What you seem to call 'kenny haters' or 'jane haters' are what I would call people who want to discuss the choice.
You shouldn't be prevented from commenting on a kenny thread if you think refusing to shoot him is wrong.
When I go on those threads, I question specific facts people raise. As in, if they say 'I sided with Kenny because x', I think me saying 'hmm, is x definitely true?' is perfectly acceptable and not 'hating'. We have to be prepared to discuss out opinions. What the point in a forum if we don't?
sigh as to why I don't like Kenny.....that's not true. I do like him, fundamentally. I just feel that the way he's treated certain characters is essentially bullying, and I just couldn't bear to have a bully around. Jane bullies Kenny too, but in retaliation, and once. Kenny...the way he treated Arvo made me feel genuinely sick.
It's why I wish Kenny had just stayed in season 1. I liked him, and I didn't know he was capable of the, in my opinion, horrors he has committed in season 2.
Well... thinking that way, he did say that he don't trust himself to take care of clem, so...
But that's not the point. What i was trying… more to say is that you Kenny haters should leave the Kenny threads alone. Same way that the Jane haters shoud leave her threads alone too.
May i ask why you don't like Kenny ?
40% isn't a vocal minority in my opinion.(Its close to 50-50). I consider 20-25% a vocal minority.(aka 1/5, 1/4...But 1/3 isn't a vocal minority either !)
Wait, did they really do that, or was it just recently updated? Because when I first played it (Tuesday) I thought that it was 50-50
If t… morehey did do that, it was a pretty stupid thing to do though. They're giving Kenny fans (the good ones) a bad name
Someone made a thread about it, they did do it.
Yeah it was 50% at first for me, but that always changes in a couple of days when more pe… moreople have got round to playing it.
It really does give the large number of awesome kenny fans a bad name, but then again, so does posting that Lee hates you if you kill Kenny.
We need to stop thinking too much in terms of "Kenny fanboys" / "Kenny haters", something I confess I do too often myself because it's easier and convenient.
We are passionated about different characters and it's great, an evidence that Telltale did an excellent job when all is said and done. I think sometimes we allow ourselves to ghettoize into cliques and take negative comments about characters we like as personal insults, as if the author of the comment was denying us the right to make the choices we made.
There are such comments though, and that's what caused OP's thread and my initial post, but you're right, we only thought of those targeted at players loving Kenny, not thinking of your own frustration when such similar comments are directed at players who love Jane or Lilly or criticize Kenny.
I hope we can learn to distinguish the passionated arguments where respect for other's opinions is still present, from those who simply deny the validity of some choices.
I'm glad you reached your hand to me, I don't know if I would have done it first, but I gladly take it. I'm confident both of us will from now on try to calm down "our" respective troops each on our side. I will be more likely to appease a Kenny fan who gets carried away if I know you and others will do the same with over the top "Kenny haters".
Kenny lovers, Jane lovers, we are above all united as Telltale's The Walking Dead lovers.
(Are we Romeo and Juliet from the Kenny/Jane feud now ? :DD )
I completely agree, and apologise for my overreaction. Take my like.
But I would like to say this: other threads HAVE been targeting ANYO… moreNE who dislikes Kenny or anyone who shot him and have been rather rude to them. Not necessarily you guys, you guys are pretty cool. But it IS an extant problem.
We were working at cross purposes, as we had different definitions of what a 'Kenny Hater' is. As a result, I agree with the above. But I don't regret raising the issues, as they are present.
I suggest you look at my post above, beginning with 'Regardless of whether', because it sums up why this thread seemed to me to be made in order to contribute to the looking down upon that Jane fans have undeservedly received.
I deserve it, but they sure as hell don't, so leave them the hell alone.
Good day.
Not really. I'm refering to the people that call ou "stupid" or "crazy" just because you admires an fictional character. And i just think that is a childish atitude.
Just like Virgil_Caine said, i'm talking about the people that will punish you if you say something positive about Kenny.
To be honest, you looked like one of them, but i guess i was wrong. You're pretty respectful
Well, yeah. I can agree with that. Kenny can be a real dick, hotheaded, and stupid guy sometimes... but i still can't dislike, not anymore.
I hated Kenny in S1 E4, now i love him. ):
Anyway... i'm sorry i tried to argue with you. I'm from Brazil, and around here, people don't really respect eachother... I guess i got kinda used to it.
What you seem to call 'kenny haters' or 'jane haters' are what I would call people who want to discuss the choice.
You shouldn't be preve… morented from commenting on a kenny thread if you think refusing to shoot him is wrong.
When I go on those threads, I question specific facts people raise. As in, if they say 'I sided with Kenny because x', I think me saying 'hmm, is x definitely true?' is perfectly acceptable and not 'hating'. We have to be prepared to discuss out opinions. What the point in a forum if we don't?
sigh as to why I don't like Kenny.....that's not true. I do like him, fundamentally. I just feel that the way he's treated certain characters is essentially bullying, and I just couldn't bear to have a bully around. Jane bullies Kenny too, but in retaliation, and once. Kenny...the way he treated Arvo made me feel genuinely sick.
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People shouldn't question their choices or whether they should like a character or not.Majority,minority,who the fuck cares?!
It's your choice.Choose what you want to choose,don't do it because the majority chose a different one(for example,I stayed at Wellington with the baby,and I saw that more people left with Kenny.But I was happy with my choice,so I didn't rewind)
That said,be happy with your choices,'cuz there are no good or bad ones.
Regardless of whether we are the minority or not, that does NOT justify people saying 'Lee hates you if you shoot Kenny' or whatever.
Tha… moret's just trying to make people feel shit about themselves, and is unpleasant.
Your post focuses entirely on saying that Kenny 'haters' have ruined the forum. What about the people saying that our choice is invalid? It's as close to bullying as it can get on a public forum, telling people 'your opinion is invalid.
You're implying that Kenny fans are the only ones arguing, when people started threads like 'Fuck Jane' and 'Lee hates you for killing kenny'
If you want some paradisaical forum where everyone agrees with each other, you're not going to find it.
I will stop questioning the reasonings of Kenny fans and laughing at them if they stop bullying our group, regardless of whether it's a minority or not.
Trying to say we're a minority will just encourage more ganging up.
Going by the amount of people that shot Kenny is inaccurate, I had no personal grievances against him, even kinda liked him yet I still shot him as he was dangerous, he even admits this, not only that, I have a few Kenny fan friends and most of them shot him aswell.
Regardless, this Forum has become a lot less fun due to the insane amount of arguing between the two sides.
You know what? Considering that 30% didn't shoot Kenny, 16.5% are with Aj at Wellington and 13.5% with Kenny and AJ, that means almost no on… moree abandonned Kenny after sparing him. Yet, from the 70% that shot Kenny,only 47% end up with her at Howe's Hardware. So almost everyone, who got the alone ending (22%), left Jane. I'd say that makes about 52%, who like/don't hate Kenny.
I read it and I agree with you.
We need to stop thinking too much in terms of "Kenny fanboys" / "Kenny haters", something I confess I do … moretoo often myself because it's easier and convenient.
We are passionated about different characters and it's great, an evidence that Telltale did an excellent job when all is said and done. I think sometimes we allow ourselves to ghettoize into cliques and take negative comments about characters we like as personal insults, as if the author of the comment was denying us the right to make the choices we made.
There are such comments though, and that's what caused OP's thread and my initial post, but you're right, we only thought of those targeted at players loving Kenny, not thinking of your own frustration when such similar comments are directed at players who love Jane or Lilly or criticize Kenny.
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It is so disappointing that there are actually a multitude of players who are up in arms about Kenny's actions in the finale. The haters are worse than any of the craziest Kenny fans..
My Clem didn't kill him, but she couldn't stay with someone after what he did.
Yeah, that's another reason why I think the Wellington/Leave Kenny ending is the ideal one (in my opinion, of course). Clem is safe in Wellington, but she's also safe from Kenny, while Kenny has achieved some degree of peace, even if he's walking over that horizon to his death. For TWD, it's about as "happy" an ending as you can get.
That's the same attitude that Bonnie had with Carver. "He's not insane." "He was a good man." "He's just been though a lot." "He didn't mean… more to kill that person." "He overreacted." "He's just looking out for his own people." "Just put your faith in him and follow him to the ends of the earth." Kenny was dangerous. No matter how pure his intentions are, he's still dangerous. My Clem didn't kill him, but she couldn't stay with someone after what he did.
How? I take issue with the idea that people are supposed to kiss Kenny's butt for some reason. The reason I don't like Kenny is because of the things he has done through two seasons and I don't feel like I shouldn't be able to say that.
It is so disappointing that there are actually a multitude of players who are up in arms about Kenny's actions in the finale. The haters are worse than any of the craziest Kenny fans..
Lee rage kills some guy pre-apocolypse because he was nailing his wife and we all love Lee. Kenny attempts to rage kill Jane post-apocolypse after he suspects her of killing a baby and people hate Kenny.
Yeah...unfortunately, in my original run I left him before we got to Wellington. So I was only greeted with a half-assed pseudo-ending, instead of the happy one. Fixed in my rewind.
My Clem didn't kill him, but she couldn't stay with someone after what he did.
Yeah, that's another reason why I think the Wellingto… moren/Leave Kenny ending is the ideal one (in my opinion, of course). Clem is safe in Wellington, but she's also safe from Kenny, while Kenny has achieved some degree of peace, even if he's walking over that horizon to his death. For TWD, it's about as "happy" an ending as you can get.
Feeling targeted, Flog61 ? I never mentioned you in particular, but ... Seems like I hit a nerve.
"they said they wouldn't play if kenny returned" - never happened on this forum
Oh, yes it did, I used to see these a lot before S2e2.
It makes perfect sense when you see Kenny trying with all his might to stab her to death after we've seen him kill several people already and go into violent rages. We didn't see any of that with Lee.
Lee rage kills some guy pre-apocolypse because he was nailing his wife and we all love Lee. Kenny attempts to rage kill Jane post-apocolypse after he suspects her of killing a baby and people hate Kenny.
This makes no sense to me at all.
Don't get me wrong, I can understand people taking issue with a couple of things that Kenny has done. But there are too many people out there that hate him no matter what he does, even if it doesn't make any logical sense.
How? I take issue with the idea that people are supposed to kiss Kenny's butt for some reason. The reason I don't like Kenny is because of the things he has done through two seasons and I don't feel like I shouldn't be able to say that.
Don't get me wrong, I can understand people taking issue with a couple of things that Kenny has done. But there are too many people out there that hate him no matter what he does, even if it doesn't make any logical sense.
It makes perfect sense when you see Kenny trying with all his might to stab her to death after we've seen him kill several people already and go into violent rages. We didn't see any of that with Lee.
I have a younger brother and sister who were babies while I was in my teens and I would lose my $hit like Kenny if I thought someone had harmed them in anyway even if it was an accident... add on a post-apocolyptic setting to that mix.... all roads would lead to a brain implosion for me.
It makes perfect sense when you see Kenny trying with all his might to stab her to death after we've seen him kill several people already and go into violent rages. We didn't see any of that with Lee.
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What you seem to call 'kenny haters' or 'jane haters' are what I would call people who want to discuss the choice.
You shouldn't be prevented from commenting on a kenny thread if you think refusing to shoot him is wrong.
When I go on those threads, I question specific facts people raise. As in, if they say 'I sided with Kenny because x', I think me saying 'hmm, is x definitely true?' is perfectly acceptable and not 'hating'. We have to be prepared to discuss out opinions. What the point in a forum if we don't?
sigh as to why I don't like Kenny.....that's not true. I do like him, fundamentally. I just feel that the way he's treated certain characters is essentially bullying, and I just couldn't bear to have a bully around. Jane bullies Kenny too, but in retaliation, and once. Kenny...the way he treated Arvo made me feel genuinely sick.
It's why I wish Kenny had just stayed in season 1. I liked him, and I didn't know he was capable of the, in my opinion, horrors he has committed in season 2.
And there's my answer
I kind of feel sorry for the true Kenny fans who are being represented by asshats like that...
No they aren't.
Kenny messed up here and he agrees that you need to put him down.
I agree
Hah yeah poor guys , they should speak their minds.I know as a true Kenny fan you do not creating hating threads like that
Hell Ima Kenny fan and I chose Jane , and I see you're one too.
Wait, did they really do that, or was it just recently updated? Because when I first played it (Tuesday) I thought that it was 50-50
If they did do that, it was a pretty stupid thing to do though. They're giving Kenny fans (the good ones) a bad name
Someone made a thread about it, they did do it.
Yeah it was 50% at first for me, but that always changes in a couple of days when more people have got round to playing it.
It really does give the large number of awesome kenny fans a bad name, but then again, so does posting that Lee hates you if you kill Kenny.
I've never understood the point to going to that level of stupidity just because other people have different opinions...
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Oh, grow up. Personal insults won't get you anywhere.
There are raging fanboys for Kenny too and you know it, you're just trying to be rude.
I read it and I agree with you.
We need to stop thinking too much in terms of "Kenny fanboys" / "Kenny haters", something I confess I do too often myself because it's easier and convenient.
We are passionated about different characters and it's great, an evidence that Telltale did an excellent job when all is said and done. I think sometimes we allow ourselves to ghettoize into cliques and take negative comments about characters we like as personal insults, as if the author of the comment was denying us the right to make the choices we made.
There are such comments though, and that's what caused OP's thread and my initial post, but you're right, we only thought of those targeted at players loving Kenny, not thinking of your own frustration when such similar comments are directed at players who love Jane or Lilly or criticize Kenny.
I hope we can learn to distinguish the passionated arguments where respect for other's opinions is still present, from those who simply deny the validity of some choices.
I'm glad you reached your hand to me, I don't know if I would have done it first, but I gladly take it. I'm confident both of us will from now on try to calm down "our" respective troops each on our side. I will be more likely to appease a Kenny fan who gets carried away if I know you and others will do the same with over the top "Kenny haters".
Kenny lovers, Jane lovers, we are above all united as Telltale's The Walking Dead lovers.
(Are we Romeo and Juliet from the Kenny/Jane feud now ? :DD )
Not really. I'm refering to the people that call ou "stupid" or "crazy" just because you admires an fictional character. And i just think that is a childish atitude.
Just like Virgil_Caine said, i'm talking about the people that will punish you if you say something positive about Kenny.
To be honest, you looked like one of them, but i guess i was wrong. You're pretty respectful
Well, yeah. I can agree with that. Kenny can be a real dick, hotheaded, and stupid guy sometimes... but i still can't dislike, not anymore.
I hated Kenny in S1 E4, now i love him. ):
Anyway... i'm sorry i tried to argue with you. I'm from Brazil, and around here, people don't really respect eachother... I guess i got kinda used to it.
Yeah, this community could use less raging fanboyism from both sides.
People shouldn't question their choices or whether they should like a character or not.Majority,minority,who the fuck cares?!
It's your choice.Choose what you want to choose,don't do it because the majority chose a different one(for example,I stayed at Wellington with the baby,and I saw that more people left with Kenny.But I was happy with my choice,so I didn't rewind)
That said,be happy with your choices,'cuz there are no good or bad ones.
Also, if you let the timer run out, Jane invites the family in!
I'm just ecstatic that Kenny didn't die in my play through, I'm on cloud nine guys!
Lee actually came back from the dead and killed Kenny for me. I didn't have to do it.
Going by the amount of people that shot Kenny is inaccurate, I had no personal grievances against him, even kinda liked him yet I still shot him as he was dangerous, he even admits this, not only that, I have a few Kenny fan friends and most of them shot him aswell.
Regardless, this Forum has become a lot less fun due to the insane amount of arguing between the two sides.
You can shoot Kenny after he kills Jane too
Woah,, seriously?!
Good on ya Jane!
but, those stats don't add up to 100...
Typo XD , MY bad
Those 70% do you get from where...?
The way I see it, 37% are with Kenny, 23% are alone and 17% are at Wellington.
Only 23% are with Jane in the end.
We're Romeo and Julio baby
I never said I was on a side Flog...
And why did my comment get flagged as trolling? -_-
I was only saying that this is getting ridiculous...
Why not just close all of these threads?
Isn't there a few amount of kenny lovers? I swear the "Did you let Kenny kill Jane / Go with kenny" was like 20%-32%.
It is so disappointing that there are actually a multitude of players who are up in arms about Kenny's actions in the finale. The haters are worse than any of the craziest Kenny fans..
Those 70% on the wiki are fake.
Only 23% are with Jane lol.
And 37% with Kenny, 17% at Wellington, 23% are alone.
At least that's what I got when I played my game (I got about 16 or 17% for my Wellington ending). Everyone can edit the Wiki.
Yeah, that's another reason why I think the Wellington/Leave Kenny ending is the ideal one (in my opinion, of course). Clem is safe in Wellington, but she's also safe from Kenny, while Kenny has achieved some degree of peace, even if he's walking over that horizon to his death. For TWD, it's about as "happy" an ending as you can get.
So if you don't love Kenny your loud and abrasive? That's not a biased point of view at all.
im with kenny till the end
How? I take issue with the idea that people are supposed to kiss Kenny's butt for some reason. The reason I don't like Kenny is because of the things he has done through two seasons and I don't feel like I shouldn't be able to say that.
Lee rage kills some guy pre-apocolypse because he was nailing his wife and we all love Lee. Kenny attempts to rage kill Jane post-apocolypse after he suspects her of killing a baby and people hate Kenny.
This makes no sense to me at all.
Yeah...unfortunately, in my original run I left him before we got to Wellington. So I was only greeted with a half-assed pseudo-ending, instead of the happy one. Fixed in my rewind.
You sure as heck didn't hear that from me and I bet anyone who did say that didn't actually do it.
It makes perfect sense when you see Kenny trying with all his might to stab her to death after we've seen him kill several people already and go into violent rages. We didn't see any of that with Lee.
Don't get me wrong, I can understand people taking issue with a couple of things that Kenny has done. But there are too many people out there that hate him no matter what he does, even if it doesn't make any logical sense.
Well, I feel like my reasons aren't illogical. I don't know about everyone else.
Trying to stab her when he was fighting for his life because Jane had escalated the fight into a battle to the death..
We never see Kenny kill anyone else, not in the context that you're talking about.
I am biased here.
I have a younger brother and sister who were babies while I was in my teens and I would lose my $hit like Kenny if I thought someone had harmed them in anyway even if it was an accident... add on a post-apocolyptic setting to that mix.... all roads would lead to a brain implosion for me.