Why is Clementine an expert with every weapon?

And why has nobody said anything about it (maybe they have I'm not sure)? In season one she was a good shooter, and not much else. So I can see why she's a good shot still. But what about that ax? Or the screwdriver? She cut Sarita's arm in two hacks and we've never seen her with an ax before.

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  • An axe isn't exactly a complicated weapon to use. The screwdriver can be explained through Jane's help.

    Mostly though, it's plot. A kid her size would probably have a lot of trouble pulling an axe free or stabbing a screwdriver into a skull with enough force to punch through.

  • Because anyone with a brain knows what to do with both of those objects.

  • Still sucks with a rifle.

  • what about that ax? Or the screwdriver? She cut Sarita's arm in two hacks and we've never seen her with an ax before.

    it doesnt take rocket science to know that you have to swing shit to kill things

  • Yeah, because she used it right, yes? No, she didn't. In terms of using a rifle Telltale did everything in a realistic way because after Clementine used it she immediately fell on the ground because shot was too powerful for her. Also, weapon was already loaded and unlocked so it isn't a rocket science to just grab a weapon and pull a triger. She didn't even aimed properly at the approaching walker.

    Still sucks with a rifle.

  • edited August 2015

    So it's believable for Clem to be a sharpshooter and is able to save Molly's life because of five minutes of teaching, but it is unbelievable to think that she can swing a hatchet and stab with a screwdriver?

  • Every game ever the protagonist is good with all weapons, anyway the game doesnt have clementine firing a minigun so its pretty good

  • edited August 2015

    Kids learn faster, remember how Jane taught her to kill walkers and she mastered it?, also Lee taught her well, plus christa and Omid, she had good mentors and she is really smart. She probably thought about cutting Saritas arm because of what happened to Lee, the guy Carver killed or maybe just common sense, also she was hiding and surviving by herself since the beggining so I don't see why she can't be an expert with every weapon.

  • Because plot

  • Plot.

    She has hee plot strength and accuracy (unless the plot says she doesn't) to go with her +9001 Plot Armour.

  • She has been training with her gun for two years, have you seen Carl Grimes in the comic? He's missing an eye and yet he headshots all the time, why? Because he's had intensive training since it's the damn apocalypse and he's Clementine's age. It's believable for an eleven year old kid after two years of training to be accurate with a Berretta, which isn't a hard gun to use by itself. More incredible would be if she were accurate with a machine gun or a shotgun, but that is not the case.

    Plot. She has hee plot strength and accuracy (unless the plot says she doesn't) to go with her +9001 Plot Armour.

  • Yeah its not like they sit on their asses in between scavenging, sleeping and traveling, ppl forget they train too

    She has been training with her gun for two years, have you seen Carl Grimes in the comic? He's missing an eye and yet he headshots all the t

  • She is the golden child. She has perfect stats in Fallout Games. She is a certified genius, who can take apart a nuclear bomb with three paperclips a wad of chewing gum, and urine.

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  • It's not an axe, it's a hatchet.

    Surely you swing a hatchet to kill and not shoot bullets, no?

  • False. Rhys and Fiona aren't good with weapons.

    Every game ever the protagonist is good with all weapons, anyway the game doesnt have clementine firing a minigun so its pretty good

  • Fiona isn't good with weapons? Really?

    Omid's cat posted: »

    False. Rhys and Fiona aren't good with weapons.

  • lol.... She can fire a gun. Haven't seen her strip one down, and put it back together blindfolded or anything. Swinging a hatchet, or stabbing with a screwdriver don't require skill. A child half her age can swing a baseball bat at a ball.

    That being said, she is a child genius who will fly around the planet until it reverses time and save the world.

  • Her sister is. Only weapon Fiona has is tiny sleeve gun. Use it first time and she'll miss. Girl can't lift a rocket launcher. May be con artist but definitely not a shooter.

    Fiona isn't good with weapons? Really?

  • Eh, actually Carl has even more epic plot armour/skills.

    She has been training with her gun for two years, have you seen Carl Grimes in the comic? He's missing an eye and yet he headshots all the t

  • Because Clem is a badass motherfucker with skillz.

  • she misses? She shoots August's gun out of his hand, and it wasn't like she could properly aim, she shot while she was jumping. She's capable of shooting Felix, Mordecai and some mutated plants without ever missing a shot. Also, she knows how to use a grenade and she killed several rakks with a machine gun. Not even Sasha could have lifted that Rocket launcher, as Fiona said "it was massive, even for her (Vallory)"

    Omid's cat posted: »

    Her sister is. Only weapon Fiona has is tiny sleeve gun. Use it first time and she'll miss. Girl can't lift a rocket launcher. May be con artist but definitely not a shooter.

  • edited August 2015

    well, at this point, any skills a character has is a "plot armour". By your point of view, the only place where we won't find plot armour is real life.

    Eh, actually Carl has even more epic plot armour/skills.

  • Yup. That's about right. The Walking Dead (show, game, comic) tends to give some people tons and tons of plot armour and others none. Although everyone (plot armoured) or not pulls off really improbable headshots. In a situation where headshots are the only means of killing guns become immediately impractical (I say that as a gun owner) and blunt weapons are key.

    They should git rekt in every encounter they find themselves in, instead they pull off headshot after headshot after headshot, and so on. Their guns and plot skills are borderline deus ex machina

    well, at this point, any skills a character has is a "plot armour". By your point of view, the only place where we won't find plot armour is real life.

  • Dude, you're not allowed to criticize Season 1 on these forums like that, did you forget that?

    lupinb0y posted: »

    So it's believable for Clem to be a sharpshooter and is able to save Molly's life because of five minutes of teaching, but it is unbelievable to think that she can swing a hatchet and stab with a screwdriver?

  • Zombies are slow and dumb, they are relatively easy to headshot, as for the humans, the headshots I saw were all done with precision sights, so that's realistic. What I saw earlier not only refers to TWD, but to any other fictional universe in the world where a character uses a gun, if you think skills are plot armours, then there's no realism in fictions.

    Yup. That's about right. The Walking Dead (show, game, comic) tends to give some people tons and tons of plot armour and others none. Althou

  • Don't listen to the blinded fandom it's still amazing how she has more intellectual and combat ability over any of the dumb ass adults in the S2 group. It's pathetic but still funny

  • She's lucky. Without luck she'd be dead. Fiona isn't good with weapons. Her gun is a toy.

    she misses? She shoots August's gun out of his hand, and it wasn't like she could properly aim, she shot while she was jumping. She's capab

  • You can be lucky once, maybe even twice, but three, four, five times? There are limits man. Her gun is a toy? You mean the one which fires actual bullets, elemental bullets? Well that sure ain't a kid's toy.

    Omid's cat posted: »

    She's lucky. Without luck she'd be dead. Fiona isn't good with weapons. Her gun is a toy.

  • You just brought me back to my Megaton days. Some of the best time spent with my Xbox 360.

    CrazyGeorge posted: »

    She is the golden child. She has perfect stats in Fallout Games. She is a certified genius, who can take apart a nuclear bomb with three paperclips a wad of chewing gum, and urine.

  • edited August 2015

    "Relatively easy to headshot" "Precision sights"

    I'm going to assume you don't handle firearms often, if at all. (Which is fine, I know there are more people that don't handle them than people that do.) Headshots are always impractical, even if the target is standing still. That's why no police force or military anywhere recommends them. Even snipers and sharpshooters are taught to refrain from using them except in cases where it's literally the only option (which are rare)

    Zombies are slow and dumb, they are relatively easy to headshot, as for the humans, the headshots I saw were all done with precision sights,

  • The bullet I put in Felix's throat says otherwise. My Fiona has never missed a shot.

    Omid's cat posted: »

    Her sister is. Only weapon Fiona has is tiny sleeve gun. Use it first time and she'll miss. Girl can't lift a rocket launcher. May be con artist but definitely not a shooter.

  • ^This

    she misses? She shoots August's gun out of his hand, and it wasn't like she could properly aim, she shot while she was jumping. She's capab

  • What about the shotgun she used?

    elmox01 posted: »

    Because Clem is a badass motherfucker with skillz.

  • Many women carries little gun in purse for self defence. It doesn't make them good with weapons. In Borderlands universe Fiona's pistol is a toy, she'd die in regular game quick. Felix knew that and hired Athena to protect and train girls. Don't make Fiona somebody she's not.

    You can be lucky once, maybe even twice, but three, four, five times? There are limits man. Her gun is a toy? You mean the one which fires actual bullets, elemental bullets? Well that sure ain't a kid's toy.

  • edited August 2015

    To be fair, in every single universe where a character uses a gun they are either unrealistically overpowered OR the character is stupidly inept in their use. I honestly have never seen any form of media depict guns accurately. Carl and Clementine should both be deaf and everyone on the Walking Dead (or anything with zombies, really) should have dumped their guns in favor of clubs by now. At least where zombies are concerned. Guns would only be (and are) useful against people because you don't need to (and shouldn't try to) make a headshot on them. Center mass 100% of the time, as I was taught.

    Zombies are slow and dumb, they are relatively easy to headshot, as for the humans, the headshots I saw were all done with precision sights,

  • In the Borderlands universe there are only like 12 people good with guns (Vault Hunters) everyone else is either mediocre (Hyperion soldiers, bandits, criminals) or terrible (literally everyone else) so Fiona is certainly okay. She's no Mordercai but she's certainly above average.

    Omid's cat posted: »

    Many women carries little gun in purse for self defence. It doesn't make them good with weapons. In Borderlands universe Fiona's pistol is a

  • Right?

    "Oh my gosh, look at this dangerous situation we are in! What will us twenty to sixty year olds ever do?"

    "Nothing! We'll just have the plot armoured 11 year old do everything."

    Clemenem posted: »

    Don't listen to the blinded fandom it's still amazing how she has more intellectual and combat ability over any of the dumb ass adults in the S2 group. It's pathetic but still funny

  • edited August 2015

    You can improve with training but no matter how much someone trains headshot after headshot after headshot remains improbable. Every military and police force are trained to avoid headshots because they're impractical. Except snipers and such, they're just discouraged from attempting them because they're risky shots even for them.

    ShaneGrimes posted: »

    Yeah its not like they sit on their asses in between scavenging, sleeping and traveling, ppl forget they train too

  • Eh she fucked up.

    Menofthe214 posted: »

    What about the shotgun she used?

  • Season 2 Episode 2 - You call that being an expert on using a rifle?

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