You gotta have two endings! Remember! Here's the one with Jane...
Clementine and Jane formulate a plan to rid of Kenny. They all agree to… more meet up at the rest area. When Kenny comes in, he is greeted by Clem and Jane as they both point guns at him
Clementine: See ya, crusty ol' man
Kenny is shot multiple times across the body. His lifeless body lays on the ground, and Jane places the baby right on Kenny's stomach. Clementine and Jane then gleefully walk off into the sunset!
How's that for an ending? Yours was funny too
She got them out of Carvers lair, you all know how bad that place is and if they stayed any longer Carver could've killed another member, raped, tortured? So she basically saved some lives here
She killed Troy while he had the group at gunpoint. Nobody else had a gun... Also she was smart enough to make Troy a dinnerbell ( Distraction ) to make their escape easier.
She saved Rebecca and Clementine from the herd.
She saved Sarah and Luke from the trailer park, nobody else would've gone out looking for them. She did wanna save Sarah but she knew Sarah wasn't gonna make it. Also when Clementine tries to get Sarah out she tells Clementine to come out because if she stays any longer she could've died with Sarah (She saves Clem 3 times now)
She found the observation deck which saved a couple lives
She protected Clem from Arvo, what if Jane wasn't there and Arvo saw Clem? Who knows what would've happend then.
She teaches Clem new survival skills
She gives Clem a nail file which saves her life in ep 5
She cares for the group to steal meds from some random guy who has a sick sister
She saves Kenny and the group from Vitali
She saves Clementine when she is about to freeze to death. She risks her life to save Clem, she ran on the ice lake which could've broke any minute. She made the fire for Clem and got her warm with HER NAIL FILE/MATCHES.
She saves Clem from Mike and Bonnie and Arvo ( Sure Kenny helped but if only Kenny was there they wouldve overpowered Kenny and stole the truck )
She takes care of the baby 2 times
She tries to do the best for Clem by revealing who Kenny really is and what he would if the baby died
If you let her live she will take you to Howes and you will find food and baby formula, plus the building is safe from any walkers.
She only met Clem for a couple of weeks and she already did more than Kenny would ever do. She did more to the group more than Kenny'd ever done. Infact Kenny always broke the group apart while Jane helped the group. Jane doesn't own anything to the group and she has the right to leave any time she wants but she came back for the group and that makes her family.
Yeah, everybody is a maniac then right? I mean, if you think someone abandoned a baby you loved, you wouldn't jump on him/her? Be honest to … moreyourself...
Btw, I don't know if you agree or not, but Kenny looked bad ass when he was coming full of rage at jane. I was like "But Jane what did you-... Oh oh, you're screwed now woman" LOL He looked like a beast unleashed. Anybody would look like that.
This thread is useless and your points are flawed. We all knew how broken and unstable kenny was. Jane started the fight by doing this test,… more this has been discussed so many times just look at other threads and past replies.
I just wish telltale gave us the option for kenny to hold jane down while he gave me the knife and we could've beheaded her. Even if she did admit the baby was safe, it'd be too late by then.
Seriously telltale, you guys did it with TWAU. why couldn't we behead jane? lol
Just thought I'd drop this here
Jane:
* She got them out of Carvers lair, you all know how bad that place is and if they stayed any … morelonger Carver could've killed another member, raped, tortured? So she basically saved some lives here
* She killed Troy while he had the group at gunpoint. Nobody else had a gun... Also she was smart enough to make Troy a dinnerbell ( Distraction ) to make their escape easier.
* She saved Rebecca and Clementine from the herd.
* She saved Sarah and Luke from the trailer park, nobody else would've gone out looking for them. She did wanna save Sarah but she knew Sarah wasn't gonna make it. Also when Clementine tries to get Sarah out she tells Clementine to come out because if she stays any longer she could've died with Sarah (She saves Clem 3 times now)
* She found the observation deck which saved a couple lives
* She protected Clem from Arvo, what if Jane wasn't there and Arvo saw Clem? Who… [view original content]
I know I keep harping on this but I just cant believe people went off with the baby alone. Clementine had nothing on her but an axe. How did she feed a baby, keep him safe, keep him clean and quiet for nine days alone??? I went with Jane, AJ and the family.
And we wanna talk about the choice?
Friendship: In the end, who are you with?
* With AJ, Jane and the family - 36.8%
* Alone with AJ - 22.7%
* With AJ at Wellington - 16.6%
* With AJ and Kenny - 13.5%
* With AJ and Jane - 10.4%
And we wanna talk about the choice?
Friendship: In the end, who are you with?
* With AJ, Jane and the family - 36.8%
* Alone with AJ - 22.7%
* With AJ at Wellington - 16.6%
* With AJ and Kenny - 13.5%
* With AJ and Jane - 10.4%
Not. That's what you think (Which isn't canon by the way)
The true ending would go as telltale originally created at first right now - bu… moret would end up with kenny having jane pinned to the floor while she cries for clems help
Clem... eugh.. HE..LP
Then, Clementine would cry "Kenny, Please STOP". She gets up and marches to kenny over jane. Clementine then tells Kenny "Please kenny, give me the knife, pin her down for me, make sure this bitch doesn't squirm."
Jane is then perplexed and cries for help loud, that's when kenny punches her in the face for screaming. Then finally we have the option to Behead her. Of course there'd be alot of blood and jane's crying.
After that's done, kenny and clem wait for Jane's head to reanimate, once it has ; kenny gets AJ and he pukes all over it again. Then we all spit at her head.
Then, Kenny, clem and AJ walk towards wellington where Edith hears what we've done to Jane and she'll l… [view original content]
Jane's idea to go back to Howes was the best idea there was. It would of taken 1 day with the truck to get to Howes and resupply. After that they could of continued on to Wellington. The fact that Kenny didn't even want to hear about other ideas caused the group to split up. If it wasn't for the group Kenny would of killed Arvo. So we would of had no supplies and no truck.
Well spending 3 days walking and then saying lets go back that same way when 4 people died on the trip over is a shit plan. If heading North… more wasn't a good plan why did they all go. That's kinda like walking through glass and then deciding you don't want to get cut, they knew they were marching further North with just Arvo's promise of supplies. They all knew and agreed they needed to keep moving forward. No one made better plans until Luke died and by then the group was already half gone. Too many queen bees and not enough workers so chaos and death ensue:)
If Arvo was shot by Kenny in the beginning would things still have gone so very wrong?
I agree that the Howes plan wasn't horrible but we had to walk 3 days through the woods and across a lake to get to Arvo's cabin. No way was driving going to be quicker as we never took roads really so getting there by Car wouldn't have been as easy as you're saying. I mean it took Jane and Clem 9 days to make it back there. If Bonnie would have grabbed useful supplies instead of rum maybe we wouldn't have needed to go back.
Jane's idea to go back to Howes was the best idea there was. It would of taken 1 day with the truck to get to Howes and resupply. After that… more they could of continued on to Wellington. The fact that Kenny didn't even want to hear about other ideas caused the group to split up. If it wasn't for the group Kenny would of killed Arvo. So we would of had no supplies and no truck.
I agree that the Howes plan wasn't horrible but we had to walk 3 days through the woods and across a lake to get to Arvo's cabin. No way was… more driving going to be quicker as we never took roads really so getting there by Car wouldn't have been as easy as you're saying. I mean it took Jane and Clem 9 days to make it back there. If Bonnie would have grabbed useful supplies instead of rum maybe we wouldn't have needed to go back.
I think the timeskip is just to show they will find a way to survive in any ending. It's important since we know they had a days worth of food left maybe, yet 9 days later everyone is still ok.
I think that's what bothered me most. Jane made a plan to prove her point but she put everyone including Kenny, herself, Clem and even AJ at risk. If you listen to what Jane says and stay out of it she will die. By helping her she tricked me into killing the only human that my Clem ever shot (besides Lee). Shit plan overall Jane.
So she slashes at Kenny's chest because she never wanted to kill him?
Her "not wanting to kill him" doesn't make it not her fault if it r… moreesults in Kenny's death. She started the string of events that could lead to his death, and the worst part about it is that Clem is the one that shoots him. Clementine is the one that shoots Kenny. Do you have any idea how hard that would be on a girl at that age?
Jane had the option to calm him down by telling him that AJ was alive during the fight while still proving to Clem just how dangerous he was. She didn't take that route so in my eyes she wanted the fight.
I'm with Jane. I originally thought her behaviour was confusing, especially in the context of the dream sequence and I thought she was antagonistic and unfeeling because of her attitude towards the baby (referring to him as "it" etc.) but to be honest I think that's just to balance her more effectively against Kenny.
Now that Jane is allowing herself to care about Clem her softer side is coming out and once she takes more responsibility for the baby her humanity should reveal itself, as it's beginning to do at the end of that video.
Exactly! People forget that Jane helped much more than Kenny did, and they say that Kenny cares about everyone. He only wanted to take care of AJ, he didn't give a crap about anyone else except Clem. He was the one who was pushing the group apart and blames everyone else for things. And he always has to have his way and if you disagree with him he hates you. For example the truck, he wanted to leave that night when it was very dark and would have been dangerous. Everyone else was thinking clearly and wanted to leave in the morning.
And while Jane and everyone else was trying to get a fire started when Clem and Bonnie (determinant) were freezing, Kenny just wanted to beat on a teenager. I like Kenny, he is a great character but he has many flaws
Just thought I'd drop this here
Jane:
* She got them out of Carvers lair, you all know how bad that place is and if they stayed any … morelonger Carver could've killed another member, raped, tortured? So she basically saved some lives here
* She killed Troy while he had the group at gunpoint. Nobody else had a gun... Also she was smart enough to make Troy a dinnerbell ( Distraction ) to make their escape easier.
* She saved Rebecca and Clementine from the herd.
* She saved Sarah and Luke from the trailer park, nobody else would've gone out looking for them. She did wanna save Sarah but she knew Sarah wasn't gonna make it. Also when Clementine tries to get Sarah out she tells Clementine to come out because if she stays any longer she could've died with Sarah (She saves Clem 3 times now)
* She found the observation deck which saved a couple lives
* She protected Clem from Arvo, what if Jane wasn't there and Arvo saw Clem? Who… [view original content]
Yeah, everybody is a maniac then right? I mean, if you think someone abandoned a baby you loved, you wouldn't jump on him/her? Be honest to … moreyourself...
Btw, I don't know if you agree or not, but Kenny looked bad ass when he was coming full of rage at jane. I was like "But Jane what did you-... Oh oh, you're screwed now woman" LOL He looked like a beast unleashed. Anybody would look like that.
First off we knew Jane for 4 days max and she only helped Clem twice in the story for sure (Getting through the herd, and knife to russian spine...which rocked by the by:)) any other time is determinant. I didn't fall through the ice so no need to be pulled out and no need for a fire and though Kenny was violent I too blamed Arvo for Luke and Bonnie's death and wondered why he was even still alive at that point.
No one in the group could agree where to go or what to do after Luke died. Jane wanted to go to howes and Mike to Texas and Kenny North. Hell even Jane agreed Arvo was too dangerous while Mike wanted him with the group for no reason really.
Biggest problem with the group is that everyone in it betrays or lets Clem down in some basic way.
-Arvo shoots you no matter if your mean or stick up for him. whether you stole stuff or not and even if you ask to go with them and give up your gun.
-Mike after saying they shouldn't leave in the night decides to...leave in the night with all the supplies they had and the truck Kenny fixed up, leaving Clem Jane and Aj to die for all he cares...again this happens no matter how you act or how much you think you have bonded with him.
-Kenny loses control of his anger and will literally kill a woman unless stopped by Clem through a bullet.
-Jane lies and possibly makes Clem kill a group member (Kenny) all to prove that Kenny was dangerous then claims she did it for Clem. Also if you say you counted on her and she left before she specifically says she won't do that and that you can trust her...except when she needs to lie to prove a point.
All in all every adult except for Lee and Molly suck as being people you can count on and even then they suck because in the end they left us too. RIP Lee #PromiseBreaker lol
Exactly! People forget that Jane helped much more than Kenny did, and they say that Kenny cares about everyone. He only wanted to take care … moreof AJ, he didn't give a crap about anyone else except Clem. He was the one who was pushing the group apart and blames everyone else for things. And he always has to have his way and if you disagree with him he hates you. For example the truck, he wanted to leave that night when it was very dark and would have been dangerous. Everyone else was thinking clearly and wanted to leave in the morning.
And while Jane and everyone else was trying to get a fire started when Clem and Bonnie (determinant) were freezing, Kenny just wanted to beat on a teenager. I like Kenny, he is a great character but he has many flaws
Ah, so the baby wasn't in any danger? Are kidding me. That baby could've cried super loud. That would atract walkers. They would've easily gotten into that car. So tell me again, that Aj wasn't in any danger. And if she didn't know Kenny would go so far she could've just said "Aj is alive". But yeah, no, she prefers getting killed.
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Poor poor AJ:/
Tell all of those people in prison who were provoked into killing someone that they're free to go, then.
Just thought I'd drop this here
Jane:
She got them out of Carvers lair, you all know how bad that place is and if they stayed any longer Carver could've killed another member, raped, tortured? So she basically saved some lives here
She killed Troy while he had the group at gunpoint. Nobody else had a gun... Also she was smart enough to make Troy a dinnerbell ( Distraction ) to make their escape easier.
She saved Rebecca and Clementine from the herd.
She saved Sarah and Luke from the trailer park, nobody else would've gone out looking for them. She did wanna save Sarah but she knew Sarah wasn't gonna make it. Also when Clementine tries to get Sarah out she tells Clementine to come out because if she stays any longer she could've died with Sarah (She saves Clem 3 times now)
She found the observation deck which saved a couple lives
She protected Clem from Arvo, what if Jane wasn't there and Arvo saw Clem? Who knows what would've happend then.
She teaches Clem new survival skills
She gives Clem a nail file which saves her life in ep 5
She cares for the group to steal meds from some random guy who has a sick sister
She saves Kenny and the group from Vitali
She saves Clementine when she is about to freeze to death. She risks her life to save Clem, she ran on the ice lake which could've broke any minute. She made the fire for Clem and got her warm with HER NAIL FILE/MATCHES.
She saves Clem from Mike and Bonnie and Arvo ( Sure Kenny helped but if only Kenny was there they wouldve overpowered Kenny and stole the truck )
She takes care of the baby 2 times
She tries to do the best for Clem by revealing who Kenny really is and what he would if the baby died
If you let her live she will take you to Howes and you will find food and baby formula, plus the building is safe from any walkers.
She only met Clem for a couple of weeks and she already did more than Kenny would ever do. She did more to the group more than Kenny'd ever done. Infact Kenny always broke the group apart while Jane helped the group. Jane doesn't own anything to the group and she has the right to leave any time she wants but she came back for the group and that makes her family.
THE END
Yeah, he looked totally badass beating a woman.
That's an ugly idea, having Clem behead her friend?
Yeah I am. Lotta work though, I can tell ya that. But I've doing this kind thing for years so I don't think I'll ever stop.
And we wanna talk about the choice?
Friendship: In the end, who are you with?
With AJ, Jane and the family - 36.8%
Alone with AJ - 22.7%
With AJ at Wellington - 16.6%
With AJ and Kenny - 13.5%
With AJ and Jane - 10.4%
I know I keep harping on this but I just cant believe people went off with the baby alone. Clementine had nothing on her but an axe. How did she feed a baby, keep him safe, keep him clean and quiet for nine days alone??? I went with Jane, AJ and the family.
Haha Jane wins
Take that Kenny fans!
LMAO
Jane's idea to go back to Howes was the best idea there was. It would of taken 1 day with the truck to get to Howes and resupply. After that they could of continued on to Wellington. The fact that Kenny didn't even want to hear about other ideas caused the group to split up. If it wasn't for the group Kenny would of killed Arvo. So we would of had no supplies and no truck.
I agree that the Howes plan wasn't horrible but we had to walk 3 days through the woods and across a lake to get to Arvo's cabin. No way was driving going to be quicker as we never took roads really so getting there by Car wouldn't have been as easy as you're saying. I mean it took Jane and Clem 9 days to make it back there. If Bonnie would have grabbed useful supplies instead of rum maybe we wouldn't have needed to go back.
And I'm supposed to care why? People made their choices, and I respect that. A shame most others can't.
lol fair point. I wonder if the 9 days timeskip is significant now...
I think the timeskip is just to show they will find a way to survive in any ending. It's important since we know they had a days worth of food left maybe, yet 9 days later everyone is still ok.
Neither was right both were wrong and somebody died. I don't see any heroes in this story besides Clem. (Lee was a hero as well:)
I think that's what bothered me most. Jane made a plan to prove her point but she put everyone including Kenny, herself, Clem and even AJ at risk. If you listen to what Jane says and stay out of it she will die. By helping her she tricked me into killing the only human that my Clem ever shot (besides Lee). Shit plan overall Jane.
Jane is such a badass!
"Not happening, Move!"
TEAM JANE
Jane had the option to calm him down by telling him that AJ was alive during the fight while still proving to Clem just how dangerous he was. She didn't take that route so in my eyes she wanted the fight.
I'm with Jane. I originally thought her behaviour was confusing, especially in the context of the dream sequence and I thought she was antagonistic and unfeeling because of her attitude towards the baby (referring to him as "it" etc.) but to be honest I think that's just to balance her more effectively against Kenny.
Now that Jane is allowing herself to care about Clem her softer side is coming out and once she takes more responsibility for the baby her humanity should reveal itself, as it's beginning to do at the end of that video.
I'm with Jane.
it's the only true ending. all others are fake and invalid.
TeamKane
TeamJenny
Exactly! People forget that Jane helped much more than Kenny did, and they say that Kenny cares about everyone. He only wanted to take care of AJ, he didn't give a crap about anyone else except Clem. He was the one who was pushing the group apart and blames everyone else for things. And he always has to have his way and if you disagree with him he hates you. For example the truck, he wanted to leave that night when it was very dark and would have been dangerous. Everyone else was thinking clearly and wanted to leave in the morning.
And while Jane and everyone else was trying to get a fire started when Clem and Bonnie (determinant) were freezing, Kenny just wanted to beat on a teenager. I like Kenny, he is a great character but he has many flaws
Somebody give this man a medal.
"Kenny and Nick are gods"
How much weed did you smoke when you made the account?
He looked like Carver when he was beating Kenny with the radio.
Insane.
Not badass.
First off we knew Jane for 4 days max and she only helped Clem twice in the story for sure (Getting through the herd, and knife to russian spine...which rocked by the by:)) any other time is determinant. I didn't fall through the ice so no need to be pulled out and no need for a fire and though Kenny was violent I too blamed Arvo for Luke and Bonnie's death and wondered why he was even still alive at that point.
No one in the group could agree where to go or what to do after Luke died. Jane wanted to go to howes and Mike to Texas and Kenny North. Hell even Jane agreed Arvo was too dangerous while Mike wanted him with the group for no reason really.
Biggest problem with the group is that everyone in it betrays or lets Clem down in some basic way.
-Arvo shoots you no matter if your mean or stick up for him. whether you stole stuff or not and even if you ask to go with them and give up your gun.
-Mike after saying they shouldn't leave in the night decides to...leave in the night with all the supplies they had and the truck Kenny fixed up, leaving Clem Jane and Aj to die for all he cares...again this happens no matter how you act or how much you think you have bonded with him.
-Kenny loses control of his anger and will literally kill a woman unless stopped by Clem through a bullet.
-Jane lies and possibly makes Clem kill a group member (Kenny) all to prove that Kenny was dangerous then claims she did it for Clem. Also if you say you counted on her and she left before she specifically says she won't do that and that you can trust her...except when she needs to lie to prove a point.
All in all every adult except for Lee and Molly suck as being people you can count on and even then they suck because in the end they left us too. RIP Lee #PromiseBreaker lol
Ah, so the baby wasn't in any danger? Are kidding me. That baby could've cried super loud. That would atract walkers. They would've easily gotten into that car. So tell me again, that Aj wasn't in any danger. And if she didn't know Kenny would go so far she could've just said "Aj is alive". But yeah, no, she prefers getting killed.