im just happy i found out tht kenny is like lee but with a worse temper kenny did everything he could for clem and AJ im sorry but what jane did was wrong
well if you think about it if you go with kenny , that family will eventually get there and get more food that if you was here so it's a good ending for taht family too if you don't kill kenny
Yeah, he cares so much. He just stood there beating up Arvo instead of helping Clem who could possibly freeze to death.(determinate) In fact the whole group was doing absolutely nothing for her. The only one trying to save her was Jane. I think that shows who really cares.
He beat down Arvo because he sees him as a threat to Clem and AJ. That's the reason he argues so viciously with everyone because he cares to… moreo much. And from the outside it makes him look like an asshole which he actually isn't if you watched his ending.
well if you think about it if you go with kenny , that family will eventually get there and get more food that if you was here so it's a good ending for taht family too if you don't kill kenny
Look, you guys can get as salty as you want and try to make as many broken excuses as you want.
But you fucked up.
If you want a good ending, you can rewind and [Look away].
Don't know why you're getting upset about it.
People are feeling bad because they killed Kenny and got angry at Jane and felt for the trick? Haa. I got worse than that....
I looked away in the hope Kenny wouldn't kill her(never crossed my mind that Jane was trying to prove anything), but then Kenny just killed her, I felt like Kenny just turned in Carver and shoot him, the worse part is, he agreed with me "Just do it" and then I hear the baby crying, I look up at the TV with a "Noooo, don't tell me I just committed murder...!". Then, I cried, cried a lot. In the end there was no "right" or "wrong".
Jane never told the baby was dead, but acted as it was and wanted the fight. But Kenny, came back stating that the baby was dead, but he didn't even saw the baby so he wanted the fight too, and Jane just went along with it saying it was an "accident"...
I can't understand how you people can just choose a side and be okay with it.
That's pathetic,. the babies dead as far as you know so what would looking away and letting Kenny commit murder do for the baby? Furthermore you don't know what happened, the baby could have been bitten. This is Duck all over again.
What Telltale did was fair. It was up to you to decide who was right and who was wrong. If you thought that whatever Jane did to AJ was ok… moreay, then you shoot Kenny. If you believe that the baby is the most important member of the group and there is absolutely no excuse for showing up without it, then you look away.
I always did what I believed was right. Even when we found the baby, I didn't regret letting Jane die. What she did was stupid. Honestly, what else did she expect? ANd you know what? Even if I had shot Kenny, once she revealed that the baby was okay (does she even do that, or does she let Clem continue to think it's dead?), I would feel betrayed and guilty, I would shoot her too, if the option came up (it came up for Kenny, which was... very weird). Don't fucking play mind games, bitch.
I guarantee if Jane was holding the knife over Kenny then alot more people would of saved Kenny. But that's the trick of the game. Jane look… mores like a victim and Kenny the crazy bad guy in the fight. When that's not the case at all. Kenny is the victim and Jane caused this.
AND YOU FELL FOR IT XD.
He was insane, he even admits you're right to kill him to save Jane as he knows that he was going to cross a line that should NEVER be crossed.
Lee wouldn't have killed over an accident. This is a fact.
Lee didn't kill Ben the moment he found out that Ben got so many people killed with his decisions. He can get angry, if you want, but he doesn't flip out and try to kill the kid since he knows it was an accident.
Kenny wasn't insane he's just overprotective. His reaction was completely justified, anyone in his position would react the same. I think even Lee would.
Now YOU'RE the one stating opinion as fact.
How's that for 'respecting others' views' as you so decry on another thread?!
their choice is 'sick'? That isn't respect.
well if you think about it if you go with kenny , that family will eventually get there and get more food that if you was here so it's a good ending for taht family too if you don't kill kenny
I imagine there was. People are rationalizing the stupidest things. Like Jane.
And I don't say that lightly. I tried my best to stop t… morehe fight. Ever since I woke up in that damn car, I yelled at them to stop fighting, told both Jane and Kenny individually to lay off, and during the fight, I even kicked Kenny in the knee. Yet when it came down to it, I looked away, because it was obvious that someone had to die. Who deserved it more?
Jane didn't deserve to die. But what she did was stupid. I never thought that something Kenny did was stupid.
Right, and what's to say Wellington isn't another Crawford or run by another Carver? Did you see those walls? They're meant not to keep the dead out but the living.
There's no shame in rewinding. I'll admit for a second I contemplated shooting Kenny to incapacitate him, but I was under the impression tha… moret Jane let AJ die, or even killed him, and then she started gouging out Kenny's already wounded eye, so it wasn't a very difficult choice to let Jane get killed. Even though TellTale tried to make Kenny look like the bad guy, the only bad guy I saw was Jane. I'm biased as hell, but Kenny, Clem, and AJ becoming a little family of survivors is the happiest ending to me.
I shot Kenny the first time, cried like a bitch, then Jane was like "lol dat was good prank."
You bet your ass I rewinded. I usually don't.… more I usually just stick with whatever happens, but that time, I couldn't. I felt bad in my gut after I did it. I generally try to go about this game as "Which off these choices would I most likely choose." Which, admittedly made me realize I'm sort of a dick. I was all for smashing Larry's head in. I felt bad afterwards, but hey, it happened.
I just couldn't do the rest of the episode with that, though. I felt like I did something I wouldn't have actually done in the first place, and Jane pointing out it was to prove a point just made me say "Fuck it," and rewind.
People are feeling bad because they killed Kenny and got angry at Jane and felt for the trick? Haa. I got worse than that....
I looked aw… moreay in the hope Kenny wouldn't kill her(never crossed my mind that Jane was trying to prove anything), but then Kenny just killed her, I felt like Kenny just turned in Carver and shoot him, the worse part is, he agreed with me "Just do it" and then I hear the baby crying, I look up at the TV with a "Noooo, don't tell me I just committed murder...!". Then, I cried, cried a lot. In the end there was no "right" or "wrong".
Jane never told the baby was dead, but acted as it was and wanted the fight. But Kenny, came back stating that the baby was dead, but he didn't even saw the baby so he wanted the fight too, and Jane just went along with it saying it was an "accident"...
I can't understand how you people can just choose a side and be okay with it.
They only make that choice because they 'do not understand'?
In that situation? Yes, I strongly feel that way. I don't see how you can justify taking advantage of pure manipulation to kill a man. Even if you don't think Kenny should have reacted the way that he did, it took something terrible from Jane in order to unleash something terrible in himself. That just isn't fair in my opinion. It was taking advantages of his character weaknesses in order to remove him.
And then you can also add on the caveat that he wasn't even trying to kill Jane until she turned it into a fight to the death. He was fighting for his life by the end of it... and it was all because of a setup. Does that not sound... kind of tragic to you?
Seriously....you were the one telling someone off for not respecting someones choice?
I don't recall doing this.
I've just lost some of the respect I actually had for you..I thought you were better than this.
You're kind of looking into this harder than you should. I mean, it kind of goes without saying that when two parties aren't at an agreement they think the the other group lacks their own understanding of the situation. I mean, if we all thought we were all on the same page we wouldn't have endless discussion going on here. Whenever you're debating anything with anyone, you're implying that they do not understand something the way that you do, and you're trying to help them to understand your viewpoint. That is the entire point.. is it not? The only way around this is by not forming an opinion of your own.
They only make that choice because they 'do not understand'?
Seriously....you were the one telling someone off for not respecting someone… mores choice?
You're saying people who choose that are just misled?
Dude....hypocritical much?
I've just lost some of the respect I actually had for you..I thought you were better than this.
I just don't find that easy to pick a side. But yeah, if I had realized Jane plan before I would totally give Kenny a chance. But still, didn't want him to kill her. My ending was shit man...
Because she didn't deserve to die and Kenny knew it.
Saving her is preventing Kenny from becoming another Lily/Carver and he's proud of you for stopping him.
Because we don't know it's pure manipulation at that point.
You're metagaming.
And Kenny turned it into a fight to the death. Jane sheathed her knife and looked like she was finished, then Kenny rammed her into the window.
Remember, Jane' intention was not to kill Kenny. It was to make Clem realise what he would do if someone ACTUALLY lost the baby.
On the respect thing, perhaps it wasn't you. But regardless, you're not respecting people's choices. Please do.
I don't think Kenny fans lack understanding. I just think we're different people which explains our different reactions to the events
I'm not so unbelievably arrogant that I believable my view is the 'correct' one and that other people's choices are only because they 'don't understand.'.
You're like some religious zealot who's trying to 'enlighten' us. We've made up our minds, and we have actually thought about the decision. We can to a different conclusion than you. That's fine, that's life.
Don't try to make it sound like your view is the only correct one. That's a true dick move.
They only make that choice because they 'do not understand'?
In that situation? Yes, I strongly feel that way. I don't see how you c… morean justify taking advantage of pure manipulation to kill a man. Even if you don't think Kenny should have reacted the way that he did, it took something terrible from Jane in order to unleash something terrible in himself. That just isn't fair in my opinion. It was taking advantages of his character weaknesses in order to remove him.
And then you can also add on the caveat that he wasn't even trying to kill Jane until she turned it into a fight to the death. He was fighting for his life by the end of it... and it was all because of a setup. Does that not sound... kind of tragic to you?
Seriously....you were the one telling someone off for not respecting someones choice?
I don't recall doing this.
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I wouldn't like to have you around if I ever go through depression.
"Leave me alone, I just wanna die...
BANG !
-That's what he wanted. He told me."
In my playthrough where I saved Kenny and went with him to Wellington (and left with him), he sure did not want to die anymore and seemed to enjoy life. Sometimes you feel like shit and like you deserve to die, doesn't mean you can't get better and enjoy life again.
One's game is one's experience. People can enjoy their own game like they f*cking want.
I was blessed with achieving the best ending I could dream of from my first play, but if I had shot Kenny and found out Jane's bluff, you can bet I would have rewinded in a heartbeat. And neither you nor anybody wouldn't have had any say in the matter.
People can decide how they enjoy their own game and do what they f*cking want. I personally didn't need to rewind since after ending with Kenny from the first play, I already got my own personal best ending.
But if someone wants to rewind and call it his canon game, it's up to him and no one else.
Here we go again.... A person do a choice, then it watch other finals, and then he regret...
You did your choice!! U can't just blame you… morerself only cause u did a choice! The final you got is your final!
Final with Kenny is happy final? Who Cares! I left with Jane and i don't regret nothing, cause i like her so much and i did my choice!
This was the only time Kenny ever manifested himself as a direct threat to a group member
The only time (I remember in Season 2) he was a physical threat to a group member. He was a threat at other times though, like completely ignoring Clem as she was freezing to death because he was in another one of his rages beating up Arvo.
At any point during the fight she could have admitted to Kenny that the baby was still alive in the truck. She wanted to fight.
I read it as Jane has realised she needs to take AJ too, to protect him, in which case Kenny can't know because as Jane has already said, Kenny would never let the baby go.
Yeah, if you manipulate him into thinking you killed his kid.
But that isn't what happened, big difference between died and killed. Jane said there was an accident, she could have fallen over, or ran into a walker. An accident means the baby died, not necessarily that Jane killed him, but as Jane already knew (and was trying to prove to Clem) Kenny snaps instantly before she can explain (with whatever false story she'd have given).
Kenny was the threat because he was dangerous, and that's what Jane was trying to prove:
By doing something terrible to him to make … morehim do something terrible in return? This was the only time Kenny ever manifested himself as a direct threat to a group member, and it took heavy manipulation to pull it off. Jane wasn't just trying to prove something either, she was trying to kill him. Not at first, but as the fight went along she was the one who decided to turn the fight into a battle to the death.
At any point during the fight she could have admitted to Kenny that the baby was still alive in the truck. She wanted to fight.
what if Clem was the one returning without the baby, saying that he was dead? He would have probably reacted the same way.
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I wouldn't like to have you around if I ever go through depression.
"Leave me alone, I just wanna die...
BANG !
-That's what he wan… moreted. He told me."
In my playthrough where I saved Kenny and went with him to Wellington (and left with him), he sure did not want to die anymore and seemed to enjoy life. Sometimes you feel like shit and like you deserve to die, doesn't mean you can't get better and enjoy life again.
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im just happy i found out tht kenny is like lee but with a worse temper kenny did everything he could for clem and AJ im sorry but what jane did was wrong
Look behind you.
well if you think about it if you go with kenny , that family will eventually get there and get more food that if you was here so it's a good ending for taht family too if you don't kill kenny
Who's being a dick about it? They got a bad ending.
It's easy to get a good one, just stick with Kenny until Wellington.
Another Kenny fan in denial, I wish you knew everyone sticks to their own choice.
Yeah, he cares so much. He just stood there beating up Arvo instead of helping Clem who could possibly freeze to death.(determinate) In fact the whole group was doing absolutely nothing for her. The only one trying to save her was Jane. I think that shows who really cares.
That's fucking stupid Ben.
And I'm proud that they put Kenny down, even he knows that it was the best decision.
It really was, even Kenny disagrees with you.
It's not a trap, he was about to commit murder over, as far as you know, was an accident.
He had to be put down and if you have any respect for Kenny you would shoot him because Kenny would NEVER want to be like Lily/Carver.
Very good point
Shoot Kenny and save Jane.
Kenny: So proud of you....
People are feeling bad because they killed Kenny and got angry at Jane and felt for the trick? Haa. I got worse than that....
I looked away in the hope Kenny wouldn't kill her(never crossed my mind that Jane was trying to prove anything), but then Kenny just killed her, I felt like Kenny just turned in Carver and shoot him, the worse part is, he agreed with me "Just do it" and then I hear the baby crying, I look up at the TV with a "Noooo, don't tell me I just committed murder...!". Then, I cried, cried a lot. In the end there was no "right" or "wrong".
Jane never told the baby was dead, but acted as it was and wanted the fight. But Kenny, came back stating that the baby was dead, but he didn't even saw the baby so he wanted the fight too, and Jane just went along with it saying it was an "accident"...
I can't understand how you people can just choose a side and be okay with it.
That's pathetic,. the babies dead as far as you know so what would looking away and letting Kenny commit murder do for the baby? Furthermore you don't know what happened, the baby could have been bitten. This is Duck all over again.
She gave him MULTIPLE CHANCES to back off. He's the one the escalated it to a death match and proved her right.
He was insane, he even admits you're right to kill him to save Jane as he knows that he was going to cross a line that should NEVER be crossed.
Lee wouldn't have killed over an accident. This is a fact.
Lee didn't kill Ben the moment he found out that Ben got so many people killed with his decisions. He can get angry, if you want, but he doesn't flip out and try to kill the kid since he knows it was an accident.
Now YOU'RE the one stating opinion as fact.
How's that for 'respecting others' views' as you so decry on another thread?!
their choice is 'sick'? That isn't respect.
Hey, it's nothing personal. Those people simply do not understand.
Nah, they came DOWN from north so that means they're unlikely to go back.
So Kenny really is Carver in your eyes and Clementine is Bonnie.
Good to know you believe that.
What's even more stupid is trying to anyone rationalize helping Kenny commit murder.
Never been to Crawford or met Carver, I see?
Right, and what's to say Wellington isn't another Crawford or run by another Carver? Did you see those walls? They're meant not to keep the dead out but the living.
They only make that choice because they 'do not understand'?
Seriously....you were the one telling someone off for not respecting someones choice?
You're saying people who choose that are just misled?
Dude....hypocritical much?
I've just lost some of the respect I actually had for you..I thought you were better than this.
Rewinders have no sense of self-respect with their own choices and are metagaming.
Did you not see that Kenny started the fight and that Jane gave him multiple chances to back down and he refused?
She didn't say lol that was a good prank. She didn't expect it to end up like that and was freaking out over the entire thing.
Because she didn't deserve to die and Kenny knew it.
Saving her is preventing Kenny from becoming another Lily/Carver and he's proud of you for stopping him.
In that situation? Yes, I strongly feel that way. I don't see how you can justify taking advantage of pure manipulation to kill a man. Even if you don't think Kenny should have reacted the way that he did, it took something terrible from Jane in order to unleash something terrible in himself. That just isn't fair in my opinion. It was taking advantages of his character weaknesses in order to remove him.
And then you can also add on the caveat that he wasn't even trying to kill Jane until she turned it into a fight to the death. He was fighting for his life by the end of it... and it was all because of a setup. Does that not sound... kind of tragic to you?
I don't recall doing this.
You're kind of looking into this harder than you should. I mean, it kind of goes without saying that when two parties aren't at an agreement they think the the other group lacks their own understanding of the situation. I mean, if we all thought we were all on the same page we wouldn't have endless discussion going on here. Whenever you're debating anything with anyone, you're implying that they do not understand something the way that you do, and you're trying to help them to understand your viewpoint. That is the entire point.. is it not? The only way around this is by not forming an opinion of your own.
Whoa calm down guy, people can change their minds if they want.
A lot of people were disappointed with the lackluster Jane or Alone endings and felt shortchanged or that they made a mistake.
That's perfectly understandable. Those endings are bad.
If they want the good one, they can stick with Kenny.
I just don't find that easy to pick a side. But yeah, if I had realized Jane plan before I would totally give Kenny a chance. But still, didn't want him to kill her. My ending was shit man...
yeah he wants die,i put him out of his pain to see Duck and Sarita(not Katjaa because she committed suicide and goes to hell)
Because we don't know it's pure manipulation at that point.
You're metagaming.
And Kenny turned it into a fight to the death. Jane sheathed her knife and looked like she was finished, then Kenny rammed her into the window.
Remember, Jane' intention was not to kill Kenny. It was to make Clem realise what he would do if someone ACTUALLY lost the baby.
On the respect thing, perhaps it wasn't you. But regardless, you're not respecting people's choices. Please do.
I don't think Kenny fans lack understanding. I just think we're different people which explains our different reactions to the events
I'm not so unbelievably arrogant that I believable my view is the 'correct' one and that other people's choices are only because they 'don't understand.'.
You're like some religious zealot who's trying to 'enlighten' us. We've made up our minds, and we have actually thought about the decision. We can to a different conclusion than you. That's fine, that's life.
Don't try to make it sound like your view is the only correct one. That's a true dick move.
wow there lol, that was out of hand.
I wouldn't like to have you around if I ever go through depression.
"Leave me alone, I just wanna die...
BANG !
-That's what he wanted. He told me."
In my playthrough where I saved Kenny and went with him to Wellington (and left with him), he sure did not want to die anymore and seemed to enjoy life. Sometimes you feel like shit and like you deserve to die, doesn't mean you can't get better and enjoy life again.
Howe's with Jane + Deny family entry is best ending.
crawford wasn't great...unless your being sarcastic..
Why ? Who made those rules ?
One's game is one's experience. People can enjoy their own game like they f*cking want.
I was blessed with achieving the best ending I could dream of from my first play, but if I had shot Kenny and found out Jane's bluff, you can bet I would have rewinded in a heartbeat. And neither you nor anybody wouldn't have had any say in the matter.
Says who ? You ? Who are you, God ?
People can decide how they enjoy their own game and do what they f*cking want. I personally didn't need to rewind since after ending with Kenny from the first play, I already got my own personal best ending.
But if someone wants to rewind and call it his canon game, it's up to him and no one else.
The only time (I remember in Season 2) he was a physical threat to a group member. He was a threat at other times though, like completely ignoring Clem as she was freezing to death because he was in another one of his rages beating up Arvo.
I read it as Jane has realised she needs to take AJ too, to protect him, in which case Kenny can't know because as Jane has already said, Kenny would never let the baby go.
But that isn't what happened, big difference between died and killed. Jane said there was an accident, she could have fallen over, or ran into a walker. An accident means the baby died, not necessarily that Jane killed him, but as Jane already knew (and was trying to prove to Clem) Kenny snaps instantly before she can explain (with whatever false story she'd have given).
You deserve a cookie! I agree with you.