Kenny haters?

Why do people hate Kenny so much? These 'Kenny haters' as people call them. He maybe hot headed at times but he always does what's best for the group. He's only trying to protect Clem and AJ and always looking out for others. Jane on the other hand only looks out for herself. She was a loner and should of stayed a loner in my book. People say he's gone to far and can't come back but I think different. Wouldn't u be angry if you'd lost your whole family and then someone else u cared for? Chose to stick with Kenny as I believe he will protect Clem and AJ with his life if needs be. Team Kenny!
Just wanted peoples thoughts. Why hate him so much?

Comments

  • Do we really need to talk about this... God what am I going to do on here until season 3 :(

  • I hear ya. The subject of Kenny and Jane has been done to death. Time to give it a rest, guys.

    Legendary12 posted: »

    Do we really need to talk about this... God what am I going to do on here until season 3

  • It's like a constant eye fucking lol

  • Personally I am over the whole Jane vs Kenny thing.. People are forgetting the rest of the episode before that... I am still in Luke grieving mode :(

  • Sorry guys, only just finished it and was wondering and new to the community. :-(

  • edited September 2014

    Its all good. You didn't know that. Its just been discussed non stop since the finale finished lol

    By the way, welcome to the forum! :)

    Tyza_ty posted: »

    Sorry guys, only just finished it and was wondering and new to the community. :-(

  • I feel really welcome! :-/ lol

  • Don't worry about it, No big deal next time just try and have a read of the different threads before posting one.

    Tyza_ty posted: »

    I feel really welcome! :-/ lol

  • Welcome :)

    Tyza_ty posted: »

    I feel really welcome! :-/ lol

  • Trust me Jane is better than Kenny, all Kenny fans are like " Omgerdddddd but we know Kenny for 2 years he is obviously the best!!! ". Jane has been with the group for 2 weeks and done more good to the group and Clementine then Kenny will ever do/ ever did.

  • Jane:

    • She got them out of Carvers lair, you all know how bad that place is and if they stayed any longer Carver could've killed another member, raped, tortured? So she basically saved some lives here

    • She killed Troy while he had the group at gunpoint. Nobody else had a gun... Also she was smart enough to make Troy a dinnerbell ( Distraction ) to make their escape easier.

    • She saved Rebecca and Clementine from the herd.

    • She saved Sarah and Luke from the trailer park, nobody else would've gone out looking for them. She did wanna save Sarah but she knew Sarah wasn't gonna make it. Also when Clementine tries to get Sarah out she tells Clementine to come out because if she stays any longer she could've died with Sarah (She saves Clem 3 times now)

    • She found the observation deck which saved a couple lives

    • She protected Clem from Arvo, what if Jane wasn't there and Arvo saw Clem? Who knows what would've happend then.

    • She teaches Clem new survival skills

    • She gives Clem a nail file which saves her life in ep 5

    • She cares for the group to steal meds from some random guy who has a sick sister

    • She saves Kenny and the group from Vitali

    • She saves Clementine when she is about to freeze to death. She risks her life to save Clem, she ran on the ice lake which could've broke any minute. She made the fire for Clem and got her warm with HER NAIL FILE/MATCHES.

    • She saves Clem from Mike and Bonnie and Arvo ( Sure Kenny helped but if only Kenny was there they wouldve overpowered Kenny and stole the truck )

    • She takes care of the baby 2 times

    • She tries to do the best for Clem by revealing who Kenny really is and what he would if the baby died

    • If you let her live she will take you to Howes and you will find food and baby formula, plus the building is safe from any walkers.

    • She only met Clem for a couple of weeks and she already did more than Kenny would ever do. She did more to the group more than Kenny'd ever done. Infact Kenny always broke the group apart while Jane helped the group. Jane doesn't own anything to the group and she has the right to leave any time she wants but she came back for the group and that makes her family.

    Here you go, feel free to discuss anything. This post proves Jane is not selfish. You do realize Christa and Clementine were loners too, right? It's a survival tactic that limits the risks of dying by 1000 times.

  • Are you fucking serious some people don't get it who gives a fuck dude shakes head

    ErenCoral posted: »

    Jane: * She got them out of Carvers lair, you all know how bad that place is and if they stayed any longer Carver could've killed anoth

  • ... What's wrong with you? The OP wanted to know our opinions since he just played the game. I didn't make a thread saying " HURR DURR HURR JANE IS THE BEST " I just replied to a curious player who wants to know our opinions. Also nobody told you to read my post.

    Are you fucking serious some people don't get it who gives a fuck dude shakes head

  • Because the Kenny in my game is a douche. He didn't even help save Clem in the first season because his ego got in the way. In season 2 he kept yelling at Clem and everyone else. Never thinks about the group. And he was very obsessive when it came to the baby in a creepy way.
    So yeah, I don't like him.

  • I been over it for days. But my inbox is just loaded with people unable to let it go.

    Legendary12 posted: »

    Personally I am over the whole Jane vs Kenny thing.. People are forgetting the rest of the episode before that... I am still in Luke grieving mode

  • still shaking head

    ErenCoral posted: »

    ... What's wrong with you? The OP wanted to know our opinions since he just played the game. I didn't make a thread saying " HURR DURR HURR

  • ... Okey

    still shaking head

  • Bro it ain't a stab at you just alot of us a getting a bit sick of these threads no matter what's said from both sides it's like going around in circles truce is inevitable

    ErenCoral posted: »

    ... Okey

  • ErenCoralErenCoral Banned
    edited September 2014

    Yeah its kinda gotten old for some people but some people just played the game and they have the right to make threads like this. Im kinda also sick of this a little bit but I don't mind.

    Bro it ain't a stab at you just alot of us a getting a bit sick of these threads no matter what's said from both sides it's like going around in circles truce is inevitable

  • Sorry my bad guys! Thanks for the input tho erencoral.

    ErenCoral posted: »

    Yeah its kinda gotten old for some people but some people just played the game and they have the right to make threads like this. Im kinda also sick of this a little bit but I don't mind.

  • edited September 2014

    I liked Kenny, but we know he could be quite an ass. Also, when some Kenny fans get really assenine, people start disliking him more. Most of the Kenny/Someone fights in the forum where started by a bunch of threads saying "Kenny rox, Someone's an jackass!" Why the fuck can't I like both Kenny and Luke, Jane or even Lilly before she shot Carley? However, I don't let the forums affect how I feel about a character, and neither should anyone else. Kenny's a cool guy, and he cared about Clem. He's also a broken man, who makes rash decisions. I guess, in the end, you can either love him for the first (like me) or hate him for the latter.

  • No offense but hasn't this been discussed to death....

    Its like arguing who and why someone likes cheese or not, most of us have completely different playthroughs and different personal perspectives on the characters.

    My daughter had missed the last 2 episodes so I said I would do a new save from ep4 so she could catch up and experience the end, it was very interesting to her opinions, while im more kenny she was pro jane, each side had valid points but its how the individual perceives any given situation...

    Slightly off topic but in the second playthrough of ep5 as I said above, I decided not to go to luke on the river (I helped him in my original PT) and I was totally shocked by bonnies reaction to events, in my original run I didnt blame mike and bonnie for trying to leave, but on my second run I now hate bonnie with a passion, how can she be such a bitch over that when luke was demanding we stop away and that silly bitch goes to him (fully grown women weight wise) and also how she beggs clem for forgiveness over the ski lodge event and I did forgive her only to be a mega bitch oved luke? That was the biggest shock for me of ep5, I was fecking livid lol...

    But this just goes to show how one decision can change how you feel about a character.

    • She got them out of Carver´s lair just because Telltale didn´t give us a dialogue choice to tell the group how we got out the Marshal´s House while the group was arguing about the risk of the plan.
    • You praise Jane for doing that for Troy while Kenny being brutal with Carver just mean´s he is insane.
    • You are right.
    • Don’t say she saved them so easily. If she had leaved the group, Clem could have saved them alone without needing Jane there. Also, she went with Clem to save just because they were important with Clem. That´s selfish. That she told Clem to come out only matters if you fail to get Sarah out her situation.
    • You are right there, too, but found it is a stretch. Is rather big and pretty close-the group could have found it themselves even if Jane wasn´t there.
    • Clem was only there because Jane had been late and the group send Clem to look for her.
    • Ok, that one is true.
    • The nail file thing is determinant.
    • She cares about the group enough to steal for Arvo because Clem does, nothing more.
    • You are right in that one.
    • Not all the ice was as fragile as the part Luke had the bad luck to step into; Jane didn´t risk shit by getting Clem out the water. She did risk herself by running, but not that much. Arvo ran for a good while and when the ice broke it was only a tiny hole. She did get Clem warm.
    • The second time she takes care of the baby is determinant, and if you didn´t mean the scene in which the baby pukes but the one when runs off with the baby near the rest stop and leaving Clem alone, then she did it just to leave him to possibly be bitten or freeze to death. That is not doing a good job.
    • She cruelly manipulates the feelings of a broken man, that is either a friend or a close person to Clem, to provoke him into a fight to death and get rid of him. That´s not the best for Clem, that is the best for her.
    • Howes is a really big place, defended by either two people or five depending on your last choice, one of which is just a kid nowhere near the abilities of Clem and there are enough clues to say that the family is shady at best. Also, bandits, the low number how supplies and the herd problems. Wellington is practically flawless compared to Howe’s.
    • She did nothing for the group, even if some of her actions ended up benefiting them. As for Clem, Kenny did far more. He claimed to have stolen the radio, risking being killed right in front of his wife, ended up losing an eye for Clem and the first think he says after waking up is that it was not her fault and she should not blame herself for it. Also, he stands up for her every time any character critics Clem and part of his motivation to fight Jane and kill her was because he was protecting her. If you let him kill Jane he explains his reason quite well, while if you save Jane she just puts some excuses and that she didn´t mean for things to end up like this when she was plainly aiming for it all the time. Also, he begs Edith to take Clem and AJ, basically condemning himself to death, just for them.
    ErenCoral posted: »

    Jane: * She got them out of Carvers lair, you all know how bad that place is and if they stayed any longer Carver could've killed anoth

  • ErenCoralErenCoral Banned
    edited September 2014
    • Hm this could be true but still, she was the one who suggested it first.

    • I praise her because she was smart to use his death in a way to help the group. How did Kenny beating Carver help the group? Oh right, it didnt. Infact it wasted their precious time that could've been used to escape immediately which would've prevented Carlos and Nick's death. Plus she was the only one who had a gun so she was the only who was capable of killing him. Also her manipulation trick worked on him which prevented him from shooting the group.

    • Okay I was right here

    • Last time I checked Luke's ribs were broken and Jane was the one who boosted the members to the roof of the trailer. How is that selfish in any way? She went out with Clem, talked with Clem and taught her new tricks, saved Luke and Sarah ( Determanent ). That's the opposite of selfish darling.

    • Sure the group could've found up but Jane picked the lock with her nail file. Nobody had to tools to break the lock nor unlock it.

    • You can also go with Jane first and still meet Arvo.

    • Okay im right here too

    • You can choose to refuse the nail file but in ep 5 when Clem is about to freeze to death, Jane saves her and uses the nail file to make a fire. Now if you refused the nail file Jane finds matches in her pocket. So Jane saves Clem with her tools.

    • I dont understand what you're trying to say here?

    • I am right in this one

    • The ice was fragile though. Jane DID risk her life, she stood on the edge of the broken ice to pull Clem out. The extra weight could've made the ice break. Your argument here is invalid.

    • She takes care of the baby 3 times ( In the house she says she's gonna look after it while Clem and kenny fix the truck, in the car, and after they exit the car. ) She did NOT leave the baby to be bitten, she put the baby in a safe car with all the windows closed and it was near to them. Infact it was better to put the baby in the warm since it was warmer for him.

    • She did that because Clem refused to see what Kenny was like inside. She revealed Kennys true colors. What if Clem loses the baby accidently? Kenny would kill her immediatly. Jane did not want to kill Kenny and she didn't start the fight. She provoked him but Kenny started the fight by choking her. When Kenny tried to punch her in the beginning she took out her knife then put it back in indicating that she didn't want a fight. She did this for Clem.

    • But they said Howe's wasn't a temporary soloution, if you forgot you are with Jane and she is a hardcore survivalist. She knows how to get supplies. Sure Wellington might seem flawless but who knows what lies beneath the walls. There might be cannibals inside, there might be bad people inside, they might be like crawford for all we can know. Plus Wellington is a bell that attracts everything, from bandits to walkers.

    • She did nothing for the group? You obviously didn't read my other post properly. She even saves Kenny from Vitali. Kenny was the one who gave Clem the radio so he is forced to take it from her whether he likes it or not, I dont know how risking himself for his wife has anything to do with this -_- He lost an eye for her after he gave Clem the radio and nearly got her killed. What if Carver saw the radio in Clems jacket? He would've bashed her skull right in. If you save Kenny he is the one who puts some shitty excuses just to get your forgivness ( She-she could've said AJ was alive and I wouldve stopped the fight) Yeah right, big pack of lies right there. You are right about the last part,

    As I said, Jane has only been in the group for 2 weeks and she ALREADY DID MORE GOOD FOR CLEM AND THE GROUP MORE THAN KENNY'D EVER DO/ EVER DID. And Kenny has been with the group for 2 years...

    AlanSpencer posted: »

    * She got them out of Carver´s lair just because Telltale didn´t give us a dialogue choice to tell the group how we got out the Marshal´s Ho

  • edited September 2014

    His biggest flaw is being an asshole most times,and yeah,a lot of people don't like assholes.I for one,like his character.He's also good and caring man that protects his friends and family,but hey,if people don't like him,then that's totally fine by me.I respect people's opinion

    Also,they are not "haters".They actually give valid points of why they don't like him that even his fans know they're right(they just don't want to admit it).And just so you know,I'm getting tired of threads like these.Seriously,enough with all the Jane/Kenny bullshit.

  • He didnt look out for my Clem and Lee when they needed him most. That is when I was done with him.

  • This. I liked him until episode 4, then he refused to save Clem and I was like -.- but at least he left the group forever in episode 5.

    o wate

    KCohere posted: »

    He didnt look out for my Clem and Lee when they needed him most. That is when I was done with him.

  • Everyone is in Luke grieving mode, even if they don't know it.

    Legendary12 posted: »

    Personally I am over the whole Jane vs Kenny thing.. People are forgetting the rest of the episode before that... I am still in Luke grieving mode

    • My point had nothing do with being less or more useful, just that it shows that for all her criticism Jane is not any better that Kenny.
    • I called her selfish for her reasons for doing that.
    • True.
    • The point was that Clem was there because of Jane.
    • She did well there, I am no trying to say any different, but you wrote that the nail saved her life, and I pointed out that it was determinant. Nothing more.
    • I am trying to say that Jane couldn´t careless about the group, in the end, at the only reason she stole for Arvo was because Clem cared for the group.
    • That part of the ice only broke after the whole group passed over it. The ice could have breaked when Jane when to pick up Clem, but it was unlikely because it was not that fragile. That was also what I was saying by mentioning what happened with Arvo on the ice, that it was not that fragile.
    • What if the baby started crying while the fighting was going on, the walkers heard and break the window to bite him? You can say what you want, but Jane showed that she didn´t care that much about AJ by leaving him in the car.
    • If Clem loses the baby accidentally, he could be mad for a while, but he eventually could forgive her and admitted he was wrong-just like the Sarita situation. In no way could Kenny ever hit her or anything like that. Also, that Jane was the one that loosed the baby, one that said more than once that a baby is a burden, was the whole reason he reacted so strongly. Kenny didn´t choke her, he pushed her against the window of the Rest Stop. She is the one that goes for the kill first, slashing Kenny stomach, and she definitively wanted a fight. 'No happening. Is time to put this crusty piece of shit out of his misery', 'This is all your fucking fault', and the fact that she didn´t even once tried to explain what really happened with AJ show that she was looking for a fight to death.
    • You ignored a lot of my points regarding Howe´s, and being with a 'hardcore survivalist' doesn´t mean that a unsafe place is the best option, but whatever. Also, there are no reasons to think a group that gives supplies to random strangers could be that bad. Obviously bandits could be attracted to a place that looks to be doing so good, but you really think that a such a number of people with so many resources couldn´t quickly overwhelm any bandits? Also, explain how the hell Wellington attracts walkers.
    • She did nothing for the group, yes. Some of her actions benefited the group, but she did everything for Clem and for herself. Kenny wasn´t forced to take the radio, he could have just let Clem dealt with Carver´s anger if he had wanted to. I didn´t say he was risking himself for his wife, but risking to be killed in front of her. He didn´t nearly get her killed. Carver´s interactions with Clem plainly show that he respects her and has plans for her, so her punishment couldn´t have be as severe as Kenny´s. Kenny doesn´t put 'shitty excuses', he just tells the truth. What prevented Jane for running to the car, open the door and show Kenny that AJ is alive and let Clem make her own mind about both of them? Nothing.

    Also, Kenny was not with the group for 2 years, but for less than a year and half. And even if you are right about him doing shit for the group, I never said otherwise. I said that Kenny did more for Clem that Jane.

    ErenCoral posted: »

    * Hm this could be true but still, she was the one who suggested it first. * I praise her because she was smart to use his death in a way

  • Honestly I'm too lazy to reply back :P Let's just call it a day?

    AlanSpencer posted: »

    * My point had nothing do with being less or more useful, just that it shows that for all her criticism Jane is not any better that Kenny.

  • Fine. Fell free to respond some other day if you have nothing better to do.

    ErenCoral posted: »

    Honestly I'm too lazy to reply back :P Let's just call it a day?

  • There is over 5,000,000 of these threads, why are we still making more?

  • My Kenny was always a jerk to me after I refused to help him kill Larry. I found that he always did what he thought was best for the group, not always what was actually best. I just don't like him as a person. But, if Jane was the one about to kill him, I would have shot her instead of the other way around. I imagine a different interaction with your Lee and your Kenny would make you feel different about it.

    I was talking to my buddy about this, and he feels he got the ending he most wanted. He got to Wellington, which is where he wanted to go, and didn't have to stay with Kenny, who he never liked. So a Win-Win for him.

  • Are you sure you put your points in the order of my points? Since your number 2 point has nothing to do with my number 2 point...

    AlanSpencer posted: »

    Fine. Fell free to respond some other day if you have nothing better to do.

  • edited September 2014

    Yes. I just ignored the first point of your second post because there was nothing to debate there, and started answering since your second point. Also, since I forgot the first time I made this post, there were a couple of other points in which you basically only put 'ok, so I am rigth', so I also skipped said points.

    ErenCoral posted: »

    Are you sure you put your points in the order of my points? Since your number 2 point has nothing to do with my number 2 point...

  • Havent you heard? We are going into mass production and selling them to 3rd world country's... mooor kenny/threads people...go go go..

    Civilian posted: »

    There is over 5,000,000 of these threads, why are we still making more?

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