I made a decision in Ep.5 that few others did

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  • edited September 2014

    Going by your argument, we can say that everybody in the herd leaves Clem. Sarah bolts, leaving Clem, Luke and Nick run right past her, and don't even spare her a glance, and Mike leaves with Kenny as well, and we knew that he was a lot more level headed than Kenny was at that moment. That whole sequence isn't the most valid use of support, because it was an extremely high stress situation, everybody was freaking out. Save for Jane, who just shot a guy in the dick after giving the creepiest smile ever to be seen in twdg. He may not have had the right, but he just watched Sarita die like 2 seconds earlier, how can you blame him for his justified reaction when he's losing his lover in almost the same exact way as he did Duck? People lash out when they're grieving, Clem is the last family he has, so unfortunately she was on receiving end of this. And he apologizes later, so I don't see the issue here.

    RichWalk23 posted: »

    He DOES leave her. In fact, he runs off shouting "You had no right, Clementine! No fucking right!". He shouts at her out of anger, runs o

  • Actually 11% is just Jane

    Most people are with Jane and the family, I only really stayed with her because being on your own is suicide, besides she finally helped me rid the world of Kenny so she's not all that bad i guess :D.

  • Nobody is taking you seriously when you act like this y'know. Calm down, even if they are rephrasing your sentences, doesn't mean you need to conduct yourself like a child.

    ErenCoral posted: »

    Both of you are Pro-Kenny fans who are blinded by the truth and you both keep rephrasing my sentences to something I did not say. Also let m

  • She only wants Clementine because she sees herself in Clementine, and she wants company of people who are "like her"

    That's also selfish, she only wants Clem to herself.

    SadCat posted: »

    I understand where your coming from but Jaime and Clem aren't similar, she left Jaime because she gave up on living. I think she sees herself in Clementine, not Jaime

  • I am not rephrasing anything.

    Tinni posted: »

    Nobody is taking you seriously when you act like this y'know. Calm down, even if they are rephrasing your sentences, doesn't mean you need to conduct yourself like a child.

  • Bad to know people call bullshit excuses for a pretty girl "the truth" :l

    ErenCoral posted: »

    Bad to know some people are just blinded from the truth when it's in front of them

  • Took the words outta my mouth.

    Tinni posted: »

    Going by your argument, we can say that everybody in the herd leaves Clem. Sarah bolts, leaving Clem, Luke and Nick run right past her, and

  • edited September 2014

    The car wasn't warm, it's been sitting in the middle of a snow storm for who knows how long. The car would have to be started, in order for it to be warm.

    Uh yeah she did. She knew exactly how Kenny would react if he thought the baby was dead, she clearly planned for him to think that, because if she hadn't she would have explained to him that AJ was alive. But she didn't. Kenny started the physical fight, Jane started the fight with intent of murder, she had a knife, she threatened his life first after she wounded him. As Kenny said, where there's smoke there's fire. If you recall, Christa also planned on taking Clem to Wellington on just word of mouth. Everybody left Clem in that herd, that's not a good example. And Jane wants a Jaime 2.0, see what I did there? Your argument is so weak it can be used against you.

    ErenCoral posted: »

    ... She left him? She left him in a warm car that was close to them that was better for him than staying out in the snowstorm. It was the

  • rid the world of Kenny

    You're talking about him like he's a sub-human being, like he's a Nazi.

    Bull.

    Shit.

    Actually 11% is just Jane Most people are with Jane and the family, I only really stayed with her because being on your own is suicide, besides she finally helped me rid the world of Kenny so she's not all that bad i guess .

  • Nope :D

    ErenCoral posted: »

    It was the only way to show Clem Kenny's true colors and when Clem saw Kenny like that she knew she'd have to leave him. Jane wanted to leav

  • AWESOMEOAWESOMEO Banned
    edited September 2014

    By the way, you're a very rude person for calling me an asshole, you should also be ashamed that you let yourself say that only because you lacked in counter-arguments.

    Just wanted you to know.

    Myusha posted: »

    'Oh wow. Nice sentence. You sound like u try hard. To look fancy. With sentences.' What the fuck are you trying to even say? And I'm say

  • edited September 2014

    But that's just a selfish to take people and use them as a replacement. The moment the baby was born he took over it as if it was his own son.

    What would you suggest he do? Rebecca was clearly not well after she gave birth, she was too sick to properly care for her son. Do you mean to say he should leave AJ in the hands of people who have never been a parent before, and have no idea how to care for a child? Why is it so terrible that the birth of AJ reminded him of Duck when he was born? You sound so heartless tbh.

    I do know what's best for him and I know it is putting him out of his misery AKA killing him. I am also tired of explaining to people why shooting Kenny is the right choice and why going with Jane is the right choice but some people, they just refuse to listen ;)

    I just..As Winston would say, you have got to be fucking kidding me. Do you have any idea how ridiculous you sound, how closed minded and immature you sound? I rarely ask this, but seriously, how old are you?

    ErenCoral posted: »

    No, I'm saying leaving a baby anywhere to prove a goddamn point is dumb as fuuuuuuck. ... Replaces? That's just horrible, I do

  • It's not only that, the argument isn't only weak, it's also mostly fictional.

    He just makes things up and thinks we can buy it.

    Tinni posted: »

    The car wasn't warm, it's been sitting in the middle of a snow storm for who knows how long. The car would have to be started, in order for

  • You're not an asshole, these people just seem to be lacking a brain at the moment.

    AWESOMEO posted: »

    People adore Jane so much that they like to make extreme things up. Apparently I'm an asshole also

  • I just dont like him.... glad I got to finally shoot him after two seasons of his crap.

    But feel free to like and stay with Kenny, its up to you. But I dont like him and dont want to

    AWESOMEO posted: »

    rid the world of Kenny You're talking about him like he's a sub-human being, like he's a Nazi. Bull. Shit.

  • This thread is really loaded, so you shouldn't be here if you don't like Kenny, because I'm kinda pissed off since other people are saying some things, and I don't want to say things to you I'll regret later.

    I just dont like him.... glad I got to finally shoot him after two seasons of his crap. But feel free to like and stay with Kenny, its up to you. But I dont like him and dont want to

  • She see's what Jaime could have been in Clem, that's why she's so bent on keeping Clem to herself.

    SadCat posted: »

    I understand where your coming from but Jaime and Clem aren't similar, she left Jaime because she gave up on living. I think she sees herself in Clementine, not Jaime

  • Besides Kenny, everyone doesn't necessarily and deliberately leave Clementine to die in the herd.

    Sarah runs off in a panic after witnessing her father dying in a brutal manner, and I don't blame her for it. Luke and Nick runs off to find Sarah, and chances are they might not have noticed Clementine on her own as they were too focused on catching up to Sarah who have just ran off to the woods, so I don't blame them for it.

    Kenny's behaviour is what I find to be the problem. He's the nearest person to Clementine compared to the rest of the group, and regardless of what happens with Sarita, he leaves her behind in the herd in a fit of rage. It's one thing to be angry at Clementine, it's another to run off and abandon her. There's lashing out to your friends and loved ones when grieving, and then there's willingly leaving a child in a herd as punishment for what happened to Sarita.

    Tinni posted: »

    Going by your argument, we can say that everybody in the herd leaves Clem. Sarah bolts, leaving Clem, Luke and Nick run right past her, and

  • edited September 2014

    Fair enough. It just frustrates me when some fans act like he does nothing wrong. We can leave it at that.

    AWESOMEO posted: »

    I wouldn't say that, I didn't agree either, but I am not blind to Kenny's actions, I didn't even support his character that much up until this episode. Yeah I do justify him on things, but I'm not blind to things he did wrong.

  • edited September 2014

    Exactly. Remember his words from Season 1, EP2? "You took care of the kids. That's what a real man does." He would never hurt Clem.

    Tinni posted: »

    He didn't touch Clem, why are you immediately deducing that because he yelled at Clem, because she was the last one with Sarita when she was

  • I don't know whether to laugh or cry while reading this person's so called argument.

    AWESOMEO posted: »

    It's not only that, the argument isn't only weak, it's also mostly fictional. He just makes things up and thinks we can buy it.

  • Then dont.... let people be happy with what they did, and to be fair I answered the OP with my first post and my reason why. I dont see what part of this thread says I cant be here if I dont like Kenny, this thread isnt even about Kenny, its about what ending you had

    AWESOMEO posted: »

    This thread is really loaded, so you shouldn't be here if you don't like Kenny, because I'm kinda pissed off since other people are saying some things, and I don't want to say things to you I'll regret later.

  • xD

    Tinni posted: »

    But that's just a selfish to take people and use them as a replacement. The moment the baby was born he took over it as if it was his own so

  • AWESOMEO, you have reinforced my faith in these forums...and in humanity.

  • The word "Logical" consists of the word "Logic", which I don't see in any of your posts.

    :)

    ErenCoral posted: »

    It's a logical opinion. And we'll see

  • edited September 2014

    Kenny saw through Jane's shadiness, if you were paying attention to her body language and facial expressions you would see that she was hiding something. Kenny just didn't know what until later. And hypothetically if Jane was telling the truth(which she wasn't) if losing AJ was an accident, why was there no sign of struggle(ie; blood, ripped clothing) on Jane's end? I assume that Kenny looked as much as he could for the remains of AJ in the storm, so why was there no blood in the snow? Why were there no walkers finishing eating AJ? There are several holes in Jane's story, which is why Kenny comes back so angry, because he knows she's lying.

    ErenCoral posted: »

    Lee was enraged but he killed the senator accidentally. Lilly didn't kill Carley accidentally, she pulled a gun at her head and shot her. Ke

  • AWESOMEOAWESOMEO Banned
    edited September 2014

    Still, no matter if you're right or wrong, face the facts:

    He.

    Does.

    Not.

    Want.

    Clementine.

    Dead.

    You can't judge a grieving person, you can't judge him for "abandoning" (in quotation because ridiculous) Clementine, and she is all he has left except for AJ, there's just no reason for him to abandon her if later in the episode he sacrificed his spot in a safe community for her.

    RichWalk23 posted: »

    Besides Kenny, everyone doesn't necessarily and deliberately leave Clementine to die in the herd. Sarah runs off in a panic after witness

  • Gustav_KennyGustav_Kenny Banned
    edited September 2014

    I shot Kenny, I still don't have any regrets, I didn't do it for Jane tho... I DID IT FOR #MyRandy

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  • AWESOMEOAWESOMEO Banned
    edited September 2014

    I get it, it's like Pewdiepie's fanbase, some of them just defend him no matter what, others look and consider both sides then make a choice.

    KCohere posted: »

    Fair enough. It just frustrates me when some fans act like he does nothing wrong. We can leave it at that.

  • Perhaps not after the walker herd, or after the Kenny vs Jane conflict in No Going Back, but his actions during the walker herd with Clementine and Sarita does imply otherwise.

    AWESOMEO posted: »

    Still, no matter if you're right or wrong, face the facts: He. Does. Not. Want. Clementine. Dead. You can't judge a gri

  • I didn't say you can't be here, don't turn me into something I'm not.

    I'm just giving you an advice.

    Then dont.... let people be happy with what they did, and to be fair I answered the OP with my first post and my reason why. I dont see wh

  • edited September 2014

    so you shouldn't be here if you don't like Kenny

    And its fine I dont mind, these threads about Kenny and Jane are overused anyway

    AWESOMEO posted: »

    I didn't say you can't be here, don't turn me into something I'm not. I'm just giving you an advice.

  • edited September 2014

    RichWalk23, watch this video.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i02x6JafBdw

    He never leaves Clem. Mike drags him away, Clem tries to follow them, stumbles against the herd of walkers and gets lost. It’s around the 4:00 minute mark.

    RichWalk23 posted: »

    How is seeing him run off without Clementine by his side in a walker heard misinterpreting him? If that isn't leaving Clementine behind, I d

  • And that also goes under the category of "ego-maniac and selfish" ;)

    ooooooo also possessive :D

    Tinni posted: »

    She see's what Jaime could have been in Clem, that's why she's so bent on keeping Clem to herself.

  • Kenny just watched his girlfriend get eaten by walkers, or he had to leave her to die and turn, or he was concerned with getting Sarita, who is bitten, out of the herd. Either way, Kenny isn't thinking clearly, nor is anyone else. That is the only reason I brought up Sarah, Nick, Luke, and Mike. I don't think that situation is the best use of support, everybody was panicked, people were shooting at them, they were in the middle of a massive herd. I don't believe Kenny left Clem as a form of punishment, as I said earlier, he was still too preoccupied with what was happening to Sarita. And tbh, she was still covered in walker blood, no walkers approached them even when Kenny was shouting over Sarita.

    RichWalk23 posted: »

    Besides Kenny, everyone doesn't necessarily and deliberately leave Clementine to die in the herd. Sarah runs off in a panic after witness

  • AWESOMEOAWESOMEO Banned
    edited September 2014

    It doesn't make sense though, why would he leave her for dead and later give up the place he was looking for all this time for her?

    You see how that just isn't logical?

    RichWalk23 posted: »

    Perhaps not after the walker herd, or after the Kenny vs Jane conflict in No Going Back, but his actions during the walker herd with Clementine and Sarita does imply otherwise.

  • True, Mike drags him away. I won't fault Kenny on that.

    However, there are game paths where Mike doesn't drag Kenny away. In those Kenny still runs off and leaves Clementine behind.

    AlanSpencer posted: »

    RichWalk23, watch this video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i02x6JafBdw He never leaves Clem. Mike drags him away, Clem tries to follow them, stumbles against the herd of walkers and gets lost. It’s around the 4:00 minute mark.

  • You don't make somebody do something. There are thousands of people in prison right now because they were provoked into killing somebody. We wouldn't dare suggest that they were in the right to kill somebody just because they were provoked, why would we do it here? Because it's the zombie apocalypse? Fuck that, that's a pathetic excuse. Because he's your friend? If you can let your friend kill somebody who might not deserve it you're worse than they are. At least Kenny would have a mediocre excuse, you don't. Justify it all you want - murder is murder, regardless of your reasons.

    AWESOMEO posted: »

    Jane made Kenny go off like that, any person would, she fucking "killed" his baby, what did she expect? I'll tell you what she expected -

  • Mike dragging Kenny away is not determinant.

    RichWalk23 posted: »

    True, Mike drags him away. I won't fault Kenny on that. However, there are game paths where Mike doesn't drag Kenny away. In those Kenny still runs off and leaves Clementine behind.

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    AWESOMEO posted: »

    And that also goes under the category of "ego-maniac and selfish" ooooooo also possessive

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