'd probably be taunting you as you decide, like, "you don't have the balls to do it," or something like that.
Oooooh, believe me Nate, I do have the balls.
Ever hear of a innocent exaggeration? Or do you take everything you read for face value? I guess cut back on the metaphors for a while.
Don't want to be judged on the internet.
Larry died way before his time. He should of been the antagonist imo in S1.
Nate in a weird way reminds me of Denis Leary.
Just wanted to point out that the shootout was Kenny's/Clementine's fault also, for shooting Rebecca without any warning, causing the russians to response to fire. Arvo and Natasha wanted to leave and i would imagine that Buricko & Vitali would have followed if this happened, thus they would have avoided the fight.