1.if you didn't mean that, edit your thread and carefully choose your words. If you meant something else, blame yourself for not caring about your choice of words.
2.Irrelevant. And episode 4 revolved around Jane. Let me tell you why.
You start off with jane, you talk to her about rebecca. you go back to base. you GO with jane for sarah. you hear her shit sob story.you're forced to bond with jane in the trailer park. you talk to her after the sarah scene. you hear some of her shitty opinions. you go back to the meeting place. you regardless of your choice, end up with jane. you are at the observation deck with jane. you bring the group back to the deck and you find JANE blowing domes. you're forced to chose jane or sarah. You have a scene with jane that's "Big". episode 4 ends.
You saying it wasn't all about her it seriously SENSELESS. This episode was ALL about jane, SERIOUSLY. Why isn't this episode called "Amid the jane?"
3.And there you go, you acknowledge that telltale is shitty and predictable. Yet you excuse it and say "wellll whatever :PPP". And you're telling me that as if i didn't notice. who in the hell said I loved episode 3 in the first place? Are you trying to agree with me?
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* No I'm clearly giving you what I mean yet you block it out like it's poison, you're wrong.
* Fine A House Divided was the best for you?… more Ok that's your opinion and I'm completely fine with that, but don't say episode 4 was all talking to Jane cause it clearly wasn't you could talk to characters more than you could in episode 2 easily.
* I'm saying don't expect godly treatment of Nick in episode 4 because he's determinant (thanks to episode 2) and because he didn't do anything in episode 3 but side with Luke if he even talked at all.
I'm defending my opinion. Is that wrong? I'm not stalking you, this is probably one of my first replies to you.
Really? Respect is like the first rule in the forum guideline, and you could probably get banned for that, not respecting other peoples opinions won't get you much in life. That's like shoving away everyone who disagrees with you, and there will be a lot of people like that. Respect is key to human relationship, if you don't want to respect that then go ahead, I'm not the judge of your life, it will only affect you later on.
And I'm perfectly fine with your opinion, just the way that it is being carried out is inappropriate. Instead of buying the episode, how about you check reviews, or something? I don't know, just be aware of what you are going to buy. Do some research instead of running right into the game into something you don't like.
There is choices. And I like them. You don't. Big deal. Go tell Telltale, it's not like I can do anything about it.
Nice, good to know you hated the episode and thought it was boring. Totally needed to hear you say that again.
I'm doing it around you because you are the one bashing on them. If you think they are shitty, then why don't you just leave the forums altogether, they're all made by Telltale, and by your logic they are or all will be shitty.
I'm irrelevant? Okay thanks, just disregard everyone else, because you are always right, and always will be, and nothing can change your mind.
Swearing is a sign of anger, and loss of calmness. You need to chill out, because when you swear, it just doesn't sound like you're taking this argument seriously.
Okay goodbye. Thanks for the reply, and I also wonder why you replied to me.
Oh, it's you again. Something that always crosses my mind is that people like who you "dislike" me always reply to me or stalk me basically.… more It's sad, and pretty senseless.
1.I don't have to respect your opinions, I acknowledge it. But I do not respect it, nor do I have to agree. So that pretty much tops that.
2.Yes, it's a game. What do you think I thought it was? Life? Food? No. So you stating that is stupid. Also, it's a game I bought before knowing how shitty it'd be. If i knew how bad 4 would be, I would've never bought it in the first place. it's a game, like you've said. And I'm reviewing it and sharing my opinions and replying to people who are replying to me.
3.Choices are pointless. I'm stating my opinion, never did I ask if you thought they mattered or if YOU cared. You just popped out of no where and saying" om eemmm gee i dun care about these choices Y DOES IT MATTER???" Why does it matter you say? Because this is a choi… [view original content]
I'm sorry if I offended, but I'm tired of putting that in every single post because I'm trying to fight for what I believe is right, so I'm sorry okay? I didn't mean to hurt anybody, I was just stating my opinion, in the least offensive, and insulting way possible.
Don't worry about offending me, i don't have a opinion on this either way. The only thing i took offense to was Green yesterday acting like his opinion was the "right" choice, because in reality people are allowed to make up their own minds of what they like or don't like.
I not trying to hate on you or anything, just try to be a little more reserve. Like earlier in my thread you didn't understand the point of it, and derail it. I didn't respond or argue with you. Its fine.
Really? That isn't how this thread has gone at all, what respect have you or Green showed anyone that disagrees with you? None.
I'm … moresorry if I offended, but I'm tired of putting that in every single post because I'm trying to fight for what I believe is right, so I'm sorry okay? I didn't mean to hurt anybody, I was just stating my opinion, in the least offensive, and insulting way possible.
You do not speak for everyone.
That's why I put I not we bud.
Yeah it has got that way hasn't it. You and your buddy aren't helping matters.
I love the game how it is, and Ellias started this by calling out how bad the episode was. I was just defending my opinion and Green's. We're helping our cause not yours, we like the episode, and you don't so why should we do something about it?
I wasn't trying to derail it, I was having a legitimate argument about your thread and what it really meant. I mean I don't know what I did wrong, I read the thread, put my thoughts down, and then I get hate for it, because I apparently misinterpreted the meaning, even though I tried to answer it as best as possible. I hate myself now, because every time I post, I get in an argument because I have "bad posts" or very unpopular opinions, and I have to defend my self every time .
I'm sorry if I offended, but I'm tired of putting that in every single post because I'm trying to fight for what I believe is right, so I'm … moresorry okay? I didn't mean to hurt anybody, I was just stating my opinion, in the least offensive, and insulting way possible.
Don't worry about offending me, i don't have a opinion on this either way. The only thing i took offense to was Green yesterday acting like his opinion was the "right" choice, because in reality people are allowed to make up their own minds of what they like or don't like.
I not trying to hate on you or anything, just try to be a little more reserve. Like earlier in my thread you didn't understand the point of it, and derail it. I didn't respond or argue with you. Its fine.
I did mean it, stop trying to tell me what I meant because clearly you don't have the intelligence to understand me correctly when I clearly say that I never said what you claim I said, and nowhere in my words can you infer that I said that.
Did you get some special episode 4 that we all didn't get? The hoard scene, Kenny blowing up at you, the tent, Mike and Bonnie's adventures at Parker's Run, talking to Rebecca at least 3 times throughout the episode, Kenny and Luke's argument, Luke talking to Clem by the observation deck, The entire end scene, and the scene after Ken vs Luke at the observation deck talking about what to do next for the baby.
Determinant characters are all treated like this in previous episodes as well, yet you give episode 4 shit for it.
If this is a waste of your time, then why are you even still here? I asked you simply for an answer for the question I made about your baseless accusation yet you give me a fucking novel on all my points and you say I'm wasting your time?
1.if you didn't mean that, edit your thread and carefully choose your words. If you meant something else, blame yourself for not caring abou… moret your choice of words.
2.Irrelevant. And episode 4 revolved around Jane. Let me tell you why.
You start off with jane, you talk to her about rebecca. you go back to base. you GO with jane for sarah. you hear her shit sob story.you're forced to bond with jane in the trailer park. you talk to her after the sarah scene. you hear some of her shitty opinions. you go back to the meeting place. you regardless of your choice, end up with jane. you are at the observation deck with jane. you bring the group back to the deck and you find JANE blowing domes. you're forced to chose jane or sarah. You have a scene with jane that's "Big". episode 4 ends.
You saying it wasn't all about her it seriously SENSELESS. This episode was ALL about jane, SERIOUSLY. Why isn't this episode called "Amid the jane?"
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One thing that i find depressing about this game Is no one tells Clementine that they love her, like when Lee was dying, you think he would have. She probably hasn't heard the words since her parents left for Savannah. Must be pretty tough feeling unloved for three years.
But you did. Why couldn't you understand the point of the thread was to hear the words. I don't know how else to say it as simple as i did. Its fine, don't worry about it. Its just a internet post. Don't go beating yourself up about it.
I wasn't trying to derail it, I was having a legitimate argument about your thread and what it really meant. I mean I don't know what I did … morewrong, I read the thread, put my thoughts down, and then I get hate for it, because I apparently misinterpreted the meaning, even though I tried to answer it as best as possible. I hate myself now, because every time I post, I get in an argument because I have "bad posts" or very unpopular opinions, and I have to defend my self every time .
My comment still related to the topic of love. You said
Must be pretty tough feeling unloved for three years.
I was just confused as to where you got the idea she felt unloved. Just because nobody said it doesn't mean she is unloved, I don't know how that isn't part of the point. It's still based around the words, but I'm trying to say the words don't matter. The characters actions showed their love.
I wasn't trying to derail it,
One thing that i find depressing about this game Is no one tells Clementine that they love her, like wh… moreen Lee was dying, you think he would have. She probably hasn't heard the words since her parents left for Savannah. Must be pretty tough feeling unloved for three years.
But you did. Why couldn't you understand the point of the thread was to hear the words. I don't know how else to say it as simple as i did. Its fine, don't worry about it. Its just a internet post. Don't go beating yourself up about it.
He clearly disrespected me first and you're a fool if you think otherwise, also I'd win an argument with you any day with the amount of bullshit you spew in each of your arguments.
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This episode was bad and you should feel bad for defending it.
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Thanks I really appreci… moreate that bud
Also as you can examine this is the perfect example of being blinded by Nick's and Sarah's death.
Maybe one day you can win a argument with me, but today is not that day.
1."Character's death don't determine if the episode is good or not!!!!" "Character's mean everything and are a huge factor in the game!!!" They don't go together, it's funny how you say I don't have the intelligence to understand it but I make it clear how you're wrong and how your choice of words were poor. Do you even listen to yourself?
2.Holy shit, I am STATING how the episode revolved around Jane mostly. And even after reading all of that, Jane STILL tops it. You're just proving my point even further.
3.Of course they are, but this is the worst out of both of season 1 and 2. it doubles it. So still your point is incorrect.
I give you a novel while you give me nothing. But I can't blame you, you have nothing to give since I'm right regardless lol. It's like you're recycling your replies and throwing it at me. Are you running out of things to say? Because it seems just about it.
* I did mean it, stop trying to tell me what I meant because clearly you don't have the intelligence to understand me correctly when I clear… morely say that I never said what you claim I said, and nowhere in my words can you infer that I said that.
* Did you get some special episode 4 that we all didn't get? The hoard scene, Kenny blowing up at you, the tent, Mike and Bonnie's adventures at Parker's Run, talking to Rebecca at least 3 times throughout the episode, Kenny and Luke's argument, Luke talking to Clem by the observation deck, The entire end scene, and the scene after Ken vs Luke at the observation deck talking about what to do next for the baby.
* Determinant characters are all treated like this in previous episodes as well, yet you give episode 4 shit for it.
If this is a waste of your time, then why are you even still here? I asked you simply for an answer for the question I made about your baseless accusation yet you give me a fucking novel on all my points and you say I'm wasting your time?
I'm recycling replies? You clearly can't find anything else to say except for the same shit you've been saying for the past 20 minutes when on countless times I've proven you wrong either way I'm done here for today, you clearly can't handle anyone's opinion but your own and that shows in your posts too. What a shame.
1."Character's death don't determine if the episode is good or not!!!!" "Character's mean everything and are a huge factor in the game!!!" T… morehey don't go together, it's funny how you say I don't have the intelligence to understand it but I make it clear how you're wrong and how your choice of words were poor. Do you even listen to yourself?
2.Holy shit, I am STATING how the episode revolved around Jane mostly. And even after reading all of that, Jane STILL tops it. You're just proving my point even further.
3.Of course they are, but this is the worst out of both of season 1 and 2. it doubles it. So still your point is incorrect.
I give you a novel while you give me nothing. But I can't blame you, you have nothing to give since I'm right regardless lol. It's like you're recycling your replies and throwing it at me. Are you running out of things to say? Because it seems just about it.
Yeah, like i've said. You literally have nothing to say since that explains why you resorted to that reply lol.
I recycle my replies yet i've written a "Novel" and i've been proving you wrong, and you've even replied to them. And I can take opinions on, I just debunk your assumptions and opinions. Sorry if you were thinking something else. I really am, but that's beyond my control. And if I couldn't handle anybody else opinion, why would I even be replying to you in the first place? shows that I CAN and that I actually thought of something when dealing with your "opinion". Rather what you said literally applies to you since you're "done". Kek, wuuuuutever.
I'm recycling replies? You clearly can't find anything else to say except for the same shit you've been saying for the past 20 minutes when … moreon countless times I've proven you wrong either way I'm done here for today, you clearly can't handle anyone's opinion but your own and that shows in your posts too. What a shame.
The reason i liked this episodes, was that there was finally a character that i could identify with and was interesting. Same reason i liked 4th Episode in first season, we got to meet Molly. The game even gave us chance to do something as cold as leaving Sarah to die, finally letting clem chance to be cold and rational (just the way i like it). This episode alone made me feel like Clem wasnt a little girl anymore, whose decisions didnt sound so stupid, that i would just let the timer run out.
For me, the quality of episodes steadily rose up, after the weak start of "all that remains"
The reason i liked this episodes, was that there was finally a character that i could identify with and was interesting. Same reason i liked… more 4th Episode in first season, we got to meet Molly. The game even gave us chance to do something as cold as leaving Sarah to die, finally letting clem chance to be cold and rational (just the way i like it). This episode alone made me feel like Clem wasnt a little girl anymore, whose decisions didnt sound so stupid, that i would just let the timer run out.
For me, the quality of episodes steadily rose up, after the weak start of "all that remains"
The reason i liked this episodes, was that there was finally a character that i could identify with and was interesting. Same reason i liked… more 4th Episode in first season, we got to meet Molly. The game even gave us chance to do something as cold as leaving Sarah to die, finally letting clem chance to be cold and rational (just the way i like it). This episode alone made me feel like Clem wasnt a little girl anymore, whose decisions didnt sound so stupid, that i would just let the timer run out.
For me, the quality of episodes steadily rose up, after the weak start of "all that remains"
I get that Sarah was destined to die the moment the option came to leave her in the trailer or force her to come. In my opinion, her death there makes sense. While it doesn't conclude it the way I would like, it fits her character arc since as Carlos said, she ceased to function and died as a result of Carlos' sheltering.
Her second death isn't like this at all. First of all, why is she standing out on the deck like that? She isn't even armed (which makes teaching her to shoot in 202 pointless, but that's another story) and no one thought to tell her to go back with Kenny and Rebecca? Anyway, the deck collapses, she falls and gets stuck and is devoured by walkers (regardless or whether Jane tries to save her). To me, that death almost seems like bad luck. Her condition had improved since the trailer and it seemed like with some time, she'd be okay or at least come to terms with Carlos' death. I wasn't expecting her to become a badass survivor, just a somewhat competent one.
Sorry. For me, Amid the Ruins still personifies a lot of what was wrong with season 2. Wasted potential, abrupt character deaths that were handled with complete apathy, and a derailment of the themes that earlier episodes (as well as the entire first season) tried to represent.
The way they axed off characters like Nick and Sarah wasn't just unsatisfying, it felt lazy. Like Telltale had set up too many subplots, and they needed to drop everything to a status quo in order to keep the episodes shorter. This story is only as good as its characters, and when they're cheaply forgotten about it undermines having investment in the first place.
Picking up "we could teach Sarah how to shoot in 202" topic - which people often use to resume the talking about bad character development - I think you guys missing a point. Backtracking a bit, Clementine could only repeat Lee's advice from Long Road Ahead. There isn't any way close to the proper learning, so there's no need to call this "poinless" or "disappointing".
Clementine could only repeat Lee's advice from Long Road Ahead. There isn't any way close to the proper learning, so there's no need to call this "poinless" or "disappointing".
It's a plot element that established Sarah's willingness to learn from Clementine and the possible directions that her development would take. But none of what Clem tells her is referenced again, and her character arc is suddenly dropped from the story despite the prior focus it was building up to in previous episodes.
Why is it odd that there are people who are disappointed about it?
Picking up "we could teach Sarah how to shoot in 202" topic - which people often use to resume the talking about bad character development -… more I think you guys missing a point. Backtracking a bit, Clementine could only repeat Lee's advice from Long Road Ahead. There isn't any way close to the proper learning, so there's no need to call this "poinless" or "disappointing".
I didn't say it was 'odd', just there was no real reason to criticize how Sarah's character was developed. She was written as a sheltered girl representing S1 Clementine (at least I see it that way) and died like Clementine might've died if Lee wouldn't have taught her how to survive.
Clementine could only repeat Lee's advice from Long Road Ahead. There isn't any way close to the proper learning, so there's no need to call… more this "poinless" or "disappointing".
It's a plot element that established Sarah's willingness to learn from Clementine and the possible directions that her development would take. But none of what Clem tells her is referenced again, and her character arc is suddenly dropped from the story despite the prior focus it was building up to in previous episodes.
Why is it odd that there are people who are disappointed about it?
A 'reason' was that her character arc felt incomplete and her death was forced. There were several choices already focused around Sarah's development and the impact that her father's absence would have, but it doesn't lead to anything except a senseless death scene that the group forgets about within a few minutes.
The only character that the situation wanted to develop was Jane, who forces you into this Crawford-styled mindset of the futility of helping those who are struggling.
I didn't say it was 'odd', just there was no real reason to criticize how Sarah's character was developed. She was written as a sheltered gi… morerl representing S1 Clementine (at least I see it that way) and died like Clementine might've died if Lee wouldn't have taught her how to survive.
A 'reason' was that her character arc felt incomplete and her death was forced. There were several choices already focused around Sarah's de… morevelopment and the impact that her father's absence would have, but it doesn't lead to anything except a senseless death scene that the group forgets about within a few minutes.
The only character that the situation wanted to develop was Jane, who forces you into this Crawford-styled mindset of the futility of helping those who are struggling.
I agree! Even though Sarah getting killed off regardless disappointed me, it did not suddenly make me say "I hate 'Amid The Ruins!' And Blah Blah Blah."
Old thread but what the hell. I'll start off by saying that this was the weakest and worst episode of the video game series. I know TWD choices don't have enough significance but this episode made a canon choice with the whole Arvo mess. I felt no control over the plot or other characters. How difficult is it for Arvo to say they took his gun or bag. Petty writing this episode was a mistake. Nick's death was terrible and Sarah was handled worse, either of her deaths felt forced and very anti climatic. I felt the Luke situation was pretty shaky, building him up to be a smart, resourceful leader in the first two episodes only to turn out like Ben. Jane hogged so much screen time, you can tell she was just a poor last second replacement for Luke.
Old thread but what the hell. I'll start off by saying that this was the weakest and worst episode of the video game series. I know TWD choi… moreces don't have enough significance but this episode made a canon choice with the whole Arvo mess. I felt no control over the plot or other characters. How difficult is it for Arvo to say they took his gun or bag. Petty writing this episode was a mistake. Nick's death was terrible and Sarah was handled worse, either of her deaths felt forced and very anti climatic. I felt the Luke situation was pretty shaky, building him up to be a smart, resourceful leader in the first two episodes only to turn out like Ben. Jane hogged so much screen time, you can tell she was just a poor last second replacement for Luke.
Sorry I read it wrong, I see what you mean now. I agree, I don't know why Telltale had him write an episode. I know they had Gary Whitta write an episode last season, but he was involved in the project beforehand, Petty wasn't. It was really a stupid decision.
Sorry I read it wrong, I see what you mean now. I agree, I don't know why Telltale had him write an episode. I know they had Gary Whitta wri… morete an episode last season, but he was involved in the project beforehand, Petty wasn't. It was really a stupid decision.
Kenny acting like his Season 1 self was a good thing? It defies all logic of character development by going backwards. In Amid The Ruins it was pathetic because he blames you for Sarita getting bit. It was forced anger and conflict
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1.if you didn't mean that, edit your thread and carefully choose your words. If you meant something else, blame yourself for not caring about your choice of words.
2.Irrelevant. And episode 4 revolved around Jane. Let me tell you why.
You start off with jane, you talk to her about rebecca. you go back to base. you GO with jane for sarah. you hear her shit sob story.you're forced to bond with jane in the trailer park. you talk to her after the sarah scene. you hear some of her shitty opinions. you go back to the meeting place. you regardless of your choice, end up with jane. you are at the observation deck with jane. you bring the group back to the deck and you find JANE blowing domes. you're forced to chose jane or sarah. You have a scene with jane that's "Big". episode 4 ends.
You saying it wasn't all about her it seriously SENSELESS. This episode was ALL about jane, SERIOUSLY. Why isn't this episode called "Amid the jane?"
3.And there you go, you acknowledge that telltale is shitty and predictable. Yet you excuse it and say "wellll whatever :PPP". And you're telling me that as if i didn't notice. who in the hell said I loved episode 3 in the first place? Are you trying to agree with me?
Please include good points in your next reply. I don't want this to be a waste of time 100%
I'm defending my opinion. Is that wrong? I'm not stalking you, this is probably one of my first replies to you.
Really? Respect is like the first rule in the forum guideline, and you could probably get banned for that, not respecting other peoples opinions won't get you much in life. That's like shoving away everyone who disagrees with you, and there will be a lot of people like that. Respect is key to human relationship, if you don't want to respect that then go ahead, I'm not the judge of your life, it will only affect you later on.
And I'm perfectly fine with your opinion, just the way that it is being carried out is inappropriate. Instead of buying the episode, how about you check reviews, or something? I don't know, just be aware of what you are going to buy. Do some research instead of running right into the game into something you don't like.
There is choices. And I like them. You don't. Big deal. Go tell Telltale, it's not like I can do anything about it.
Nice, good to know you hated the episode and thought it was boring. Totally needed to hear you say that again.
I'm doing it around you because you are the one bashing on them. If you think they are shitty, then why don't you just leave the forums altogether, they're all made by Telltale, and by your logic they are or all will be shitty.
I'm irrelevant? Okay thanks, just disregard everyone else, because you are always right, and always will be, and nothing can change your mind.
Swearing is a sign of anger, and loss of calmness. You need to chill out, because when you swear, it just doesn't sound like you're taking this argument seriously.
Okay goodbye. Thanks for the reply, and I also wonder why you replied to me.
Don't worry about offending me, i don't have a opinion on this either way. The only thing i took offense to was Green yesterday acting like his opinion was the "right" choice, because in reality people are allowed to make up their own minds of what they like or don't like.
I not trying to hate on you or anything, just try to be a little more reserve. Like earlier in my thread you didn't understand the point of it, and derail it. I didn't respond or argue with you. Its fine.
I'm not sensitive, I just thought you were disproving of my post because of age.
I wasn't trying to derail it, I was having a legitimate argument about your thread and what it really meant. I mean I don't know what I did wrong, I read the thread, put my thoughts down, and then I get hate for it, because I apparently misinterpreted the meaning, even though I tried to answer it as best as possible. I hate myself now, because every time I post, I get in an argument because I have "bad posts" or very unpopular opinions, and I have to defend my self every time
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I did mean it, stop trying to tell me what I meant because clearly you don't have the intelligence to understand me correctly when I clearly say that I never said what you claim I said, and nowhere in my words can you infer that I said that.
Did you get some special episode 4 that we all didn't get? The hoard scene, Kenny blowing up at you, the tent, Mike and Bonnie's adventures at Parker's Run, talking to Rebecca at least 3 times throughout the episode, Kenny and Luke's argument, Luke talking to Clem by the observation deck, The entire end scene, and the scene after Ken vs Luke at the observation deck talking about what to do next for the baby.
Determinant characters are all treated like this in previous episodes as well, yet you give episode 4 shit for it.
If this is a waste of your time, then why are you even still here? I asked you simply for an answer for the question I made about your baseless accusation yet you give me a fucking novel on all my points and you say I'm wasting your time?
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This episode was bad and you should feel bad for defending it.
Also as you can examine this is the perfect example of being blinded by Nick's and Sarah's death.
Maybe one day you can win a argument with me, but today is not that day.
But you did. Why couldn't you understand the point of the thread was to hear the words. I don't know how else to say it as simple as i did. Its fine, don't worry about it. Its just a internet post. Don't go beating yourself up about it.
My comment still related to the topic of love. You said
I was just confused as to where you got the idea she felt unloved. Just because nobody said it doesn't mean she is unloved, I don't know how that isn't part of the point. It's still based around the words, but I'm trying to say the words don't matter. The characters actions showed their love.
He clearly disrespected me first and you're a fool if you think otherwise, also I'd win an argument with you any day with the amount of bullshit you spew in each of your arguments.
1."Character's death don't determine if the episode is good or not!!!!" "Character's mean everything and are a huge factor in the game!!!" They don't go together, it's funny how you say I don't have the intelligence to understand it but I make it clear how you're wrong and how your choice of words were poor. Do you even listen to yourself?
2.Holy shit, I am STATING how the episode revolved around Jane mostly. And even after reading all of that, Jane STILL tops it. You're just proving my point even further.
3.Of course they are, but this is the worst out of both of season 1 and 2. it doubles it. So still your point is incorrect.
I give you a novel while you give me nothing. But I can't blame you, you have nothing to give since I'm right regardless lol. It's like you're recycling your replies and throwing it at me. Are you running out of things to say? Because it seems just about it.
I'm recycling replies? You clearly can't find anything else to say except for the same shit you've been saying for the past 20 minutes when on countless times I've proven you wrong either way I'm done here for today, you clearly can't handle anyone's opinion but your own and that shows in your posts too. What a shame.
Yeah, like i've said. You literally have nothing to say since that explains why you resorted to that reply lol.
I recycle my replies yet i've written a "Novel" and i've been proving you wrong, and you've even replied to them. And I can take opinions on, I just debunk your assumptions and opinions. Sorry if you were thinking something else. I really am, but that's beyond my control. And if I couldn't handle anybody else opinion, why would I even be replying to you in the first place? shows that I CAN and that I actually thought of something when dealing with your "opinion". Rather what you said literally applies to you since you're "done". Kek, wuuuuutever.
I'm sorry. I wasn't in the best mood when i typed this post.
The reason i liked this episodes, was that there was finally a character that i could identify with and was interesting. Same reason i liked 4th Episode in first season, we got to meet Molly. The game even gave us chance to do something as cold as leaving Sarah to die, finally letting clem chance to be cold and rational (just the way i like it). This episode alone made me feel like Clem wasnt a little girl anymore, whose decisions didnt sound so stupid, that i would just let the timer run out.
For me, the quality of episodes steadily rose up, after the weak start of "all that remains"
I actually agree with you for once B]
I completely agree with this.
It's ok, we all get to that point from time to time
I'm a shitty person? Ok lol.
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You didn't read it when you posted your first post though. It was posted literally 2 minutes after I posted the thread, no one reads that fast.
I get that Sarah was destined to die the moment the option came to leave her in the trailer or force her to come. In my opinion, her death there makes sense. While it doesn't conclude it the way I would like, it fits her character arc since as Carlos said, she ceased to function and died as a result of Carlos' sheltering.
Her second death isn't like this at all. First of all, why is she standing out on the deck like that? She isn't even armed (which makes teaching her to shoot in 202 pointless, but that's another story) and no one thought to tell her to go back with Kenny and Rebecca? Anyway, the deck collapses, she falls and gets stuck and is devoured by walkers (regardless or whether Jane tries to save her). To me, that death almost seems like bad luck. Her condition had improved since the trailer and it seemed like with some time, she'd be okay or at least come to terms with Carlos' death. I wasn't expecting her to become a badass survivor, just a somewhat competent one.
Sorry. For me, Amid the Ruins still personifies a lot of what was wrong with season 2. Wasted potential, abrupt character deaths that were handled with complete apathy, and a derailment of the themes that earlier episodes (as well as the entire first season) tried to represent.
The way they axed off characters like Nick and Sarah wasn't just unsatisfying, it felt lazy. Like Telltale had set up too many subplots, and they needed to drop everything to a status quo in order to keep the episodes shorter. This story is only as good as its characters, and when they're cheaply forgotten about it undermines having investment in the first place.
Aliens probably do.
Maybe
Picking up "we could teach Sarah how to shoot in 202" topic - which people often use to resume the talking about bad character development - I think you guys missing a point. Backtracking a bit, Clementine could only repeat Lee's advice from Long Road Ahead. There isn't any way close to the proper learning, so there's no need to call this "poinless" or "disappointing".
It's a plot element that established Sarah's willingness to learn from Clementine and the possible directions that her development would take. But none of what Clem tells her is referenced again, and her character arc is suddenly dropped from the story despite the prior focus it was building up to in previous episodes.
Why is it odd that there are people who are disappointed about it?
I didn't say it was 'odd', just there was no real reason to criticize how Sarah's character was developed. She was written as a sheltered girl representing S1 Clementine (at least I see it that way) and died like Clementine might've died if Lee wouldn't have taught her how to survive.
A 'reason' was that her character arc felt incomplete and her death was forced. There were several choices already focused around Sarah's development and the impact that her father's absence would have, but it doesn't lead to anything except a senseless death scene that the group forgets about within a few minutes.
The only character that the situation wanted to develop was Jane, who forces you into this Crawford-styled mindset of the futility of helping those who are struggling.
Sarah's death is a different story. I wanted to point out gun scene.
I agree! Even though Sarah getting killed off regardless disappointed me, it did not suddenly make me say "I hate 'Amid The Ruins!' And Blah Blah Blah."
Old thread but what the hell. I'll start off by saying that this was the weakest and worst episode of the video game series. I know TWD choices don't have enough significance but this episode made a canon choice with the whole Arvo mess. I felt no control over the plot or other characters. How difficult is it for Arvo to say they took his gun or bag. Petty writing this episode was a mistake. Nick's death was terrible and Sarah was handled worse, either of her deaths felt forced and very anti climatic. I felt the Luke situation was pretty shaky, building him up to be a smart, resourceful leader in the first two episodes only to turn out like Ben. Jane hogged so much screen time, you can tell she was just a poor last second replacement for Luke.
Was that on purpose or by accident (one of the writers was J.T. Petty)
Lol no I meant him writing the episode was a mistake. Kind of ironic how Petty's writing was petty.
Sorry I read it wrong, I see what you mean now. I agree, I don't know why Telltale had him write an episode. I know they had Gary Whitta write an episode last season, but he was involved in the project beforehand, Petty wasn't. It was really a stupid decision.
The only thing "In Ruins" was the writing
I don't hate the episode because of Nick and Sarah's deaths. I hate it because it was a poorly written episode and everything about it sucked.
Kenny acting like his Season 1 self was a good thing? It defies all logic of character development by going backwards. In Amid The Ruins it was pathetic because he blames you for Sarita getting bit. It was forced anger and conflict
I...I liked it. (Plz don't hurt me...) But Nick's death still makes me throw my mouse every playthrough.