"Sarah has no redeeming qualities." Hm, I think you're forgetting who was the one that essentially saved Clem's life by giving her that peroxide in episode 1, and she stands up for Clem if you take the blame for the photo and if Carver hits her at the beginning of episode 3. The reason you see Sarah as a burden is because that's what Telltale wanted her to feel like to players, that's a part of her characterization, she's meant to serve as a foil to Clem to show what Clem would've been like if Lee hadn't taught her how to survive. And hating Sarah for reacting to her father's death is a pretty low blow.
Gotta MAN THE FUCK UP? I wonder what happened to some of those who MANNED THE FUCK UP. Carver died, Crawford is overrun, Lee died, the St. J… moreohns are most likely dead even if you spared Andy and Danny, Larry's dead, those 3 guys from the beginning of the game may be dead(Winston is, Victor is most likely, and Ralph could be), did I forget anyone else who MANNED THE FUCK UP?
"Okay, that girl needs to just die already." Opinion, I(and a bunch of others) don't agree with this.
"Her father just died because because of her stupidity!" Wrong
"But yeah, I will say it again. Sarah, as a character, is a god awful one. Like I have said in previous comments, the girl has no redeeming qualities." Opinion
At the end of the day, the character is purposefully annoying. She's almost intolerable. The sole purpose of her character is to push our morality to the limits. There is no denying all of this. This isn't whining. I'm just stating facts.
"Sarah has no redeeming qualities." Hm, I think you're forgetting who was the one that essentially saved Clem's life by giving her that pero… morexide in episode 1, and she stands up for Clem if you take the blame for the photo and if Carver hits her at the beginning of episode 3. The reason you see Sarah as a burden is because that's what Telltale wanted her to feel like to players, that's a part of her characterization, she's meant to serve as a foil to Clem to show what Clem would've been like if Lee hadn't taught her how to survive. And hating Sarah for reacting to her father's death is a pretty low blow.
It really pissed me off how he got mad at us for taking food and supplies that was in an opened up vehicle in the middle of the woods with no one around and called us out on the "bad" things we had done trying to survive
Not to try and be rude to you OP but your points don't seem to make sense. I don't see how Sarah's supposed "stupidity" caused her fathers death. What's ironic is that it has been implied multiple times that due to her fathers sheltering she is actually intelligent (perhaps not in terms of common sense but I felt as though she had read a variety of different books and learnt different things).
Carlos was shot, whether it was on purpose, or a bullet that missed a nearby walker and hit him, or whatever the simple matter of fact is that he's dead.
Honest question here, do you have any idea what the term "Man up means?" If you mean to abandon a helpless grieving girl to die, because you find her frustrating we have different opinions.
"you still shouldn't wish death upon her"
It's not like she's a real person so stop acting like i'm despicable for not liking the charact… moreer. All i'm saying is, if it were my story she'd be dead by now. The moral of the story is... the weak DIE in the ZA and it's time to MAN THE FUCK UP.
WE GOTTA BE A BIG MAN. MAN UP.
Honest question here, do you have any idea what the term "Man up means?" If you mean to abandon a helpless grieving girl to die, because you find her frustrating we have different opinions.
He probably blamed us because he knew it was his fault but in his mind he wanted to justify that it wasn't his fault and the "evil" people ruined his life when in fact it was him
It really pissed me off how he got mad at us for taking food and supplies that was in an opened up vehicle in the middle of the woods with no one around and called us out on the "bad" things we had done trying to survive
"She is almost intolerable" no she is not, you lack of tolerance wich is different. If theres people who can tolerate her behavior and understand it that doesn't make her intolerable that makes you a person with lack of tolerance, im not trying to be mean but that's the true and im sure more than one person agrees with this.
At the end of the day, the character is purposefully annoying. She's almost intolerable. The sole purpose of her character is to push our morality to the limits. There is no denying all of this. This isn't whining. I'm just stating facts.
I didn't feel betrayed i felt more let down than anything. After everything i did for her, she couldn't tell me the truth that she was communicating to someone without our knowledge. I knew she was being manipulated by the Stranger, by her making that bad choice it got people killed which she will have to live with; the same as when she left the gun on the counter and it resulted with Omid dying.
Imagine this, if Omid never died would Christa or her baby's situation have changed? I'm sure these are things that keep her awake at night.
He probably blamed us because he knew it was his fault but in his mind he wanted to justify that it wasn't his fault and the "evil" people ruined his life when in fact it was him
I mean, it's not like her not being brave doesn't present any interesting possibilities to develop her or Clementine or anyone as a character. Nor present any interesting situations. Or hard moral choices. Or anything for that matter.
Yeah the reason I said betrayed was that was my initial thought when I found out she went with him but after a bit i remembered how he said he had her parents in the 3rd episode
I didn't feel betrayed i felt more let down than anything. After everything i did for her, she couldn't tell me the truth that she was commu… morenicating to someone without our knowledge. I knew she was being manipulated by the Stranger, by her making that bad choice it got people killed which she will have to live with; the same as when she left the gun on the counter and it resulted with Omid dying.
Imagine this, if Omid never died would Christa or her baby's situation have changed? I'm sure these are things that keep her awake at night.
Ugh I've seen some of those adrenaline women, their facial hair is intimidating, not to mention their beefy body odor I wouldn't do that to poor little Sarah. She would cease to function.
Ugh I've seen some of those adrenaline women, their facial hair is intimidating, not to mention their beefy body odor I wouldn't do that to poor little Sarah. She would cease to function.
It's obviously Sarah changed the trajectory of the bullet with her mind, how did i not see this?! Seriously you blamming Sarah for Carlos' d… moreeath? Her mini noises were not attracting walkers, she was scared, even Nick was and he is a grown up, Sarah has not been exposed to the same things Clementine was, her dad died in front of her, dude you guys really gonna blame her for screaming? What if it was you then bang! Your dad get's shot in the neck, no matter how tough you are you would scream and cry, or you would be like: oh i don't care lets move on so don't blame Sarah because of that, her reaction was normal, i just get frickin mad when people blame child for her parents death, i had a situation like that and you don't know how it feels and if you do you should know she is not guilty in any way, neither for Sarita getting bit because it was Sarita's decision
To help her.
I agree she is annoying but you hate her way too much. insufferable? Yeah right, no. She is annoying but in the grand scheme of things, she has some psychological or mental issues (dont mean that in an offensive way). That does not make her a bad person. I don't mind her and if she survived right till the end its fine as long as she doesn't turn into a Lizzie type character. She couldn't cut those branches, which is somewhat silly but again, think about everything in the bigger picture. Carlos said she's not normal. So why punish her for that?
I agree she is annoying but you hate her way too much. insufferable? Yeah right, no. She is annoying but in the grand scheme of things, she … morehas some psychological or mental issues (dont mean that in an offensive way). That does not make her a bad person. I don't mind her and if she survived right till the end its fine as long as she doesn't turn into a Lizzie type character. She couldn't cut those branches, which is somewhat silly but again, think about everything in the bigger picture. Carlos said she's not normal. So why punish her for that?
As much as I wish to, no I haven't! The game probably isn't even finished xD But when the choices got leaked ... yeah some people knew what happens to her
Mine is adjustable with a sliding scale. The amount of alcohol i consume has a proportionality effect, and eventually i will reach I call drunk psychosis When i reach this state, there is no low point i will not go.
Larry was a prick and I was glad that he died. Duck was just a kooky little boy. Ben, as much as he was frustrating, there was sympathy ther… moree because he always had good intentions, but I still scolded him constantly for his actions.
Sarah is dull, annoying and useless. If TTG plan on keeping the character around for the next two episodes I seriously hope they give SOMETHING to like about her. It's almost like they are assuming we want to protect her purely for the fact she is a little girl... i'm sorry but that just doesn't cut it for me.
You are really grasping at straws now. The walkers breaking into the pharmacy wasn't a dangerous situation? Really? Lilly and Larry run away, and one of the group members gets eaten. Literally the only thing standing between a horde of walkers and Clem and everybody else was a door and Lee pushing against it.
The point is not to make a list of non-hub locations where Clem helped Lee, as fun as that may sound. Just because Lee did not blindly throw Clem in harm's way does not mean he was sheltering her at all. The point is that he depended on her on numerous occasions, so many times in fact that I seriously doubt that a truly sheltered girl like Sarah could ever reach such a level of bravery and usefulness in her own group.
I agree with "Lee knew Clem was a smart and capable young girl" but the walkers had still not broken in to the pharmacy at that point, he t… moreold Clem to find somthing for the door to keep her useful.
Please do a list When Lee allowed Clementime to be useful outside of hubs area before Chuck met Lee (excluding the air conditioning scene)
And I am not defending Carlos
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Yeah, I was pretty disappointed in her. Apparently her parents never taught her not to talk to strangers.
"Sarah has no redeeming qualities." Hm, I think you're forgetting who was the one that essentially saved Clem's life by giving her that peroxide in episode 1, and she stands up for Clem if you take the blame for the photo and if Carver hits her at the beginning of episode 3. The reason you see Sarah as a burden is because that's what Telltale wanted her to feel like to players, that's a part of her characterization, she's meant to serve as a foil to Clem to show what Clem would've been like if Lee hadn't taught her how to survive. And hating Sarah for reacting to her father's death is a pretty low blow.
Being a brave character surely doesn't hurt in the ZA... a character that is afraid and useless is surely less likely to survive.
Facts?
"Okay, that girl needs to just die already." Opinion, I(and a bunch of others) don't agree with this.
"Her father just died because because of her stupidity!" Wrong
"But yeah, I will say it again. Sarah, as a character, is a god awful one. Like I have said in previous comments, the girl has no redeeming qualities." Opinion
"Sorry to say, but she's a lost cause." Opinion
It's so wrong, It hurts! xD
It really pissed me off how he got mad at us for taking food and supplies that was in an opened up vehicle in the middle of the woods with no one around and called us out on the "bad" things we had done trying to survive
I think she will start becoming a stronger character just give her a chance
Didn't you realize it before she has telekineses!
Not to try and be rude to you OP but your points don't seem to make sense. I don't see how Sarah's supposed "stupidity" caused her fathers death. What's ironic is that it has been implied multiple times that due to her fathers sheltering she is actually intelligent (perhaps not in terms of common sense but I felt as though she had read a variety of different books and learnt different things).
Carlos was shot, whether it was on purpose, or a bullet that missed a nearby walker and hit him, or whatever the simple matter of fact is that he's dead.
WE GOTTA BE A BIG MAN. MAN UP.
Honest question here, do you have any idea what the term "Man up means?" If you mean to abandon a helpless grieving girl to die, because you find her frustrating we have different opinions.
I think he means turn into an adrenaline monster on steroids with huge muscles(or tits if a girl) and guns.
He probably blamed us because he knew it was his fault but in his mind he wanted to justify that it wasn't his fault and the "evil" people ruined his life when in fact it was him
Replace this with Nick and it'd be more correct
"She is almost intolerable" no she is not, you lack of tolerance wich is different. If theres people who can tolerate her behavior and understand it that doesn't make her intolerable that makes you a person with lack of tolerance, im not trying to be mean but that's the true and im sure more than one person agrees with this.
I didn't feel betrayed i felt more let down than anything. After everything i did for her, she couldn't tell me the truth that she was communicating to someone without our knowledge. I knew she was being manipulated by the Stranger, by her making that bad choice it got people killed which she will have to live with; the same as when she left the gun on the counter and it resulted with Omid dying.
Imagine this, if Omid never died would Christa or her baby's situation have changed? I'm sure these are things that keep her awake at night.
yeah he couldn't take the idea that he was the one that screwed over his family so he put blame on others so he wouldn't have to feel guilty
I mean, it's not like her not being brave doesn't present any interesting possibilities to develop her or Clementine or anyone as a character. Nor present any interesting situations. Or hard moral choices. Or anything for that matter.
Yeah the reason I said betrayed was that was my initial thought when I found out she went with him but after a bit i remembered how he said he had her parents in the 3rd episode
Ugh I've seen some of those adrenaline women, their facial hair is intimidating, not to mention their beefy body odor I wouldn't do that to poor little Sarah. She would cease to function.
Your opinion is wrong
-This Thread In a Nutshell
Oh, noes! What if Sarah was controlling the "magic bullet" that killed JFK???????
Facial hair?
More like:
Fuck you mine is better
I am sorry that you had to go through that, people are judgmental jerks generally. I lost my parents early too so i know how the guilt feels like.
I agree she is annoying but you hate her way too much. insufferable? Yeah right, no. She is annoying but in the grand scheme of things, she has some psychological or mental issues (dont mean that in an offensive way). That does not make her a bad person. I don't mind her and if she survived right till the end its fine as long as she doesn't turn into a Lizzie type character. She couldn't cut those branches, which is somewhat silly but again, think about everything in the bigger picture. Carlos said she's not normal. So why punish her for that?
Beacause! People's hearts turn black as night in the Zombie Apocalypse.
As much as I wish to, no I haven't! The game probably isn't even finished xD But when the choices got leaked ... yeah some people knew what happens to her
Carly with facial hair is still a strong six. Life is hard in the zombie Apocalypse.
6? I'd give it a 9, I've got high standards.
heh
"eye to eye"
kenny joke heh heh heh heh
I'll just be going now
Mine is adjustable with a sliding scale. The amount of alcohol i consume has a proportionality effect, and eventually i will reach I call drunk psychosis When i reach this state, there is no low point i will not go.
"Larry was a prick" opinion
"Duck was just a kooky little kid" opinion
"Sarah is dull, annoying and useless" again, flat-out opinion.
None of these are factual evidence.
You are really grasping at straws now. The walkers breaking into the pharmacy wasn't a dangerous situation? Really? Lilly and Larry run away, and one of the group members gets eaten. Literally the only thing standing between a horde of walkers and Clem and everybody else was a door and Lee pushing against it.
The point is not to make a list of non-hub locations where Clem helped Lee, as fun as that may sound. Just because Lee did not blindly throw Clem in harm's way does not mean he was sheltering her at all. The point is that he depended on her on numerous occasions, so many times in fact that I seriously doubt that a truly sheltered girl like Sarah could ever reach such a level of bravery and usefulness in her own group.
Heh, fucker....
(Another Kenny joke)
Fair enough.
That's what you get for touching Kenny.
M'fucker.
I like this thread. Every single thing you say starts an argument, and It's fun to watch.