I loved that scene, but I got to say my favorite scene is when Beth is quarantined in a room with Baby Judith and is telling Maggie, "we all got jobs to do, we don't get to be upset." That's when I saw she's not just a kind soul, she's also very wise and levelheaded. Like her father.:')
And from the comments you've made, I can tell the two of you share that in common.
And that's the truth!
And about Beth an Daryl, my favorite scene was when she was playing that piano in that funeral home.
If you get easily offended DO NOT READ THIS I REPEAT DO NOT READ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I know this is going to sound bad but whatever.. Telltale please don't do this... I don't want to see a faggot in The Walking Dead Game.
The problem is the acceptable term, or politically correct term, to call them is always changing. First it was Negroes, then it was Colored, then it was Black, and now it's African American. But some people are even offended by being called African American. You can never satisfy everyone, and someone is always going to be offended no matter how polite you are. We can't control who gets offended, nor do I think we should be policing thoughts/opinions.
I agree that political correctness can get out of hand on occasions, but at the same time, I really don't see the harm in addressing people … moreby the way they want to be addressed. Sure the term African American can seem out of place, (since a White person could immigrate to the US from Africa and thus be considered an African American) but that doesn't mean that some Black people don't want to be addressed as such. I mean, I don't call Asian people oriental or yellow regardless of where they're from, or if other ethnicities are born there, because some Asians consider those terms to be disrespectful and in the end, I just want to be polite regardless if it's politically correct or not.
Because I can, don't like it? Go close your eyes or something or log off. Or maybe just hide my comments? And yes, I defended Tumblr users, but only ones who are not feminazi tumblot social justice warriors who get offended over everything. Also none of those ponies or major fans of dr who or other shows that make me cringe. So basically the 5%. So no, already majority of what you said is invalid.
And of course I only do so because of that. Who the hell plays a game they find boring and with boring ass characters? If it were just Clementine,Jane and Luke I'd quit. If Nick,Rebecca, and Sarah were not in 201, I wouldn't bother with 202. And of course. Characters who are different race than mine and who are unique in their own way (whether majority find it bad or good) would make me like the character more and it would make the story interesting on how it'd play off. As in how'd they survive and live in a Z.A. If telltale wants to make a good story, those factors are necessary also writing them a good death as well.
And from what I'm reading hun, It pretty much sounds like it. It's not my fault, it's yours. So no, not really.
And I think we should. That's telltale's job anyways. They need to listen to our ideas or else they'd have a shitty game that nobody asked for. But in the end, they take nothing of what we say into consideration.
why do you keep calling me hunty? It's kinda funny, you don't seem to remember that you once defended Tumbr and it's users on a different th… moreread against me. Selective memory, or are you just being contradicting and hypocritical? So you only play a game, or like a character, if they are a different race and/or have emotional issues? And that all other characters are supposedly boring and bland if they don't possess these certain traits. You are only proving my point here.
I didn't say anything about only wanting characters that are white, mentally stable, or basic. Nor did I say that I don't enjoy the characters that are non white/unstable/gay. You are putting words in my mouth. All I'm saying is that I don't think there is a minimum requirement to how many poc/gay/unstable characters a game has to have, or else it's boring and problematic. I don't think we should get a say in it either, because we aren't the ones working/creating the game. Honestly, just calm down.
Aw, thanks!
I loved that scene, but I got to say my favorite scene is when Beth is quarantined in a room with Baby Judith and is telling … moreMaggie, "we all got jobs to do, we don't get to be upset." That's when I saw she's not just a kind soul, she's also very wise and levelheaded. Like her father.:')
Calling me names isn't making you look any less "offended or butthurt" lol. Whatever you say, there isn't much point in arguing with you since you refuse to see reason.
Well, that's your opinion. You don't have to play if you don't want to, but TTG isn't obligated to cater the game to your preferences in what makes a good character.
You can really tell someone is pissed off when they start calling you pet names in an attempt to patronize and belittle the person they're arguing with.
And I think we should. That's telltale's job anyways. They need to listen to our ideas or else they'd have a shitty game that nobody asked for.
Because I can, don't like it? Go close your eyes or something or log off. Or maybe just hide my comments? And yes, I defended Tumblr users, … morebut only ones who are not feminazi tumblot social justice warriors who get offended over everything. Also none of those ponies or major fans of dr who or other shows that make me cringe. So basically the 5%. So no, already majority of what you said is invalid.
And of course I only do so because of that. Who the hell plays a game they find boring and with boring ass characters? If it were just Clementine,Jane and Luke I'd quit. If Nick,Rebecca, and Sarah were not in 201, I wouldn't bother with 202. And of course. Characters who are different race than mine and who are unique in their own way (whether majority find it bad or good) would make me like the character more and it would make the story interesting on how it'd play off. As in how'd they survive and live in a Z.A. If telltale wants to make a good… [view original content]
So when did I call you a name? Did you really think I was talking about you when i said "feminazi tumblot"? If you're not one, then don't worry about it. That was extremely irrelevant and bad assumption in your part. I didn't say "Oh em gee you're a ____". I was stating who i didn't defend. Are you offended from that too?
It's called advice and ideas hunny. They could do what they please, I really do not care at this point since they butchered the series, the damage is done. If I see interesting characters in 301 then I might consider getting it.
You can tell somebody is pissed off when they assume too much, just a little too much. If you think I call you pet names to "patronize" or "belittle" you, then sure, whatever that's you. But hun, that's not the case with me.
Calling me names isn't making you look any less "offended or butthurt" lol. Whatever you say, there isn't much point in arguing with you sin… morece you refuse to see reason.
Well, that's your opinion. You don't have to play if you don't want to, but TTG isn't obligated to cater the game to your preferences in what makes a good character.
You can really tell someone is pissed off when they start calling you pet names in an attempt to patronize and belittle the person they're arguing with.
And I think we should. That's telltale's job anyways. They need to listen to our ideas or else they'd have a shitty game that nobody asked for.
Again, thank you for proving my point.
If you get easily offended DO NOT READ THIS I REPEAT DO NOT READ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I know this is going to sound bad but whatever.. Telltale please don't do this... I don't want to see a faggot in The Walking Dead Game.
The only difference was, you didn't see them getting affectionate.
I hate to see two guys kiss and whatnot.
Thank god telltale didn't show them doing that.
You keep calling me Hunty. I don't know what that means, but it's still a weird thing to call someone. Especially if you're apparently not upset, or angry at said person like you claim.
You seem pretty pissed off to me. There is no need to get offended by a different opinion, you're going to come across a lot of those in life. I know you are. everybody does that when they're upset that something isn't going their way, or in this case, someone isn't agreeing with them. They resort to pet names, it's extremely common, and frankly, very unoriginal. If it soothes your mind, keep calling me names. I can pretend to be offended if it will make you feel better.
So when did I call you a name? Did you really think I was talking about you when i said "feminazi tumblot"? If you're not one, then don't wo… morerry about it. That was extremely irrelevant and bad assumption in your part. I didn't say "Oh em gee you're a ____". I was stating who i didn't defend. Are you offended from that too?
It's called advice and ideas hunny. They could do what they please, I really do not care at this point since they butchered the series, the damage is done. If I see interesting characters in 301 then I might consider getting it.
You can tell somebody is pissed off when they assume too much, just a little too much. If you think I call you pet names to "patronize" or "belittle" you, then sure, whatever that's you. But hun, that's not the case with me.
Wow more irrelevant stuff, what's new lol.
Yet again you are assuming, I claimed I'm not. Why are you dragging this on further? lol.
Hunny, you're onto how I appear "Angry" or not "calm" what happened to the main point? Stop trying to root this out into something different. I could go on about you but I don't want to. Stop bringing irrelevant stuff into this or just stop replying to me, period.
I told you I'm not angry, i'm fine. Are you my therapist or something? And even if I was angry, why does that matter and how is it relevant to this? Stop baiting and again, rooting this out. That isn't necessary and you're being irrelevant.
You keep calling me Hunty. I don't know what that means, but it's still a weird thing to call someone. Especially if you're apparently not u… morepset, or angry at said person like you claim.
You seem pretty pissed off to me. There is no need to get offended by a different opinion, you're going to come across a lot of those in life. I know you are. everybody does that when they're upset that something isn't going their way, or in this case, someone isn't agreeing with them. They resort to pet names, it's extremely common, and frankly, very unoriginal. If it soothes your mind, keep calling me names. I can pretend to be offended if it will make you feel better.
A walker might be able to sneak up on them since they can't hear, and listening to others would be really difficult but I think a deaf person would have just as good as a chance as anyone else.
Being a hard-of-hearing individual myself, I was wondering how a deaf character would be portrayed in the Walking Dead universe myself.
B… moreut I'll be shaking my head if the character ends up killed off because of their disability, being seen as a liability because of their disability, or if they were identified as the 'deaf guy/girl' and nothing else.
And as for deaf/hearing-impaired VA, the actress who appeared in CSI and Heroes (Deanne Bray) would be a good candidate.
Yeah. I agree with you, that people will always find ways to be pissed off or offended by something, but what can you do. The people who get offended by all those terms they addressed Black people by are probably people who love being offended and angry. I wasn't talking about policing people's thoughts, I was just talking about respecting and addressing people the way they want to be addressed. The reason I brought Asians up was because I knew some Asians that got offended by those terms, hell they even got offended if you addressed them by the wrong nationality; Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Vietnamese, etc.
I can see why being called a queer would offend some homosexuals because the word means weird, odd, or strange, which could imply that the person isn't "normal", or that something is wrong with the persona which could lead to the them having low self-esteem because of their sexual orientation and their being.
True, I can't always control who gets offended, but I can control how I react and respond to the situation. And honestly, I've never met a Black Amercian person who's been offended by being called Black unless they were directly from Africa and immigrated here, and that's only because they simply wanted to be addressed by their country of origin rather than a color.
The problem is the acceptable term, or politically correct term, to call them is always changing. First it was Negroes, then it was Colored,… more then it was Black, and now it's African American. But some people are even offended by being called African American. You can never satisfy everyone, and someone is always going to be offended no matter how polite you are. We can't control who gets offended, nor do I think we should be policing thoughts/opinions.
Because you keep replying, and it's very obvious that you are. This is entertaining now.
This debate became irrelevant the minute you began to twist my words, misinterpret my point, and resort to name calling and petty insults. I've been in enough debates to know that this is no longer a civil discussion, it wasn't in the first place from your second reply to me. You've brought it on yourself, if you didn't want a passive aggressive argument, you shouldn't have started one.:/
Do you want me to be your therapist? We will have to discuss payment options if you are considering my services.
Yet again you are assuming, I claimed I'm not. Why are you dragging this on further? lol.
Hunny, you're onto how I appear "Angry" or not … more"calm" what happened to the main point? Stop trying to root this out into something different. I could go on about you but I don't want to. Stop bringing irrelevant stuff into this or just stop replying to me, period.
I told you I'm not angry, i'm fine. Are you my therapist or something? And even if I was angry, why does that matter and how is it relevant to this? Stop baiting and again, rooting this out. That isn't necessary and you're being irrelevant.
Because you keep replying, and it's very obvious that you are. This is entertaining now.
This debate became irrelevant the minute you beg… morean to twist my words, misinterpret my point, and resort to name calling and petty insults. I've been in enough debates to know that this is no longer a civil discussion, it wasn't in the first place from your second reply to me. You've brought it on yourself, if you didn't want a passive aggressive argument, you shouldn't have started one.:/
Do you want me to be your therapist? We will have to discuss payment options if you are considering my services.
I see what you mean. I can understand why someone would be offended if they were called the wrong nationality/race, but at the same time they're living in America. Most people aren't going to know "what you are" unless you tell them. And majority of the time if they get your nationality/race wrong, they aren't doing it on purpose or out of malice.
But the thing is that some people don't mind being called queer, and even call themselves queer at times. It's so gray, that it isn't necessarily fair to expect people to know what the specific acceptable term is for an individual person. I can also turn it around though and say it isn't fair that they've claimed the word "gay". Gay once meant to be happy or carefree, but now it means homosexual. My Grandparents for one have said they are offended that LGBT has "hijacked" this word if you will. But meanings of words are always changing, and they only hold as much power as we give them. I don't think it's alright to call people derogatory terms, but words that are ambiguous and are fluid in their meaning are hard to condemn.
I don't want to offend somebody on purpose, but I'm also not going to silence my opinion if they don't agree with it, or are offended by it. Unless it is a direct insult to a person, I don't see why I should apologize for offending someone.
Yeah. I agree with you, that people will always find ways to be pissed off or offended by something, but what can you do. The people who get… more offended by all those terms they addressed Black people by are probably people who love being offended and angry. I wasn't talking about policing people's thoughts, I was just talking about respecting and addressing people the way they want to be addressed. The reason I brought Asians up was because I knew some Asians that got offended by those terms, hell they even got offended if you addressed them by the wrong nationality; Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Vietnamese, etc.
I can see why being called a queer would offend some homosexuals because the word means weird, odd, or strange, which could imply that the person isn't "normal", or that something is wrong with the persona which could lead to the them having low self-esteem because of their sexual orientation and their being.
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Indeed you are. Just as every racist, sexist, bigot, and Neo-nazi is entitled to their hateful feelings. But what you and Kenny- up there aren't entitled to is expressing said feelings on a message board that explicitly forbids hate speech.
Racial prejudice and Gay prejudice can't be compared. It's an indisputable fact that race can't be controlled, it's an opinion that sexual preference can't be controlled. I know I'll get hate, but you can't call something fact just because you believe it, or desire it to be fact.
There are so many double standards being expressed.
Racism and homophobia are horrible for the exact same reasons: treating someone diffe… morerently because of something they cannot control.
Imagine if some of the comments were instead about race.
'I don't really think it's necessary to have black people in a video game'
'No. What you want is an interracial storyline'
There shouldn't be black people because 'There are more important things to worry about in the apocalypse'.
These arguments just...don't make sense. And they're for the large part bigoted to varying extents.
People aren't asking for a game based around coming out of the closet and being made homeless due to it, or a game about fucking as many dudes as possible with one's abnormally large phallus, people are saying that they would like to see a gay character.
Having gay characters should not be discouraged specifically for the EXACT same reasons having black characters shouldn't be discouraged.
I'm flagging your post, you're breaking rule #1 of the forum. Hate speech isn't allowed or tolerated I hope you edit out your comment before a moderator does it for you.
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If you get easily offended DO NOT READ THIS I REPEAT DO NOT READ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I know this is going to sound bad but whatever.. Telltale please don't do this... I don't want to see a faggot in The Walking Dead Game.
Yup, that's hate speech, and we won't have it here.
Substitute "queers" with, say, "blacks" and it's pretty much the same sentiment.
If it offends other people that much, I'd gladly delete the post. For now, I'd rather have a lot of other people step in and peacefully address that this sentiment could not be less shared among the community.
Having The Walking Dead cast reflect our society is what should happen, and it probably will happen.
If you get easily offended DO NOT READ THIS I REPEAT DO NOT READ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I know this is going to sound bad but whatever.. Telltale please don't do this... I don't want to see a faggot in The Walking Dead Game.
The only difference was, you didn't see them getting affectionate.
I hate to see two guys kiss and whatnot.
Thank god telltale didn't show them doing that.
I know some people don't mind being called queer, that's why I said "some homosexuals", that doesn't mean someone else isn't offended by it. Some White people don't mind being called a redneck, whereas others do, some Japanese Americans don't mind being called jap, others do. I don't care when people call me the N word in any form, whether with an "a" or "er", but in my case, I'm just freaking weird and laugh when people insult me and I'm kinda indifferent when people compliment me, haha.
True, the meaning of words are always changing, I agree wholeheartedly with that. But the definition of "gay" hasn't changed itself completely though. It still means "happy" and "carefree", it just now has another definition attached to it now. So I wouldn't say they hijacked or stole the word, just added to it.
I don't want you to silence your opinion if they don't agree with it and you shouldn't have too apologize to anyone for that. You're free to agree and believe in whatever you want, and I respect you greatly for that.
For me, at least, the safest way to not offend somebody is simply learning and addressing the person by their name. And I understand not wanting to offend or insult somebody, but my whole point is just addressing somebody with what they want to be called out of respect, especially if you actually know the person and are close to them. If a biracial person wants to be called Black so be it, if they want to be called mixed, biracial, more power to them. I'm not gonna argue with them and tell them what they should or should not be called. If those people are the type of people who get offended no matter what, then ignore them, since they are the ones who have a stick up their ass.
I see what you mean. I can understand why someone would be offended if they were called the wrong nationality/race, but at the same time the… morey're living in America. Most people aren't going to know "what you are" unless you tell them. And majority of the time if they get your nationality/race wrong, they aren't doing it on purpose or out of malice.
But the thing is that some people don't mind being called queer, and even call themselves queer at times. It's so gray, that it isn't necessarily fair to expect people to know what the specific acceptable term is for an individual person. I can also turn it around though and say it isn't fair that they've claimed the word "gay". Gay once meant to be happy or carefree, but now it means homosexual. My Grandparents for one have said they are offended that LGBT has "hijacked" this word if you will. But meanings of words are always changing, and they only hold as much power as we give them. I don't th… [view original content]
If you get easily offended DO NOT READ THIS I REPEAT DO NOT READ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I know this is going to sound bad but whatever.. Telltale please don't do this... I don't want to see a faggot in The Walking Dead Game.
Good point, but it still makes it quite difficult to determine what is considered offensive and what isn't, because of people's different definitions of what is offensive to them.
I think it's pretty universal that most people think of homosexuality when they hear the word "gay", and not the actual definition. Hence why children will usually giggle when they read that word, my niece could not stop snickering when she came across the word in the Bambi novel. Even though it was describing happiness, and most certainly not a gay deer.XD
Thank you, I must say that I enjoy that our conversations where we disagree are never hostile.
Exactly, I completely agree with your last paragraph.
I know some people don't mind being called queer, that's why I said "some homosexuals", that doesn't mean someone else isn't offended by it.… more Some White people don't mind being called a redneck, whereas others do, some Japanese Americans don't mind being called jap, others do. I don't care when people call me the N word in any form, whether with an "a" or "er", but in my case, I'm just freaking weird and laugh when people insult me and I'm kinda indifferent when people compliment me, haha.
True, the meaning of words are always changing, I agree wholeheartedly with that. But the definition of "gay" hasn't changed itself completely though. It still means "happy" and "carefree", it just now has another definition attached to it now. So I wouldn't say they hijacked or stole the word, just added to it.
I don't want you to silence your opinion if they don't agree with it and you shouldn't have too apologize to anyone for that. You're free to … [view original content]
Eh, I don't know about that. Not being able to hear zombies, gunshots, people telling you to put your hands up or they'll blow your head off seems like it'd be a pretty major issue when it comes to apocalypse survival. Maybe if they were with a group, but even then, they'd be pretty dependent on having someone there who knows sign language and stuff. Honestly, they probably wouldn't last long.
A walker might be able to sneak up on them since they can't hear, and listening to others would be really difficult but I think a deaf person would have just as good as a chance as anyone else.
What's it matter if they're gay, straight, lesbian, transsexual, asexual, (and the newly discovered sexual preference, piesexual )? For all we know a lot of the characters we've met in the games were or have been or are one of the above. In a game like the Walking Dead, none of that even matters IMO, and making a game exclusively about a gay couple would turn some people off, just like making a character a seething atheist would turn others off. Everyone has preferences and likes and dislikes, and with Walter and Matthew TT did a fantastic job IMO because it they were presented very well as to not offend anyone, and to also show a considerate amount of kindness in these two characters. They were represented well, and if you're worried about trying trying to make the LGBT community look good, TT did a good job of that IMO.
Chuck says it best.
"You gotta consider her(everyone) a living person, that's it! You're either living or you're not. You ain't little, you ain't a girl, you ain't a boy, you ain't strong or smart, you're alive."
IMO in the WD universe, it's not about those sorts of issues anymore.
What's it matter if they're gay, straight, lesbian, transsexual, asexual, (and the newly discovered sexual preference, piesexual )? For all… more we know a lot of the characters we've met in the games were or have been or are one of the above. In a game like the Walking Dead, none of that even matters IMO, and making a game exclusively about a gay couple would turn some people off, just like making a character a seething atheist would turn others off. Everyone has preferences and likes and dislikes, and with Walter and Matthew TT did a fantastic job IMO because it they were presented very well as to not offend anyone, and to also show a considerate amount of kindness in these two characters. They were represented well, and if you're worried about trying trying to make the LGBT community look good, TT did a good job of that IMO.
Chuck says it best.
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Aw, thanks!
I loved that scene, but I got to say my favorite scene is when Beth is quarantined in a room with Baby Judith and is telling Maggie, "we all got jobs to do, we don't get to be upset." That's when I saw she's not just a kind soul, she's also very wise and levelheaded. Like her father.:')
Hate to break it to you bud, but you've already seen a faggot in the game. In fact, you've seen two. Walter and Matt were gay lovers.
No hes a transgender.
The problem is the acceptable term, or politically correct term, to call them is always changing. First it was Negroes, then it was Colored, then it was Black, and now it's African American. But some people are even offended by being called African American. You can never satisfy everyone, and someone is always going to be offended no matter how polite you are. We can't control who gets offended, nor do I think we should be policing thoughts/opinions.
Because I can, don't like it? Go close your eyes or something or log off. Or maybe just hide my comments? And yes, I defended Tumblr users, but only ones who are not feminazi tumblot social justice warriors who get offended over everything. Also none of those ponies or major fans of dr who or other shows that make me cringe. So basically the 5%. So no, already majority of what you said is invalid.
And of course I only do so because of that. Who the hell plays a game they find boring and with boring ass characters? If it were just Clementine,Jane and Luke I'd quit. If Nick,Rebecca, and Sarah were not in 201, I wouldn't bother with 202. And of course. Characters who are different race than mine and who are unique in their own way (whether majority find it bad or good) would make me like the character more and it would make the story interesting on how it'd play off. As in how'd they survive and live in a Z.A. If telltale wants to make a good story, those factors are necessary also writing them a good death as well.
And from what I'm reading hun, It pretty much sounds like it. It's not my fault, it's yours. So no, not really.
And I think we should. That's telltale's job anyways. They need to listen to our ideas or else they'd have a shitty game that nobody asked for. But in the end, they take nothing of what we say into consideration.
So "Honestly, just calm down".
Between Beth and Maggie, I'd say Beth is more like her dad than Maggie.
Maggie has more of a pragmatic person, as opposed to Beth.
Calling me names isn't making you look any less "offended or butthurt" lol. Whatever you say, there isn't much point in arguing with you since you refuse to see reason.
Well, that's your opinion. You don't have to play if you don't want to, but TTG isn't obligated to cater the game to your preferences in what makes a good character.
You can really tell someone is pissed off when they start calling you pet names in an attempt to patronize and belittle the person they're arguing with.
Again, thank you for proving my point.
I can see Beth being the new moral compass..but then again if she does become the voice of reason, she's most likely going to die.D:
So when did I call you a name? Did you really think I was talking about you when i said "feminazi tumblot"? If you're not one, then don't worry about it. That was extremely irrelevant and bad assumption in your part. I didn't say "Oh em gee you're a ____". I was stating who i didn't defend. Are you offended from that too?
It's called advice and ideas hunny. They could do what they please, I really do not care at this point since they butchered the series, the damage is done. If I see interesting characters in 301 then I might consider getting it.
You can tell somebody is pissed off when they assume too much, just a little too much. If you think I call you pet names to "patronize" or "belittle" you, then sure, whatever that's you. But hun, that's not the case with me.
Wow more irrelevant stuff, what's new lol.
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The only difference was, you didn't see them getting affectionate.
I hate to see two guys kiss and whatnot.
Thank god telltale didn't show them doing that.
You keep calling me Hunty. I don't know what that means, but it's still a weird thing to call someone. Especially if you're apparently not upset, or angry at said person like you claim.
You seem pretty pissed off to me. There is no need to get offended by a different opinion, you're going to come across a lot of those in life. I know you are. everybody does that when they're upset that something isn't going their way, or in this case, someone isn't agreeing with them. They resort to pet names, it's extremely common, and frankly, very unoriginal. If it soothes your mind, keep calling me names. I can pretend to be offended if it will make you feel better.
knock on wood, knock on wood!
Don't jinx it. Lol!
Yet again you are assuming, I claimed I'm not. Why are you dragging this on further? lol.
Hunny, you're onto how I appear "Angry" or not "calm" what happened to the main point? Stop trying to root this out into something different. I could go on about you but I don't want to. Stop bringing irrelevant stuff into this or just stop replying to me, period.
I told you I'm not angry, i'm fine. Are you my therapist or something? And even if I was angry, why does that matter and how is it relevant to this? Stop baiting and again, rooting this out. That isn't necessary and you're being irrelevant.
A walker might be able to sneak up on them since they can't hear, and listening to others would be really difficult but I think a deaf person would have just as good as a chance as anyone else.
Yeah. I agree with you, that people will always find ways to be pissed off or offended by something, but what can you do. The people who get offended by all those terms they addressed Black people by are probably people who love being offended and angry. I wasn't talking about policing people's thoughts, I was just talking about respecting and addressing people the way they want to be addressed. The reason I brought Asians up was because I knew some Asians that got offended by those terms, hell they even got offended if you addressed them by the wrong nationality; Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Vietnamese, etc.
I can see why being called a queer would offend some homosexuals because the word means weird, odd, or strange, which could imply that the person isn't "normal", or that something is wrong with the persona which could lead to the them having low self-esteem because of their sexual orientation and their being.
True, I can't always control who gets offended, but I can control how I react and respond to the situation. And honestly, I've never met a Black Amercian person who's been offended by being called Black unless they were directly from Africa and immigrated here, and that's only because they simply wanted to be addressed by their country of origin rather than a color.
Because you keep replying, and it's very obvious that you are. This is entertaining now.
This debate became irrelevant the minute you began to twist my words, misinterpret my point, and resort to name calling and petty insults. I've been in enough debates to know that this is no longer a civil discussion, it wasn't in the first place from your second reply to me. You've brought it on yourself, if you didn't want a passive aggressive argument, you shouldn't have started one.:/
Do you want me to be your therapist? We will have to discuss payment options if you are considering my services.
Lol I wouldn't pay you for anything. My dog can most likely do a better job at being a therapist than you hun.
I see what you mean. I can understand why someone would be offended if they were called the wrong nationality/race, but at the same time they're living in America. Most people aren't going to know "what you are" unless you tell them. And majority of the time if they get your nationality/race wrong, they aren't doing it on purpose or out of malice.
But the thing is that some people don't mind being called queer, and even call themselves queer at times. It's so gray, that it isn't necessarily fair to expect people to know what the specific acceptable term is for an individual person. I can also turn it around though and say it isn't fair that they've claimed the word "gay". Gay once meant to be happy or carefree, but now it means homosexual. My Grandparents for one have said they are offended that LGBT has "hijacked" this word if you will. But meanings of words are always changing, and they only hold as much power as we give them. I don't think it's alright to call people derogatory terms, but words that are ambiguous and are fluid in their meaning are hard to condemn.
I don't want to offend somebody on purpose, but I'm also not going to silence my opinion if they don't agree with it, or are offended by it. Unless it is a direct insult to a person, I don't see why I should apologize for offending someone.
You just took the bait lol. What's the point of the gif, if you're going to take the bait anyway?
Indeed you are. Just as every racist, sexist, bigot, and Neo-nazi is entitled to their hateful feelings. But what you and Kenny- up there aren't entitled to is expressing said feelings on a message board that explicitly forbids hate speech.
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Racial prejudice and Gay prejudice can't be compared. It's an indisputable fact that race can't be controlled, it's an opinion that sexual preference can't be controlled. I know I'll get hate, but you can't call something fact just because you believe it, or desire it to be fact.
You're doing it again. I thought you were done with this discussion?
I'm flagging your post, you're breaking rule #1 of the forum. Hate speech isn't allowed or tolerated I hope you edit out your comment before a moderator does it for you.
Yup, that's hate speech, and we won't have it here.
Substitute "queers" with, say, "blacks" and it's pretty much the same sentiment.
If it offends other people that much, I'd gladly delete the post. For now, I'd rather have a lot of other people step in and peacefully address that this sentiment could not be less shared among the community.
Having The Walking Dead cast reflect our society is what should happen, and it probably will happen.
Calm Down Girls and Breathe Life is so much better than people believe.
Even if you disagree with that lifestyle, using derogatory terms is not only unnecessary but against forum guidelines.
Please try to be more respectful of how you address people with different opinions - even if you disagree with them.
Oh I know. I'm more amused, than mad. lol
Just testing here for purely scientific purposes, how do you feel about lesbians?
I know some people don't mind being called queer, that's why I said "some homosexuals", that doesn't mean someone else isn't offended by it. Some White people don't mind being called a redneck, whereas others do, some Japanese Americans don't mind being called jap, others do. I don't care when people call me the N word in any form, whether with an "a" or "er", but in my case, I'm just freaking weird and laugh when people insult me and I'm kinda indifferent when people compliment me, haha.
True, the meaning of words are always changing, I agree wholeheartedly with that. But the definition of "gay" hasn't changed itself completely though. It still means "happy" and "carefree", it just now has another definition attached to it now. So I wouldn't say they hijacked or stole the word, just added to it.
I don't want you to silence your opinion if they don't agree with it and you shouldn't have too apologize to anyone for that. You're free to agree and believe in whatever you want, and I respect you greatly for that.
For me, at least, the safest way to not offend somebody is simply learning and addressing the person by their name. And I understand not wanting to offend or insult somebody, but my whole point is just addressing somebody with what they want to be called out of respect, especially if you actually know the person and are close to them. If a biracial person wants to be called Black so be it, if they want to be called mixed, biracial, more power to them. I'm not gonna argue with them and tell them what they should or should not be called. If those people are the type of people who get offended no matter what, then ignore them, since they are the ones who have a stick up their ass.
Well here I thought I was in the 21st century.
You ought to get used to it, mate.
Good point, but it still makes it quite difficult to determine what is considered offensive and what isn't, because of people's different definitions of what is offensive to them.
I think it's pretty universal that most people think of homosexuality when they hear the word "gay", and not the actual definition. Hence why children will usually giggle when they read that word, my niece could not stop snickering when she came across the word in the Bambi novel. Even though it was describing happiness, and most certainly not a gay deer.XD
Thank you, I must say that I enjoy that our conversations where we disagree are never hostile.
Exactly, I completely agree with your last paragraph.
Eh, I don't know about that. Not being able to hear zombies, gunshots, people telling you to put your hands up or they'll blow your head off seems like it'd be a pretty major issue when it comes to apocalypse survival. Maybe if they were with a group, but even then, they'd be pretty dependent on having someone there who knows sign language and stuff. Honestly, they probably wouldn't last long.
What's it matter if they're gay, straight, lesbian, transsexual, asexual, (and the newly discovered sexual preference, piesexual )? For all we know a lot of the characters we've met in the games were or have been or are one of the above. In a game like the Walking Dead, none of that even matters IMO, and making a game exclusively about a gay couple would turn some people off, just like making a character a seething atheist would turn others off. Everyone has preferences and likes and dislikes, and with Walter and Matthew TT did a fantastic job IMO because it they were presented very well as to not offend anyone, and to also show a considerate amount of kindness in these two characters. They were represented well, and if you're worried about trying trying to make the LGBT community look good, TT did a good job of that IMO.
Chuck says it best.
"You gotta consider her(everyone) a living person, that's it! You're either living or you're not. You ain't little, you ain't a girl, you ain't a boy, you ain't strong or smart, you're alive."
IMO in the WD universe, it's not about those sorts of issues anymore.
Wtf is piesexual? XD
Please dont tell me...relationships with pies?
XD It's a joke between me and a few others in the forums. It's just an intense love for pies. @Isabella8656 can explain it better.
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Wtf