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I can't wait to see the sam and max visual reference in this game !

doodo!doodo!
edited August 2009 in Tales of Monkey Island
I know that all 4 games, and many lucas arts game from before had a sam and max visual reference in the game. I can't wait to see what Tales does . I wonder how they will put max into the game,.
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  • MardukMarduk
    edited June 2009
    The first Sam and Max was released after the first Monkey Island. I'm pretty sure it was after the second, too, because it looked as pixelated as the first and Sam and Max didn't look nearly as pixelated.

    There might have been a Sam & Max referances in 'Curse' and 'Escape'...

    Why are you expecting one in 'Tales'?
  • tmsmyth4tmsmyth4
    edited June 2009
    There was a Max reference in MI2 in the costume shop

    ...and on the 1st floor in DOT (as Hoagie), there may have been one in curse+escape but cant remember
  • CaptainXaxCaptainXax
    edited June 2009
    Check out the idols:
    samnmax2.PNG

    Very far right, you can see both Sam and Max:
    samnmax.PNG
  • FuryFury
    edited June 2009
    That's definitely a reference in the first 2 games.

    I'm replaying the MIs on my DS. They're great games.
  • FuryFury
    edited June 2009
    In Curse, you can see Max on the rollercoaster., and you can also change the lights at the play to make a Max head.

    I can't remember escape.
  • JakeJake Telltale Alumni
    edited June 2009
    Sam & Max were referenced in LucasArts games well before Sam & Max Hit the Road. Max is in Monkey 1 and 2, I think even Indy Last Crusade, as part of a totem pole or something?

    Here's a list of many of them on the Sam & Max wiki. Unfortunately not in chronological order, but hey!
  • doodo!doodo!
    edited June 2009
    Jake wrote: »
    Sam & Max were referenced in LucasArts games well before Sam & Max Hit the Road. Max is in Monkey 1 and 2, I think even Indy Last Crusade, as part of a totem pole or something?

    Here's a list of many of them on the Sam & Max wiki. Unfortunately not in chronological order, but hey!

    Thank you for posting this . :)
  • Secret FawfulSecret Fawful
    edited June 2009
    Torin's Passage, a 1995 adventure game by Sierra On-Line, featured two skunks named Sam and Max.

    Wow, that's kind of low! Or kind of HILARIOUS. (Sorry, Steve.)
  • BaggeBagge
    edited June 2009
    Jake wrote: »
    I think even Indy Last Crusade, as part of a totem pole or something?

    Yeah, they were in Indy's office
  • Mike HaleyMike Haley
    edited June 2009
    I asked about this in the Private Pirates Club, and Mark Darin answered it in a roundabout sort of way.
    MarkDarin wrote: »
    I dunno... Better check all of those cave drawings, tiki idols and mysterious runes throughout the season. Ya never know...
    PS. This is not a Sam & Max reference by any means, but I found this moment in Curse of Monkey Island to be rather amusing.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlBa1xyCx_4

    "If you squint and turn your head, it looks like a bunny."
  • onlyamonkeyonlyamonkey
    edited June 2009
    So weird with these unreasonable expectations. I'd like to play a new game thanks.
  • Mike HaleyMike Haley
    edited June 2009
    I wouldn't call this an unreasonable expectation. Fans that bitch about the control scheme, graphics, voice actors, and whatnot could be considered rather unreasonable (and ungrateful), but it is pretty common practice for Telltale to include in-jokes in their games, and Sam & Max themselves have appeared in some shape or form in their past releases. I know that there were a few references in Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People.
  • onlyamonkeyonlyamonkey
    edited June 2009
    mhaley wrote: »
    I wouldn't call that unreasonable at all. Bitching about the control scheme, graphics, voice actors, and whatnot is, but it is pretty common for Telltale to include in-jokes in their games, and Sam & Max themselves have appeared in some shape or form in their past releases. I know that there were a few references in Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People.

    Cool, that means they're all referenced out then? I'm just saying I dislike stuff that has to be just for the sake of has to be. I understand Guybrush as main char, Lechuck involved in some way, puzzles, pirates and possibly Caribbeans- but everything else is like: SURPRISE ME! Show me cool stuff!
  • Mike HaleyMike Haley
    edited June 2009
    I don't want Telltale to say something outright like, "Sam & Max will appear as figurines in the Governor's Mansion on Bulky Island." That would spoil the fun. While I don't agree with most of doodo's threads, I think that this one is only intended to stir up a little bit of harmless speculation.

    Note to self: Stop picking fights with Telltale forum members.
  • tmsmyth4tmsmyth4
    edited June 2009
    I might be wrong but i thought i saw a s&m reference in the Tales stage demo on Flotsam island. Looked like there was some bloke selling those unicorns from the Moon episode. if not, they certainly looked similar
  • FuryFury
    edited June 2009
    They probably will have references like that.

    I might buy sam and max seasons 1 and 2 just so I get the MI references.
  • tmsmyth4tmsmyth4
    edited June 2009
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    looking at it again, im sure thats the unicorn from bright side of the moon!

    (woaah, sorry for the massive pic!)
  • PariahKingPariahKing
    edited June 2009
    In Curse, if you fiddle with the light controls with the stage? Max.

    Don't think they're in Escape though.
  • monkey_05_06monkey_05_06
    edited June 2009
    Marduk wrote: »
    The first Sam and Max was released after the first Monkey Island. I'm pretty sure it was after the second, too, because it looked as pixelated as the first and Sam and Max didn't look nearly as pixelated.

    It's interesting to see that your logic is that "if SMI came out before S&M, then there can be no reference in SMI..." As has been presented with screenshots, there are references in the first two games, I know about the one on the stage in CMI, but don't recall if there is one in EFMI or not.

    Anyway, just curious Marduk...are you aware that Sam & Max were a comic book first, then the game came out? Granted, HtR was the first S&M game that LA produced, so I can say that it's fair to conclude they wouldn't have Easter eggs for something they hadn't produced yet...but S&M did come out prior to the SMI. Just to be clear on that point.
  • FuryFury
    edited June 2009
    I imagine it was in the development stages before SMI, otherwise it would be a bit random.
  • MardukMarduk
    edited June 2009
    monkey_05_06 wrote: »
    It's interesting to see that your logic is that "if SMI came out before S&M, then there can be no reference in SMI..." As has been presented with screenshots, there are references in the first two games, I know about the one on the stage in CMI, but don't recall if there is one in EFMI or not.

    Anyway, just curious Marduk...are you aware that Sam & Max were a comic book first, then the game came out? Granted, HtR was the first S&M game that LA produced, so I can say that it's fair to conclude they wouldn't have Easter eggs for something they hadn't produced yet...but S&M did come out prior to the SMI. Just to be clear on that point.

    Yeah, I was aware the comic was first, thanks. And it was already pointed out to me by a TTG representative and it was very clear from the screenshot. Thanks for reinforcing the point, you're clearly a very nice and understanding person :)
  • Guybrush_ThreepwoodGuybrush_Threepwood
    edited June 2009
    Oh, yes, ANOTHER thread posted by the one who's always horny, who wants to see a naked Elaine, who likes pregnant women, who dislikes MI2 (?!?!?!?!?).
    God, since TMI was announced, lotsa trolls and ill-minded people showed up.
    I wonder why this thread will be closed this time.
  • MardukMarduk
    edited June 2009
    I haven't noticed anything lewd or even slightly suggestive.

    be nice to him and maybe he won't be so pervy.
  • doodo!doodo!
    edited June 2009
    Guybrush_Threepwood wrote: »
    Oh, yes, ANOTHER thread posted by the one who's always horny, who wants to see a naked Elaine, who likes pregnant women, who dislikes MI2 (?!?!?!?!?).
    God, since TMI was announced, lotsa trolls and ill-minded people showed up.
    I wonder why this thread will be closed this time.

    Actually I don't see any reason for this one to get closed .
  • Guybrush_ThreepwoodGuybrush_Threepwood
    edited June 2009
    Not yet... hope it's going on this way
  • doodo!doodo!
    edited June 2009
    Did I hit a nerve, I detect some hostility. I'd like if we could be friends...This is supposed to be a friendly forum .
  • UdvarnokyUdvarnoky
    edited June 2009
    tmsmyth4 wrote: »
    ...and on the 1st floor in DOT (as Hoagie), there may have been one in curse+escape but cant remember

    I know there's at least a verbal reference in EMI, as "SamNMax" is one of the possible Pegnose Pete aliases when using the homemade perfume on Deadeye Dave.
  • doodo!doodo!
    edited June 2009
    I think there was one in Escape, some where I have to play it again now . Did they break the tradition 1-3 because of the visual style. I wonder . I got to play EMI once again some time.
  • kbloodkblood
    edited June 2009
    doodo! wrote: »
    I think there was one in Escape, some where I have to play it again now . Did they break the tradition 1-3 because of the visual style. I wonder . I got to play EMI once again some time.

    I have looked it up. There was a reference in the house of prosteses. One of the names you can pick is Sam n Max. Another reference, is that the music in the LUA bar is from Sam n Max HtR or a remix of it. Its the music from the bigfoot party.

    I didnt discover any of this myself and I still think there is more than text and music references to Sam n Max in Monkey 4. I am about to play through all the Monkey Games today, so maybe I will find some :)
    http://www.eeggs.com/tree/857.html
  • doodo!doodo!
    edited June 2009
    That sounds like a fun idea, I hope that you find some more . I hope that you enjoy the fourth game even though most people hate it , and you probabally hate it too . But I hope that he makes more appearances in EMI.
  • LaserschwertLaserschwert
    edited June 2009
    monkey_05_06 wrote: »
    Granted, HtR was the first S&M game that LA produced, so I can say that it's fair to conclude they wouldn't have Easter eggs for something they hadn't produced yet...

    But since Steve Purcell was working at LucasArts/LucasfilmGames prior to "Hit the Road" the references didn't need that game to be put in.
  • monkey_05_06monkey_05_06
    edited June 2009
    I wasn't trying to be a jerk, so sorry if it came across that way...

    Also, according to the Wikipedia article, Steve did use Sam and Max as "test" characters for the SCUMM engine during its design which is how it came about that he was given the opportunity to create HtR.

    Would be interested to see if anybody did find an S&M reference in EFMI though...
  • kbloodkblood
    edited June 2009
    I just finished Secret of Monkey Island and in the end credits it says Sam n Max appearing in the game is courtesy of one of the art guys making the game. Dont remember his name atm, but he has been mentioned before on these forums.

    Lol... Steve Purcell as it seems you have already been discussing...
  • LogicDeLuxeLogicDeLuxe
    edited June 2009
    mhaley wrote: »
    PS. This is not a Sam & Max reference by any means, but I found this moment in Curse of Monkey Island to be rather amusing.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlBa1xyCx_4

    "If you squint and turn your head, it looks like a bunny."
    It's an obvious reference to this picture: http://www.opendb.net/element/16535.php
  • IrishmileIrishmile
    edited June 2009
    TTG reused their models constantly.. in S&M.. So I am willing to bet you will see a bunch of reused things in TOMI taken directly from S&M...
  • FriarFriar
    edited July 2009
    monkey_05_06 wrote: »
    It's interesting to see that your logic is that "if SMI came out before S&M, then there can be no reference in SMI..." As has been presented with screenshots, there are references in the first two games, I know about the one on the stage in CMI, but don't recall if there is one in EFMI or not.

    Anyway, just curious Marduk...are you aware that Sam & Max were a comic book first, then the game came out? Granted, HtR was the first S&M game that LA produced, so I can say that it's fair to conclude they wouldn't have Easter eggs for something they hadn't produced yet...but S&M did come out prior to the SMI. Just to be clear on that point.

    The SFMI refference was one of the cataloguing system names (Sam.N.Max)
  • MarzhinMarzhin
    edited July 2009
    kblood wrote: »
    I have looked it up. There was a reference in the house of prosteses. One of the names you can pick is Sam n Max. Another reference, is that the music in the LUA bar is from Sam n Max HtR or a remix of it. Its the music from the bigfoot party.

    There is another one : in the lower right hand corner of the school on Knuttin Atoll (sorry for the quality of the picture, it's easier to recognize Max in the actual game, because you can see his teeth)

    maxinefmi.th.jpg
  • thatdude98thatdude98
    edited July 2009
    doodo! wrote: »
    That sounds like a fun idea, I hope that you find some more . I hope that you enjoy the fourth game even though most people hate it , and you probabally hate it too . But I hope that he makes more appearances in EMI.

    Escape from the most unappreciated Monkey Island... or...

    LEAVE MONKEY ISLAND 4 ALOOOOOOOOONE!!!!!!!!!

    but yeah, I think MI4 gets a lot of hate that's really unnecessary. It's a great game.
  • corruptbigginscorruptbiggins
    edited July 2009
    thatdude98 wrote: »
    but yeah, I think MI4 gets a lot of hate that's really unnecessary. It's a great game.

    That it is, but in comparison to the 1st three MI games it's not so great.
  • SHODANFreemanSHODANFreeman
    edited July 2009
    PariahKing wrote: »
    In Curse, if you fiddle with the light controls with the stage? Max.

    Don't think they're in Escape though.

    In Escape from Monkey Island, Sam N. Max is one of the potential aliases for Pegnose Pete.

    From the Sam & Max wiki.
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