I even found Carl to be plain irritating at times throughout the TV series, and probably wouldn't even remotely care if he died. Clem's a whole different story, though... Telltale ingeniously make you love her as a sister/daughter and keep you fully engrossed in their vision.
I never understood the reason why some people want Clementine's story to end at Season 2. Season 3 without Clem is a significant step backwa… morerds for Telltale. Clementine is a extremely exceptional video game character. she can't go to waste. I guess the reason why some people don't want Clem in season 3 is because deep down she is too good for The Walking Dead. She's far more compelling than the TV and Comic Characters. I wouldn't be surprised if Robert Kirkman is afraid of her because her character can potentially overshadow all of his creations
Yeah, I'm pretty damn scared about Season 3 at this point and I'm beginning to doubt that they'll continue Clem's story. Chances are if she isn't involved, I'll either ignore the season entirely or buy it when it becomes extremely cheap so I don't feel like I've wasted much.
If the reviews are stellar however then I suppose I'll pick it up... If not, then meeeeeh.
If Telltale know whats good for them and they don't want to lose most of their fanbase Clem will definitely be in season 3... If they want t… moreo piss everyone (including me) off then its not going to be good for them... Her story just doesn't feel 100% complete yet to me...
But knowing my Luck every good character gets ended early and Is replaced by someone I don't even care about... They should build off original Characters like Clem instead of trying to introduce new and shittier ones...
If Telltale know whats good for them and they don't want to lose most of their fanbase Clem will definitely be in season 3... If they want t… moreo piss everyone (including me) off then its not going to be good for them... Her story just doesn't feel 100% complete yet to me...
But knowing my Luck every good character gets ended early and Is replaced by someone I don't even care about... They should build off original Characters like Clem instead of trying to introduce new and shittier ones...
Mhm. We've been in her shoes for too long now... She has become The Walking Dead Game. I'd be hugely surprised if Telltale ever managed to create a character as memorable as Clementine in any future games.
Haha, I know the feel. My friends probably think I'm insane considering the amount I go on about Clementine and The Walking Dead... They just don't understand! :P
People around me don't fully understand my love for this story. Whenever I got through an episode, I couldn't wait to tell other people what… more happened. I'm sure they think I'm weird. But like you, I also made this account today, wanting to discuss this game with other people who appreciate it as much as I do. I'm more attached to Clementine than I have been to ANY character, in ANY story, in ANY media form. EVER. She's just flippin' amazing.
There's several ways to deal with the direction of this game's story, but, if Clementine disappears permanently, the soul of the game is gone. You could push her into the background for a while, I suppose, but I'd be bummed out trying to play Walking Dead with no Clementine.
Of course I want Season 3 to have a new protagonist. Clem's story-arc is finished. Stop trying to make this franchise into another sequel-hell. People need to move on.
Unfortunatly that is how people work. They are going to put a ''HATE'' tag over anything they can not relate to. And ''The Walking Dead'' is a game that you must play in order to understand and love. So the best way to get through this is to force them to play it.
People around me don't fully understand my love for this story. Whenever I got through an episode, I couldn't wait to tell other people what… more happened. I'm sure they think I'm weird. But like you, I also made this account today, wanting to discuss this game with other people who appreciate it as much as I do. I'm more attached to Clementine than I have been to ANY character, in ANY story, in ANY media form. EVER. She's just flippin' amazing.
There's several ways to deal with the direction of this game's story, but, if Clementine disappears permanently, the soul of the game is gone. You could push her into the background for a while, I suppose, but I'd be bummed out trying to play Walking Dead with no Clementine.
Yeah, but it isn't finished... Certainly doesn't feel finished that's for sure. And whether Clem's involved or not, the game's still getting a sequel so it may as well feature the character most people love.
If anything cutting Clem off transforms the franchise into a 'sequel hell'. It should end with Clem's story rather than them churning out a new protagonist so they can continue to make money.
Of course I want Season 3 to have a new protagonist. Clem's story-arc is finished. Stop trying to make this franchise into another sequel-hell. People need to move on.
Of course I want Season 3 to have a new protagonist. Clem's story-arc is finished. Stop trying to make this franchise into another sequel-hell. People need to move on.
I have to pretty much harass my close friend into playing it... Takes a lot of effort for him to jump in and continue his playthrough. He's on A Long Road Ahead atm and doesn't seem to give a shit about any of the characters or what's going on in any way. I can't understand it.
Unfortunatly that is how people work. They are going to put a ''HATE'' tag over anything they can not relate to. And ''The Walking Dead'' is… more a game that you must play in order to understand and love. So the best way to get through this is to force them to play it.
I bet he is a good guy. But I think that if you can not apreaciate a story like that then you are the usual ''Call Of Duty'' noob who thinks (s)he is the best player in the world and that all the other games suck. But I still bet he is a great guy.
I have to pretty much harass my close friend into playing it... Takes a lot of effort for him to jump in and continue his playthrough. He's … moreon A Long Road Ahead atm and doesn't seem to give a shit about any of the characters or what's going on in any way. I can't understand it.
@Hazzer Agreed, I would rather finish off the game with Clem in season 3 rather than them starting new characters and stories and making all these sequels just for money.
I do not think they care that much about money. I mean they do but not like EA much. And anyway, if they took away one of the things that we love the most about this game then the the sales would drop like rain. So, taking Clem out would be a death sentence for the walking dead.
@Hazzer Agreed, I would rather finish off the game with Clem in season 3 rather than them starting new characters and stories and making all these sequels just for money.
Ha, true that. He generally dislikes singleplayer games... Simply doesn't have the attention span for them. He tends to religiously play CS:GO and Borderlands more than anything.
I bet he is a good guy. But I think that if you can not apreaciate a story like that then you are the usual ''Call Of Duty'' noob who thinks (s)he is the best player in the world and that all the other games suck. But I still bet he is a great guy.
Yea after reading his comment that he wrote to the thread and not me it made alittle more sense, I would agree
With him totally, but some of the ending were just inconclusive to me. Now I'm not sure what's going to happen XD
PoppyP has a very good point...BUT, there's ways to continue Clem's story.
Jane and Clem are unlikely to be able to control Howe's by the… moremselves, or with that family. And just like Woodbury fell, the prison fell, and Terminus is suspect, the same potential is present for Wellington to be not all it's cracked up to be. This could push the direction of all the Season 2 endings into the same location by episode 2 or 3, eventually forcing Kenny/Jane out of the story anyway. It's like what they did with both Alvin and Nick surviving across episodes but dying eventually, but a bit more difficult because it would take a while to accomplish. More difficult, but not impossible. That would line those endings up with the Clementine and AJ alone ending.
Lol. I like borderlands too thogh. Its universe is way bigger than some people think. But I honestly did not think that my predictions wouls come out right. X)
Ha, true that. He generally dislikes singleplayer games... Simply doesn't have the attention span for them. He tends to religiously play CS:GO and Borderlands more than anything.
Can't wait for Tales from the Borderlands. I can't remember any of the Borderlands storyline but I'm sure Telltale will absorb me right into the universe.
Lol. I like borderlands too thogh. Its universe is way bigger than some people think. But I honestly did not think that my predictions wouls come out right. X)
I do not think they care that much about money. I mean they do but not like EA much. And anyway, if they took away one of the things that we… more love the most about this game then the the sales would drop like rain. So, taking Clem out would be a death sentence for the walking dead.
A) Me too, it is like the only game I can think of whenever people ask me ''If you could get a game that is not yet released what would it be?'' and There is a thread that will expane you everything you need o know about the bordrelands universe. I think it 's named ''An itroduction to the Borderlands univers (mojor spoilers for Borderlands 1 and 2)''. I would have linked it to you bit I suck at this kind of stuff.
Can't wait for Tales from the Borderlands. I can't remember any of the Borderlands storyline but I'm sure Telltale will absorb me right into the universe.
yeah the problem a game has that a tv show or a comic doesn't, is that the tv show and the comic can just switch between character perspectives and even have non central character stories during a season/run, whereas the game can't, especially in a short season of only 5 episodes, this makes singular character stories like the game get old and repetitive very quickly, it's best to just move on with a fresh new perspective than to keep churning out clementine stories and just make people bored of another clementine story
Of course I want Season 3 to have a new protagonist. Clem's story-arc is finished. Stop trying to make this franchise into another sequel-hell. People need to move on.
A) Me too, it is like the only game I can think of whenever people ask me ''If you could get a game that is not yet released what would it b… moree?'' and There is a thread that will expane you everything you need o know about the bordrelands universe. I think it 's named ''An itroduction to the Borderlands univers (mojor spoilers for Borderlands 1 and 2)''. I would have linked it to you bit I suck at this kind of stuff.
I agree with this thread 100% I've said long ago I liked the idea growing with Clem as a survivor in the ZA. She has a lot more story to go… more!
I will admit I never wanted to be stuck with AJ, but I wouldnt mind a few years timeskip.
Clem is around 15, AJ about 5 but has grown up as a zombie killing team.
Otherwise [Hire a babysitter] or [Put in backpack]
I got into The Walking Dead as a comic. I was one of the few I know who loved both the comic and the show. I've been a fan since 2006 and … moreI can safely say the Clem story is by far my favorite. I have also played Monkey Island, Sam and Max, and Wolf Among us and haven't made an account here until today. I'm doing it for one reason, to say my two cents, "Keep this story alive!" I know the endings were all different and rather conclusive, but I really think what has been created with Clem exceeded all other feels in all other games. I came for Rick but stayed for Clem.
Really no new problems?? with every ending there was there is a way to continue. yes the problem would be how to continue and bringing all endings and continue in a place where they are at the same place, but it could be done. I cant see how people see it as over. she has a fucking baby with her, that's a NEW problem. and your talking about movies, and the road, I kinda wanted to see a sequel. the ending was kinda sad as the S1 ending, but not too close to that level. and besides it was what?? 1:30 hrs long, where the game has been how ever long it has been between the 2 season.
Stories have to have a beginning, middle, and an ending... That's typically the natural progression of a character arc.
Clementine, I bel… moreieve, has reached hers with the end of season 2. By the end of season 1, she was alone, completely. There was all kind of territory Telltale could have explored with her character. That territory has been explored and exhausted though. At the end of season 2, she is now a born-again-battle-hardened survivor. What kind of development could her character have? What new problems could someone like Clementine face?
The reason films like Rebel Without A Cause, Taxi Driver, Easy Rider, Fight Club, Apocalypse Now, and Mean Streets (along with others) are so interesting is because they were their own self-contained stories about one particular character (or characters) facing an individual dilemma with the events and conflict coming to a head and wrapping up the story. A clear concise story.
I love Clementine's character, but she has run her course...
heh the game has already overshadowed everything kirkman has ever done. I and love the comics and I really like the show, I started watching when it first came out.
I never understood the reason why some people want Clementine's story to end at Season 2. Season 3 without Clem is a significant step backwa… morerds for Telltale. Clementine is a extremely exceptional video game character. she can't go to waste. I guess the reason why some people don't want Clem in season 3 is because deep down she is too good for The Walking Dead. She's far more compelling than the TV and Comic Characters. I wouldn't be surprised if Robert Kirkman is afraid of her because her character can potentially overshadow all of his creations
Of course I want Season 3 to have a new protagonist. Clem's story-arc is finished. Stop trying to make this franchise into another sequel-hell. People need to move on.
I hope you're right. There's also that huge silent majority that doesn't post here, and I wonder what most people who have played the game actually want for Season 3.
Do you remember 400 days DLC? There were few stories, and all of them at the end quite nice fit together. I believe that it's not a problem for TT that TWD2 had 5 different endings.
I guess the next protagonist in s3 will be AJ (teenage or adult) and Clem will die because it would be very difficult to continue the story of Clem from 5 different endings. And that's why I think a story with multiple endings is stupid.
I feel the same :< I finished Ep5 one day after release and I still thinking about TWD3 and what TT want to show as in new season. I'm now addicted to that game and to Clem also, and if TT want to rid her of from the game, then I say "Goodbye". Maybe that looks like threat to Telltale Games, but they should know what players really want, and then they can start thinking about season 3. They made something unbelievable by making TWD Season 2 one of the best game of last years in my opinion (we all know that it's happen very often that game continuations are usually poor comparing to the first one, in this case it's different and TT should keep that way all the time).
I've started to watch the TV series in order to satiate my hunger for Season 3. X_X I'm already desperate and have pretty much developed a s… moreort of faux separation disorder even though it's only been a week or so since Season 2's finale. Maybe I'll pick up The Walking Dead comics as well seeing as I hear they're good.
I totally agree. c: Fingers crossed Telltale cater to what most players want and bring us more awesome moments with Clementine. If they don't... They're gonna lose a ton of fans.
I feel the same :< I finished Ep5 one day after release and I still thinking about TWD3 and what TT want to show as in new season. I'm no… morew addicted to that game and to Clem also, and if TT want to rid her of from the game, then I say "Goodbye". Maybe that looks like threat to Telltale Games, but they should know what players really want, and then they can start thinking about season 3. They made something unbelievable by making TWD Season 2 one of the best game of last years in my opinion (we all know that it's happen very often that game continuations are usually poor comparing to the first one, in this case it's different and TT should keep that way all the time).
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I even found Carl to be plain irritating at times throughout the TV series, and probably wouldn't even remotely care if he died. Clem's a whole different story, though... Telltale ingeniously make you love her as a sister/daughter and keep you fully engrossed in their vision.
Yeah, I'm pretty damn scared about Season 3 at this point and I'm beginning to doubt that they'll continue Clem's story. Chances are if she isn't involved, I'll either ignore the season entirely or buy it when it becomes extremely cheap so I don't feel like I've wasted much.
If the reviews are stellar however then I suppose I'll pick it up... If not, then meeeeeh.
Agreed.
They probably won't, they did a hell of a job with Bigby though.
Haha, I know the feel. My friends probably think I'm insane considering the amount I go on about Clementine and The Walking Dead... They just don't understand! :P
Of course I want Season 3 to have a new protagonist. Clem's story-arc is finished. Stop trying to make this franchise into another sequel-hell. People need to move on.
No a 16 year old protagonist
Well, the comic is only 4 years into the ZA so AJ being a 16 year old protagonist is impossible right now.
Yeah, ngl, Bigby was a brilliant character. Don't think I'll remember him for decades to come though.
Unfortunatly that is how people work. They are going to put a ''HATE'' tag over anything they can not relate to. And ''The Walking Dead'' is a game that you must play in order to understand and love. So the best way to get through this is to force them to play it.
Yeah, but it isn't finished... Certainly doesn't feel finished that's for sure. And whether Clem's involved or not, the game's still getting a sequel so it may as well feature the character most people love.
If anything cutting Clem off transforms the franchise into a 'sequel hell'. It should end with Clem's story rather than them churning out a new protagonist so they can continue to make money.
I hate mike
Fuck you (to Ode to the Dead i mean not Hazzer)
I have to pretty much harass my close friend into playing it... Takes a lot of effort for him to jump in and continue his playthrough. He's on A Long Road Ahead atm and doesn't seem to give a shit about any of the characters or what's going on in any way. I can't understand it.
Cool.
I really REALLY want to see Clem again.
I bet he is a good guy. But I think that if you can not apreaciate a story like that then you are the usual ''Call Of Duty'' noob who thinks (s)he is the best player in the world and that all the other games suck. But I still bet he is a great guy.
@Hazzer Agreed, I would rather finish off the game with Clem in season 3 rather than them starting new characters and stories and making all these sequels just for money.
I do not think they care that much about money. I mean they do but not like EA much. And anyway, if they took away one of the things that we love the most about this game then the the sales would drop like rain. So, taking Clem out would be a death sentence for the walking dead.
Ha, true that. He generally dislikes singleplayer games... Simply doesn't have the attention span for them. He tends to religiously play CS:GO and Borderlands more than anything.
Yea after reading his comment that he wrote to the thread and not me it made alittle more sense, I would agree
With him totally, but some of the ending were just inconclusive to me. Now I'm not sure what's going to happen XD
Lol. I like borderlands too thogh. Its universe is way bigger than some people think. But I honestly did not think that my predictions wouls come out right. X)
Can't wait for Tales from the Borderlands. I can't remember any of the Borderlands storyline but I'm sure Telltale will absorb me right into the universe.
Yup. With luck Telltale will never grow into a greedy, corporate behemoth like EA.
A) Me too, it is like the only game I can think of whenever people ask me ''If you could get a game that is not yet released what would it be?'' and
There is a thread that will expane you everything you need o know about the bordrelands universe. I think it 's named ''An itroduction to the Borderlands univers (mojor spoilers for Borderlands 1 and 2)''. I would have linked it to you bit I suck at this kind of stuff. 
While I may agree with your opinion there's still no need to tell him to fuck off. :P He's allowed to voice his thoughts.
yeah the problem a game has that a tv show or a comic doesn't, is that the tv show and the comic can just switch between character perspectives and even have non central character stories during a season/run, whereas the game can't, especially in a short season of only 5 episodes, this makes singular character stories like the game get old and repetitive very quickly, it's best to just move on with a fresh new perspective than to keep churning out clementine stories and just make people bored of another clementine story
Cool, thanks for the info, I'll search for it.
It should not be too hard to find. Good luck.
4 year skip??? that's to much imo. hell im not even sure I want a 2 year skip. idk but it would be like, too much, like they already did it.
We are like the same person then, i read the comics before the show or anything else about walking dead
Lol. That is awsome.
Really no new problems?? with every ending there was there is a way to continue. yes the problem would be how to continue and bringing all endings and continue in a place where they are at the same place, but it could be done. I cant see how people see it as over. she has a fucking baby with her, that's a NEW problem. and your talking about movies, and the road, I kinda wanted to see a sequel. the ending was kinda sad as the S1 ending, but not too close to that level. and besides it was what?? 1:30 hrs long, where the game has been how ever long it has been between the 2 season.
heh the game has already overshadowed everything kirkman has ever done. I and love the comics and I really like the show, I started watching when it first came out.
hope TT doesn't listen to you few, cuz trust me its just a few of yall, that want clem gone.
I hope you're right. There's also that huge silent majority that doesn't post here, and I wonder what most people who have played the game actually want for Season 3.
Do you remember 400 days DLC? There were few stories, and all of them at the end quite nice fit together. I believe that it's not a problem for TT that TWD2 had 5 different endings.
I feel the same :< I finished Ep5 one day after release and I still thinking about TWD3 and what TT want to show as in new season. I'm now addicted to that game and to Clem also, and if TT want to rid her of from the game, then I say "Goodbye". Maybe that looks like threat to Telltale Games, but they should know what players really want, and then they can start thinking about season 3. They made something unbelievable by making TWD Season 2 one of the best game of last years in my opinion (we all know that it's happen very often that game continuations are usually poor comparing to the first one, in this case it's different and TT should keep that way all the time).
I totally agree. c: Fingers crossed Telltale cater to what most players want and bring us more awesome moments with Clementine. If they don't... They're gonna lose a ton of fans.