When lee told that he was a murderer carley said that maybe in this situation its a advantage.
And i respond to you because i can , its not zykelator.com its telltale.com and you don't own this forum so shut it... people think you are ignorant and only want everyone to see it like you do.
And in what way did kenny get the group in trouble then ? The walkie talkie thing they did to escape, that was a positive thing and kenny was the one who got hurt , so whats your point.
And waht about jane she wanted to lose every woman in the group and kill the closest thing clem had of a dad
Why are you trying to Change the subject of this conversation?
How exactly is it an advantage to have someone in your group, who keeps ge… moretting your group members killed/murdered and puts everyone in danger?
If you cant debate properly and throw insults in every comment, just stay away from me.
And how would you respond if you didn;t eat for almost a week (only a bun) and then there is a steaming meal on the table and then you had to abandon your first "normal" meal that you had in months and walk in on a abandoned car full of food.
You know you would eat it right out of the bag,you're just a "my way is the only way"guy unfortunatly
And lily was mourning and angry/sad so of course she didn't speak much
Watch the scene again. Only Katjaa and Kenny claim its abandoned. Carley/dough remains silent and Lee can decide if he wants to steal or not… more. Ben, Lilly, Duck and Clementine are not so sure about stealing.
I blame Kenny for things he actually is guilty of. Thats the whole point of how i behave. Try to be as objective as possible. There are too many double standards and hypocrites in this forum, thus the reason people disagree with me all the time. (and some just cant see things from my pov and treat me as sociopath)
Actually, that's not at all what he was saying. He said the kid's a liability, which he is. Being a liability does not necessarily mean you … moreabsolutely must leave the person behind to die, it just means something (or someone) disadvantageous, and in this case, disadvantageous to survival. And yes, all of those things would make you a liability. Leaving said person behind to die would thus be advantageous to survival, but morally incorrect.
Why are you trying to Change the subject of this conversation?
How exactly is it an advantage to have someone in your group, who keeps ge… moretting your group members killed/murdered and puts everyone in danger?
If you cant debate properly and throw insults in every comment, just stay away from me.
people think you are ignorant and only want everyone to see it like you do
No, i want people to stop being hypocritical, biased idiots with double standards.
The walkie talkie thing they did to escape, that was a positive thing and kenny was the one who got hurt , so whats your point.
Kenny forces Clementine to take it, thus putting her in danger.
And waht about jane she wanted to lose every woman in the group and kill the closest thing clem had of a dad
She wanted Clem to not die with them. Rebecca was pregnant and the baby would put Clementine at risk. Sarah was just too childish and weak in mind to survive in za. She didnt want Clementine to die for sake of "humanity".
Kenny wasnt like a dad to my Clem. If anything, more like drunk & violent stepfather, who abused her.
When lee told that he was a murderer carley said that maybe in this situation its a advantage.
And i respond to you because i can , its not… more zykelator.com its telltale.com and you don't own this forum so shut it... people think you are ignorant and only want everyone to see it like you do.
And in what way did kenny get the group in trouble then ? The walkie talkie thing they did to escape, that was a positive thing and kenny was the one who got hurt , so whats your point.
And waht about jane she wanted to lose every woman in the group and kill the closest thing clem had of a dad
Again, im not saying i wouldnt have done the same as Kenny did. Im just annoyed at how people treat these situations differently, because they are hypocrites.
And how would you respond if you didn;t eat for almost a week (only a bun) and then there is a steaming meal on the table and then you had t… moreo abandon your first "normal" meal that you had in months and walk in on a abandoned car full of food.
You know you would eat it right out of the bag,you're just a "my way is the only way"guy unfortunatly
And lily was mourning and angry/sad so of course she didn't speak much
Again, im not saying i wouldnt have done the same as Kenny did. Im just annoyed at how people treat these situations differently, because they are hypocrites.
Kenny forces Clementine to take it, thus putting her in danger.
And didn't he take the full blame for it ? Yes he did he may even have lost his sight on 1 side Clem didn't hazve to get hurt but then Sarita took the hit
She wanted Clem to not die with them. Rebecca was pregnant and the baby would put Clementine at risk. Sarah was just too childish and weak in mind to survive in za. She didnt want Clementine to die for sake of "humanity".
Kenny wasnt like a dad to my Clem. If anything, more like drunk & violent stepfather, who abused her.
And i think jane only wanted the easy way , and i don't care what your stepdad did that doesn't make kenny like him
people think you are ignorant and only want everyone to see it like you do
No, i want people to stop being hypocritical, biased idio… morets with double standards.
The walkie talkie thing they did to escape, that was a positive thing and kenny was the one who got hurt , so whats your point.
Kenny forces Clementine to take it, thus putting her in danger.
And waht about jane she wanted to lose every woman in the group and kill the closest thing clem had of a dad
She wanted Clem to not die with them. Rebecca was pregnant and the baby would put Clementine at risk. Sarah was just too childish and weak in mind to survive in za. She didnt want Clementine to die for sake of "humanity".
Kenny wasnt like a dad to my Clem. If anything, more like drunk & violent stepfather, who abused her.
Why are you trying to Change the subject of this conversation?
How exactly is it an advantage to have someone in your group, who keeps ge… moretting your group members killed/murdered and puts everyone in danger?
If you cant debate properly and throw insults in every comment, just stay away from me.
And didn't he take the full blame for it ? Yes he did he may even have lost his sight on 1 side Clem didn't hazve to get hurt but then Sarita took the hit
The point was the he put Clementine in danger. If the situation didnt allow Kenny to take the walkie talkie, Clementine would have been fucked up.
And i think jane only wanted the easy way , and i don't care what your stepdad did that doesn't make kenny like him
The point was, Kenny wont be closest person to Clementine, if you choose to do so. In my game, Clementine didnt consider Kenny as "dad", he was Carver 2.0 to my Clem.
If you wont stop with your childish troll comments, i will just ignore you.
Kenny forces Clementine to take it, thus putting her in danger.
And didn't he take the full blame for it ? Yes he did he may even ha… moreve lost his sight on 1 side Clem didn't hazve to get hurt but then Sarita took the hit
She wanted Clem to not die with them. Rebecca was pregnant and the baby would put Clementine at risk. Sarah was just too childish and weak in mind to survive in za. She didnt want Clementine to die for sake of "humanity".
Kenny wasnt like a dad to my Clem. If anything, more like drunk & violent stepfather, who abused her.
And i think jane only wanted the easy way , and i don't care what your stepdad did that doesn't make kenny like him
I blame Katjaa also. Everyone else was sceptical about the owners fate, Kenny and Kat were the ones that said its abandoned. Play the game before you debate. Your ignorance is starting to be annoying.
And didn't he take the full blame for it ? Yes he did he may even have lost his sight on 1 side Clem didn't hazve to get hurt but then Sarit… morea took the hit
The point was the he put Clementine in danger. If the situation didnt allow Kenny to take the walkie talkie, Clementine would have been fucked up.
And i think jane only wanted the easy way , and i don't care what your stepdad did that doesn't make kenny like him
The point was, Kenny wont be closest person to Clementine, if you choose to do so. In my game, Clementine didnt consider Kenny as "dad", he was Carver 2.0 to my Clem.
If you wont stop with your childish troll comments, i will just ignore you.
Something really funny before I clicked to view this thread was that I thought it said "Clementine's New Package", and baggage refer to the same thing, and I really thought this thread was going to be about Clem getting older and growing in some new parts. Lol
Selflessness is what sets me apart from the bandits, from Arvo's group, from Mike and Bonnie, and from Jane (arguably). It sets me apart from Carver, Vernon, the St. Johns, and Larry.
If I leave that baby, what good am I? Even if it was for my own life, what good am I? What good am I alive? Lee and I have been through so much, fighting against what we thought was "bad". Turns out, half the people here are worse than bad; they are willing to give up a defenseless baby/toddler for their own life. I refuse to be a part of it. My Clem will do everything in her power to protect AJ, even if it means giving her own life, because Clementine is worth more dying like Lee did for her than living with AJ's blood on her hands.
What good is Lee's sacrifice for Clementine if Clementine becomes a selfish monster? You owe it to Lee, damn it! Lee Everett sacrificed HIS life for YOU, and this is how you repay him? That baby was Alvin's and Rebecca's, but since they are dead the group vowed to take the baby, and they are dead. AJ is YOUR responsibility now. Too many people died for AJ, to let him live, just for you to throw his life away like it was yours to give in the first place. Should be ashamed for even suggesting such a thing.
Well ill be on another thread just dont fight anyone i dont like to see you guys fight over nonsense when everyone has there own opinions we cant force to change their perspective on things
Well then you should join the #fuckarvo, and #vernonbonnieandmike. Why would you say they aren't real? I didn't say that! Ok fine you caught me. What I really mean is that if you want people to stick to what their lives were given for (like Lee giving up his life for Clem), then you should want to give Mike, Bonnie, and Arvo a crooked- crooked man ending for wanting to leave everyone INCLUDING A.J.
But just for the hell of it, just saying this 'cause of what the crowd is going with: In season 3, A.J. should be an item in the inventory so that in case Clem is ambushed by walkers, the just "SELECT", and then choose A.J., then select "YES" to the "ARE YOU SURE YOU SICK FUCKING PSYCHOPATH?"
I'd rather die than be a babykiller.
Selflessness is what sets me apart from the bandits, from Arvo's group, from Mike and Bonnie, and fr… moreom Jane (arguably). It sets me apart from Carver, Vernon, the St. Johns, and Larry.
If I leave that baby, what good am I? Even if it was for my own life, what good am I? What good am I alive? Lee and I have been through so much, fighting against what we thought was "bad". Turns out, half the people here are worse than bad; they are willing to give up a defenseless baby/toddler for their own life. I refuse to be a part of it. My Clem will do everything in her power to protect AJ, even if it means giving her own life, because Clementine is worth more dying like Lee did for her than living with AJ's blood on her hands.
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The difference however is that Clementine is a smart kid who could communicate and help out, which she did on occasion. The baby however, can't because well... he's a baby. He doesn't know what's going on, and it'll take a long time for him to be able to do such things. Thus, making him seem like extra weight on Clem.
What Luke made the same excuse with Clem? "I'm not going to risk dying for a kid!" Maybe you all should start taking lessons from Luke, because obviously none of you have the moral sense to put someone's life above your own, which is exactly what people like Lee and Luke did, which is what made them great, and what makes them stand out from everyone else. You all talk about how great of a person Lee was, yet don't even try to strive to walk in his footsteps!
What if Lee said, "Well, I'm not going out there and risking my life for a little kid!"
So, according to people here: they don't want to leave Clem behind, but they are willing to leave AJ behind... it makes no sense. AJ isn't some kid, he is your family now.
So tell me: if Lee and Luke can risk their life for Clementine, what makes it justified to leave AJ to the dogs?
The whole world is in danger so whats your point. maybe the sims is the better game for you?
Crying that someone is in danger in a zombie-apocalypse game.... LOL
The thing(walkie talkie) that got them in "danger" got them out
And you've played the game once, you only saw one ending.
So in your world, but that doesn't make your pov the only correct one.
And if you think it still is than you could keep it to yourself? Because like i said ealier i don't give a ratts ass how you played it but you keep on blabbering and acting like a smartass which you are not, just annoying.
And didn't he take the full blame for it ? Yes he did he may even have lost his sight on 1 side Clem didn't hazve to get hurt but then Sarit… morea took the hit
The point was the he put Clementine in danger. If the situation didnt allow Kenny to take the walkie talkie, Clementine would have been fucked up.
And i think jane only wanted the easy way , and i don't care what your stepdad did that doesn't make kenny like him
The point was, Kenny wont be closest person to Clementine, if you choose to do so. In my game, Clementine didnt consider Kenny as "dad", he was Carver 2.0 to my Clem.
If you wont stop with your childish troll comments, i will just ignore you.
I've played seas 1 like 6 times , and you ? You played seas 2 1 time.
How come everyone that talks to you is wrong and a troll in your eyes.
All the other agreed only clem didn't but katjaa and kenny already said it, and you are just trolling now so we are done talking.
And what do you think of TWD pinball table in zenn pinball 2? i've got it, and TWAU and BTTF, I'm a telltale fan and i don't know what you are doing here besides acting like a smartass
I blame Katjaa also. Everyone else was sceptical about the owners fate, Kenny and Kat were the ones that said its abandoned. Play the game before you debate. Your ignorance is starting to be annoying.
(He has a name, you know)
What Luke made the same excuse with Clem? "I'm not going to risk dying for a kid!" Maybe you all should start… more taking lessons from Luke, because obviously none of you have the moral sense to put someone's life above your own, which is exactly what people like Lee and Luke did, which is what made them great, and what makes them stand out from everyone else. You all talk about how great of a person Lee was, yet don't even try to strive to walk in his footsteps!
What if Lee said, "Well, I'm not going out there and risking my life for a little kid!"
So, according to people here: they don't want to leave Clem behind, but they are willing to leave AJ behind... it makes no sense. AJ isn't some kid, he is your family now.
So tell me: if Lee and Luke can risk their life for Clementine, what makes it justified to leave AJ to the dogs?
The whole world is in danger so whats your point. maybe the sims is the better game for you? Crying that someone is in danger in a zombie-apocalypse game
And my point was that i wouldnt let people stay around, who keep putting me in danger.
LOL The thing(walkie talkie) that got them in "danger" got them out
No it didnt? Luke was caught and they had to improvise by luring the walkers there.
you've played the game once
I've played 2nd season through 5 times, same ending every time.
The whole world is in danger so whats your point. maybe the sims is the better game for you?
Crying that someone is in danger in a zombie-a… morepocalypse game.... LOL
The thing(walkie talkie) that got them in "danger" got them out
And you've played the game once, you only saw one ending.
So in your world, but that doesn't make your pov the only correct one.
And if you think it still is than you could keep it to yourself? Because like i said ealier i don't give a ratts ass how you played it but you keep on blabbering and acting like a smartass which you are not, just annoying.
I've played seas 1 like 6 times , and you ? You played seas 2 1 time.
How come everyone that talks to you is wrong and a troll in your eyes… more.
All the other agreed only clem didn't but katjaa and kenny already said it, and you are just trolling now so we are done talking.
And what do you think of TWD pinball table in zenn pinball 2? i've got it, and TWAU and BTTF, I'm a telltale fan and i don't know what you are doing here besides acting like a smartass
then you should stop yourself with your kenny who wants to survive and you think everything is his fault logics.
I played seas1 just as m,uch as you have so and seas 2 now 4 times and you still are acting like a smartass.
You defend a stranger who decapitated his wife and keeps her head in a bowlingbag and still talks to it.
So your pov is crooked and a lot of people on this forum have tried to reason with you but like some have said , talking to you is like trying to break a stone with eggs.
And you are so pro jane that you are just as much biased if not more , a lot of the time you forget its about survival and leaving the cardoor open in rebel country (remember the FUCK YOU BANG FUCK YOU BLAM rebel who emptied his gun on a colleague)with the keys in it made it seem that those people had to run and wouldn't come back. So leaving that food there to rott was a option but not a good one.
Personally i've seen all the endings in my game you admitted you only saw one and still ,going with kenny who wouldn't hurt clem in any way on purpose was the best ending in my POV and you cabn keep on going that its wrong but its still my POV and there is nothing yoiu can change about that
But its not your point of view so where is the block this user option?
Ben said "look, we dont know if these people are dead"
Lilly said "If they come back, then we're just monsters who came out of the woods … moreand ruined their lives"
Clementine said "this stuff isnt ours" "What if it's not abandoned, what if it IS someones?
Duck said "dad, whose car is it?"
( determinate) Lee "you're right, we shouldnt take this"
And Kenny eventually says "the rest of us are taking this stuff" without even taking into account everyone elses opinion.
Katjaa and Kenny are the ones who made the final call to steal.
ps. played season 1 7 times, last 2 episodes even more.
Im here to stop this biased, hypocritical group with double standards, who defend Kenny/Clementine and see everyone else as immoral, evil pricks.
My question to you is this: What if it's not a random baby? What if it's blood related to you? Would you still abandon a baby even if it's a part of your family? Would you leave your infant relative to death just to save your own sorry ass?
I read your responses here and it makes me wonder.
then you should stop yourself with your kenny who wants to survive and you think everything is his fault logics. I played seas1 just as m,uch as you have so and seas 2 now 4 times and you still are acting like a smartass.
People treat Kenny and Bonnie & Mike actions differently because they like Kenny, this is biased and hypocritical behaviour. I dont blame Kenny for stealing the supplies, i would have done the same. That still doesnt change the fact that it caused others to die and it was "wrong" thing to do (not that i care). If Mike was protagonist and i would have to seperate from violent and stubborn man, i would do exactly the same thing he did in the game. Steal everything and get the fuck away with a car.
You defend a stranger who decapitated his wife and keeps her head in a bowlingbag and still talks to it.
His actions are understandble, he is insane. No point to blame him for being insane, but i wouldnt want to be around crazy people.
And you are so pro jane that you are just as much biased if not more
I dont care that much about Jane, i care about the world view she represents in game, because it is pretty much the same as i have. If and when Jane does something stupid, of course im going to blame her, thats the whole point of being objective.
then you should stop yourself with your kenny who wants to survive and you think everything is his fault logics.
I played seas1 just as m,u… morech as you have so and seas 2 now 4 times and you still are acting like a smartass.
You defend a stranger who decapitated his wife and keeps her head in a bowlingbag and still talks to it.
So your pov is crooked and a lot of people on this forum have tried to reason with you but like some have said , talking to you is like trying to break a stone with eggs.
And you are so pro jane that you are just as much biased if not more , a lot of the time you forget its about survival and leaving the cardoor open in rebel country (remember the FUCK YOU BANG FUCK YOU BLAM rebel who emptied his gun on a colleague)with the keys in it made it seem that those people had to run and wouldn't come back. So leaving that food there to rott was a option but not a good one.
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"blood related to you" cant see how this makes any difference. It doesnt matter if its random baby or random adult, if i dont care about them, it doesnt matter to me if they die.
My question to you is this: What if it's not a random baby? What if it's blood related to you? Would you still abandon a baby even if it's a… more part of your family? Would you leave your infant relative to death just to save your own sorry ass?
I read your responses here and it makes me wonder.
So trying to kill someone who has a different opinion what jane did by setting him up with a lie wasn't wrong was what you were saying all the time
You don't care that much about jane... are you trolling because its all jane this and that with you and its all wrong what everyone else is saying attitude of yours is what makes everyone sick because your POV may be a good one but then why can't you accept other peoples pov and respect their opinion ? i mean 1300 comments in a month maybe you should play more games
then you should stop yourself with your kenny who wants to survive and you think everything is his fault logics. I played seas1 just as m,uc… moreh as you have so and seas 2 now 4 times and you still are acting like a smartass.
People treat Kenny and Bonnie & Mike actions differently because they like Kenny, this is biased and hypocritical behaviour. I dont blame Kenny for stealing the supplies, i would have done the same. That still doesnt change the fact that it caused others to die and it was "wrong" thing to do (not that i care). If Mike was protagonist and i would have to seperate from violent and stubborn man, i would do exactly the same thing he did in the game. Steal everything and get the fuck away with a car.
You defend a stranger who decapitated his wife and keeps her head in a bowlingbag and still talks to it.
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There's a difference between random and someone you know. I'm saying what if it's family member, like you're neice or whatever? That's what I'm talking about here. If you say "I don't care if it dies" about that too, well then...
"blood related to you" cant see how this makes any difference. It doesnt matter if its random baby or random adult, if i dont care about them, it doesnt matter to me if they die.
So trying to kill someone who has a different opinion what jane did by setting him up with a lie wasn't wrong was what you were saying all the time
First of all, you can speculate all you want about Jane wanting to kill Kenny on purpose right from start, but as far as i see it, Jane simply wanted to leave Kenny behind and i dont see that as wrong thing to do. If she actually wanted to kill Kenny, then i wouldnt be that much on her side, since i prefer leaving people behind who are dangerous to your group, instead of killing them. The plan was stupid, but it got the job done. Jane saw it as necessary thing to do and i cant blame her, considering how stubborn Clementine was with keeping Kenny with her, simply because they had history.
what everyone else is saying attitude of yours is what makes everyone sick because your POV may be a good one but then why can't you accept other peoples pov and respect their opinion ? i mean 1300 comments in a month maybe you should play more games
I do understand others pov, i just cant tolerate all the shit and false information they say.
i mean 1300 comments in a month maybe you should play more games
I play games a lot. Dont you worry about my time management.
So trying to kill someone who has a different opinion what jane did by setting him up with a lie wasn't wrong was what you were saying all t… morehe time
You don't care that much about jane... are you trolling because its all jane this and that with you and its all wrong what everyone else is saying attitude of yours is what makes everyone sick because your POV may be a good one but then why can't you accept other peoples pov and respect their opinion ? i mean 1300 comments in a month maybe you should play more games
There's a difference between random and someone you know. I'm saying what if it's family member, like you're neice or whatever? That's what I'm talking about here. If you say "I don't care if it dies" about that too, well then...
There's nothing that pisses me off more than selfish jerks who doesn't even try to help others and only thinks for themselves. You said you have no faith in humanity. The truth is you also have no faith in yourself. You hate the cruelty of the world right? Then what are you doing? You're acting the same way. You've become what made you lose faith in the first place. When the world I knew was actually shitty, I didn't let it take me down. I wanted to do as much as I can to make things better. Putting no effort into will just make it worse.
You say it's survival, but what are you surviving for? Yourself? All you do is just kill others and abandon folks just so you yourself can live just live longer. All you're doing is prolonging the inevitable. Surviving means to make sure something continues by doing something, not to just die out by sitting in a corner. Babies are the purpose of surviving, they're what continues the life cycle. If you just watch out for yourself then there's no real point in surviving. So ask yourself: Why are trying to survive if there's no meaning to do so? You think about that. You think about that while I do what needs to be done. I'm done here cuz I said everything I needed to.
I didn't say from the start but at the end of ep 5 she announced to clem to stay out of it (killing AJ, a lie)
How can you play games a lot if you are here all the time?
Its not false info just like you ranting on about the endings while you only have seen 1 ending....
So trying to kill someone who has a different opinion what jane did by setting him up with a lie wasn't wrong was what you were saying all t… morehe time
First of all, you can speculate all you want about Jane wanting to kill Kenny on purpose right from start, but as far as i see it, Jane simply wanted to leave Kenny behind and i dont see that as wrong thing to do. If she actually wanted to kill Kenny, then i wouldnt be that much on her side, since i prefer leaving people behind who are dangerous to your group, instead of killing them. The plan was stupid, but it got the job done. Jane saw it as necessary thing to do and i cant blame her, considering how stubborn Clementine was with keeping Kenny with her, simply because they had history.
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There's nothing that pisses me off more than selfish jerks who doesn't even try to help others and only thinks for themselves.
I never stated i wouldnt look after people i care about, just not babies.
You said you have no faith in humanity. The truth is you also have no faith in yourself.
Well i dont really care about life so yeah.
You hate the cruelty of the world right? Then what are you doing?
Unnecessary cruelty is what i hate.
You say it's survival, but what are you surviving for? Yourself? All you do is just kill others and abandon folks just so you yourself can live just live longer.
Well obviously i would want to keep around 1 or 2 people i care about. Life is meaningless so there is no point to live if you cant enjoy it with friends.
All you're doing is prolonging the inevitable.
Thats what everyone is doing. Eventually everyone will die and lose all the memories and experiences they have collected on the way.
Babies are the purpose of surviving, they're what continues the life cycle.
I have stated before (not in this discussion) that places like Wellington should take care of that, since its very unrealistic goal to keep yourself & baby alive outside.
Why are trying to survive if there's no meaning to do so?
Yes, i have thought this through and i came to conclusion that life has no purpose or meaning, thus i have to decide how much things have meaning to me.
There's nothing that pisses me off more than selfish jerks who doesn't even try to help others and only thinks for themselves. You said you … morehave no faith in humanity. The truth is you also have no faith in yourself. You hate the cruelty of the world right? Then what are you doing? You're acting the same way. You've become what made you lose faith in the first place. When the world I knew was actually shitty, I didn't let it take me down. I wanted to do as much as I can to make things better. Putting no effort into will just make it worse.
You say it's survival, but what are you surviving for? Yourself? All you do is just kill others and abandon folks just so you yourself can live just live longer. All you're doing is prolonging the inevitable. Surviving means to make sure something continues by doing something, not to just die out by sitting in a corner. Babies are the purpose of surviving, they're what continues the life cycle. If you jus… [view original content]
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When lee told that he was a murderer carley said that maybe in this situation its a advantage.
And i respond to you because i can , its not zykelator.com its telltale.com and you don't own this forum so shut it... people think you are ignorant and only want everyone to see it like you do.
And in what way did kenny get the group in trouble then ? The walkie talkie thing they did to escape, that was a positive thing and kenny was the one who got hurt , so whats your point.
And waht about jane she wanted to lose every woman in the group and kill the closest thing clem had of a dad
And how would you respond if you didn;t eat for almost a week (only a bun) and then there is a steaming meal on the table and then you had to abandon your first "normal" meal that you had in months and walk in on a abandoned car full of food.
You know you would eat it right out of the bag,you're just a "my way is the only way"guy unfortunatly
And lily was mourning and angry/sad so of course she didn't speak much
The baby is a very possible detriment to Clem's survival.
So if given the choice, then it's "bye-bye baby."
Yes in that way he is, but then clem was a liability in season 1 which we almost all liked
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No, i want people to stop being hypocritical, biased idiots with double standards.
Kenny forces Clementine to take it, thus putting her in danger.
She wanted Clem to not die with them. Rebecca was pregnant and the baby would put Clementine at risk. Sarah was just too childish and weak in mind to survive in za. She didnt want Clementine to die for sake of "humanity".
Kenny wasnt like a dad to my Clem. If anything, more like drunk & violent stepfather, who abused her.
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Again, im not saying i wouldnt have done the same as Kenny did. Im just annoyed at how people treat these situations differently, because they are hypocrites.
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everyone walked out with the supplies only clem didn't think it was a good idea. And you just keep on blaming kenny
And didn't he take the full blame for it ? Yes he did he may even have lost his sight on 1 side Clem didn't hazve to get hurt but then Sarita took the hit
Kenny wasnt like a dad to my Clem. If anything, more like drunk & violent stepfather, who abused her.
And i think jane only wanted the easy way , and i don't care what your stepdad did that doesn't make kenny like him
I wasn't changing anything I was just answering you... and i guess you just can't stand it
The point was the he put Clementine in danger. If the situation didnt allow Kenny to take the walkie talkie, Clementine would have been fucked up.
The point was, Kenny wont be closest person to Clementine, if you choose to do so. In my game, Clementine didnt consider Kenny as "dad", he was Carver 2.0 to my Clem.
If you wont stop with your childish troll comments, i will just ignore you.
I blame Katjaa also. Everyone else was sceptical about the owners fate, Kenny and Kat were the ones that said its abandoned. Play the game before you debate. Your ignorance is starting to be annoying.
Guys, please behave and chill out with the arguments. Thanks in advance.
Fuck yes?
Something really funny before I clicked to view this thread was that I thought it said "Clementine's New Package", and baggage refer to the same thing, and I really thought this thread was going to be about Clem getting older and growing in some new parts. Lol
I'd rather die than be a babykiller.
Selflessness is what sets me apart from the bandits, from Arvo's group, from Mike and Bonnie, and from Jane (arguably). It sets me apart from Carver, Vernon, the St. Johns, and Larry.
If I leave that baby, what good am I? Even if it was for my own life, what good am I? What good am I alive? Lee and I have been through so much, fighting against what we thought was "bad". Turns out, half the people here are worse than bad; they are willing to give up a defenseless baby/toddler for their own life. I refuse to be a part of it. My Clem will do everything in her power to protect AJ, even if it means giving her own life, because Clementine is worth more dying like Lee did for her than living with AJ's blood on her hands.
What good is Lee's sacrifice for Clementine if Clementine becomes a selfish monster? You owe it to Lee, damn it! Lee Everett sacrificed HIS life for YOU, and this is how you repay him? That baby was Alvin's and Rebecca's, but since they are dead the group vowed to take the baby, and they are dead. AJ is YOUR responsibility now. Too many people died for AJ, to let him live, just for you to throw his life away like it was yours to give in the first place. Should be ashamed for even suggesting such a thing.
Well ill be on another thread just dont fight anyone i dont like to see you guys fight over nonsense when everyone has there own opinions we cant force to change their perspective on things
Well then you should join the #fuckarvo, and #vernonbonnieandmike. Why would you say they aren't real? I didn't say that! Ok fine you caught me. What I really mean is that if you want people to stick to what their lives were given for (like Lee giving up his life for Clem), then you should want to give Mike, Bonnie, and Arvo a crooked- crooked man ending for wanting to leave everyone INCLUDING A.J.
But just for the hell of it, just saying this 'cause of what the crowd is going with: In season 3, A.J. should be an item in the inventory so that in case Clem is ambushed by walkers, the just "SELECT", and then choose A.J., then select "YES" to the "ARE YOU SURE YOU SICK FUCKING PSYCHOPATH?"
Then let the whining be over with.
You have to make it there first. Too risky for me, especially when she didn't even know Wellington existed.
They're no more ridiculous than the anti-Kenny fans.
The difference however is that Clementine is a smart kid who could communicate and help out, which she did on occasion. The baby however, can't because well... he's a baby. He doesn't know what's going on, and it'll take a long time for him to be able to do such things. Thus, making him seem like extra weight on Clem.
(He has a name, you know)
What Luke made the same excuse with Clem? "I'm not going to risk dying for a kid!" Maybe you all should start taking lessons from Luke, because obviously none of you have the moral sense to put someone's life above your own, which is exactly what people like Lee and Luke did, which is what made them great, and what makes them stand out from everyone else. You all talk about how great of a person Lee was, yet don't even try to strive to walk in his footsteps!
What if Lee said, "Well, I'm not going out there and risking my life for a little kid!"
So, according to people here: they don't want to leave Clem behind, but they are willing to leave AJ behind... it makes no sense. AJ isn't some kid, he is your family now.
So tell me: if Lee and Luke can risk their life for Clementine, what makes it justified to leave AJ to the dogs?
The whole world is in danger so whats your point. maybe the sims is the better game for you?
Crying that someone is in danger in a zombie-apocalypse game.... LOL
The thing(walkie talkie) that got them in "danger" got them out
And you've played the game once, you only saw one ending.
So in your world, but that doesn't make your pov the only correct one.
And if you think it still is than you could keep it to yourself? Because like i said ealier i don't give a ratts ass how you played it but you keep on blabbering and acting like a smartass which you are not, just annoying.
I've played seas 1 like 6 times , and you ? You played seas 2 1 time.
How come everyone that talks to you is wrong and a troll in your eyes.
All the other agreed only clem didn't but katjaa and kenny already said it, and you are just trolling now so we are done talking.
And what do you think of TWD pinball table in zenn pinball 2? i've got it, and TWAU and BTTF, I'm a telltale fan and i don't know what you are doing here besides acting like a smartass
Some people just won't understand. Leave him be, man.
And my point was that i wouldnt let people stay around, who keep putting me in danger.
No it didnt? Luke was caught and they had to improvise by luring the walkers there.
I've played 2nd season through 5 times, same ending every time.
Again, keep your childish insults to yourself.
Ben said "look, we dont know if these people are dead"
Lilly said "If they come back, then we're just monsters who came out of the woods and ruined their lives"
Clementine said "this stuff isnt ours" "What if it's not abandoned, what if it IS someones?
Duck said "dad, whose car is it?"
( determinate) Lee "you're right, we shouldnt take this"
And Kenny eventually says "the rest of us are taking this stuff" without even taking into account everyone elses opinion.
Katjaa and Kenny are the ones who made the final call to steal.
ps. played season 1 7 times, last 2 episodes even more.
Im here to stop this biased, hypocritical group with double standards, who defend Kenny/Clementine and see everyone else as immoral, evil pricks.
then you should stop yourself with your kenny who wants to survive and you think everything is his fault logics.
I played seas1 just as m,uch as you have so and seas 2 now 4 times and you still are acting like a smartass.
You defend a stranger who decapitated his wife and keeps her head in a bowlingbag and still talks to it.
So your pov is crooked and a lot of people on this forum have tried to reason with you but like some have said , talking to you is like trying to break a stone with eggs.
And you are so pro jane that you are just as much biased if not more , a lot of the time you forget its about survival and leaving the cardoor open in rebel country (remember the FUCK YOU BANG FUCK YOU BLAM rebel who emptied his gun on a colleague)with the keys in it made it seem that those people had to run and wouldn't come back. So leaving that food there to rott was a option but not a good one.
Personally i've seen all the endings in my game you admitted you only saw one and still ,going with kenny who wouldn't hurt clem in any way on purpose was the best ending in my POV and you cabn keep on going that its wrong but its still my POV and there is nothing yoiu can change about that
But its not your point of view so where is the block this user option?
My question to you is this: What if it's not a random baby? What if it's blood related to you? Would you still abandon a baby even if it's a part of your family? Would you leave your infant relative to death just to save your own sorry ass?
I read your responses here and it makes me wonder.
People treat Kenny and Bonnie & Mike actions differently because they like Kenny, this is biased and hypocritical behaviour. I dont blame Kenny for stealing the supplies, i would have done the same. That still doesnt change the fact that it caused others to die and it was "wrong" thing to do (not that i care). If Mike was protagonist and i would have to seperate from violent and stubborn man, i would do exactly the same thing he did in the game. Steal everything and get the fuck away with a car.
His actions are understandble, he is insane. No point to blame him for being insane, but i wouldnt want to be around crazy people.
I dont care that much about Jane, i care about the world view she represents in game, because it is pretty much the same as i have. If and when Jane does something stupid, of course im going to blame her, thats the whole point of being objective.
"blood related to you" cant see how this makes any difference. It doesnt matter if its random baby or random adult, if i dont care about them, it doesnt matter to me if they die.
So trying to kill someone who has a different opinion what jane did by setting him up with a lie wasn't wrong was what you were saying all the time
You don't care that much about jane... are you trolling because its all jane this and that with you and its all wrong what everyone else is saying attitude of yours is what makes everyone sick because your POV may be a good one but then why can't you accept other peoples pov and respect their opinion ? i mean 1300 comments in a month maybe you should play more games
There's a difference between random and someone you know. I'm saying what if it's family member, like you're neice or whatever? That's what I'm talking about here. If you say "I don't care if it dies" about that too, well then...
First of all, you can speculate all you want about Jane wanting to kill Kenny on purpose right from start, but as far as i see it, Jane simply wanted to leave Kenny behind and i dont see that as wrong thing to do. If she actually wanted to kill Kenny, then i wouldnt be that much on her side, since i prefer leaving people behind who are dangerous to your group, instead of killing them. The plan was stupid, but it got the job done. Jane saw it as necessary thing to do and i cant blame her, considering how stubborn Clementine was with keeping Kenny with her, simply because they had history.
I do understand others pov, i just cant tolerate all the shit and false information they say.
I play games a lot. Dont you worry about my time management.
I cant know a baby, baby doesnt have personality or thoughts it could share. In za, i would never take care of a baby, not matter whose it is.
There's nothing that pisses me off more than selfish jerks who doesn't even try to help others and only thinks for themselves. You said you have no faith in humanity. The truth is you also have no faith in yourself. You hate the cruelty of the world right? Then what are you doing? You're acting the same way. You've become what made you lose faith in the first place. When the world I knew was actually shitty, I didn't let it take me down. I wanted to do as much as I can to make things better. Putting no effort into will just make it worse.
You say it's survival, but what are you surviving for? Yourself? All you do is just kill others and abandon folks just so you yourself can live just live longer. All you're doing is prolonging the inevitable. Surviving means to make sure something continues by doing something, not to just die out by sitting in a corner. Babies are the purpose of surviving, they're what continues the life cycle. If you just watch out for yourself then there's no real point in surviving. So ask yourself: Why are trying to survive if there's no meaning to do so? You think about that. You think about that while I do what needs to be done. I'm done here cuz I said everything I needed to.
I didn't say from the start but at the end of ep 5 she announced to clem to stay out of it (killing AJ, a lie)
How can you play games a lot if you are here all the time?
Its not false info just like you ranting on about the endings while you only have seen 1 ending....
I never stated i wouldnt look after people i care about, just not babies.
Well i dont really care about life so yeah.
Unnecessary cruelty is what i hate.
Well obviously i would want to keep around 1 or 2 people i care about. Life is meaningless so there is no point to live if you cant enjoy it with friends.
Thats what everyone is doing. Eventually everyone will die and lose all the memories and experiences they have collected on the way.
I have stated before (not in this discussion) that places like Wellington should take care of that, since its very unrealistic goal to keep yourself & baby alive outside.
Yes, i have thought this through and i came to conclusion that life has no purpose or meaning, thus i have to decide how much things have meaning to me.