Although I really respected Kenny for what he does in his endings, I don't like the message being portrayed by his character here. The most … moreemotionally satisfying and arguably "happiest" ending requires the player to stick with a man who himself thinks that he should probably be put down for becoming the monster that he is. It doesn't matter that he killed people out of bloodlust or tore the group apart with his obsession. Stick with him. That's the only way to reach safety.
"The gods love to reward a fool." seems an appropriate phrase here.
No, i'm talking about the "anti-Kenny cruzade" thingy.
Don't mean to be rude or anything, but you're EVERYWHERE saying bad things about Ken. And how he is a "bad guy" and blá blá blá...
In all seriousness, this genuinely is a joke right?
You guys do realise that only 50% of players stayed with Kenny? Which hardly makes us… more a 'vocal minority?
You understand that 48% of players shot Kenny?
Please tell me you're joking, that would make this thread even more hilarious. If not, it just makes it kinda sad.
Look, the point about why this is silly is because, even in the unlikely event the Kenny fans are a vocal minority, so what?
Why does that matter?
Even if only a few people don't like Kenny, why point it out? How does it change anything? This is a question to Rob, by the way. What is the point of the thread?
1) There is no such thing as a Nobel prize for Mathematics, there is the Fields Medal for recognition of Maths accomplishments.
2) You pretend all players who shot Kenny belong to your clique, did you really miss all these comments of players who said they regretted it as soon they found out the baby was alive and now hate Jane's guts for it...
Also where are these 70% from ?
Survivalism: Shot Kenny?
Shot Kenny - 48.2%
Looked away/Didn't pick up the gun - 52.8%
Friendship: In the end, who are you with?
With AJ and Kenny - 36.8% (players who loved Kenny to the end)
Alone with AJ - 22.7% (good deal of these players are people who were tricked into shooting Kenny and didn't forgive Jane for it)
With AJ at Wellington - 16.6% (good deal of them loved Kenny but felt coming in made for a more powerful or coherent ending)
See, this comment is just perfect sarcasm dudes
You're all missing the point of this ironic inversion, it's a crafty reversion of our sug… moregestion that kenny fans here are a vocal minority
Classic George we know you're not silly enough to ignore the fact that a third to half of all people playing the game side against Kenny, we sussed your game silly xx
"they said they wouldn't play if kenny returned" - never happened on this forum
"anti Kenny crusade"
"ruined their gaming experience"
"preying on every comment"
"He didn't win in my playthrough. He threw the first punch at Jane and tried to kill her. Because he was crazy." Your words. I don't know if you're joking or... whatever. Maybe i'm just seeing what is not there because my english is bad.
But them again, i don't mean to be rude, i just think you should let people be happy with their favorite characters in peace.
1) There is no such thing as a Nobel prize for Mathematics, there is the Fields Medal for recognition of Maths accomplishments.
2) You pr… moreetend all players who shot Kenny belong to your clique, did you really miss all these comments of players who said they regretted it as soon they found out the baby was alive and now hate Jane's guts for it...
Also where are these 70% from ?
Survivalism: Shot Kenny?
* Shot Kenny - 48.2%
* Looked away/Didn't pick up the gun - 52.8%
Friendship: In the end, who are you with?
* With AJ and Kenny - 36.8% (players who loved Kenny to the end)
* Alone with AJ - 22.7% (good deal of these players are people who were tricked into shooting Kenny and didn't forgive Jane for it)
* With AJ at Wellington - 16.6% (good deal of them loved Kenny but felt coming in made for a more powerful or coherent ending)
...What the hell are your 70% ?
From what I've seen on forums,I can say 3/5 players are Kenny fans.This means 60% of players.I can say Kenny has the most fans after Lee/Clem(Maybe more than Clementine).I remember the Kenny-hate threads taking 100+ downvotes.Even if Kenny haters are vocal minority,I dont see how this is important
Regardless of whether we are the minority or not, that does NOT justify people saying 'Lee hates you if you shoot Kenny' or whatever.
That's just trying to make people feel shit about themselves, and is unpleasant.
Your post focuses entirely on saying that Kenny 'haters' have ruined the forum. What about the people saying that our choice is invalid? It's as close to bullying as it can get on a public forum, telling people 'your opinion is invalid.
You're implying that Kenny fans are the only ones arguing, when people started threads like 'Fuck Jane' and 'Lee hates you for killing kenny'
If you want some paradisaical forum where everyone agrees with each other, you're not going to find it.
I will stop questioning the reasonings of Kenny fans and laughing at them if they stop bullying our group, regardless of whether it's a minority or not.
Trying to say we're a minority will just encourage more ganging up.
I completely agree with you Tolispro, although I'm not certain Kenny has more fans than Clem if it came down to the wire (i.e. who would you… more save?), but I think your assessment is spot on: 60% seems a very likely figure.
But 40% is hardly what one calls a 'vocal minority', it's a very sizable chunk of the forum! :P
I completely agree with you Tolispro, although I'm not certain Kenny has more fans than Clem if it came down to the wire (i.e. who would you save?), but I think your assessment is spot on: 60% seems a very likely figure.
But 40% is hardly what one calls a 'vocal minority', it's a very sizable chunk of the forum! :P
That's the same attitude that Bonnie had with Carver. "He's not insane." "He was a good man." "He's just been though a lot." "He didn't mean to kill that person." "He overreacted." "He's just looking out for his own people." "Just put your faith in him and follow him to the ends of the earth." Kenny was dangerous. No matter how pure his intentions are, he's still dangerous. My Clem didn't kill him, but she couldn't stay with someone after what he did.
It's just telltale testing our trust in a man that seens insane, but he really isn't. He's just trying to keep Clementine safe.
At my eye… mores, a lot of peoples didn't pass this "test" and killed Kenny, however, i did. But that's just the way i see it.
I thought what he was saying was factually incorrect.
He said 'kenny looked insanity in the eyes and won', which is firstly determinant and secondly only speculation still.
He was stating his opinion as fact, which I take issue with.
I think stating your opinion as fact IS disrespectful of other forumite's opinions, and hence the comment you linked has actually supported my point well. Thank you
And thanks for the picture comment, I like yours too
https://www.telltalegames.com/community/discussion/80753/kenny-he-looked-insanity-in-the-eyes/p5
"He didn't win in my playthrough. He thr… moreew the first punch at Jane and tried to kill her. Because he was crazy." Your words. I don't know if you're joking or... whatever. Maybe i'm just seeing what is not there because my english is bad.
But them again, i don't mean to be rude, i just think you should let people be happy with their favorite characters in peace.
And nice picture.
Jeez those two specific members jumping from one thread to another and spamming with their comments. Don't you get tired? We got your point and we totally respect it, now can you just stop the spam?
Your reactions to this thread have been extremely childish (posting a bunch of animated gifs, "LMAO ROFL this is hilarious"), and I've known you to be far more eloquent. So of course I suspect there's some butthurt in progress.
So far you have acted no better here than the less mature part of Kenny fanbase and their overposting of Godlike beard pics.
I know he's dangerous, i said that to him in my playthrough, and that's why i choose to say at wellington
What i'm saying is, Kenny can be kinda bad, but he's not a monster. A lot of people there threat him like he's some kind of psycopath, and i don't think he is, i just think he kinda overreact too much.
That's the same attitude that Bonnie had with Carver. "He's not insane." "He was a good man." "He's just been though a lot." "He didn't mean… more to kill that person." "He overreacted." "He's just looking out for his own people." "Just put your faith in him and follow him to the ends of the earth." Kenny was dangerous. No matter how pure his intentions are, he's still dangerous. My Clem didn't kill him, but she couldn't stay with someone after what he did.
Ehm.Im not sure what just happened.I posted my comment but now I cant see it :O And yeah IF,IF kenny fans are 60% of the players,40% isnt vocal minority.[Incase my other comment appears with this one(like it did before ._.),my apologies]Oh,my original comment was saying that Im suprised you were polite
I completely agree with you Tolispro, although I'm not certain Kenny has more fans than Clem if it came down to the wire (i.e. who would you… more save?), but I think your assessment is spot on: 60% seems a very likely figure.
But 40% is hardly what one calls a 'vocal minority', it's a very sizable chunk of the forum! :P
Oh, I did though, it says 48% of players
maybe my figures are outdated for some reason?
Where did you get the figures from? Could you possibly provide a link?
Thanks bro
You know what? Considering that 30% didn't shoot Kenny, 16.5% are with Aj at Wellington and 13.5% with Kenny and AJ, that means almost no one abandonned Kenny after sparing him. Yet, from the 70% that shot Kenny,only 47% end up with her at Howe's Hardware. So almost everyone, who got the alone ending (22%), left Jane. I'd say that makes about 52%, who like/don't hate Kenny.
Jeez those two specific members jumping from one thread to another and spamming with their comments. Don't you get tired? We got your point and we totally respect it, now can you just stop the spam?
Comments
'you're butthurt'
What a nice way to talk to someone Virgy :')
take my like
But it also means that the majority aren't in fact as pro-kenny as these guys would like to think.
It's just telltale testing our trust in a man that seens insane, but he really isn't. He's just trying to keep Clementine safe.
At my eyes, a lot of peoples didn't pass this "test" and killed Kenny, however, i did. But that's just the way i see it.
Oh, I only do that to people who have disrepected the opinions of others, as I think they deserve it.
yeah til he killed larry
or until he almost got me killed by leaving me trapped under a door for not helping him kill larry
or when he didn't help me save clementine for not helping him kill larry
wait what
nearly 70%, so say 66 or something
66+46 = 112
what
Flog why don't you check the wiki , you'll be surprised. ;D
True. But it also means that the majority doesn't have to hate Kenny, as you would like to think.
Look, the point about why this is silly is because, even in the unlikely event the Kenny fans are a vocal minority, so what?
Why does that matter?
Even if only a few people don't like Kenny, why point it out? How does it change anything? This is a question to Rob, by the way. What is the point of the thread?
Uh, I just wanted to add a laugh to the chain. I don't really share your opinions.
1) There is no such thing as a Nobel prize for Mathematics, there is the Fields Medal for recognition of Maths accomplishments.
2) You pretend all players who shot Kenny belong to your clique, did you really miss all these comments of players who said they regretted it as soon they found out the baby was alive and now hate Jane's guts for it...
Also where are these 70% from ?
Survivalism: Shot Kenny?
Friendship: In the end, who are you with?
...What the hell are your 70% ?
I aint saying Kenny isn't crazy, and i completely understand why people left him. Well i'm crazy too, so us peanuts stick together.
A laughing chain. Interesting.
I love Kenny but I still shot him...
oh my gash someone responded with just a reaction image, feels like im in the 4chanz!!1. oh boy that sure showed him
I made multiple points on why season 2 was Kenny favored and why I liked Jane.
Not gonna repeat myself!
https://www.telltalegames.com/community/discussion/80753/kenny-he-looked-insanity-in-the-eyes/p5
"He didn't win in my playthrough. He threw the first punch at Jane and tried to kill her. Because he was crazy." Your words. I don't know if you're joking or... whatever. Maybe i'm just seeing what is not there because my english is bad.
But them again, i don't mean to be rude, i just think you should let people be happy with their favorite characters in peace.
And nice picture.
Double comment...
Why don't go check the wiki and you find some changes.
What's up with this double-post thing ? ._.
From what I've seen on forums,I can say 3/5 players are Kenny fans.This means 60% of players.I can say Kenny has the most fans after Lee/Clem(Maybe more than Clementine).I remember the Kenny-hate threads taking 100+ downvotes.Even if Kenny haters are vocal minority,I dont see how this is important
Gets prepared for hate by @flog61
Regardless of whether we are the minority or not, that does NOT justify people saying 'Lee hates you if you shoot Kenny' or whatever.
That's just trying to make people feel shit about themselves, and is unpleasant.
Your post focuses entirely on saying that Kenny 'haters' have ruined the forum. What about the people saying that our choice is invalid? It's as close to bullying as it can get on a public forum, telling people 'your opinion is invalid.
You're implying that Kenny fans are the only ones arguing, when people started threads like 'Fuck Jane' and 'Lee hates you for killing kenny'
If you want some paradisaical forum where everyone agrees with each other, you're not going to find it.
I will stop questioning the reasonings of Kenny fans and laughing at them if they stop bullying our group, regardless of whether it's a minority or not.
Trying to say we're a minority will just encourage more ganging up.
What wiki are you talking about ? I'm talking about this one http://walkingdead.wikia.com/wiki/Video_Game_Statistics
I beat it it , Yesterday, and i think it was 25% or so went with Kenny. Steam statistics.
Why you were polite ?!?! WHATS WRONG WITH YOU TODAY?
I completely agree with you Tolispro, although I'm not certain Kenny has more fans than Clem if it came down to the wire (i.e. who would you save?), but I think your assessment is spot on: 60% seems a very likely figure.
But 40% is hardly what one calls a 'vocal minority', it's a very sizable chunk of the forum! :P
Wow, that many people left Jane or is that sarcasm? O.o
well they aren't in the majority either from what i have seen it is sort of a equal split
That's the same attitude that Bonnie had with Carver. "He's not insane." "He was a good man." "He's just been though a lot." "He didn't mean to kill that person." "He overreacted." "He's just looking out for his own people." "Just put your faith in him and follow him to the ends of the earth." Kenny was dangerous. No matter how pure his intentions are, he's still dangerous. My Clem didn't kill him, but she couldn't stay with someone after what he did.
I thought what he was saying was factually incorrect.
He said 'kenny looked insanity in the eyes and won', which is firstly determinant and secondly only speculation still.
He was stating his opinion as fact, which I take issue with.
I think stating your opinion as fact IS disrespectful of other forumite's opinions, and hence the comment you linked has actually supported my point well. Thank you
And thanks for the picture comment, I like yours too
Jeez those two specific members jumping from one thread to another and spamming with their comments. Don't you get tired? We got your point and we totally respect it, now can you just stop the spam?
Oh, I did though, it says 48% of players
maybe my figures are outdated for some reason?
Where did you get the figures from? Could you possibly provide a link?
Thanks bro
Your reactions to this thread have been extremely childish (posting a bunch of animated gifs, "LMAO ROFL this is hilarious"), and I've known you to be far more eloquent. So of course I suspect there's some butthurt in progress.
So far you have acted no better here than the less mature part of Kenny fanbase and their overposting of Godlike beard pics.
With AJ and Jane - 10.4%
[Laughs]
I know he's dangerous, i said that to him in my playthrough, and that's why i choose to say at wellington
What i'm saying is, Kenny can be kinda bad, but he's not a monster. A lot of people there threat him like he's some kind of psycopath, and i don't think he is, i just think he kinda overreact too much.
Ehm.Im not sure what just happened.I posted my comment but now I cant see it :O And yeah IF,IF kenny fans are 60% of the players,40% isnt vocal minority.[Incase my other comment appears with this one(like it did before ._.),my apologies]Oh,my original comment was saying that Im suprised you were polite
http://walkingdead.wikia.com/wiki/Video_Game_Statistics#.22No_Going_Back.22
http://walkingdead.wikia.com/wiki/No_Going_Back#In-Game_Decisions
Maybe. But they're surely not a minority.
You know what? Considering that 30% didn't shoot Kenny, 16.5% are with Aj at Wellington and 13.5% with Kenny and AJ, that means almost no one abandonned Kenny after sparing him. Yet, from the 70% that shot Kenny,only 47% end up with her at Howe's Hardware. So almost everyone, who got the alone ending (22%), left Jane. I'd say that makes about 52%, who like/don't hate Kenny.
We're just having fun.