Them funny Russians... [FINAL UPDATE]

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  • Isn't it when the frog gives him the coat and leaves him flipping him off? I don't remember exactly... It's been a while since I played it and FINISHED IT.

    Lingvort posted: »

    Yup. He can say that to Mr. Toad in Episode 4 while that ol' frog is leaving the "Lucky Pawn". Don't remember the exact circumstances, but it can happen.

  • Arvo is also slang for afternoon in Australia.

  • It's automatic.

    Think before you comment.

    nasmadoodle posted: »

    Then quit making Clem "struggle"

  • What does narks mean?

    I actually saw two tatoos on Buricko's cheeks that said "мочи сук, стукачей" ("kill bitches, narks").

  • There is no anti-jew protest (I didn't hear anything like that at least), maybe you mixed it up with the pro-palestinian protest because pro-Israelians and pro-Palestinians began to fight eachover and to break things in the streets.

    Anyway, the people who vote for the FN are a still a little minority and some of them are voting for the FN just to punish the actual governement so I am not worried about the FN at all.

    But, overall, France is a quite peacefull country in my opinion.

    I almost forgot about that, that France is having issues. Are the people still worshiping Hitler with their anti-jew protests? I feel like that got buried under the news after the shit hit the fan in Ukraine all thanks to Russia.

  • I know you hate it when I do that, but...

    Bump.

  • IDC really.

    Lingvort posted: »

    I know you hate it when I do that, but... Bump.

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  • What makes them villains? Jane(and Clem if you keep the bag) robbed Arvo and they're reciprocating. Nothing in the translated dialogue suggests they were overly malicious. You're hate mongering by deciding they're villains based on this interaction.

  • Wow you need to grow up bro.

  • I don't feel myself offended tbh. For me its more about their names (which are not russian obviously) and their accent.

  • I'm always baffled when a writer can't even get the names in a culture right in a world where google exists. After two seconds of typing, I pulled up this web site. Voila! Russian boys' names. Would that have been so hard?

  • Yes, otherwise they would have done it, but no, that's way too hard.

    I'm always baffled when a writer can't even get the names in a culture right in a world where google exists. After two seconds of typing, I pulled up this web site. Voila! Russian boys' names. Would that have been so hard?

  • dojo32161dojo32161 Moderator

    Now I want to learn Russian so I can laugh at them.

  • What is this thing "google" you speak of? ;)

    Anyway, good job on finding the site. However, I am a bit surprised that Sasha isn't in there. Odd.

    I'm always baffled when a writer can't even get the names in a culture right in a world where google exists. After two seconds of typing, I pulled up this web site. Voila! Russian boys' names. Would that have been so hard?

  • edited July 2014

    Why should it be? "Sasha" is a shortened form of "Alexander" (even though it sounds like it's out of place, it is what it is).

    What is this thing "google" you speak of? Anyway, good job on finding the site. However, I am a bit surprised that Sasha isn't in there. Odd.

  • I don't know if it's just me but I know quite a few Sashas and not Alexanders. I guess it must be similar to "John" and "Jonathon" a child can simply have the shorter name and that's it. Since Sasha is pretty popular, that's why I think it should be on there.

    Lingvort posted: »

    Why should it be? "Sasha" is a shortened form of "Alexander" (even though it sounds like it's out of place, it is what it is).

  • No, I disagree. Maybe there are a lot of Sashas in English-speaking countries, but if somebody is called "Sasha" in Russian-speaking country, his full name is most definitely "Alexander".

    I don't know if it's just me but I know quite a few Sashas and not Alexanders. I guess it must be similar to "John" and "Jonathon" a child c

  • I noticed the same thing. Especially the accent of those two. It was worse than my own accent, haha. I didn't mind that much, though. I actually liked that they brought in a foreign language to show not everything revolves around Americans only.

  • ...And they did a terrible job at it. Frankly, I would've gone along with the whole thing revolving around Americans than have these... Russians in the game.

    I noticed the same thing. Especially the accent of those two. It was worse than my own accent, haha. I didn't mind that much, though. I actually liked that they brought in a foreign language to show not everything revolves around Americans only.

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    Arvo is convincing because his voice actor is actually Russian. I'm surprised they didn't just get 3 more actual Russian Voice Actors and get them to make up the lines, at least then they'd be grammatically correct.

    Also these aren't really the first stereotypes in the game. Just look at Kenny XD

  • Yeah, Arvo is fine, unlike the rest. I don't know why they couldn't hire more Russian actors, the only reason I see is that they are not important enough, therefore there was no need to hire proper actors.

    Never said they were.

    JakeSt123 posted: »

    Arvo is convincing because his voice actor is actually Russian. I'm surprised they didn't just get 3 more actual Russian Voice Actors and ge

  • I have a feeling that the Buricko, Maud and Vitali will all be killed straight away in the shootout, and Arvo might be left behind. Maybe we'll get a [Kill] or [Spare] option for him or something like that.

    Lingvort posted: »

    Yeah, Arvo is fine, unlike the rest. I don't know why they couldn't hire more Russian actors, the only reason I see is that they are not important enough, therefore there was no need to hire proper actors. Never said they were.

  • Well, as long as killing him doesn't include further puncturing his guts instead of just breaking his neck, for example, I'm fine with that.

    JakeSt123 posted: »

    I have a feeling that the Buricko, Maud and Vitali will all be killed straight away in the shootout, and Arvo might be left behind. Maybe we'll get a [Kill] or [Spare] option for him or something like that.

  • Hello guys!

    At first, I'm Russian.
    Secondly, good job my Ukrainian brother (yes I still think we are brothers, no matter what our politicians say).

    About the topic... I just want to say that maybe these accents can be explained by the suggestion that they are not native Russians. For example the bald's accent sounds like in between of Bulgarian and American. If we suggest he is from Bulgaria (for example) where a lot of people studied Russian in school while USSR still exists it could be the answer to your claim to TT. Let's suggest he was born in Bulgaria, studied Russian there and then came to USA. His strange name (most likely nickname) could be given be somebody in USA already.
    Yes, this group was formed by the language attribute, all members have to speak and understand Russian, but it doesn't equal that all of them are native Russians at all.

  • Bigby prefers the the first option.

    Lingvort posted: »

    Well, as long as killing him doesn't include further puncturing his guts instead of just breaking his neck, for example, I'm fine with that.

  • Secondly, good job my Ukrainian brother (yes I still think we are brothers, no matter what our politicians say).

    When over 80% of population support these politicians and their actions, I don't think that the aforementioned fact is actually true. However, I have no wish to turn this into a political debate.

    A Bulgarian that purposefully speaks Russian? Why not speak Bulgarian and be done with it? No, I don't think this is an explanation, it only further complicates it. While it was stated by someone that "Buricko" could be a Bulgarian surname, I still don't think that TT actually had this in mind when envisioning him as a character.

    Hello guys! At first, I'm Russian. Secondly, good job my Ukrainian brother (yes I still think we are brothers, no matter what our polit

  • It's been a while since I did this, and I figured out it's time.

    Bump.

  • This is a bump post, but I've also added it to the OP.

    I must say that Russians in Episode 5 were handled better. There is one thing I'd like to criticize, but, overall, they were handled much better. My only criticism is this - Buricko and that couple of phrases he said.
    He says "They shot me!" ("Они застрелили меня!") despite the fact that the word "застрелили" refers more to a lethal shot, and is rarely used by a gunshot victim to refer to themselves.
    They way he says "застрелили" can be misinterpreted as "заслонили" ("covered"). And his accent was also pulling through, even though it wasn't unbearable, as the last time.

    Also, they changed Maud's name to "Natasha", which is good, for "Maud" wasn't a Russian name, but neither is Arvo, but Arvo is way more plausible than Maud.

    As for Vitaliy and Arvo, they (especially Vitaliy) were speaking like Russians, without accent, nonsensical phrases and overall without mistakes in their speech. Kudos to Telltale for that.

    Fifth Fleet out.

  • I guess i was right in the end ;) they died in the first 5 minutes besides Arvo.

    Lingvort posted: »

    Or didn't find actual Russians (yet they've managed perfectly fine to do so for Arvo). I guess you're right, they're just redshirts for the next episode and their lifespans won't be long.

  • Heh, I guess you were. I'm glad that they at least fixed Vitaliy, and, to an extent, Buricko, even though they both were redshirts.

    TheJack posted: »

    I guess i was right in the end they died in the first 5 minutes besides Arvo.

  • Hey lingvort, at one point, the kid says something like "Pojalzdi pojalzdi" what was that ?

    (and I agree about the terrible accent one of them had, funny american accent xD)

  • Arvo and Vitali had the same VA

  • To be fair I dont think the names matter. I mean clementine isnt a common name but there it is

    Lingvort posted: »

    This is a bump post, but I've also added it to the OP. I must say that Russians in Episode 5 were handled better. There is one thing I'd

  • Names do matter. "Clementine" is a name derived from its masculine form "Clement", which is prevalent (even if it's rare) in Western countries. Meeting at least one Clementine and expect her to be from some Western country is completely possible. Meeting Maud and expect her to be from a Russian-speaking country has the lowest percentage of possibility, and that's mostly because some parents can get really imaginative with their kids' names.

    To be fair I dont think the names matter. I mean clementine isnt a common name but there it is

  • ...Which proved to be a right decision in the end. Maybe this thread did serve its purpose.

    zeke10 posted: »

    Arvo and Vitali had the same VA

  • I guess he says "Пощади! Пощади!" ("Poschiady! Poschiady!") which can be translated as "Spare me!" or, more precisely "Mercy!".

    phadeb posted: »

    Hey lingvort, at one point, the kid says something like "Pojalzdi pojalzdi" what was that ? (and I agree about the terrible accent one of them had, funny american accent xD)

  • Yea, and Buricko and Natasha's voice actors is unknown...

    zeke10 posted: »

    Arvo and Vitali had the same VA

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