With all the shit Arvo has done, do you think he deserved the treatment he got from Kenny? This might become an Arvo hate thread, but I'm curious to see the community's opinion on this. Oh, I also found this on Reddit.
I said this in another coment before but i will say it again Arvo is a huge fucking moron and i feel sorry Kenny didn't kill him . Why ? simple , when i meet Arvo the first time I belived his storry about his sick sister and let him keep the madicine bag (that he stole from his ppl most likely ) , and he left with the bag of meds with him , Jane only keept the gun , and then when Arvos gang suround Clems group he tells the russians that Clem robbed him , wich was a big lie , but he still said it . He could say that someone else robbed him but he did not say anything , even when Kenny told Arvo to tell his men to put the guns down and talk about it , Arvo ignored him and continued on with the lie that Clem stole from him . So in the end the death of his siter is all on his hands , so as for Kenny treating him like he did . well how would you treat some randome idiot that almost killed all youre friends ? Well this is my oppinon , no hate intended.
Maybe he was forced? Everyone has lost people, but the deaths of their loved ones have different affects on them, don't forget the fact that the group endangered and practically caused the death of an entire Community, the only excuse was that they wanted to get away from a psychopath who ruled a Community that had enough supplies and resources for them to live with.
After the death of Luke i wanted to beat him up, but when Kenny started it i immediately stopped him. It was stupid to keep him alive though.. who could ever forgive someone who kill all of their friends?
They had to escape, it's the others' fault no one stood up to that sadistic psychopath before them... They saved them, actually.
And yeah maybe, but that little bastard could've said that it wasn't Clem who took the supplies, and that only Jane bullied him around and took his gun, Clem had nothing to do with it and they wanted to kill the whole fucking group for that dumb shit.
And then he has the nerve to say "fuck you" to Kenny? And shooting Clem?! He caused the death of Luke (and for some people Bonnie, too), he's a bastard and I can only hope he's dead by now.
Maybe he was forced? Everyone has lost people, but the deaths of their loved ones have different affects on them, don't forget the fact that… more the group endangered and practically caused the death of an entire Community, the only excuse was that they wanted to get away from a psychopath who ruled a Community that had enough supplies and resources for them to live with.
He didn't deserve being beaten half to death, but I don't think much of Mike babying him either. Especially since they were prepared to take him and not Clem. Then the little shit shot her.
I would have prefered to just cut him loose somewhere.
Well it didn't seem like most of them disliked Carver, Bonnie herself respected Carver, maybe the past played a role in who Carver became? Like Jane said, he was probably a different man before.
I do hate Arvo, mainly for shooting Clementine, but why keep killing at all? The group killed off almost all of the Russians, Jane only scared Arvo as a precaution while Kenny bullied Arvo out of anger, I'm not saying he doesn't deserve it, but everybody makes mistakes, everybody has those days.
He says fuck you to Kenny because he is endlessly bullied by him, almost beaten to death by him, killing is never the right answer, by now it seems that the living are the ones who are killing the living, the dead seem to play a minor role, you can blame Arvo but you can't do so without blaming Kenny, Jane, Luke, everyone... for all their past mistakes, I do hate Arvo for shooting Clementine, that got me steamed, actually, Luke was shot, which is probably the reason he sank, Arvo indirectly caused his death, as for Bonnie, she also can indirectly cause Luke's death and her own, it doesn't seem as though they were thinking logically, unlike Luke who knew the consequences of the situation he was in.
They had to escape, it's the others' fault no one stood up to that sadistic psychopath before them... They saved them, actually.
And yeah… more maybe, but that little bastard could've said that it wasn't Clem who took the supplies, and that only Jane bullied him around and took his gun, Clem had nothing to do with it and they wanted to kill the whole fucking group for that dumb shit.
And then he has the nerve to say "fuck you" to Kenny? And shooting Clem?! He caused the death of Luke (and for some people Bonnie, too), he's a bastard and I can only hope he's dead by now.
It wasn't directly his fault for Luke, but that smirk he gave after you reach the unfinished house said it all to me.
For me, this was very much a case of the group should of just left him behind. He'd done enough damage already and in his condition, there was no way he would keep up with Clem's group.
He leads his friends to you whether you take the meds or not. It's not his fault that Luke fell through the ice.
I wanted to kill him on the observation deck.
I said this in another coment before but i will say it again Arvo is a huge fucking moron and i feel sorry Kenny didn't kill him . Why ? sim… moreple , when i meet Arvo the first time I belived his storry about his sick sister and let him keep the madicine bag (that he stole from his ppl most likely ) , and he left with the bag of meds with him , Jane only keept the gun , and then when Arvos gang suround Clems group he tells the russians that Clem robbed him , wich was a big lie , but he still said it . He could say that someone else robbed him but he did not say anything , even when Kenny told Arvo to tell his men to put the guns down and talk about it , Arvo ignored him and continued on with the lie that Clem stole from him . So in the end the death of his siter is all on his hands , so as for Kenny treating him like he did . well how would you treat some randome idiot that almost killed all youre friends ? Well this is my oppinon , no hate intended.
I didn't stole his meds,I tried to talk to him and I protected him from Kenny.And after all that shit,he shoots Clem in the shoulder like the fucking shitbird he is.Kenny should've hit him harder.
Well it didn't seem like most of them disliked Carver, Bonnie herself respected Carver, maybe the past played a role in who Carver became? L… moreike Jane said, he was probably a different man before.
I do hate Arvo, mainly for shooting Clementine, but why keep killing at all? The group killed off almost all of the Russians, Jane only scared Arvo as a precaution while Kenny bullied Arvo out of anger, I'm not saying he doesn't deserve it, but everybody makes mistakes, everybody has those days.
He says fuck you to Kenny because he is endlessly bullied by him, almost beaten to death by him, killing is never the right answer, by now it seems that the living are the ones who are killing the living, the dead seem to play a minor role, you can blame Arvo but you can't do so without blaming Kenny, Jane, Luke, everyone... for all their past mistakes, I do hate Arvo for shooting Clementine, that got me steamed, actually, Luke was shot, which is probabl… [view original content]
He deserved the beating, I don't care if he experiences pain, he deserves pain.
And trust me, killing is the only answer in a lot of situations, some people are just not fit to live in this world because all they do is hurt others who didn't deserve it.
Well it didn't seem like most of them disliked Carver, Bonnie herself respected Carver, maybe the past played a role in who Carver became? L… moreike Jane said, he was probably a different man before.
I do hate Arvo, mainly for shooting Clementine, but why keep killing at all? The group killed off almost all of the Russians, Jane only scared Arvo as a precaution while Kenny bullied Arvo out of anger, I'm not saying he doesn't deserve it, but everybody makes mistakes, everybody has those days.
He says fuck you to Kenny because he is endlessly bullied by him, almost beaten to death by him, killing is never the right answer, by now it seems that the living are the ones who are killing the living, the dead seem to play a minor role, you can blame Arvo but you can't do so without blaming Kenny, Jane, Luke, everyone... for all their past mistakes, I do hate Arvo for shooting Clementine, that got me steamed, actually, Luke was shot, which is probabl… [view original content]
That's what i think he was doing anywey , remember when Clem and Jane first meet him , he was hiding the medicine for his sister , why would you hide meds from your group unles they don't aprove of what you are doing with them .
You know, I've only just thought of that. It's a good theory on what Arvo was doing with the supplies.
Was Arvo stealing supplies from his group, got caught and blamed Clem's group? Makes sense.
He gave Clem a death glare as soon as they reached the house, after she'd fallen through the lake and was freezing to death.
That proved to me that he really wanted her dead.
Lee could've killed people as a solution to many of his problems, but he could choose not to kill them and still found another solution. Idk I just don't like how killing someone else whose trying to survive is a necessity for your own survival now, if I lived in a world with the ZA I would probably be popped for not killing :x
You pulled off a Hannah Montana dude xD
He deserved the beating, I don't care if he experiences pain, he deserves pain.
And trust me, … morekilling is the only answer in a lot of situations, some people are just not fit to live in this world because all they do is hurt others who didn't deserve it.
Guess it depends what choices you made. For example in mine I robbed him, killed his sister and friends, and let Kenny beat on him a few days. Little wonder he hated me so much.
In a playthrough where you gave him back his medical supplies? Suddenly he's a lot less sympathetic.
No, he didn't. Kenny was just plain cruel to the poor kid when the entire time he was telling the truth about the house and the supplies. Arvo didn't deserve anything that Kenny gave him.
And then he shoots Clem, at which point I stop giving a fuck. I'm cool with Kenny beating the everloving shit out of him after that (If only that ACTUALLY could have happened), but up until that point Arvo had really done nothing that warranted the verbal abuse and the beatings.
I just don't see another good solution with Arvo, he's proven himself to be untrustworthy, dumb and hasty, also a careless manipulator that went telling on Clementine to his Russian buff friends for something she wasn't even to blame for.
Lee could've killed people as a solution to many of his problems, but he could choose not to kill them and still found another solution. Idk… more I just don't like how killing someone else whose trying to survive is a necessity for your own survival now, if I lived in a world with the ZA I would probably be popped for not killing :x
Arvo did lie when he met Clem. I understand that fact. Everyone can lie when they meet strangers in this world. However, he did lie again when he meet Clem again, and tried to rob with his group. Besides, I think Luke died because of him.
Arvo did lie when he met Clem. I understand that fact. Everyone can lie when they meet strangers in this world. However, he did lie again when he meet Clem again, and tried to rob with his group. Besides, I think Luke died because of him.
Y'know, I wish I could be kinder to the guy. But, yes, he deserved it. You don't fuck with somebody and expect to just be left alone because you lost the fight you chose to start.
Plus, if Arvo was helping the group by being Kenny's 'punching bag' and taking the rut of his anger for the time he was with us... I'm perfectly fine with that.
Y'know, I wish I could be kinder to the guy. But, yes, he deserved it. You don't fuck with somebody and expect to just be left alone because… more you lost the fight you chose to start.
Plus, if Arvo was helping the group by being Kenny's 'punching bag' and taking the rut of his anger for the time he was with us... I'm perfectly fine with that.
i think he did idc what anyone says he was the one who caused the shootout there was no need to come back for the group and the second you shot his undead sister he gives clem that death stare basically saying i'm going to kill you and he did attempt it in fact i don't understand how people are actually feeling sorry for him usually if anyone hurts clem in anyway people flip out and forever hate that character weird huh?
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He leads his friends to you whether you take the meds or not. It's not his fault that Luke fell through the ice.
I wanted to kill him on the observation deck.
He kinda did.
He didn't deserve to be bullied, it was kind of obvious that he didn't want to do it and he felt some guilt, he lost his sister...
I said this in another coment before but i will say it again Arvo is a huge fucking moron and i feel sorry Kenny didn't kill him . Why ? simple , when i meet Arvo the first time I belived his storry about his sick sister and let him keep the madicine bag (that he stole from his ppl most likely ) , and he left with the bag of meds with him , Jane only keept the gun , and then when Arvos gang suround Clems group he tells the russians that Clem robbed him , wich was a big lie , but he still said it . He could say that someone else robbed him but he did not say anything , even when Kenny told Arvo to tell his men to put the guns down and talk about it , Arvo ignored him and continued on with the lie that Clem stole from him . So in the end the death of his siter is all on his hands , so as for Kenny treating him like he did . well how would you treat some randome idiot that almost killed all youre friends ? Well this is my oppinon , no hate intended.
They all lost people, it's not an excuse to lie to your group and make them kill you...
In my opinion, yes. I didn't care if he got beaten to death, and honestly after he shot Clementine I really hope he's brutally mauled out there.
Maybe he was forced? Everyone has lost people, but the deaths of their loved ones have different affects on them, don't forget the fact that the group endangered and practically caused the death of an entire Community, the only excuse was that they wanted to get away from a psychopath who ruled a Community that had enough supplies and resources for them to live with.
After the death of Luke i wanted to beat him up, but when Kenny started it i immediately stopped him. It was stupid to keep him alive though.. who could ever forgive someone who kill all of their friends?
They had to escape, it's the others' fault no one stood up to that sadistic psychopath before them... They saved them, actually.
And yeah maybe, but that little bastard could've said that it wasn't Clem who took the supplies, and that only Jane bullied him around and took his gun, Clem had nothing to do with it and they wanted to kill the whole fucking group for that dumb shit.
And then he has the nerve to say "fuck you" to Kenny? And shooting Clem?! He caused the death of Luke (and for some people Bonnie, too), he's a bastard and I can only hope he's dead by now.
I didn't think so at the time, but after he shot Clem, I realized that Kenny was right about him, so yeah, he did.
He didn't deserve being beaten half to death, but I don't think much of Mike babying him either. Especially since they were prepared to take him and not Clem. Then the little shit shot her.
I would have prefered to just cut him loose somewhere.
Well it didn't seem like most of them disliked Carver, Bonnie herself respected Carver, maybe the past played a role in who Carver became? Like Jane said, he was probably a different man before.
I do hate Arvo, mainly for shooting Clementine, but why keep killing at all? The group killed off almost all of the Russians, Jane only scared Arvo as a precaution while Kenny bullied Arvo out of anger, I'm not saying he doesn't deserve it, but everybody makes mistakes, everybody has those days.
He says fuck you to Kenny because he is endlessly bullied by him, almost beaten to death by him, killing is never the right answer, by now it seems that the living are the ones who are killing the living, the dead seem to play a minor role, you can blame Arvo but you can't do so without blaming Kenny, Jane, Luke, everyone... for all their past mistakes, I do hate Arvo for shooting Clementine, that got me steamed, actually, Luke was shot, which is probably the reason he sank, Arvo indirectly caused his death, as for Bonnie, she also can indirectly cause Luke's death and her own, it doesn't seem as though they were thinking logically, unlike Luke who knew the consequences of the situation he was in.
It wasn't directly his fault for Luke, but that smirk he gave after you reach the unfinished house said it all to me.
For me, this was very much a case of the group should of just left him behind. He'd done enough damage already and in his condition, there was no way he would keep up with Clem's group.
You know, I've only just thought of that. It's a good theory on what Arvo was doing with the supplies.
Was Arvo stealing supplies from his group, got caught and blamed Clem's group? Makes sense.
I didn't stole his meds,I tried to talk to him and I protected him from Kenny.And after all that shit,he shoots Clem in the shoulder like the fucking shitbird he is.Kenny should've hit him harder.
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You pulled off a Hannah Montana dude xD
He deserved the beating, I don't care if he experiences pain, he deserves pain.
And trust me, killing is the only answer in a lot of situations, some people are just not fit to live in this world because all they do is hurt others who didn't deserve it.
He gave Clem a death glare as soon as they reached the house, after she'd fallen through the lake and was freezing to death.
That proved to me that he really wanted her dead.
That's what i think he was doing anywey , remember when Clem and Jane first meet him , he was hiding the medicine for his sister , why would you hide meds from your group unles they don't aprove of what you are doing with them .
Yup, for shooting his zombie sister.
Lee could've killed people as a solution to many of his problems, but he could choose not to kill them and still found another solution. Idk I just don't like how killing someone else whose trying to survive is a necessity for your own survival now, if I lived in a world with the ZA I would probably be popped for not killing :x
He deserve just because he said "Fuck You".
Guess it depends what choices you made. For example in mine I robbed him, killed his sister and friends, and let Kenny beat on him a few days. Little wonder he hated me so much.
In a playthrough where you gave him back his medical supplies? Suddenly he's a lot less sympathetic.
No, he didn't. Kenny was just plain cruel to the poor kid when the entire time he was telling the truth about the house and the supplies. Arvo didn't deserve anything that Kenny gave him.
And then he shoots Clem, at which point I stop giving a fuck. I'm cool with Kenny beating the everloving shit out of him after that (If only that ACTUALLY could have happened), but up until that point Arvo had really done nothing that warranted the verbal abuse and the beatings.
I just don't see another good solution with Arvo, he's proven himself to be untrustworthy, dumb and hasty, also a careless manipulator that went telling on Clementine to his Russian buff friends for something she wasn't even to blame for.
Arvo did lie when he met Clem. I understand that fact. Everyone can lie when they meet strangers in this world. However, he did lie again when he meet Clem again, and tried to rob with his group. Besides, I think Luke died because of him.
One of the important thing is he shot Clem. It is a really shame that I couldn't see him die.
This is why Kenny was crazy...
Y'know, I wish I could be kinder to the guy. But, yes, he deserved it. You don't fuck with somebody and expect to just be left alone because you lost the fight you chose to start.
Plus, if Arvo was helping the group by being Kenny's 'punching bag' and taking the rut of his anger for the time he was with us... I'm perfectly fine with that.
I wish Kenny had killed him.
I wish being kind to him actually helped with the shooting situation, I was so kind to him from beginning to end and still, he shoots a little girl.
Well, I was a complete dick to the guy. And I honestly didn't feel too bad about it either.
But, Arvo is a guy that if we'd have met under better circumstances, I may have been somewhat more cordial toward him.
i think he did idc what anyone says he was the one who caused the shootout there was no need to come back for the group and the second you shot his undead sister he gives clem that death stare basically saying i'm going to kill you and he did attempt it in fact i don't understand how people are actually feeling sorry for him usually if anyone hurts clem in anyway people flip out and forever hate that character weird huh?