New protagonist in season 3, but Clementine as deuteragonist
I think it would be the best to play a new character in season 3, but Clementine being the deuteragonist like in season 1. Maybe our new protagonist meets her and they try to survive together. What do you think?
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As far as I'm concerned, if Clem is in the game I want to play as her. It would be too jarring for me to have her in the game but be in control of someone else who is with her.
Nah. Clem. I want to play as Clem.
Yeah I wholeheartedly agree. Best season of TWD did already have Clem as deuteragonist anyway.
No thanks. Unless is Lee magically revived I'll stay with Clementine. Being Lee was the general purpose of building up to being Clementine in the Second Season. We trained her into being able to take care of herself.
If it got downgraded back to a new character with Clem as the secondary I don't think it would work well from a writer's perspective for one thing (since it generally contradicts how the story was being presented) but a majority of the fanbase wouldn't be happy with that decision either.
If Season Three were to still follow Clem (and I think it still should since she's been the only major character to appear in all the episodes) it should focus on an older Clem taking care of AJ in a similar way to how Lee took care of Clementine. Symbolically in a sense.
I Want to Play As Clem in the next Season
I think it would be cool if you play as more than one protagonist including Clem in Season 3
You know, I do agree tbh. I mean, it was fun playing as Clem but I just really cared about her a lot less as the protagonist....
Only Clem
If it happens,I want to see Clem behave differently with us based on the person we made her become. If you made her become a lone survivor who doesn't trust anyone anymore, she wouldn't help us if we needed her and she could even let us die. But if we made her become a kind and compassionate person who likes to be in a group, she would always have our back and she would save our life.
I feel that this would be great for the evolution of her character and how we see her because in season 1 and 2 we get to raise her, in season 3 it would be good to see the payoff.
How about no ?
"Season one was not Lee's story, it was already Clementine's story", "The Walking Dead would be sh*t without Clementine"
This stuff always makes me cringe very bad. Season one WAS Lee's story, and if I enjoyed it so much and was so moved by its ending was because I completely identified with Lee and felt what he felt. I loved Clementine's role in his/my story, and did not regret the sacrifice of this wonderful character.
But allow people to have the opinion that Clementine as a protagonist was not as great. It didn't work that great to me. I still loved playing, enjoyed the story and the characters, but my season 2 experience doesn't even compare with my season one experience.
About a new protagonist and Clementine as NPC
That's a fact, can't deny that, but
Nah, it's purely your opinion, and most probably untrue.
I think the whole TWD series by Telltale is Clementine's story.
this man!!
no season one was Lee's story, clementine was just a plot point in his story ie. someone he had to protect.
kenny was a bigger part of season one than clementine, so you could more accurately say the whole TWD series by Telltale is Kenny's story.
but it still wouldn't be true, season one was about Lee, 400 days was about Vince, Bonnie, Russell, Wyatt and Shel, season 2 was about clementine.
it may be easier to feel like season ones story was about clementine because Lee died and because once lee died the developers pushed the idea that it was about clementine hard because they felt they needed a season two protagonist and clementine was the best they could come up with, but it was Lee's story.
I honestly don't have that impression.
I'd prefer a tritagonist Clem over protagonist or deuteragonist.
I wouldn't feel comfortable as playing any other character than Clem. The connection after 2 seasons is too deep to just go on and play random character X in Season 3. And the non random characters we got to know are either dead or completely unlikeable. (from my point of view).
Actually, it was. The Foreshadowing of future events was happening as early as Long Road Ahead. Heck I remember back when just the third episode of Season One came out people were already speculating that it was a possibility. Yes, that early.
I see where you're coming from, in general yes. Season One was Lee's story. No doubt about that. He was you in the first game and you protected Clementine while still hoping to do what's best for her future. And, I prefer Lee myself as the protagonist and I even like his character more. So don't think I'm just jumping a bandwagon of boycotting Clementine.
Simply put, a new protagonist with Clem as a major character just wouldn't work in my opinion at all. The transition from Lee to her felt perfect since I was the one who guided her as Lee in the First Season. I don't want to just play as this new stranger who doesn't know Clementine at all. Because at the end of the day, being Clementine in Season Two did still make the story feel more personal. If I was playing as someone else and wanting to know more about Clementine it wouldn't work since we already know her very well since we were her father figure in the first season, and literally HER in the second season.
And thus far, Clementine has had the most appearances of any other character. The series as a whole revolves around her as of now no matter what counter-argument you bring up. I'm not completely against a new main character. But only if it's called something else other than "Season 3". I wouldn't even see the point of it being a Season Three if it follows a brand new story-arc.
And no, I'm very sure what I brought up above are valid points on why it wouldn't work on a writer's perspective.
I got into more detail about it on this post here:
http://www.telltalegames.com/community/discussion/78158/how-clem-can-work-as-the-season-3-protagonist
i felt totally disconnected from the protagonist (clementine) this season, season one was about Lee, who was just some guy (anybody) season 2 is about clementine who is clementine (clementine the character) i wasn't me at all this season i was clementine whereas lee was me.
i actually think a whole new set of characters would be better than clementine as the second main character in terms of story and immersion (far less baggage) but i think a compromise would be to still have clementine in the next season just hopefully not as the protagonist.
i wanted season two to be about a whole set of new characters i think the walking dead game season one was good because it wasn't tied to the comic it was it's own thing, and i think it would have been better if each season was it's own thing about different survivors set all around the usa and maybe even the world.
it would still be the walking dead game to me if it was always new characters just like 400 days was the walking dead game.
I can't see him being Clem's guardian but it would be awesome to play as him!
I'd be completely comfortable with the idea of continuing with Clementine as the protagonist (and primary controllable character) in Season 3. However, I think one very interesting way of introducing a new protagonist (while still including Clementine as a continuing character in-game) would be to draw upon the excellent "home movie" cut-scene in the Season 2, Episode 5 trailer. The one where we see Clementine talking on the phone with her mom about discovering the baby raccoons nesting in her treehouse.
I think it would be cool if Season 3 opened with someone finding that video camcorder at Clementine's house and viewing that tape. And I think it would be ideal if it was someone who already knows Clementine and came looking to find her...say, another family member? Her uncle perhaps? And that could be the protagonist for Season 3. Meanwhile, the storyline of Clementine (which has been interwoven through Season 1, Season 2, and potentially Season 3) could continue as we control someone who's trying to find her. That way, the early parts of Season 3's story could focus on everything this other family member experiences in rejoining Clementine, including encountering characters like Bonnie, Mike, Arvo, and so on.
By Episode 3 or 4, hopefully the new protagonist and Clementine could finally meet up. Then, it would be a matter of this relative doing everything within their power to keep her safe (much like Lee and Kenny have done in the first two seasons)...only, they'd also be continually surprised at just how capable and resilient Clementine has become. To me, I think a story arc like that would satisfy both camps (i.e., those who want to continue to experience Clementine's story, and those who also want to play someone else as the controllable character). Additionally, it might even be interesting if the game allowed you to switch protagonists somewhere around midway...or at least give you some moments where you get to take control of Clementine again...even if only briefly in order to play through a certain encounter/challenge before switching back for the finale.
In the end, it doesn't really matter. The storylines have been strong for both Season 1 and Season 2 so far. And the controllable characters/protagonists have continued to enhance and expand the overall experience for the Walking Dead game. I suspect I'll be happy no matter which direction the writers go.
But that's just my two cents,
--Neil
It was confirmed by Telltale that The Walking Dead Game has always been centered on Clementine's story. Lee was more or less deuteragonist of Season 1.
No way, Clem all the way.
no, i think that was just telltales spin to sell season two
They confirmed this before Season 2 was even announced, I believe.
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2012/12/26/creating-clementine.aspx
New protagonist is a-ok in my opinion. I'd want a new protagonist, but I will buy no matter what.
to sell season 2,
they may have even come up with it before season one ended because they knew lee was gonna die, i even think that is why they made clementine progressively older throughout season one because the knew they had a success on their hands and they wanted to make another game, but that doesn't make season one about clementine or the whole of the walking dead game about clementine, it just means they have good marketing spin
Well, that's an interesting conspiracy theory... I think I'll just believe what the developers themselves said.
As much as I'd love to play as Clementine in Season 3, I don't see it happening. Season 2 had five very distinct endings. While it would be awesome if Telltale made five branching paths right from the get-go with Season 3, I honestly don't see it happening in a million years. And if Season 3 were to start off more or less the same regardless of the player's ending in Season 2, I feel like that would really cheapen the experience of deciding Clementine's fate at the end of Season 2. I think these also apply to having Clem as a deuteragonist.
So, while it would be awesome, I just don't see it happening.
it's based on fact, she started in episode one just finishing first grade, then she was later found to be 8, then it turns out she had a birthday and she was nine, they knew they couldn't have a 6 year old protagonist so they aged her during the season, and 9 was still too young so they added the time skip.
don't believe everything you read
"i felt totally disconnected from the protagonist (clementine) this season,"
People always say that, but I'm actually the complete opposite on that... I was more emotionally connected to her character than every before this season actually.
well, it's not just me then
Still open to the idea of arvo being the season 3 protagonist, I am.
"Sigh" Where is the down vote button when u need it?
Well, that may be a bit of an over-exaggeration but I've seen a fair amount of users say that. A majority of people still emotionally connected to her character though, myself included.
I've said multiple times, I would like a season with a different playable character and Clem being the side one, whose attitude will depend on your ending/choices....
You're going delusional. Clementine says she's 8 in episode 1
HELL YES!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well, the Lord of the Rings is centered on Frodo, but the story would have been much less fascinating if all had been viewed from his unique point of view.
I advocated on several threads for multiple protagonists.
What I want is not get rid completely of Clementine as protagonist, but not to be eternally stuck with her as the character through which we experience the zombie apocalypse and the amazing variety of situations this background offers.
Besides 11 (or 12 if season 3 takes place some months later, whatever) year-old protagonist means you experience the world and relationships in other ways than adults.
It would be nice to get a taste again of being an adult in the ZA.
I would sign with both hands for two protagonists, Clementine and a complete new adult character, whose plotlines would reunite at some point in the game. (and not one episode per protagonist, but playing each at least once within each episode)
what do you mean by emotionally connected? i was talking about feeling like i was in the situation lee was in, as in i was lee
emotionally connected sounds like you really liked/loved her character, is that what you mean?
An older Clem? Yes! Same age Clem? No.
It means being more invested into the story now, more than ever before. As someone who played through the first season as they were coming out, I was invested into seeing what happened next and loved speculating on it. But this season more so than ever before I wanted to see what would happen next.
Emotionally invested is a better way to describe it.