Empathy, Humanity, Survival. Who have you become?

edited August 2014 in The Walking Dead

So in the certain ending I think these 3 represent the followings below. (i haven't seen all endings yet)

Empathy - Kenny: We have history together and we know exactly why he ended up like this. He has lost so much (i know that everyone did but he obviously can't deal with it like them) the anger problems of his are terrifying sometimes.. But he's still that good old Kenny that we know.. He was ready to sacrifice himself for us, he's not a madman..

Humanity - Jane: She proved that she wanted to belong to the group, and she wasn't that selfish as we might think. She gave up on her lonely survivor lifestyle, but this doomed her. She implied rebecca to do something with "it" before the labour however in the end Jane wanted to protect Alvin Jr and Clementine and I respect her for this, yet her final act wasn't smart and sane either.. Let's just say i don't agree with it.

Survival - Wellington: Ok so you can stay in Wellington but the price is to let go of Kenny. I think this speaks for itself.

So If you look away, you loose Jane and probably a part of your humanity.. If you just shoot Kenny to save Jane then humanity is stronger in you than the empathy for Kenny. And staying in Wellington means survival is the most important thing for you.. more important than family, which is Kenny. (at least for me)

So what's your opinions guys? What did you do and who have you become? Share with me please!

My Clementine protected the baby, tried to help Luke, didn't ask to leave with Mike, looked away and stayed with Kenny and the baby. And i don't regret any of it.

This might be really just something that i was wondering, it's argueable so don't eat me alive this is my first thread here :D

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  • I killed Kenny, and left Jane for lying to me. I guess it's all about survival for my Clementine now.

  • edited August 2014

    My Clementine protected the baby, tried to save Luke, called for Kenny and Jane, shot Kenny, stayed with Jane and let the family in.

    My only real regret was letting the "family" in. They lied to us straight away, so...

  • I think you are right. That makes sense. Even though I shot Kenny, I regret it now. Then I didnt forgive Jane and ended up with AJ in the fields.

  • edited August 2014

    My Clementine was empathetic and caring. I did stay behind in Wellington however. The only reason why I did was because I did not want the cabin groups deaths, especially Luke's, to be in vain. Too many people died for her to just walk away.

    I do question my choice though. :/ I felt horrible for Kenny and did not want Clementine to be alone, separated from the people she knew. I might go back and change it depending on if I like the alternative choice better.

  • My Clementine is an eleven years old alcoholic smoker.

    She's with Jane, Junior and the family, but I don't know if it was the right choice. I barely trust Jane, and I went with her mostly because Clem and the baby couldn't make it on their own, and I don't like our new "guests".

  • edited August 2014

    Double post.

  • i think being alone with the baby is the opposite of survival, it's more like suicidal

    I killed Kenny, and left Jane for lying to me. I guess it's all about survival for my Clementine now.

  • I left Wellington with Kenny.
    Maybe I should've stayed in Wellington, because so many people tried to save my life in cost of their own.

    But I know I really want to see more about Clem's destiny. I'm not expecting to see her as the main character of the third season but a DLC like 400 Days would be nice !

  • From the sounds of it I'm glad I went my own way. Some might say that's suicidal. Honestly? I think that baby is dead no matter what happens. 4 years! 4 years of this? When clementine can barely make it with a full group of survivors? I'll do my best, but I don't have high hopes.

    I bet the penultimate choice of Season 3 will be you or the baby. Start preparing yourselves folks.

  • Unfortunately Wellington was a bad idea in the first place.. So many people got killed for nothing..

    quinnics posted: »

    My Clementine was empathetic and caring. I did stay behind in Wellington however. The only reason why I did was because I did not want the c

  • edited August 2014

    Chose to go with Kenny to the end and decided to let Jane die (Didn't stay in Wellington)

    Staying in one place wasn't a way for me to go....i know that place is going to fall. you know they had a capacity problem. i think travelling and exploring is way better. especially with a good friend. my best bro

  • It's interesting because my Clementine was more survival oriented by Episode Four, but in Episode Five, Jane of all people swayed her towards becoming a bit more the person she really is and was in Season One. She shared a bond with Jane that was close, and that brought about her humanity in the end when she forgave Jane.

  • Humanity.

  • And we don't know what kind of place it is. Could be good or bad, but they surely had problems.

    Blinx posted: »

    Chose to go with Kenny to the end and decided to let Jane die (Didn't stay in Wellington) Staying in one place wasn't a way for me to go.

  • My Clementine is a ghost of her former self. She kills when necessary. She's a mix of empathy and humanity. As a wise man once said, we focus way too much on stayin alive that we forget to enjoy living. Even if everything goes to shit, Clem will live for the smiles, for the laughter, seeing AJ grow up, and she will live for happiness. That is who she is.

  • Empathy

  • edited August 2014

    I killed Kenny, go with Jane, and chase away with my gun the new group. I'm going and i'm survival, after what i see after 2 seasons, i really dont care about others survivors, always the same shit, so now, who try to come in our camp,or approaching, try to rob us, or doing anything againt us, will get a bullet in the middle of eyes. I'm staying with Jane and AJ only, and now, i can do anything for them.

    I got it, when i saw Mike, Bonnie, friends, trying to rob us (killing us finaly), and to put us in the shit already we got a baby. You never know people..

  • I absolutely agree. Plus I think it was way worse when we had a group. Everyone constantly at each others throats. Kenny's insatiable pipe dream showing the worst in people.

    As I've said before... My Clementine may not be happy, but she's safe now.

    Aptonoth posted: »

    From the sounds of it I'm glad I went my own way. Some might say that's suicidal. Honestly? I think that baby is dead no matter what happens

  • I tried for my Clem to be neutral in all fights and kinda frivolous and funny when she could, but when it's came to choice who's gonna live I saved Jane and forgave her. And when the family showed up I just decided that my Clem have to realize that it's not safe to trust outsiders. As it turned out, I was right about 'em.
    I think that this ending is the best for my Clem. With Jane she would probably live long and not that bad live as it might've been with Kenny with his hysteric character. They'll make it.

  • My Clementine did what I thought was right for her, she's still trying to to keep her humanity, and from her POV, she saw Kenny trying to kill Jane for accidentally losing AJ (which is what she had told him). So yeah my Clem ended up back at Howe's Hardware with Jane and AJ and we took in the family.

  • My Clementine didn't say anything about Arvo, she was always silent and with no side, until he was yelling at Arvo in the power plant thing, I told him not to ruin our nice night, and when he was beating him in the house, I told him to stop.

    My Clementine covered Luke because Luke told me to, I wasn't going to go against him. After Luke and Bonnie both fell in, I broke the ice. When she talked to Kenny in the car, she stayed on Kenny's side. When Mike tried to disarm her, she held it up high, then she got shot.

    My Clementine sided with Jane in the argument because she could see Kenny getting WAY out of hand faster.

    My Clementine, even though Jane told me not to do anything, she tried to stop the fight by helping the vulnerable person at the time, so whoever was on top she removed. In the end, as much as my Clementine loved Kenny, she couldn't just look away, she thought it was the wrong thing to do, and she shot Kenny. When my Clem found out that Jane hid the baby, she left Jane. No way could my Clementine stay with somebody who got her best friend killed to prove a point. My Clementine is alone with AJ, in the most logical ending for her.

    My Clementine does what feels right, not what feels forced. She is neutral in fights, and does the right thing, even if it means losing the person you love.

  • BigBlindMaxBigBlindMax Banned
    edited August 2014

    Welcome! Do stay awhile.

    My Clementine made a hard shift toward survival at the end, shooting Kenny and leaving Jane behind, but I definitely agree that killing Kenny is the humane choice. Kenny was at the end of his rope and even he knew it. There's no way Clem could have looked him in the eye, knowing that she let him kill Jane in cold-blooded. Putting Kenny down was horrible, but it was an incredibly selfless act of kindness. Clem killed the person dearest to her (and part of herself) to save him from becoming a monster.

    Sound familiar?

  • edited August 2014

    Survival - Wellington: Ok so you can stay in Wellington and abandon Kenny. I think this speaks for itself.

    I will have to disagree with that. You don't "abandon" him. You give him...peace. Relief. Because he acknowledges who he is : Kenny knows he can't take care of Clem & AJ. He knows that if something happens to either of them, he will go crazy and desperate. In the entire game Kenny and Clementine have suffered the most out of anybody else. As Molly said a long long time ago, your luck WILL run out. It's just a matter of time.

    When you leave him at Wellington, what happens then ? Well, it means that he accomplished his role, he did what he wanted, he kept his promises, Lee would have probably made the same decision, and I think that sticking with him is cruel AND selfish. You don't allow him to have his wish come true (you and AJ in a seemingly super safe environment). Worse, you become his burden that he will have to carry until a very painful ending to the walkers or who knows what... Can you imagine how guilty and awful he would feel if Clem & AJ died with him ? My god. The poor man already took enough. Atleast, that's my opinion :D

    (Plus the scene when you leave him there is so emotional - It's really nicely done)

  • Even if they all had made it, they would be turned away. Tragic.

    SoMuchSass posted: »

    Unfortunately Wellington was a bad idea in the first place.. So many people got killed for nothing..

  • In the end, trust it's all that matters. My Clementine left Wellington with Good Ol' Kenny. It's what Lee wanted, plus... Christa might still be out there and Trust is hard to come around these days.... Wellington seemed like a good Safe place but for How long..? We may not be Safe and Sound but, Hey we have made it this far haven't we? We stick together no matter what. Until the end.

  • You're right. It was not the right word to use, I corrected it :)
    Maybe it was selfish, but i didn't want to let him die. He was good in the heart and i wanted to stick with him, maybe share a little bit of happiness if that's possible..

    Alunkkar posted: »

    Survival - Wellington: Ok so you can stay in Wellington and abandon Kenny. I think this speaks for itself. I will have to disagree with t

  • If we got this far by not staying in one place the whole time, surely we can keep going at a better chance of survival.

    SoMuchSass posted: »

    And we don't know what kind of place it is. Could be good or bad, but they surely had problems.

  • Yea I can understand that point of view too. In fact I might have been too harsh when I said that it was a "cruel and selfish" decision, and it's mainly because I didn't feel as connected to Kenny as other people were, and most of the time I didn't side with him. But Telltale made him as a very likeable character, despite all his flaws (god knows he has a lot of them) he has great, great qualities that can make up for most of his bad temper. So I can understand that people feel a strong bound and loyalty to him. Thinking about it, Telltale did a really good job with him. Certainly in the top 5 characters in my book.

    SoMuchSass posted: »

    You're right. It was not the right word to use, I corrected it Maybe it was selfish, but i didn't want to let him die. He was good in the heart and i wanted to stick with him, maybe share a little bit of happiness if that's possible..

  • It's all right. I agree with you, he's a well-made character. I'm so attached to him, though in real life i probably wouldn't like him if i want to be honest.
    He can be so annoying sometimes and lately he became dangerous, but i still believe he's not a lost case.

    Alunkkar posted: »

    Yea I can understand that point of view too. In fact I might have been too harsh when I said that it was a "cruel and selfish" decision, and

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