Everything Wrong With Episode 4: Amid the Ruins.

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I'm surprised that they didn't sin the fact that Kenny's angry at you no matter what you did to Sarita, Luke's ribs magically heeled up so he can fuck Jane, the fact that at 15:35, Clementine is somehow magically flying, and one of the major choices in the episode was holding the baby. Also, I would have said, "Russian Harry Potter," but whatever.

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  • edited November 2014

    I'm pretty sure these are sort of meant to be taken as a joke, but I stopped watching at the fifth one. If she was able to say "hey Kenny, guess you know how Lilly felt" in the middle of the hoard, that would literally be the stupidest thing ever.

  • Of course they're meant to be a joke, these people don't actually hate the game, but they enjoy nitpicking the hell out of it (that's literally their slogan for their channel). Even if you like it, you still have to acknowledge it's shortcomings and flaws, might as well get some laughter out of it. It's like Cinemasins, the person that does it doesn't hate the movies, but is willing to point out the flaws of it.

    Green613 posted: »

    I'm pretty sure these are sort of meant to be taken as a joke, but I stopped watching at the fifth one. If she was able to say "hey Kenny, guess you know how Lilly felt" in the middle of the hoard, that would literally be the stupidest thing ever.

  • True, Amid The Ruins does have its flaws, but most of what people hate it for are exactly that, nitpicks.

    Of course they're meant to be a joke, these people don't actually hate the game, but they enjoy nitpicking the hell out of it (that's litera

  • Yeah and they let those nitpicks affect their whole view of the episode. Which is stupid.

    Green613 posted: »

    True, Amid The Ruins does have its flaws, but most of what people hate it for are exactly that, nitpicks.

  • Yup.

    Yeah and they let those nitpicks affect their whole view of the episode. Which is stupid.

  • wow i had forgotten about that Jane and Rebecca interaction. shitty character, shitty dialogue that makes no sense. Most hyped and worst episode ever. Thanks Shorette

  • So much Sarah hate in this video :(

  • edited November 2014

    Eric Stirpe and J.T. Petty wrote this episode, Shorette wrote In Harms Way (one of the best episode in my opinion). But yeah, this episode is poorly written and just plain not good.

    wow i had forgotten about that Jane and Rebecca interaction. shitty character, shitty dialogue that makes no sense. Most hyped and worst episode ever. Thanks Shorette

  • If the flaws are huge, persistent, easy to spot, break your immersion, etc, then it's not nitpicking.

    Green613 posted: »

    True, Amid The Ruins does have its flaws, but most of what people hate it for are exactly that, nitpicks.

  • This never happened for me, you guys must have gotten a special version that I don't know about.

    If the flaws are huge, persistent, easy to spot, break your immersion, etc, then it's not nitpicking.

  • Yeah, they don't like her that much, her and Kenny.

    JakeSt123 posted: »

    So much Sarah hate in this video

  • wrong at 11:00 it is actually russian harry potter 1+ sin for this channel

  • edited November 2014

    I literally said the same thing when I saw that too.

    Jewfreeus posted: »

    wrong at 11:00 it is actually russian harry potter 1+ sin for this channel

  • Doesn't the purpose of the statue become clear when Jane tells the story of her sister, of how she dragged her through the world and forced her to survive, when she just wanted to go? That's why she looks at it when they leave. Just my opinion.

  • They also hate Ben and Nick, he removed sins for both of their deaths.

    Yeah, they don't like her that much, her and Kenny.

  • Wait, for Nick's death?

    dojo32161 posted: »

    They also hate Ben and Nick, he removed sins for both of their deaths.

  • I think so too, not only about Jamie, but how she abandons the group at the end.

    Doesn't the purpose of the statue become clear when Jane tells the story of her sister, of how she dragged her through the world and forced her to survive, when she just wanted to go? That's why she looks at it when they leave. Just my opinion.

  • Nicks 2nd death was the laziest thing the series has ever done, he appears in 2 scenes and in one of those hes a zambambo.

    Sarah dies no matter what you do, so whats the point of the option?

    Ending where you go now or later makes no difference, same scene afterwords happens.

    Green613 posted: »

    This never happened for me, you guys must have gotten a special version that I don't know about.

  • Well they removed a sin for Nick's death because he does absolutely nothing if you saved him, so that makes sense.

    dojo32161 posted: »

    They also hate Ben and Nick, he removed sins for both of their deaths.

  • Nicks 2nd death was the laziest thing the series has ever done, he appears in 2 scenes and in one of those hes a zambambo.

    Not every character death is going to be a moment of glory, people are going to die like that, not a very valid complaint. Even then, it's not something to hate the episode for, characters die every episode, Carlos' death was pretty awfully done, I rarely see people give episode 3 for that, so what's up? It's just that people liked Nick, so when a character they liked dies, the episode is suddenly garbage.

    Sarah dies no matter what you do, so whats the point of the option?

    I'm not going to go into his one much but the point is, are you going to let your Clem let go of people who aren't fit to help themselves, or are you going to let her become the type of person who still wants to save people. Not that hard to figure out.

    Ending where you go now or later makes no difference, same scene afterwords happens.

    While I can't really excuse this one, the choices never really made a difference anyway, and they wouldn't be able to create 2 different scenarios for it anyway, also I'm pretty sure the same thing happens in season 1, where if you wait till night or go at daytime in the first episode, after that the same scenario plays.

    colgato posted: »

    Nicks 2nd death was the laziest thing the series has ever done, he appears in 2 scenes and in one of those hes a zambambo. Sarah dies no

  • Not every character death is going to be a moment of glory, people are going to die like that, not a very valid complaint. Even then, it's not something to hate the episode for, characters die every episode, Carlos' death was pretty awfully done, I rarely see people give episode 3 for that, so what's up? It's just that people liked Nick, so when a character they liked dies, the episode is suddenly garbage.

    I have no problem without a character going out in a blaze of glory, but the fact he got no dialogue in the episode and barely any in the 3rd episode. Its pretty obvious TT had no idea what to do with him.

    Green613 posted: »

    Nicks 2nd death was the laziest thing the series has ever done, he appears in 2 scenes and in one of those hes a zambambo. Not every

  • Well I blame it on episode 2, they should have never made him determinant in the first place.

    Not every character death is going to be a moment of glory, people are going to die like that, not a very valid complaint. Even then, it's n

  • I find it funny that Chuck died off-screen and no one complained. His death should have been what Nick's was modeled after.

    Not every character death is going to be a moment of glory, people are going to die like that, not a very valid complaint. Even then, it's n

  • I still wish he would've died in the gunfight.

    Green613 posted: »

    Well I blame it on episode 2, they should have never made him determinant in the first place.

  • That probably would have been worse, lol.

    I still wish he would've died in the gunfight.

  • I didn't really care for Chuck all that much, but I find his death kinda "meh."

    I find it funny that Chuck died off-screen and no one complained. His death should have been what Nick's was modeled after.

  • Regarding that statue: I absolutely hate how they handled the symbolism behind it

    It got to a point where they were literally bashing you over the head with it; it was shoehorned in to basically every single scene

    "Guys look at this statue holy fucking SHIT what could it MEAN"

    Doesn't the purpose of the statue become clear when Jane tells the story of her sister, of how she dragged her through the world and forced her to survive, when she just wanted to go? That's why she looks at it when they leave. Just my opinion.

  • I don't think so, seeing him die would have made it better for me. But seeing him caught in a fence was pretty pathetic.

    Green613 posted: »

    That probably would have been worse, lol.

  • Yes, 20 bonus points!

    I think so too, not only about Jamie, but how she abandons the group at the end.

  • Eh maybe, but I don't really see a way Telltale would have gotten rid of him without the blaze of glory, which I don't think Nick deserves. Let's be honest, what did Nick really do that people liked him so much? :P Nothing, all the hype created for him was made by the fans and the fans only.

    I don't think so, seeing him die would have made it better for me. But seeing him caught in a fence was pretty pathetic.

  • oh, i know this guy.... he was inspired by cinema sins , but people saying he's just ripping it off..

  • People did complain back when season 1 was going according to older people here. I hate his death less because we saw the reason he died, saving Clementine and his suicide, but Nick's death is open ended and illogical.

    I find it funny that Chuck died off-screen and no one complained. His death should have been what Nick's was modeled after.

  • It gave an insight into the sort of character Jane was. Pure survivalist. Not carrying anyone against their will, free of burdens etc.

    Jane: "Let's just leave all this behind us" "I guess some people can't just let go of the past"

    I agree though, thought it was an overarching theme for the entire episode and the next one rather than just one character. Could have just had her tell us without the symbolism and it would have worked. Wasn't like the 'Duck' symbolism and family.

    Deltino posted: »

    Regarding that statue: I absolutely hate how they handled the symbolism behind it It got to a point where they were literally bashing you

  • All the hype came out of the fact that we could decide his fate in Ep. 2 and that among the Cabin Group he had the best and most character development. We could choose to keep him alive or kill him. It was interesting to see what would come out of it.

    Green613 posted: »

    Eh maybe, but I don't really see a way Telltale would have gotten rid of him without the blaze of glory, which I don't think Nick deserves.

  • He didn't need to go out in a blaze of glory, he just needed to do something and have people react, or at the very least on screen.

    Green613 posted: »

    Eh maybe, but I don't really see a way Telltale would have gotten rid of him without the blaze of glory, which I don't think Nick deserves.

  • People could relate to Nick's personality and had sympathy for him. He and Sarah had the most personality at of all the cabin survivors. (Expect for Rebecca)

    He was one of my favorite characters out of S2, Pete was "nice", Luke was just a nice guy until he started showing emotion (Ep4 and 5) and Alvin was not really like able unless you saved him in Episode 2 or asked him for the juice box.

    Every Cabin survivor death was fine until Nick and Sarah's second death scenes because they were poorly made, like really I don't believe Nick tripped and got stuck into a fence. And Sarah's second death, she fell but she was the last to fall and the debris fell before her, like how did she get stuck? Such bull.

    Green613 posted: »

    Eh maybe, but I don't really see a way Telltale would have gotten rid of him without the blaze of glory, which I don't think Nick deserves.

  • he just needed

    This is what I'm not getting, why does he need to die on screen? And why does there need to be a reaction? People can die without Clementine being right there, next to them holding their hand through it.

    dojo32161 posted: »

    He didn't need to go out in a blaze of glory, he just needed to do something and have people react, or at the very least on screen.

  • That's right I forgot he died for Clem, his death makes more sense now.

    dojo32161 posted: »

    People did complain back when season 1 was going according to older people here. I hate his death less because we saw the reason he died, saving Clementine and his suicide, but Nick's death is open ended and illogical.

  • The theory is that Nick ran off to get help. He tangles with the walker. He can't fend it off. He gets bit. His last act is to wedge himself into the fence so he can't harm any of his friends.

    Sarah's deaths told me that the writers hated her. You could only get out of the first death by slapping her.

    People could relate to Nick's personality and had sympathy for him. He and Sarah had the most personality at of all the cabin survivors. (Ex

  • like really I don't believe Nick tripped and got stuck into a fence

    How do you even know that happened? What if he turned and then got caught on to the fence, walkers love clinging to the fence as shown in the show. I can't really excuse the Sarah getting stuck thing though.

    People could relate to Nick's personality and had sympathy for him. He and Sarah had the most personality at of all the cabin survivors. (Ex

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