Zyphon Jane fanatics won't understand "Ultimately... Well, I won't say Kenny was right, but Jane was more wrong. Also, the Kenny ending is far superior to any of the others.". Maybe it's just their hate for Kenny who make them blind to what Jane did wrong idk.
should also mention if you tell jane to back off instead of getting between them she says its time to put this crusty fuck out of his misery or something like that so people saying jane didn't want to kill kenny thats bullshit
Keeping a group together is very hard especially in these strained situations... Better would just be if they split up before killing eachother. Since they clearly couldn't clear stuff up.
Democracy : Takes super long time because you have to think of everything and listen to everyones smallest concern whilst nobody seems to come up with an idea that is good. Then when they finally have to pick between rotten fish / eggs they vote but it took them x amount of time.
Kennys rule: fk it let's go to wellington, I get the car.
Actually, that was never the plan. Kenny made reference to it, but the only idea they had after getting out of Howe's was to make it to that… more museum. Then Kenny saw some town in the distance and forgot all about it in episode 5. It was only when the truck started up that Kenny started talking about Wellington finally, and everyone had their own different ideas that involved getting out of the cold.
As for the arguing, Kenny instigated just as much if not more than Luke. Hell, he was being a complete prick in episode 2 towards Luke and Nick, who he had just met, for no reason at all. I agree, though, that the Luke/Kenny dynamic was really forced in. It could have worked, but it felt manipulated right from the start.
people weren't offering up their own good ideas they were just disagreeing with kenny (acting like children, that didn't like being told what to do), which is different from the season one kenny/lilly thing where lilly was … [view original content]
Zyphon Jane fanatics won't understand "Ultimately... Well, I won't say Kenny was right, but Jane was more wrong. Also, the Kenny ending is f… morear superior to any of the others.". Maybe it's just their hate for Kenny who make them blind to what Jane did wrong idk.
Both were equally wrong. Jane had proven her point back in the building which is why she sheath her knife but Kenny caused the fight to happen anyways. Kenny wanted to kill Jane just as much, if not more.
I agree she started off more in the wrong because she put Aj in danger. However Ken became equally as wrong when he initiated the fight. Both of them put Clem in danger and risked attracting any walker that wasn't effected by the snow yet.
How do u figure? Kenny was driven to a point he should not have reached and so was jane, also jane was responsible for getting both of them there in the first place, but kenny was attempting to kill jane out of vengance,while jane was attempting to kill kenny out of(no i dont agree that it was out of self defense at that point they were both out for blood), a more noble cause. Furthermore, while we can all agree that Kenny had every right to be absolutely devastated\livid and while we can all empathize with him it doesnt make his actions any less wrong. My point again being niether is more right or wrong than the other. At the end both of them acknowledge their mistakes( Jane's stupidity and Kenny's instability). If any1 wants to retort please, please be open and respectful to my opinions as i will be 2 yours.
The group was against going to wellington, especially sense Rebecca had her baby. Once Rebecca died the group was like there's no point in turning back now.
I personally wouldn't agree with Kenny either. I mean the man wanted to shoot Arvo after they finished off that last Russian. Then he treated the boy like a prisoner. Kenny started to look like Carver sooooo yeah it's only natural that the group would have problems with him. And I think that also explains Jane's actions, even though I don't agree with what she did.
but it was the others that were against him first, the plan all along was heading to wellington and then all of a sudden after he fixes the … morecar they change their mind.
plus there was the constant arguing with luke which luke instigated, it just felt like a forced kenny/lilly = kenny/luke thing.
people weren't offering up their own good ideas they were just disagreeing with kenny (acting like children, that didn't like being told what to do), which is different from the season one kenny/lilly thing where lilly was in charge, and wanted to stay at the motel whereas kenny wanted to fix the RV and move on.
there has to be someone in charge making decisions, because else nothing will get done, but there is a difference between disagreeing with a leaders ideas and offering up other solutions in a adult and reasonable way and just disagreeing and arguing about something in a childish manner.
i not saying kenny is the king of reasonable d… [view original content]
they were always heading north since they left the cabin, it was always the plan, and it wasn't just episode 5 where people were acting like children, luke was constantly going against kenny for no particular reason at all, and if he had shown a little respect to kenny he would have gotten it back.
as i said the only reason the writers did this was so that a child would have a reason to have any input into adult conversations, but it just made most of the characters seem stupid and annoying.
arvo at that point was a danger and another mouth to feed, and kenny didn't kill him because that was the consensus of the group, if he was reckless and crazy he would have just killed arvo.
The group was against going to wellington, especially sense Rebecca had her baby. Once Rebecca died the group was like there's no point in t… moreurning back now.
I personally wouldn't agree with Kenny either. I mean the man wanted to shoot Arvo after they finished off that last Russian. Then he treated the boy like a prisoner. Kenny started to look like Carver sooooo yeah it's only natural that the group would have problems with him. And I think that also explains Jane's actions, even though I don't agree with what she did.
There are so many threats like these... I wish people could do a search before they make a new threat. This one actually has a pretty good analysis of the whole fighting scene.
I said the group was against heading to wellington. I didn't say they had a problem with heading north. Plus at the time when the agreed to go North they only did so because Carver had found them. Luke had a hole in his leg so I understand why he was argumentative. Plus he did not like Kenny from the get go. On top of that he suggested that they should stay back at that building where the deck collapsed so Rebecca's body could recover. I'm sure Luke felt that Kenny was partially responsible for her death because he insisted that they get going.....THE NEXT DAY. I mean seriously he would not have done that to Kat or that other woman he was dating. The other three had a problem with Kenny because to them he seemed a bit controlling. They were under the rule of someone, prior to Kenny, who was also controlling -cough- carver -cough-.
Also you mean to tell me that beating up a crippled kid isn't reckless and crazy? Kenny threaten to kill him for why? Arvo was not a threat. They could have simply just left him. That's what I would've done.
they were always heading north since they left the cabin, it was always the plan, and it wasn't just episode 5 where people were acting like… more children, luke was constantly going against kenny for no particular reason at all, and if he had shown a little respect to kenny he would have gotten it back.
as i said the only reason the writers did this was so that a child would have a reason to have any input into adult conversations, but it just made most of the characters seem stupid and annoying.
arvo at that point was a danger and another mouth to feed, and kenny didn't kill him because that was the consensus of the group, if he was reckless and crazy he would have just killed arvo.
I said the group was against heading to wellington. I didn't say they had a problem with heading north. Plus at the time when the agreed to … morego North they only did so because Carver had found them. Luke had a hole in his leg so I understand why he was argumentative. Plus he did not like Kenny from the get go. On top of that he suggested that they should stay back at that building where the deck collapsed so Rebecca's body could recover. I'm sure Luke felt that Kenny was partially responsible for her death because he insisted that they get going.....THE NEXT DAY. I mean seriously he would not have done that to Kat or that other woman he was dating. The other three had a problem with Kenny because to them he seemed a bit controlling. They were under the rule of someone, prior to Kenny, who was also controlling -cough- carver -cough-.
Also you mean to tell me that beating up a crippled kid isn't reckless and crazy? Kenny threaten to kill him f… [view original content]
I missed that. Yeah I know it was my choice. I never said I choice to leave the next day though. My problem is the fact that Kenny would consider something like that.
you know that was your choice to leave the next day, i stayed for a few days to "help" rebecca recover.
also i did say kenny went to far beating arvo, look up a bit ^^
well, they had no food and the weather was just turning bad, in reality three days into snowy weather would be worse then one night into snowy weather, even though the game didn't show if for budget and time purposes, there would be real consequences to waiting three days with no food in a snow storm, in reality moving off the next day would have avoided a lot of bad weather and they would have had more energy and not be starving, but because the game wanted an identical arvo and the russians scene there was no difference.
my first playthrough i thought (for a moment) it was my fault the weather was so bad and rebecca died because she had no food, but then i realised they wouldn't make things that different.
I missed that. Yeah I know it was my choice. I never said I choice to leave the next day though. My problem is the fact that Kenny would consider something like that.
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You don't want to watch someone kill a person? But it's ok if you do it? Maybe Jane should kill you to stop you from killing Kenny. Killception.
A moment of madness? Do you mean rage?
Zyphon Jane fanatics won't understand "Ultimately... Well, I won't say Kenny was right, but Jane was more wrong. Also, the Kenny ending is far superior to any of the others.". Maybe it's just their hate for Kenny who make them blind to what Jane did wrong idk.
Keeping a group together is very hard especially in these strained situations... Better would just be if they split up before killing eachother. Since they clearly couldn't clear stuff up.
Democracy : Takes super long time because you have to think of everything and listen to everyones smallest concern whilst nobody seems to come up with an idea that is good. Then when they finally have to pick between rotten fish / eggs they vote but it took them x amount of time.
Kennys rule: fk it let's go to wellington, I get the car.
They were both wrong. Y cant any1 see that?
i know that they were both wrong kenny should have calmed down but jane was in the wrong more
Both were equally wrong. Jane had proven her point back in the building which is why she sheath her knife but Kenny caused the fight to happen anyways. Kenny wanted to kill Jane just as much, if not more.
He beat up lee in my game
I agree she started off more in the wrong because she put Aj in danger. However Ken became equally as wrong when he initiated the fight. Both of them put Clem in danger and risked attracting any walker that wasn't effected by the snow yet.
How do u figure? Kenny was driven to a point he should not have reached and so was jane, also jane was responsible for getting both of them there in the first place, but kenny was attempting to kill jane out of vengance,while jane was attempting to kill kenny out of(no i dont agree that it was out of self defense at that point they were both out for blood), a more noble cause. Furthermore, while we can all agree that Kenny had every right to be absolutely devastated\livid and while we can all empathize with him it doesnt make his actions any less wrong. My point again being niether is more right or wrong than the other. At the end both of them acknowledge their mistakes( Jane's stupidity and Kenny's instability). If any1 wants to retort please, please be open and respectful to my opinions as i will be 2 yours.
The group was against going to wellington, especially sense Rebecca had her baby. Once Rebecca died the group was like there's no point in turning back now.
I personally wouldn't agree with Kenny either. I mean the man wanted to shoot Arvo after they finished off that last Russian. Then he treated the boy like a prisoner. Kenny started to look like Carver sooooo yeah it's only natural that the group would have problems with him. And I think that also explains Jane's actions, even though I don't agree with what she did.
they were always heading north since they left the cabin, it was always the plan, and it wasn't just episode 5 where people were acting like children, luke was constantly going against kenny for no particular reason at all, and if he had shown a little respect to kenny he would have gotten it back.
as i said the only reason the writers did this was so that a child would have a reason to have any input into adult conversations, but it just made most of the characters seem stupid and annoying.
arvo at that point was a danger and another mouth to feed, and kenny didn't kill him because that was the consensus of the group, if he was reckless and crazy he would have just killed arvo.
There are so many threats like these... I wish people could do a search before they make a new threat. This one actually has a pretty good analysis of the whole fighting scene.
I said the group was against heading to wellington. I didn't say they had a problem with heading north. Plus at the time when the agreed to go North they only did so because Carver had found them. Luke had a hole in his leg so I understand why he was argumentative. Plus he did not like Kenny from the get go. On top of that he suggested that they should stay back at that building where the deck collapsed so Rebecca's body could recover. I'm sure Luke felt that Kenny was partially responsible for her death because he insisted that they get going.....THE NEXT DAY. I mean seriously he would not have done that to Kat or that other woman he was dating. The other three had a problem with Kenny because to them he seemed a bit controlling. They were under the rule of someone, prior to Kenny, who was also controlling -cough- carver -cough-.
Also you mean to tell me that beating up a crippled kid isn't reckless and crazy? Kenny threaten to kill him for why? Arvo was not a threat. They could have simply just left him. That's what I would've done.
you know that was your choice to leave the next day, i stayed for a few days to "help" rebecca recover.
also i did say kenny went to far beating arvo, look up a bit ^^
I missed that. Yeah I know it was my choice. I never said I choice to leave the next day though. My problem is the fact that Kenny would consider something like that.
well, they had no food and the weather was just turning bad, in reality three days into snowy weather would be worse then one night into snowy weather, even though the game didn't show if for budget and time purposes, there would be real consequences to waiting three days with no food in a snow storm, in reality moving off the next day would have avoided a lot of bad weather and they would have had more energy and not be starving, but because the game wanted an identical arvo and the russians scene there was no difference.
my first playthrough i thought (for a moment) it was my fault the weather was so bad and rebecca died because she had no food, but then i realised they wouldn't make things that different.
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